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Nov 13, 2010 9:16 PM
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Glad that Natsuno back.

I know that he is said to have died, but his eyes aren't like the other shiki(s) so I'm guessing Natsuno is a special shiki (s) like that blue-haired guy or something like that.

This was a pretty good episode, it kinda got a bit boring somewhere in the middle, but Natsuno appearance made up for it.

Can't wait for the next episode.
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So it looks like either Natsuno didnt die or he came back as something like Tatsumi.

Anyway, a decent episode. The preview for the next episode looked promising.
Nov 14, 2010 3:55 AM

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Trie said:
So it looks like either Natsuno didnt die or he came back as something like Tatsumi.

Anyway, a decent episode. The preview for the next episode looked promising.


Natsuno died ...


Nov 14, 2010 6:29 AM

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AngelRaf said:
Trie said:
So it looks like either Natsuno didnt die or he came back as something like Tatsumi.

Anyway, a decent episode. The preview for the next episode looked promising.


Natsuno died ...


hum , if you read the manga, well,it wasnt not quite like that, remember? i think i remember to read on the manga that


But that was the explanation of Tatsumi on the manga, maybe they will change it on the anime...

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Nov 14, 2010 7:11 AM

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Orulyon said:
AngelRaf said:
Trie said:
So it looks like either Natsuno didnt die or he came back as something like Tatsumi.

Anyway, a decent episode. The preview for the next episode looked promising.


Natsuno died ...


hum , if you read the manga, well,it wasnt not quite like that, remember? i think i remember to read on the manga that


But that was the explanation of Tatsumi on the manga, maybe they will change it on the anime...


I didn't read the manga.I don't want that it spoils the anime x3
But so much people already spoiled so I know almost all.But I didn't know this about werewolves( special shikis )


Nov 14, 2010 10:30 AM

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So our dr van Helsing is getting help from from a vampire... interesting developement indeed (not that I didn't expect it) . Next ep he are ought to see little lady Shiki past... I'm quite curious.

Ok, now I stpo being eloqent ang go for my fangirl spasm: kyaaaa Tooru, you're so cute with all those little diasies *____* that was so unbelievely.... aaah, cute!
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Snowley said:
So our dr van Helsing is getting help from from a vampire... interesting developement indeed (not that I didn't expect it) . Next ep he are ought to see little lady Shiki past... I'm quite curious.

Ok, now I stpo being eloqent ang go for my fangirl spasm: kyaaaa Tooru, you're so cute with all those little diasies *____* that was so unbelievely.... aaah, cute!


I can't wait to see Sunako's past to :)
Incredible duo ~ Toshio and Natsuno ~ they kick ass! xD
I don't think Tohru will help Natsuno against shikis.


*fangirl mode on* Natsuno is so much cuter than Tohru !!!
N~a~t~s~u~n~o <3


Nov 14, 2010 4:36 PM

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AngelRaf said:

I can't wait to see Sunako's past to :)
Incredible duo ~ Toshio and Natsuno ~ they kick ass! xD
I don't think Tohru will help Natsuno against shikis.


*fangirl mode on* Natsuno is so much cuter than Tohru !!!
N~a~t~s~u~n~o <3




I like Natsuno, but Tooru... I can't bare his sweetnes! He's like... a sunshine after a rainy day! So positive! Aaagh! There is something disarming in him <3
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The ending was utterly epic and a huge developmùent at the same time. Strange thing is that Natsuno didn't actually have shiki eyes, so I don't really know what to think at the moment. Anyway, the undead will take hard from now on it seems.

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Didn't like how that nurse quit just b/c Toshio was out of it when he was about to kill his wife. Then again, I could sympathize with the monk, I would definately have reservations about killing sentient beings such as the Shiki (at first). Especially someone close to me and if they were in a helpless position.
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AngelRaf said:
Snowley said:
So our dr van Helsing is getting help from from a vampire... interesting developement indeed (not that I didn't expect it) . Next ep he are ought to see little lady Shiki past... I'm quite curious.

Ok, now I stpo being eloqent ang go for my fangirl spasm: kyaaaa Tooru, you're so cute with all those little diasies *____* that was so unbelievely.... aaah, cute!


I can't wait to see Sunako's past to :)
Incredible duo ~ Toshio and Natsuno ~ they kick ass! xD
I don't think Tohru will help Natsuno against shikis.


*fangirl mode on* Natsuno is so much cuter than Tohru !!!
N~a~t~s~u~n~o <3


I love Sunako, vampire loli is always right.

Epic Natsuno and Ozaki team incoming is going to make this show awesome. I kind of hope Tohru joins in as well since he seems to still want to be friendly with Natsuno, but I unfortunately don't see it happening. They're probably going to end up in a fight, assuming Megumi doesn't kill Tohru eventually. :(
Nov 15, 2010 12:56 AM

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Magumi killing Tooru? Shit, no! ;_______;
Nov 15, 2010 1:19 AM

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LOL THE FUNERALS. Best part of this ep.

