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FGAU1912 said: ie the us is not the great bastion of democracy it says it is Congratulations, you have achieved the level of sociopolitical awareness of a standard 13-year-old. |
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| I am not a fan of mandatory ownership. A right implies that it is optional for someone to exercise. That said I favor mandatory firearm safety courses in schools. We have at least 80 million gun owners in this country many of of whom have families and there are enough guns in this country for every man woman and child in this country. That means even the kids of people who don't own guns might find a gun.Kids should be taught to not mess with firearms without adult supervision, to not treat guns as toys, to not point guns at their friends and so on. Maybe even have some public service commercials reminding parents to keep their guns out of their kids reach and to help teach proper firearm safety |
ezikialrage said: first off everyone who is in favor of gun safety classes is missing 1 giant flaw in the plan. which class would you replace to put in the gun safety classes? there isnt unlimited time in a day. if you add 1 class you need to remove another one and which one will it be. also if this class does exist they probably shouldnt be using live ammunition because it doesnt matter how professional a teacher is mistakeswill be made because the teacher is still human and a mistake with a gun is a deadly mistakeI am not a fan of mandatory ownership. A right implies that it is optional for someone to exercise. That said I favor mandatory firearm safety courses in schools. We have at least 80 million gun owners in this country many of of whom have families and there are enough guns in this country for every man woman and child in this country. That means even the kids of people who don't own guns might find a gun.Kids should be taught to not mess with firearms without adult supervision, to not treat guns as toys, to not point guns at their friends and so on. Maybe even have some public service commercials reminding parents to keep their guns out of their kids reach and to help teach proper firearm safety |
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| I wish countries had some kind of middle ground. Here I can't get a hold of a gun but I would love to own one and be able to go shooting now and again but its so hard to get one might as well not try. In America sure its to an extreme but at least you guys have some access. And I think everyone growing up should learn how to shoot just in case, its like I think parents should teach their children how to hunt and survive in the wild. Its skills that they can take forward in life, feel the responsibility, maybe even grow up abit. The problem with American citizens is they have grown up with guns, they are so normal and average nobody respects the weapon, its just a toy to a lot of people. A person should feel the weight of responsibility for owning one and to respect every round they fire for the danger that they possess. I don't have the answer but the best ground would be some kind of middle ground. Im not for guns for everyone and im against guns for nobody. |
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mattbenz99 said: that shooter went to that school because his mother worked there. i am sure even if there were guns in the school he would of still went. If there were guns there he would have been shot before he could have a chance to massacre a bunch of kids. Find me a single mass-shooting that's occurred at a gun-show. |
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StopDropAndBowl said: if 2 or more people are shooting each other then how will the police know who the mass shooter really is when they arrive?mattbenz99 said: that shooter went to that school because his mother worked there. i am sure even if there were guns in the school he would of still went. If there were guns there he would have been shot before he could have a chance to massacre a bunch of kids. Find me a single mass-shooting that's occurred at a gun-show. |
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mattbenz99 said: JD2411 said: JD i think we found a subject other than clannad that we agree onthis is so fucking stupid just let them all have guns so they can kill each-other and we can be done with that 3rd world shit hole I saw that |
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mattbenz99 said: if 2 or more people are shooting each other then how will the police know who the mass shooter really is when they arrive? Bob starts shooting a bunch of people, so Alice starts shooting at Bob to stop him. But then Matt sees Alice shooting and he thinks she's the shooter and so he shoots at Alice, but Tom knows Alice isn't the shooter because he saw Bob start shooting, so he shoots at Matt because he assumes Matt is an accomplice, but then Karl sees Tom shooting at Matt and he shoots Tom, but then Bob notices that everyone is shooting at each other and he slips out. Timmy, Johnny, and Billy all bust in with their shotguns (cause they heard the shots from outside) and they start shooting at everyone because they think everyone is a mass-killer. Gertrude, Harold, and Fionna get tired of the idiocy and pull out their guns and just kill everyone. Yeah, I've heard this argument before, and it's fucking retarded. Who the fuck just starts shooting at random people? People aren't brainless morons. Everyone would just hit the deck and Alice, Matt, Tom, Karl, Gertrude, Harold, and Fionna would blast Bob into oblivion, and then Johnny, Timmy, and Billy would come in, see that the area is secure, and call the cops to come clean up the mess. That is, if Bob was even willing to try starting a mass-shooting if he knew for damn sure that every "target" was actually a walking fucking armory. |
