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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Ok I got to go do something but let me tell you that the reporter lady in this episode is just plain stupid to have been bitten by a vampire (on the breast of all places...makes it look a little bit erotic) and put a bomb into her body just to get rid of Mina. Mina talked much more in this episode. Apart from that action was mediocre at best with Akira being vigilant and saving Mina from the bomb....a little gruesome to see a chest stitched/vampire fangs . Seeing Mina in a bath was a delight. I did not get the names but I am assuming this is Vera=>  |
francismeunierJan 28, 2010 1:52 AM
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| What's a bund anyway? XD Looking forward to this episode. ^^ |
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| wow I can't believe they actually followed most of the manga material this time. A pleasant surprise I will admit |
Darklight0303 said: They did? Well then the manga is good after all. Frankly this episode proves that but I wonder how much more they will follow it....wow I can't believe they actually followed most of the manga material this time. A pleasant surprise I will admit |
In spoiler my anime list for now. |
Jumperboy333 said: Did you meant "band" ? As if "group" in meaning? In Japanese " バンド Bando " really sound like bounto or bund ........What's a bund anyway? XD Looking forward to this episode. ^^ |
| The reason for the creation of the Band is for the sake of children? when Akira ask this question.....Mina said as if she hope this should be the reason.Then whats the true reason of the creation of the Band? (its only 4 episode ^^ ) |
francismeunier said: Darklight0303 said: They did? Well then the manga is good after all. Frankly this episode proves that but I wonder how much more they will follow it....wow I can't believe they actually followed most of the manga material this time. A pleasant surprise I will admit Yep! They cut out a few smaller bits like the ambush at the docks and Akira's confrontation with that vampire duke in the elevator. |
| The story is lacking a bit of coherence.. enjoyable nonetheless. gloryfy said: A Bund is a Federation. The true reason for its creation may be a part of this ominous promise the two protagonists made.Jumperboy333 said: Did you meant "band" ? As if "group" in meaning? In Japanese " バンド Bando " really sound like bounto or bund ........What's a bund anyway? XD Looking forward to this episode. ^^ Then whats the true reason of the creation of the Band? |
Proselyt said: gloryfy said: A Bund is a Federation. The true reason for its creation may be a part of this ominous promise the two protagonists made.Jumperboy333 said: Did you meant "band" ? As if "group" in meaning? In Japanese " バンド Bando " really sound like bounto or bund ........What's a bund anyway? XD Looking forward to this episode. ^^ Then whats the true reason of the creation of the Band? Ah thanks. Still waiting for subs... D: SFW's late. |
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| Still no subs, eh? Gotta be patient. |
| No subs (crap) but holy crap, they're following the manga albeit vaguely and as much as possible within 12 episodes! (Yes, I couldn't take it anymore. I read the manga....I'm so ashamed >,<) |
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tasan said: Censors? Did not see any at all...where?I may not care for the ecchi in the series but I am not happy to hear that episode 4 was apparently censored. The sub is out already but they randomly have decided to censor it starting with 4. I hate censorship. Anyone know if any of the stations )AT-X) actually aired the uncensored version or if they will? I will not watch this series with any form of censorship in it. |
In spoiler my anime list for now. |
| Subs are out by Coalguys and this was an awesome episode! It stayed almost completely faithful to the manga. |
| Enjoyable. Looks like things might get more interesting later on. |
| ^^Yes, I'm very, very glad that they foreshadowed "that" area and during the credits we saw "you-know-who" so we're definitely getting "that other arc" as well. (But I hope they don't forget about the BL novel. That was hilarious) |
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| Vera-dono :Q Oho seems like someone will be disturbed about that bomb thrown into the basement XD Now this is what i'm waiting for, but Akira didn't know Wolf is his daddy is a bit disappointing, does he remember his mom or the other? |
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| Well, the best ep so far, also the closest to manga. |
| レッツゴー ED イケイケゴーゴー |
