What do you think of the end?
| Well I just read the end of Shin Angyo Onshi and to be honest, I don't really know what to think about it. It's nice that Sando realised that Aji Tae has just been deceiving her and in the end Aji Tae died, but I somehow would have liked to know what happens afterwards to some of the characters. I mean it is pretty clear that Munsu will die shortly after the end of the fight, but I would have really liked to know, what, for example, Sando will do after the fight, since fighting and serving someone seems to be the reason for her existence. I would have also liked to know what happens to the country after Aji Tae is dead, since, also in a rather cruel way, he maintained order and it wouldn't be too surprising if the whole country would fall into chaos. Well, what do you think of the end? |
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| It ended exactly the way I thought it would, the last page I mean, so I really wasted disappointed. Unanswered questions, unfortunately, are a staple in great stories. |
| when Sando |
RickyFromVegasSep 13, 2008 4:54 AM
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| I think the ending is good enough. Some mysteries should be still secrets. |
| Lol, apparently that KORAB scan of the last volume was missing like 15 pages or something. |
| @Kuroe_Kurose - Are you serious?! Because that pisses me off that a group can just release something unfinished (-_-)! |
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| i self-scanlated the last remaining pages from Korean RAW, because of that reason. if you want, i'll post it here. of course, it's only a temporary fix. I ain't no pro XD don't say i never warned you. ==== Self-Scanlated pagesthat KORAB scans didn't include. (read from Right to Left) 1-2 3-4 5-6 7-8 9-10 (final pages) |
RickyFromVegasJun 14, 2008 2:16 PM
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| Thanks for that caboose_ftw, at least I got some closure but it's still pretty sad that it had to end. Would love to see that epic battle animated someday. ^_^ |
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| IDK about that...i mean, the Shin Angyo Onshi movie sucked...IMO It's too bad, because second half of the manga is at least 9 times better than the first half... |
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| That's certainly true, because the 1st half of the manga lacked a storyline and it only gained a storyline during the Hwalbidang arc (don't know if that's spelt right). |
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| I'm Korean, and i can't even spell anything korean. It was Munsu's past as the invincible General in the country of Jushin, captivated me until the end. Sando spin-off series PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Nice, at least these 10 last pages give me a feeling of closure :> |
| "Truth is always a delusion." - Friedrich Dürrenmatt |
| I'm glad to have helped! |
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| Just finished reading [the ETC scanlations]. Really great story. Makes me sad The General died even though it was clear he was going to before the battles. caboose_ftw said: Sando spin-off series PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES PLZ!! lol |
| Damn. Underwhelming ending. I can take unresolved mysteries, but I disliked the sudden simplification of everything, and the too fast development. Aji Tae became less of a mystery and more of a paper cutout villain in the last two arcs. Munsu became flatter. Characters that needed development and focus didn't get any. Still, everything up to the second half of the mandrake dream arc stands as something of the finest I've read in graphical storytelling. Up there with Fullmetal Alchemist and Watchmen, yes indeed. |
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| Yeah.. i felt the last volume or two was rushed, and i thought it deserved at least another 2-3 volumes to really flesh out the characters.. i mean, they all just died within 1 volume, and there wasn't as much emotional weight to their deaths(especially for Aji Tae and his crew, who became your average cliche villians by the end) as i'd hoped(ie more flashbacks for each character as they are dying heh heh). Very disappointing, but i guess one can't have everything, and since everything else was of the highest quality, i'll still give this a 9.5. One of the classics easily |
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| Too many things happened at the same time in the end, suddenly they were there against Aji Tae's undead army, suddenly people dropped dead left and right, and everything was over just like that. Also, in the beginning I really liked Tae as a villain, much because of him reminding me of Bererk's Griffith, but summoning an undead army kind of reverted him back to the standard fare villain. Still, a fitting ending, if a bit rushed. |
| Tnx for showing us the ending ^^,and I suppose it was nice ending even if it was sad ;/ I hope someday theres gonna be anime to this manga T__T I will miss Munso @#!#$! |
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| I was a bit disappointed with the ending. It just kind of stopped... which, after waiting a long tme for the last chapters, was harsh. I was expecting something really grand to take place, but it all just came to a halt. Caboose: Thank you very much for posting those. That definitely added a bit to the ending of the series. |
| Ugh.. serious... worst ending ever. It's just that they just KILLED all of the characters at once, not even like.. one by one.. all the characters die in one chapter/volume.. I aftree with eimajtl.. there is NO storyline in the end, it just STOPS. storyline was also unnecessarily confusing, like most MANHWAS where they just put in everything that looks/sounds cool, never thinking ahead. |