So Natsuno doesn't look like a shiki at all... weird. I hope it's nothing stupid like he's ~special~ or something. I already have a huge problem with bluehairedcatears guy in that respect. (A vampire who isn't susceptible to sunlight is not a vampire, ffs.)

Bring on moar plot/action pls.
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Snowley said:
AngelRaf said:

I can't wait to see Sunako's past to :)
Incredible duo ~ Toshio and Natsuno ~ they kick ass! xD
I don't think Tohru will help Natsuno against shikis.


*fangirl mode on* Natsuno is so much cuter than Tohru !!!
N~a~t~s~u~n~o <3




I like Natsuno, but Tooru... I can't bare his sweetnes! He's like... a sunshine after a rainy day! So positive! Aaagh! There is something disarming in him <3


But Natsuno is more cool than Tooru x)
I love him~ x3


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Sartaj said:
AngelRaf said:
Snowley said:
So our dr van Helsing is getting help from from a vampire... interesting developement indeed (not that I didn't expect it) . Next ep he are ought to see little lady Shiki past... I'm quite curious.

Ok, now I stpo being eloqent ang go for my fangirl spasm: kyaaaa Tooru, you're so cute with all those little diasies *____* that was so unbelievely.... aaah, cute!


I can't wait to see Sunako's past to :)
Incredible duo ~ Toshio and Natsuno ~ they kick ass! xD
I don't think Tohru will help Natsuno against shikis.


*fangirl mode on* Natsuno is so much cuter than Tohru !!!
N~a~t~s~u~n~o <3


I love Sunako, vampire loli is always right.

Epic Natsuno and Ozaki team incoming is going to make this show awesome. I kind of hope Tohru joins in as well since he seems to still want to be friendly with Natsuno, but I unfortunately don't see it happening. They're probably going to end up in a fight, assuming Megumi doesn't kill Tohru eventually. :(


I don't belive to that Tooru will join them.Maybe Natsuno will kill Tohru? :O
Who knows.I can't wait to see what will happen. I hope Natsuno will kill Megumi :)
That whould be awsome * thinks how Natsuno is killing Megumi * xD
Waahahahaha!


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Ahh werewolf question doesn't matter anymore.
Caught up with Shiki today.
Nov 15, 2010 7:44 AM

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Yuuki~ *.*
Lol at the nurse wearing a maid costume x/D

Nov 15, 2010 10:02 AM

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Damn, it cathed up with the translated manga. Stupid fucks translating backwards...
Anyway, the episode was great.
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Nov 15, 2010 11:52 AM

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Really a boring episode... hope episode 16 will be more interesting
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yamakasi said:
LOL THE FUNERALS. Best part of this ep.

So Natsuno doesn't look like a shiki at all... weird. I hope it's nothing stupid like he's ~special~ or something. I already have a huge problem with bluehairedcatears guy in that respect. (A vampire who isn't susceptible to sunlight is not a vampire, ffs.)

Bring on moar plot/action pls.


Tatsumi (the blue haired guy) isn't a vampire. He's a werewolf. The newest episode 15 confirmed it after the hilarious funeral night-club-like event.
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Sartaj said:
yamakasi said:
LOL THE FUNERALS. Best part of this ep.

So Natsuno doesn't look like a shiki at all... weird. I hope it's nothing stupid like he's ~special~ or something. I already have a huge problem with bluehairedcatears guy in that respect. (A vampire who isn't susceptible to sunlight is not a vampire, ffs.)

Bring on moar plot/action pls.


Tatsumi isn't a vampire, he's a werewolf. Episode 15 confirmed it after the hilarious funeral event.


Real werewolfs? :O
I don't think so.They are a special Shiki race I think.


Nov 15, 2010 2:00 PM

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AngelRaf said:

Real werewolfs? :O
I don't think so.They are a special Shiki race I think.


It's clear he's a werewolf race. He can go out during the day, he has excellent sense of smell and those wolfy like ears in his hair also are clear hints.

As for Natsuno:

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Clearly a good episode. Natsuno is back in action. Go here for my impressions http://wp.me/p12uiW-1Jp
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iMon said:
AngelRaf said:

Real werewolfs? :O
I don't think so.They are a special Shiki race I think.


It's clear he's a werewolf race. He can go out during the day, he has excellent sense of smell and those wolfy like ears in his hair also are clear hints.

As for Natsuno:




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iMon said:
AngelRaf said:

Real werewolfs? :O
I don't think so.They are a special Shiki race I think.


It's clear he's a werewolf race. He can go out during the day, he has excellent sense of smell and those wolfy like ears in his hair also are clear hints.