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DerpHole said: mattbenz99 said: JD i think we found a subject other than clannad that we agree on I saw that lololol! |
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StopDropAndBowl said: yes under extreme stress humans are idiots.mattbenz99 said: if 2 or more people are shooting each other then how will the police know who the mass shooter really is when they arrive? Bob starts shooting a bunch of people, so Alice starts shooting at Bob to stop him. But then Matt sees Alice shooting and he thinks she's the shooter and so he shoots at Alice, but Tom knows Alice isn't the shooter because he saw Bob start shooting, so he shoots at Matt because he assumes Matt is an accomplice, but then Karl sees Tom shooting at Matt and he shoots Tom, but then Bob notices that everyone is shooting at each other and he slips out. Timmy, Johnny, and Billy all bust in with their shotguns (cause they heard the shots from outside) and they start shooting at everyone because they think everyone is a mass-killer. Gertrude, Harold, and Fionna get tired of the idiocy and pull out their guns and just kill everyone. Yeah, I've heard this argument before, and it's fucking retarded. Who the fuck just starts shooting at random people? People aren't brainless morons. Everyone would just hit the deck and Alice, Matt, Tom, Karl, Gertrude, Harold, and Fionna would blast Bob into oblivion, and then Johnny, Timmy, and Billy would come in, see that the area is secure, and call the cops to come clean up the mess. That is, if Bob was even willing to try starting a mass-shooting if he knew for damn sure that every "target" was actually a walking fucking armory. |
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UnoPuntoCinco said: 'muricans are like FAT cowboys with lots of money, ha! Yup. |
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ParaParaJMo said: bullshit with you Switzerland talk. people talk about Switzerland like there is 0 regulation on guns and thus no crime but that is bullshit. Switzerland has plenty of regulation on guns and bullets. please do some actual researchWell I'd rather be in USA than lets say Honduras or wherever. Russian and Chinese government have committed mass murders against its own people. UK still has a relatively violent crime rate in Europe compared to Switzerland which has the least gun related laws and one of the lowest crime rates in Europe. Fire arms related crimes in America have actually been decreasing the last 20 years. Chicago for its strictest gun laws in America still has the highest gun related crimes in the country. |
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ParaParaJMo said: they may have less than the rest of the eu but they still have much more regulation than the united states. i mean in many states you dont need a background check to sell a gun second hand. think about that all someone needs to do to get a gun is drive a few hours to a state like that buy one and drive back. that is why there is so much gun crime in chicago because to get a gun you only need to drive a few hours.mattbenz99 said: bullshit with you Switzerland talk. people talk about Switzerland like there is 0 regulation on guns and thus no crime but that is bullshit. Switzerland has plenty of regulation on guns and bullets. please do some actual research I never said there were no fire arms regulations and/or that they were non-existant in Switzerland, just that it had the least in the EU and tends to have a lower crime rate than England. Hell, like I said, Chicago has the strictest fire arm regulations in the country and look at how that is working out. |
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cabacc2 said: the founding fathers certainly didnt think about full automatic assault rifles when they made the constitution. I think the existence of assault rifles would only have made them even more adamant that there needs to be a right to bear arms. |
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StopDropAndBowl said: how?cabacc2 said: the founding fathers certainly didnt think about full automatic assault rifles when they made the constitution. I think the existence of assault rifles would only have made them even more adamant that there needs to be a right to bear arms. |
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cabacc2 said: the founding fathers certainly didnt think about full automatic assault rifles when they made the constitution. This video shows, yet again, the need for education. They comparison that guy made is beyond ridiculous. Additionally, he didnt actually justify his claim of guns being "necessary". He just portrayed this completely lunatic scenario. What a failure. the puckle gun was invented in 1718 it had the ability to go full auto based off a crank only problame is it was years ahead of its time when they didnt have shells and what not. the Gatling gun was later based off it too. don't give me that rot that the founding fathers were not aware of the evolution of guns |