garfield15 said: This just made it totally irrestible.........*off to peek into the manga* ^^Yes, I'm very, very glad that they foreshadowed "that" area and during the credits we saw "you-know-who" so we're definitely getting "that other arc" as well. (But I hope they don't forget about the BL novel. That was hilarious) Loved the whole group of vampires who refrain from drinking human blood and apparently they puller out their fangs by themselves..O.O Many viewers dislike the whole childish side of Mina..but I think it makes her more scarier that way." Once an evil alway an evil" = quiet boring to say---> making my own quotes XD. Did they reveal anything about the promise made by Akira and Mina in the manga?? |
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| Ok, I liked it, but. The bomb was stolen. Why have the bomb in the first place? Cheap plot ploy. If there no bomb, there's no bomb to get stolen. |
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datsunvic said: I thought that noble guy was trying to kill Mina and having it stolen wasn't part of the plan.Ok, I liked it, but. The bomb was stolen. Why have the bomb in the first place? Cheap plot ploy. If there no bomb, there's no bomb to get stolen. |
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tasan said: I may not care for the ecchi in the series but I am not happy to hear that episode 4 was apparently censored. The sub is out already but they randomly have decided to censor it starting with 4. I hate censorship. Anyone know if any of the stations )AT-X) actually aired the uncensored version or if they will? I will not watch this series with any form of censorship in it. If you want the uncensored episodes, look for Yuurisans releases. They cut the uncensored parts in the regular episodes and sub them. Anyway, is Shaft trying to pull it off again? I spotted two sudden red screens. Perhaps they couldn't be bothered by animating those scenes, or thought they would get censored anyway. (Scene where Mina's servant stabs the journalist) And I suppose I should add this, but whenever I'm watching this show, I don't feel anything. It doesn't move me at all. It doesn't make me anticipate the next episode at all; nothing, nada. So much for the 'expectations'. Seems to happen to a lot of shows this season. |
desolatoJan 30, 2010 9:46 AM
| Nice to see that they somewhat follow the manga story :) But they aren't nearly as good at portrait the characters and their motives. Though am I the only one who find the visuals to be quite annoying? Honest during the first 15min or so they didn't stay in one scene for more than ~10sec, they keep blinking between new frames.. talk about giving people epilepsy o.O |
EternalDreamer said: Though am I the only one who find the visuals to be quite annoying? Honest during the first 15min or so they didn't stay in one scene for more than ~10sec, they keep blinking between new frames.. talk about giving people epilepsy o.O Yeah, it's annoying. I don't like art either. |
| レッツゴー ED イケイケゴーゴー |
OrochiPL said: EternalDreamer said: Though am I the only one who find the visuals to be quite annoying? Honest during the first 15min or so they didn't stay in one scene for more than ~10sec, they keep blinking between new frames.. talk about giving people epilepsy o.O Yeah, it's annoying. I don't like art either. Same here. I wrote about it in the last episode Discussion. I hate the style. I think it's just laziness. Notice how most of the visuals were still images? At times the only thing moving in a scene is a persons mouth. Also zoomed in parts of a character means there is less to animate. This is not really animation and more like a picture book. At the moment it seems that the director has noticed that no one wants his version of the story and has decided to do what he should have been doing in the first place and that is follow the manga. Problem is that he has screwed the story up too much and left inconsistencies. Now everything is jumbled up. For example, why is it that Mina is having another press conference to explain what she already has said in the first episode? Does that not render the first episode pointless? Why is it that nobody gives a damn about the student president going missing? Why is Mina's personality so contradictory? Why did Akira and that woman stand on the roof so long that the sun was able to set and turn to night? Even if it was for the sake of atmosphere it was still downright stupid. Anime makers, please drill this rule into your heads. DO NOT F*CK WITH THE SOURCE MATERIAL! If you want to make something original, then great. Build it from the ground up. But don't just rob a story and attempt to put your own spin on it. We don't want your story. We want the story. The one that captured our hearts. We want the original, not some cheap knockoff. I would drop this show. But there is feck all else to watch this season so I might as well stick it out. |