What? Did he say he was a werewolf explicitly? I swear he said at some point that he's a "special" kind of shiki, which implies he's still a vampire. I had thought he was a werewolf initially until he said that in one of the other eps (the one where he barges into the doctor's place during the day and without needing permission).

Somebody provide me with screenshots or something to show me where he says he's a werewolf.
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yamakasi said:
iMon said:
AngelRaf said:

Real werewolfs? :O
I don't think so.They are a special Shiki race I think.


It's clear he's a werewolf race. He can go out during the day, he has excellent sense of smell and those wolfy like ears in his hair also are clear hints.

What? Did he say he was a werewolf explicitly? I swear he said at some point that he's a "special" kind of shiki, which implies he's still a vampire. I had thought he was a werewolf initially until he said that in one of the other eps (the one where he barges into the doctor's place during the day and without needing permission).

Somebody provide me with screenshots or something to show me where he says he's a werewolf.


in this episode the funeral pink dressed guy called Tatsumi "jinrou" which is "werewolf".

Repeating what i said in my previous post this time without spoiler tag:
A werewolf in Shiki universe is still a vampire. They also suck blood and have fangs. The only difference is that they can go out on daylight. They are Vampires of the very rare Type "werewolf".

So yeah, Tatsumi is a shiki, but a special one.

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Orulyon said:
yamakasi said:
iMon said:
AngelRaf said:

Real werewolfs? :O
I don't think so.They are a special Shiki race I think.


It's clear he's a werewolf race. He can go out during the day, he has excellent sense of smell and those wolfy like ears in his hair also are clear hints.

What? Did he say he was a werewolf explicitly? I swear he said at some point that he's a "special" kind of shiki, which implies he's still a vampire. I had thought he was a werewolf initially until he said that in one of the other eps (the one where he barges into the doctor's place during the day and without needing permission).

Somebody provide me with screenshots or something to show me where he says he's a werewolf.


in this episode the funeral pink dressed guy called Tatsumi "jinrou" which is "werewolf".

Repeating what i said in my previous post this time without spoiler tag:
A werewolf in Shiki universe is still a vampire. They also suck blood and have fangs. The only difference is that they can go out on daylight. They are Vampires of the very rare Type "werewolf".

So yeah, Tatsumi is a shiki, but a special one.

Ahh, I see. In the episode I saw it said "jinrou" and I didn't realise it meant werewolf, I just assumed it meant that ~special~ shiki like bluehairears guy. Vampires =/= werewolves, sry2say. Sigh, the writing for Shiki is even shittier than I thought.
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It is true that vampires are not werewolves, BUT in this story, these werewolves ARE a subset of the Shiki (the rising dead) race, according to Tatsumi. These werewolves did rise from the dead anyway, hence they are still shikis. The term 'shiki' is not bound to only vampires.
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To be honest, this episodes was way better than previous episodes. It finally got "good" now with Natsuno having become some weirdo shiki thingy or so.
Well, I did like the torture scene in the previous episode as well~
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Avalie said:
It is true that vampires are not werewolves, BUT in this story, these werewolves ARE a subset of the Shiki (the rising dead) race, according to Tatsumi. These werewolves did rise from the dead anyway, hence they are still shikis. The term 'shiki' is not bound to only vampires.


Pretty much this. The doctor as I recall did call Tatsumi specifically a werewolf, but Tatsumi is still a shiki specifically for this quoted reason. So, yes Tatsumi is a werewolf, yes Tatsumi is a shiki, but no Tatsumi is not a vampire.

As for Natsuno, I'm not really sure if he's a werewolf or vampire yet, but someone said he's a werewolf already, and he seems to have some similar traits to Tatsumi, so it's possible for sure.
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okay...here´s my opinion:

I think in this anime/manga, werewolfs are considered vampires (shikis). why? well

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Sartaj said:
Avalie said:
It is true that vampires are not werewolves, BUT in this story, these werewolves ARE a subset of the Shiki (the rising dead) race, according to Tatsumi. These werewolves did rise from the dead anyway, hence they are still shikis. The term 'shiki' is not bound to only vampires.


Pretty much this. The doctor as I recall did call Tatsumi specifically a werewolf, but Tatsumi is still a shiki specifically for this quoted reason. So, yes Tatsumi is a werewolf, yes Tatsumi is a shiki, but no Tatsumi is not a vampire.

As for Natsuno, I'm not really sure if he's a werewolf or vampire yet, but someone said he's a werewolf already, and he seems to have some similar traits to Tatsumi, so it's possible for sure.

All right. So it's like this: all "vampires" are shiki, but not all shiki are vampires because some are "werewolves". (Although how you make a werewolf from the undead, idk.)

At least that clears up some things in the Shiki universe. I still think it's bad writing.
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Nastuno Yuuki's outfit looks cool.