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| I spent 7 years in three different military's, I seriously put down range about 3-6 million rounds during my career. ive seen 4 tours of duties in some of the worst shit holes you can think of, Africa, Afgan and even Iraq and some i wont mention. ive been shot at, ive shot people and ive killed people. I am now a Paramedic, I carry a gun on me where ever I go and i own lots of guns, not because im some loony or someone with issues but because ive seen first hand what monsters can do with guns and I know what they do when there arnt any good guys around with guns. you people talk as if banning guns will solve everyone's probs and issues. yeah thats what they thought when they banned alcohol in the 20s and we all know how well that worked out for them. same will happen with guns, a bad guy will always find means and ways to acquire a gun with or without laws and restrictions. when you go apply for a gun you have to pass background checks and even after your first firearm you continue to have background checks and the more you want the more they dig into you. we have enough bullshit laws already. The Second Amendment made to to protect our life and liberties not to mention to protect the 1st Amendment because you cant have one without the other. no butts about it. as for the talk about the Founding Fathers not knowing about full auto this or assault rifles that. (The Puckle Gun) was created in the early 1700, 60+ years before the constitution was even written. it had the ability to go Full Auto based off a rotating cylinder based off a crank shaft. only issue is it was years ahead of its time and because there were no shells, it took a long time to reload. The Gatling gun would later be invented based off it.....so there you have that. if you want to talk about gun ownership being a right then I for sure damn earned it in blood and even so everyone has a right as a American Citizen to own a Firearm as long as they havnt proven incapable otherwise. you can talk all you want about fear mongering this or that and thinking of the worst out come possible but thats just ignorant talk. most gun owners have spent thousands of dollars for training not to mention range time so they are pretty well trained to handle situations. also it is not that easy to get a firearm. first you need the required money for the gun. you go into a store fill out a 2 page paperwork with your first middle and last name, your social number, date of birth, the address where you live and other optional items. they then call the FBI and they transfer that info to them which takes 10 minutes to run the check and they say YES for Clear and No for not clear. if they clear you then you hand the money and get your gun and you walk out and if they dont clear you then they throw you out and call the police, its a 20-40 minute process total so how is this easy?. it also differs per country like in California its a 7 day wait period for background checks. when I went for my CCW(Concealed Carry Permit) or CCP its different per state. I had to pay 200 dollars, get 8 hours of training done and pass two background checks before being cleared and this is after all the military training too. gun ownership is a choice, and everyone has a right to choose to own a firearm or not, if you dont that is cool but dont force your opinions of why people should not own a gun based off lies and wrongful facts. remember its your 1st Amendment right to have a choice to even speak that talk in the first place and it was earned using guns. one last thing I will add. If you are not an American Citizen and are from another country then you have no right to tell us how to live or even attempt to claim to know what you are talking about. dont own a gun then dont act like you do. |
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MrAnimeFan said: I think that all gun owners should undergo a basic shooter's training in order to receive a permit to own a gun of any sort. Furthermore, all fees of this training would go towards federal trainers (I'm talking about hiring Vets). During this trial period, besides the background checks all gun owners are subject to, the trainers are to observe closely the mental state of each gun owner that they train. Therefore the trainers themselves need to be checked on an advisably semi-annual basis. They must also go through training themselves where they are taught to notice signs of unhealthy mental states. This way, people can learn to use guns, and the government can moderate who uses and controls guns. The rest of the logistics can be worked out. I own a Russian, Izhmash-made Saiga rifle, CA Legal version, never fully modified it to look like an AK but a Saiga instead. I also own a Saiga shotgun, TOZ-78 (Also known as Winchester Wildcat) and a Tokarev-33 Pistol. Each gun registered, licensed, and legal. My uncle has served in the military and he has taught me to use the weapons. Personally I am for the usage of weapons--anyone remember the case of the woman with a baby and a shotgun, when a thief entered her house? If she hadn't that shotgun, and if she hadn't fired the gun, she might've lost her life, her baby, or have been raped, or any number of possible negative consequences. http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder911-operators-shoot/story?id=15285605 |