 "I always take life with a grain of salt, ...plus a slice of lemon, ...and a shot of tequila." |
| This episode started off a bit slow, but I liked the interview with Mina at the end. I love how she can remain so calm even in front of a clueless paparazzi. Vera seems like an interesting character, and I hope she and Akira work together as a team in the future. :) |
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OrochiPL said: Its just plain irritating..EternalDreamer said: Though am I the only one who find the visuals to be quite annoying? Honest during the first 15min or so they didn't stay in one scene for more than ~10sec, they keep blinking between new frames.. talk about giving people epilepsy o.O Yeah, it's annoying. |
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AidanAK47 said: Anime makers, please drill this rule into your heads. DO NOT F*CK WITH THE SOURCE MATERIAL! If you want to make something original, then great. Build it from the ground up. But don't just rob a story and attempt to put your own spin on it. We don't want your story. We want the story. The one that captured our hearts. We want the original, not some cheap knockoff. I would drop this show. But there is feck all else to watch this season so I might as well stick it out. For one thing, Bund's mangaka told SHAFT to do their own story and not the manga's. |
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AidanAK47 said: Anime makers, please drill this rule into your heads. DO NOT F*CK WITH THE SOURCE MATERIAL! If you want to make something original, then great. Build it from the ground up. But don't just rob a story and attempt to put your own spin on it. We don't want your story. We want the story. The one that captured our hearts. We want the original, not some cheap knockoff. It wasn't SHAFT's idea to do their own story, it was the mangaka's. I posted the quote in the episode 2 discussion I think. AidanAK47 said: But...but what about Durarara and BakaTest?I would drop this show. But there is feck all else to watch this season so I might as well stick it out. |
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| So Mina is trying to be some capitalist dictatress who wants to create her own little independent state while having a noble goal? She sounds more human to me than vampire. Also why the heck did those security guys bring a bomb in the first place? And if the reason was to use it against the princess, why didn't that old guy get arrested after revealing there was a bomb? Why would they kill their own princess - and die in the process - anyway? Why is everybody acting all happy-happy? Man, vampires seem to be pretty retarded even after living for that long. The world's probably doomed since they control it. Let's just say the guys at Shaft didn't have enough time to make everything plausible. |
| Well honestly, I find this show amazing. I love the animation. I think it's one of the reasons why I picked it up in the first place. I have only watched two Shaft productions, which are Ef and this. I was amazed at how artistically brilliant Ef was, so I don't expect much less from this anime. And so far, I am quite pleased with the animations. |
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Kurogashi said: I was amazed at how artistically brilliant Ef was, so I don't expect much less from this anime. And so far, I am quite pleased with the animations. I wouldn't even compare EF series to this. It's getting better now though. |
| レッツゴー ED イケイケゴーゴー |
| Finally a DitVB that I really liked. Seriously, I was extremely disappointed with episodes 2 and 3, but now I see the real Mina Tepes and the real Akira emerging. |
AidanAK47 said: OrochiPL said: EternalDreamer said: Though am I the only one who find the visuals to be quite annoying? Honest during the first 15min or so they didn't stay in one scene for more than ~10sec, they keep blinking between new frames.. talk about giving people epilepsy o.O Yeah, it's annoying. I don't like art either. Same here. I wrote about it in the last episode Discussion. I hate the style. I think it's just laziness. Notice how most of the visuals were still images? At times the only thing moving in a scene is a persons mouth. Also zoomed in parts of a character means there is less to animate. This is not really animation and more like a picture book. Glad I'm not the only one who's really bugged by this =P This is one of the reasons I think peoples need to get their heads out of their arses and realize just how overrated SHAFT actually is, honestly they're just toying with you and testing how low on quality they can go before people start to complain. |