Will impatiently wait for next episode now.
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okay...here´s my opinion:

I think in this anime/manga, werewolfs are considered vampires (shikis). why? well


Werewolves have fangs too. And when did he suck blood? When did he get thirsty?
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iMon said:
Orulyon said:
okay...here´s my opinion:

I think in this anime/manga, werewolfs are considered vampires (shikis). why? well


Werewolves have fangs too. And when did he suck blood? When did he get thirsty?


It was Tatsumi who bit Kyoko.

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yamakasi said:
Sartaj said:
Avalie said:
It is true that vampires are not werewolves, BUT in this story, these werewolves ARE a subset of the Shiki (the rising dead) race, according to Tatsumi. These werewolves did rise from the dead anyway, hence they are still shikis. The term 'shiki' is not bound to only vampires.


Pretty much this. The doctor as I recall did call Tatsumi specifically a werewolf, but Tatsumi is still a shiki specifically for this quoted reason. So, yes Tatsumi is a werewolf, yes Tatsumi is a shiki, but no Tatsumi is not a vampire.

As for Natsuno, I'm not really sure if he's a werewolf or vampire yet, but someone said he's a werewolf already, and he seems to have some similar traits to Tatsumi, so it's possible for sure.

All right. So it's like this: all "vampires" are shiki, but not all shiki are vampires because some are "werewolves". (Although how you make a werewolf from the undead, idk.)

At least that clears up some things in the Shiki universe. I still think it's bad writing.


Well I can't entirely disagree with you. I never heard of werewolves in any lore or movies drinking blood. I know they bite out people's throats, but I always took that as just an aggressive trait of being a monster. And never I heard of them being undead, either. As far as I know, werewolf scratched/bit by another werewolf and their body just morphs, but in Shiki, seems getting bit by another "shiki" (be it vampire or werewolf) has a chance to either have you rise as a vampire, or very rarely(as it hints), as a werewolf. I don't know if the writer is trying to be original or unique, but it does seem a bit lame.

All the same though, the show is still entertaining, so I'll just accept things for what they are, and enjoy it.
Nov 18, 2010 12:09 AM

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Must have more Natsuno!!! So glad he's back! Knew he would be.
Nov 19, 2010 9:03 AM
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the most epic funeral I have ever seen
sayonara!!!!


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OMFG! I want Willy Wonka to hold my funeral too!!!

And lol @ Natsuno's pretty pink shoes!
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Gawd.
This show has everything:

House
Monk
Homolust
Fabulous
Gackt
Lady Gaga
Willy Wonka
(I'm probably missing some more but w/e, you get the point lol)

But Natsuno's outfit just kills me.
It looked pretty awesome in the manga but seeing it in color....er, not so much.
Then again, this series does take place in the 90s. The 90s had some funky fashion.
Nov 25, 2010 5:54 PM
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Yeah, Natsuno's back and he doesn't seem to be under the control of the Kirishikis. Looks like he might help out the doc.
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*Do we have to discuss everything that had happen here* for the 1st post =)

anyway

Chizuru's getting a little sizzle
I wonder why Natsuno's eye color didn't change when he now is a Shiki
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Natsuno, for the win. =)

Felt a bit bad for that nurse... :/
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Kirishiki Chizuru always wears weird clothes...
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Orulyon said:
Sucrose said:
I keep wondering, how did they become werewolves?
It seems werewolves are different in the Shiki universe, they're just another form of vampire from what I've gathered :S


and you´re right.


The Funeral was awesome!

Vampires, werewolves and .... that is True Blood

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Natsuno didn't look like shiki but it seems that he is one.
I am wondering why doctor didn't show that movie to someone he trust, maybe nurses?
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Tohru leaving flowers D;
Hmm, so Natsuno looks kind of different form a Shiki ... and apparently that blue haired guy is a werewolf? O_O
Chizuru ... I seriously thought it'd be Kyoko even though I knew she was killed O_O
Hmm ... wow, the village's really going into the rots isn't it >_<
Next episode looks like Akira's dad and he has to kill him? O_O Plus more Sunako and Tohru?! ;O
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I figured natsuno was coming back...sadly with really bad clothes.
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Damn, the doctor going through a tough time. The remaining residents in town don't want to believe a single word of what's going around...they are being played. Sooner or later the Shiki's have to do something extraordinary and i can't wait!!
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I was on the show the video's side. Of course, i usually want the main characters to do stupid things, so i know it made sense that he didn't. Painful to watch them still acting like that even when he has evidence.

Yeah, it's totally bad to see how people react to the truth. I feel like they're trying too hard to be completely "rational". They just don't want to see the truth. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Natsuno's back! With a horrible outfit though xD Anyway, if he's a shiki, why didn't his eyes change? And what are his intentions now? I think he'll try to help the doctor (he could have used a more direct approach though) but will he be able to resist the hunger? He'll eventually have to attack people isn't it so?
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