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Jayex said: MrAnimeFan said: I think that all gun owners should undergo a basic shooter's training in order to receive a permit to own a gun of any sort. Furthermore, all fees of this training would go towards federal trainers (I'm talking about hiring Vets). During this trial period, besides the background checks all gun owners are subject to, the trainers are to observe closely the mental state of each gun owner that they train. Therefore the trainers themselves need to be checked on an advisably semi-annual basis. They must also go through training themselves where they are taught to notice signs of unhealthy mental states. This way, people can learn to use guns, and the government can moderate who uses and controls guns. The rest of the logistics can be worked out. I own a Russian, Izhmash-made Saiga rifle, CA Legal version, never fully modified it to look like an AK but a Saiga instead. I also own a Saiga shotgun, TOZ-78 (Also known as Winchester Wildcat) and a Tokarev-33 Pistol. Each gun registered, licensed, and legal. My uncle has served in the military and he has taught me to use the weapons. Personally I am for the usage of weapons--anyone remember the case of the woman with a baby and a shotgun, when a thief entered her house? If she hadn't that shotgun, and if she hadn't fired the gun, she might've lost her life, her baby, or have been raped, or any number of possible negative consequences. http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder911-operators-shoot/story?id=15285605 I am for minor background checking because it helps stop the bad guys somewhat but in the end they will always have a gun. as for a government needing to know what I own or have, they dont. gun registration is the first step to gun confiscation and history has proven that. |
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mattbenz99 said: Ok can we all just agree that the musket is the coolest gun ever? I mean you shoot it and it is like an explosion with the noise and smoke cloud it creates. Yes! Known for its superb and ultimate accuracy! Oh my goodness! The reality is a cheap hunting rifle like a Winchester Wildcat shoots straighter than that thing. Unless you're a beast 18th century sniper. |
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MrAnimeFan said: Jayex said: I think that all gun owners should undergo a basic shooter's training in order to receive a permit to own a gun of any sort. Furthermore, all fees of this training would go towards federal trainers (I'm talking about hiring Vets). During this trial period, besides the background checks all gun owners are subject to, the trainers are to observe closely the mental state of each gun owner that they train. Therefore the trainers themselves need to be checked on an advisably semi-annual basis. They must also go through training themselves where they are taught to notice signs of unhealthy mental states. This way, people can learn to use guns, and the government can moderate who uses and controls guns. The rest of the logistics can be worked out. I own a Russian, Izhmash-made Saiga rifle, CA Legal version, never fully modified it to look like an AK but a Saiga instead. I also own a Saiga shotgun, TOZ-78 (Also known as Winchester Wildcat) and a Tokarev-33 Pistol. Each gun registered, licensed, and legal. My uncle has served in the military and he has taught me to use the weapons. Personally I am for the usage of weapons--anyone remember the case of the woman with a baby and a shotgun, when a thief entered her house? If she hadn't that shotgun, and if she hadn't fired the gun, she might've lost her life, her baby, or have been raped, or any number of possible negative consequences. http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder911-operators-shoot/story?id=15285605 I am for minor background checking because it helps stop the bad guys somewhat but in the end they will always have a gun. as for a government needing to know what I own or have, they dont. gun registration is the first step to gun confiscation and history has proven that. That's true. I haven't quite put as much consideration into all that as you have. I'll think about the words you have written. But then again, I'm against excessive regulation for that very reason--people who are willing to do evil, will attain the means in which to commit that evil, using illegal methods. So who gets screwed by excessive regulation? The poor, innocent, law-abiding citizen who doesn't even have a decent six-shooter to hold off them baddies. |
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Jayex said: MrAnimeFan said: I am for minor background checking because it helps stop the bad guys somewhat but in the end they will always have a gun. as for a government needing to know what I own or have, they dont. gun registration is the first step to gun confiscation and history has proven that. That's true. I haven't quite put as much consideration into all that as you have. I'll think about the words you have written. But then again, I'm against excessive regulation for that very reason--people who are willing to do evil, will attain the means in which to commit that evil, using illegal methods. So who gets screwed by excessive regulation? The poor, innocent, law-abiding citizen who doesn't even have a decent six-shooter to hold off them baddies. there you go thats the rightful thinking i like to here. as for guns i own a lot man. Aks M4s, Belt Feds, Full autos. i really like my AKMs and i like my 338 Lapua R-700. just a few to mention |
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Jayex said: I said cool not efficient. There is a difference.mattbenz99 said: Ok can we all just agree that the musket is the coolest gun ever? I mean you shoot it and it is like an explosion with the noise and smoke cloud it creates. Yes! Known for its superb and ultimate accuracy! Oh my goodness! The reality is a cheap hunting rifle like a Winchester Wildcat shoots straighter than that thing. Unless you're a beast 18th century sniper. |