| This manhwa is really something incredible; it is one of the best comic I've ever read; a "10/10" title. But at the same time it's biggest waste I've ever read. It would be 10x better if it was longer etc. Ending just as everyone says was rushed. Many characters didn't get the time that they deserved etc. I especially hate how Aji Tae was reduced to average shounen villain... But here comes the funniest thing; ending is still masterpiece. Greatest, most climatic and most beautiful drawn pages that I saw in manga/manhwa are those that confirm Munsu's life as "deeply rooted" one. They are just breathtaking. That is why I scored SAO 9/10. It reminds me kinda of Code Geass R2 which was shitty, last episodes were odd, but grande finale was epic. |
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| Now I think about it, yeah it was a good ending. It probably could've been better, but not by that much better. To think that in the end, almost all of Mushu's army was reunited. Sweet isn't it? Though, they didn't show all of them (as in the massive armies Mushu have once been in command of, including the army that was almost annihilated by the monsters) in the 'heaven scene', without a doubt, they greeted the return of the Legendary General Mushu. Well, maybe not 'return', I guess it would be more appropriate to say they congratulated Mushu on finally receiving the peace that he so deserves. It was an incredible manga. Surprisingly it was short, and though i didn't always like how it fast forwarded many things, I also think that if it was arranged any other way, it probably wouldn't have as much impact on the readers. |
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| wow...just amazing I liked the end...well done and I don't see any big unanswered questions remaining. |
| I really like this ending too. Though I didnt expect both his arms to be chopped off and Sando being the one to kill him. I always thought it would end in like a two way sacrifice. Where like Munsu kills himself and Aji Tae (I did know like ever since the hwalbindang arc that at the end of this manga no matter what munsu would die though) . But I did find this last chapter pretty epic and the last few pages werent too cheesy either. |
freakman012May 8, 2009 3:23 PM
| Jasonbear, it's my interpretation that the dreams were largely true, but some parts subjected to his mind blocking things out. The earliest memory we saw was probably the most distorted simply because it was the oldest, and he didn't remember clearly. Overall, the ending seemed very classical. I found this disappointing, though I mostly expected it. I know people would be very angry if it had happened, but I was hoping for an entirely ambiguous ending or complete tragedy; the sort of ending that leaves you furious at the writer and thinking back over it again and again. The conclusion of SAO was far too predictable. |
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| I disagree with the person who said that Aji Tae becomes a more 2-dimensional character towards the end. Ever since Munsu comes out of the mandrake dream, Aji Tae seems to be getting more and more agitated for some reason, even though he has the power to crush Munsu under his thumb. He does act out in some more violent and classically villain-like ways, which is purposely out of character for him. The author is trying to show that he's desperate because he can't try to kill Munsu for fear of not being able to. In the last scene Munsu is actually bluffing Aji Tae into believing he can't kill him. I thought that part was genius. Miss Hwang shouldn't have died though : (. |
| I thought the ending was great only things i didnt liked where: -Miss Hwang's death (completly unnecesary) -I would have liked to know more of Aji Tate's Panther girl and Tae Yu's master -Sando's monster form wasn't explained |
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| Sando's monster form is explained in one of the gaidens. You can download them all at etc's website. She's actually from the moon (not even kidding). |
| I'm not sure how I feel about the ending... But, Munsu's death scene was epic. He and Won Sul are easily my favourite characters. |
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TargaryenX said: Sando's monster form is explained in one of the gaidens. You can download them all at etc's website. She's actually from the moon (not even kidding). Sando's form was never explained in the gaiden, you prob got her mixed up with the demon in Won Sul's story. The final battle between Munsu and Aji was awesome and all in all it was an okay ending. BTW, who is this Miiru-San Aji Tae is referring to. For some reason I can't think of who that is. http://www.mangareader.net/906-37491-6/shin-angyo-onshi/chapter-75.html |
Zero_MotivationDec 31, 2010 11:20 PM
Master_of_Fear said: TargaryenX said: Sando's monster form is explained in one of the gaidens. You can download them all at etc's website. She's actually from the moon (not even kidding). Sando's form was never explained in the gaiden, you prob got her mixed up with the demon in Won Sul's story. The final battle between Munsu and Aji was awesome and all in all it was an okay ending. BTW, who is this Miiru-San Aji Tae is referring to. For some reason I can't think of who that is. http://www.mangareader.net/906-37491-6/shin-angyo-onshi/chapter-75.html If you downloaded the manga from the torrent in bakabt you will see a folder with this name"ShinAngyoOnshi_v08_OSA-LOGY[ETC]" the first33 pages are the first story in the gaiden, it's a story about Sando with her dead lover Mong Ryong. Won Sol's story was the second one And Miiru-san is Aji Tea's duck, don't now where is it now though The ending was fine , but i feel sad for Sando :( you can work for me Sando i'll treat you will |