EternalDreamer said: AidanAK47 said: OrochiPL said: EternalDreamer said: Though am I the only one who find the visuals to be quite annoying? Honest during the first 15min or so they didn't stay in one scene for more than ~10sec, they keep blinking between new frames.. talk about giving people epilepsy o.O Yeah, it's annoying. I don't like art either. Same here. I wrote about it in the last episode Discussion. I hate the style. I think it's just laziness. Notice how most of the visuals were still images? At times the only thing moving in a scene is a persons mouth. Also zoomed in parts of a character means there is less to animate. This is not really animation and more like a picture book. Glad I'm not the only one who's really bugged by this =P This is one of the reasons I think peoples need to get their heads out of their arses and realize just how overrated SHAFT actually is, honestly they're just toying with you and testing how low on quality they can go before people start to complain. Agreed, everyone think that Shaft is amazing and here we have a proof that they can make real shit. EF was amazing though ;P |
| レッツゴー ED イケイケゴーゴー |
OrochiPL said: Aw, SHAFT ain't that bad.EternalDreamer said: AidanAK47 said: OrochiPL said: EternalDreamer said: Though am I the only one who find the visuals to be quite annoying? Honest during the first 15min or so they didn't stay in one scene for more than ~10sec, they keep blinking between new frames.. talk about giving people epilepsy o.O Yeah, it's annoying. I don't like art either. Same here. I wrote about it in the last episode Discussion. I hate the style. I think it's just laziness. Notice how most of the visuals were still images? At times the only thing moving in a scene is a persons mouth. Also zoomed in parts of a character means there is less to animate. This is not really animation and more like a picture book. Glad I'm not the only one who's really bugged by this =P This is one of the reasons I think peoples need to get their heads out of their arses and realize just how overrated SHAFT actually is, honestly they're just toying with you and testing how low on quality they can go before people start to complain. Agreed, everyone think that Shaft is amazing and here we have a proof that they can make real shit. EF was amazing though ;P They've got a good track record and reputation. It's like BONES except without the competence |
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| For some reason, I feel so happy watching this shit today....Since I'm in such a happy mood, might as well grade it 1/5 this time around.... So happy to see that moving mouth....Even more happy to see the still images....That winged pig is pure happiness too... A happy shit shall I call it....<333 |
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EternalDreamer said: This is one of the reasons I think peoples need to get their heads out of their arses and realize just how overrated SHAFT actually is, honestly they're just toying with you and testing how low on quality they can go before people start to complain. Lol calling one overrated just for the one failed one? > Majority of SHAFT works are good > Overrated because Vampire Bund is shit. > Cooking logics I really hate when people use the word 'overrated' on anime studios. They make good works, but also bad works. Hurr durr. Extreme-Anti-fanboism is as bad as extreme-fanboism. anyways, this episode was still let down. Character design is shitty, but background art is decent. I'm still waiting for the proper ending animation... >_> |
Goo4 said: EternalDreamer said: This is one of the reasons I think peoples need to get their heads out of their arses and realize just how overrated SHAFT actually is, honestly they're just toying with you and testing how low on quality they can go before people start to complain. Lol calling one overrated just for the one failed one? > Majority of SHAFT works are good > Overrated because Vampire Bund is shit. > Cooking logics I really hate when people use the word 'overrated' on anime studios. They make good works, but also bad works. Hurr durr. Extreme-Anti-fanboism is as bad as extreme-fanboism. anyways, this episode was still let down. Character design is shitty, but background art is decent. I'm still waiting for the proper ending animation... >_> One failed? Dude SHAFT have done one (well two) really good anime series and that is Ef, the rest is either average or not worth watching imho. Hardly what I call an outstanding track record^^ And with all deluded fans they seems to have I'd say SHAFT definitely qualify for the category of totally overrated ;) |
| What about Zetsubou Sensei and Natsu no Arashi? |