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MrAnimeFan said: in many states there are no laws requiring background checks for second hand guns sales or any regulation on them at all. That is where most of the guns used by criminals come from. I mean if you live in America all you need to do is drive a few hours and you can get a gun no questions askedJayex said: I think that all gun owners should undergo a basic shooter's training in order to receive a permit to own a gun of any sort. Furthermore, all fees of this training would go towards federal trainers (I'm talking about hiring Vets). During this trial period, besides the background checks all gun owners are subject to, the trainers are to observe closely the mental state of each gun owner that they train. Therefore the trainers themselves need to be checked on an advisably semi-annual basis. They must also go through training themselves where they are taught to notice signs of unhealthy mental states. This way, people can learn to use guns, and the government can moderate who uses and controls guns. The rest of the logistics can be worked out. I own a Russian, Izhmash-made Saiga rifle, CA Legal version, never fully modified it to look like an AK but a Saiga instead. I also own a Saiga shotgun, TOZ-78 (Also known as Winchester Wildcat) and a Tokarev-33 Pistol. Each gun registered, licensed, and legal. My uncle has served in the military and he has taught me to use the weapons. Personally I am for the usage of weapons--anyone remember the case of the woman with a baby and a shotgun, when a thief entered her house? If she hadn't that shotgun, and if she hadn't fired the gun, she might've lost her life, her baby, or have been raped, or any number of possible negative consequences. http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder911-operators-shoot/story?id=15285605 I am for minor background checking because it helps stop the bad guys somewhat but in the end they will always have a gun. as for a government needing to know what I own or have, they dont. gun registration is the first step to gun confiscation and history has proven that. |
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mattbenz99 said: MrAnimeFan said: in many states there are no laws requiring background checks for second hand guns sales or any regulation on them at all. That is where most of the guns used by criminals come from. I mean if you live in America all you need to do is drive a few hours and you can get a gun no questions askedI am for minor background checking because it helps stop the bad guys somewhat but in the end they will always have a gun. as for a government needing to know what I own or have, they dont. gun registration is the first step to gun confiscation and history has proven that. well the background checks are the personal responsibility of the seller, well duh my last AK buy was from some random guy i met online and i bought it in the parking lot of a Walmart. i live in Arizona and that is legal... stop trying to find excuses to blame the law abiding citizens, thinking of the worst out come doesnt fly.... |
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MrAnimeFan said: a gun is deadly weapon and should be treated as such. It should not be that easy for some random person to buy a bunch of guns from a gun store then sell them at a mark up to gangs because when there is no background checks that is very well what might be happeningmattbenz99 said: in many states there are no laws requiring background checks for second hand guns sales or any regulation on them at all. That is where most of the guns used by criminals come from. I mean if you live in America all you need to do is drive a few hours and you can get a gun no questions asked well the background checks are the personal responsibility of the seller, well duh my last AK buy was from some random guy i met online and i bought it in the parking lot of a Walmart. i live in Arizona and that is legal... stop trying to find excuses to blame the law abiding citizens, thinking of the worst out come doesnt fly.... |
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mattbenz99 said: MrAnimeFan said: a gun is deadly weapon and should be treated as such. It should not be that easy for some random person to buy a bunch of guns from a gun store then sell them at a mark up to gangs because when there is no background checks that is very well what might be happeningwell the background checks are the personal responsibility of the seller, well duh my last AK buy was from some random guy i met online and i bought it in the parking lot of a Walmart. i live in Arizona and that is legal... stop trying to find excuses to blame the law abiding citizens, thinking of the worst out come doesnt fly.... a gun is a deadly weapon in the wrong hands just like any other tool, a car, a bat, a shovel, a knife and even a pen. the reason why people sell second hand outside of gun stores is because they get their rightful money worth out of it. say you buy a colt m4 rifle for 1400 dollars, you have it for a few months and only put about 100 rounds down it. its still worth a good 1000 but a gun store wont give you that price, they will give you 600 bucks for it and resell it for 1100 dollars. a man has a right to get his money worth out of anything. what makes you think they sell to gang members? a respectable gun owner would run a check and not sell to someone he finds out of the ordinary.. let me ask you something? i already know the answer but i feel the need to ask anyways. do you own any firearm? also it is not that easy to get a firearm. first you need the required money for the gun. you go into a store fill out a 2 page paperwork with your first middle and last name, your social number, date of birth, the address where you live and other optional items. they then call the FBI and they transfer that info to them which takes 10 minutes to run the check and they say YES for Clear and No for not clear. if they clear you then you hand the money and get your gun and you walk out and if they dont clear you then they throw you out and call the police....how is this easy? its a 40 minute process total.. |