Yasei_Feb 11, 2011 7:54 AM
| Truth is, Everybody is going to hurt you, You just gotta to find the ones worth suffering for. |
| This is the most intense manga i ever read, this is one of those where u have straight through from chapter 1 to the end to get a better understanding and thats wat i did, i had no problem with the ending it was good |
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| This was one hell of a ride reading this non-stop in a few days :| The ending wasn't a happy one and I would think hate it if it was happy, though I kind of would like to see an alternate ending this was definitely the best option to end this story. With the large "Roots" flashback near the end of the story I think most of the questions have been answered. |
I liked and disliked it, so I would say the ending could've been better. I guess I hoped for a less depressing ending. |
itsmeeMay 15, 2012 4:36 AM
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| This was definitely one of the best reads of my life. I thought the ending summed up most things pretty well. Munsu went like a champ. That look on his face when he died was priceless.. Poor sando though.. :( |
| one of the most epic battle i've ever seen in manga. totally depressing, since most of my fav characters died (especially miss Hwang T_T and Yeong Sil). But i'm quite satisfied with the ending, though it seems pretty rushed. the art and the story are very beautiful, and i'm really lucky i collected all the manga volumes. |
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| The early story wasn't going anywhere, the mid story had depth and the end was rushed (I'm talking about the whole manhwa here). Also there is many details that just don't fit, like Ajitea who fear to kill Munsu because he think maybe he is the source of the wish who released him BUT killed Hae Mo Su , who was the real source of the wish, without fearing anything :-/ Also, i'm I the only one to think that the Hong Gildong's group died for absolutely nothing ? There's no meaning in their death, Munsu acted like cold blooded basterd. Moreover, the whole thing could have been avoided if he had gave them this stupid gold, he could have told her the truth about her sister and gained powerfull allies..... Instead of using his remaining life force to fight to death in a meaningless fight. Now about the END, Ajitea spare the life of Banja but not his remaining allies ?(Mago, General Jung Son) WTF ? Rushed, everything was rushed . |
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| My main issue with the story had to do with all the pointless characters and jumbled themes. For example, Bang Ja was barely relevant and seemed to exist solely for the sake of being Munsu's pal. Chun isn't even a footnote - I mean sure she's a dragon or something, but her character was pretty flat. The villain with the hat who flies around - his hat is the most memorable part about him. That blonde woman who studied under Munsu was there to... show that Munsu would be missed? The muscled guy who fought with the revived hero near the end. Both of those characters pretty much cancel each other out. Then there's 'However much it is soiled by the earth, snow is still white.' I assume this had something to do with Chun being a monster/converting to Aji Tae, demons with human forms, dead people not staying dead, Aji Tae messing with Munsu's perception of his identity, and wanting to turn humanity into demons. What was the relevance, though? Did he just do all of that to mess with Munsu's philosophy? He was interesting because he was enigmatic and didn't give off an air of villainy at all, but partway through he turned into a generic psychopath with an NTR fetish. Then there are the unexplained plot elements (or plot holes); why did he give Munsu the mahai? Why did people believe that Munsu was responsible for the king's death? What was the point behind the soldiers who wanted to sate their lust for battle and ended up as assassins? There are a bunch of dangling loose ends which should've never been there, sigh |
| I was pretty disappointed, it could have been way better, so generic and boring. |
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| It was fantastic up until the Hwalbindang story arc.Mandrake Dreams was still good,but after that in went downhill faster than Germany 1945. It was still a good read though,like I said the first half is just fantastic,but the ending left me disappointed. |
| Like the user above, I loved everything before the mandrake dreams arc. Then came an excessively long and tedious flashbac, mostly due to the reader already knowing way too much about the outcome. The biggest flaw of this manga was its very inconsistent villain. As long as he remained a looming shady menace, Aji Tae was fine. But the more layers got added to his character, usually through incomprehensible and vague dialogues, the more convoluted and unfocused he became. How many times did he have the occasion to end Munsu's life without a sweat, yet didn't act on it ? He claims to have no sense of right or wrong, yet reverts to basic shonen tropes whenever it's convenient for the overall plot. These are mostly symptoms of the author failing to keep reign on a completely overpowered villain. A very good first half, a disappointing second half and an underwhelming ending. |
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