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garfield15 said: [ AidanAK47 said: But...but what about Durarara and BakaTest?I would drop this show. But there is feck all else to watch this season so I might as well stick it out. Who said I wasn't watching them? There are only three good shows this season. Hidden god, Durarara and BakaTest. (I didn't really get into Sora no woto) Goo4 said: EternalDreamer said: This is one of the reasons I think peoples need to get their heads out of their arses and realize just how overrated SHAFT actually is, honestly they're just toying with you and testing how low on quality they can go before people start to complain. Lol calling one overrated just for the one failed one? > Majority of SHAFT works are good > Overrated because Vampire Bund is shit. > Cooking logics I really hate when people use the word 'overrated' on anime studios. They make good works, but also bad works. Hurr durr. Extreme-Anti-fanboism is as bad as extreme-fanboism. Majority?! (Looks at a list of shaft work) Lets see....Mahoromatic and Rec were good....and Bakemonogatari was alright. That's three. Three animes that I notice as good. Three out of Nineteen animes. Not excellent. But good.(I will be checking out EF later seeing how everyone's mentioning it) |
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Wasabi said: Does not = to SHAFT having to accept that at all....we all have choices in the end. AidanAK47 said: Anime makers, please drill this rule into your heads. DO NOT F*CK WITH THE SOURCE MATERIAL! If you want to make something original, then great. Build it from the ground up. But don't just rob a story and attempt to put your own spin on it. We don't want your story. We want the story. The one that captured our hearts. We want the original, not some cheap knockoff. I would drop this show. But there is feck all else to watch this season so I might as well stick it out. For one thing, Bund's mangaka told SHAFT to do their own story and not the manga's. Alexstratz said: Looks like to me it's insulting a lot the vampires in Vampire Knight I feel bad for them in regard to this serie.Man, vampires seem to be pretty retarded even after living for that long. The world's probably doomed since they control it. Let's just say the guys at Shaft didn't have enough time to make everything plausible. |
In spoiler my anime list for now. |
EternalDreamer said: Goo4 said: EternalDreamer said: This is one of the reasons I think peoples need to get their heads out of their arses and realize just how overrated SHAFT actually is, honestly they're just toying with you and testing how low on quality they can go before people start to complain. Lol calling one overrated just for the one failed one? > Majority of SHAFT works are good > Overrated because Vampire Bund is shit. > Cooking logics I really hate when people use the word 'overrated' on anime studios. They make good works, but also bad works. Hurr durr. Extreme-Anti-fanboism is as bad as extreme-fanboism. anyways, this episode was still let down. Character design is shitty, but background art is decent. I'm still waiting for the proper ending animation... >_> One failed? Dude SHAFT have done one (well two) really good anime series and that is Ef, the rest is either average or not worth watching imho. Hardly what I call an outstanding track record^^ And with all deluded fans they seems to have I'd say SHAFT definitely qualify for the category of totally overrated ;) Just because you don't like their series doesn't mean it's overrated. Sure, it's overrated for YOU. But overall, it's not that overrated. And I agree that "overrated" cannot really apply to an entire studio. Episode is picking up. Not really a fan of the artwork, but oh well... And SHAFT are regular trolls. Although I prefer their trolling compared to KyoAni's trolling. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| I'll try not to sound too much as the Shaft-fangirl I am. Personally, I love the way they play with the camera angles and static images. As animation per say it may not be great, but I think it matches the kind of anime they produce. Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, Bakemonogatari, Natsu no Arashi and Dance in the Vampire Bund are series highly focused on the dialogues. If they were action series, Shaft's way of animating would suck. But they are not. But even as a Shaft-fangirl I gotta say they really *ucked up in Dance in the Vampire Bund's 2nd and 3rd episodes (1 was just for the lulz), but I think (and hope) that now we'll get somewhere. Edit: also, they could just make Akira remember everything. This "demi-amnesia" is really annoying x.x |
| yeah, they should DEFINITELY make this amnesia go away. He now acts like a dumb boy, which he isn't :/ |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
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