MrAnimeFanJul 31, 2014 1:20 AM
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MrAnimeFan said: I'd like to second this. It isn't easy to get guns that you need. Why would gang members settle with low tech, Civilian crap when they can get fully automatic assault rifles for less (or in some cases less, I mean). My father fought in Afghanistan...back then he told me he went to a black market and said he could purchase an AK-47 for $6 or a Chicken. At any rate, it isn't difficult to acquire weapons illegally. Legally, yes. Illegally, no. After all, they're gangsters. Why would they abide by the laws? |
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MrAnimeFan said: bullshit if you can just sell your old gun to anyone why wouldn't a specific group of people take advantage of that and agree to sell it to criminals for a higher price. You are far too trusting. Also are you really so crazy as to actually believe a pen is more deadly than an ar15?mattbenz99 said: a gun is deadly weapon and should be treated as such. It should not be that easy for some random person to buy a bunch of guns from a gun store then sell them at a mark up to gangs because when there is no background checks that is very well what might be happening a gun is a deadly weapon in the wrong hands just like any other tool, a car, a bat, a shovel, a knife and even a pen. the reason why people sell second hand outside of gun stores is because they get their rightful money worth out of it. say you buy a colt m4 rifle for 1400 dollars, you have it for a few months and only put about 100 rounds down it. its still worth a good 1000 but a gun store wont give you that price, they will give you 600 bucks for it and resell it for 1100 dollars. a man has a right to get his money worth out of anything. what makes you think they sell to gang members? a respectable gun owner would run a check and not sell to someone he finds out of the ordinary.. let me ask you something? i already know the answer but i feel the need to ask anyways. do you own any firearm? also it is not that easy to get a firearm. first you need the required money for the gun. you go into a store fill out a 2 page paperwork with your first middle and last name, your social number, date of birth, the address where you live and other optional items. they then call the FBI and they transfer that info to them which takes 10 minutes to run the check and they say YES for Clear and No for not clear. if they clear you then you hand the money and get your gun and you walk out and if they dont clear you then they throw you out and call the police....how is this easy? its a 40 minute process total.. |
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cabacc2 said: how can you possibly come to that conclusion The founding father were scared of government oppression, and sought to give the citizens the right and power to prevent government oppression, right? So if you went and told them that one day the government would have tanks, warplanes, ICBMs, and nukes... I think it's rather unlikely that they would somehow stop seeing the need for citizens to protect themselves from government oppression. I think it's a little more likely that they would have created an even stronger 2nd Amendment, and would have been overjoyed to allow the private citizen to own and carry assault rifles. So many people push this nonsensical platitude of "The founding fathers never would have thought of assault rifles!" argument that they fail to realize that it actually supports the pro-gun side, and hurts the pro-gun control argument. |
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mattbenz99 said: MrAnimeFan said: bullshit if you can just sell your old gun to anyone why wouldn't a specific group of people take advantage of that and agree to sell it to criminals for a higher price. You are far too trusting. Also are you really so crazy as to actually believe a pen is more deadly than an ar15?a gun is a deadly weapon in the wrong hands just like any other tool, a car, a bat, a shovel, a knife and even a pen. the reason why people sell second hand outside of gun stores is because they get their rightful money worth out of it. say you buy a colt m4 rifle for 1400 dollars, you have it for a few months and only put about 100 rounds down it. its still worth a good 1000 but a gun store wont give you that price, they will give you 600 bucks for it and resell it for 1100 dollars. a man has a right to get his money worth out of anything. what makes you think they sell to gang members? a respectable gun owner would run a check and not sell to someone he finds out of the ordinary.. let me ask you something? i already know the answer but i feel the need to ask anyways. do you own any firearm? also it is not that easy to get a firearm. first you need the required money for the gun. you go into a store fill out a 2 page paperwork with your first middle and last name, your social number, date of birth, the address where you live and other optional items. they then call the FBI and they transfer that info to them which takes 10 minutes to run the check and they say YES for Clear and No for not clear. if they clear you then you hand the money and get your gun and you walk out and if they dont clear you then they throw you out and call the police....how is this easy? its a 40 minute process total.. i am not too trusting at all, i always background check the people i sell too. for instance i wouldn't sell you a gun because you dont really know a thing about them. as for pen you would be surprised what ive been trained to do with a pen. like i said before in the right hands anything can pretty much be a deadly weapon. |
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