Link_of_Hyrule said: What if I like watching my anime dubbed and want to see certain show in dubbed form but it turns out to be really shitty?There is no reason that anybody should hate a dub, regardless of how bad it is. If you aren't interested in watching it, then nobody is forcing you to; why should you care? That's why I hate Sentai. I'm still praying for the day where Funimation or Bang Zoom or anyone gets their hands on Mawaru Penguindrum and gives it the dub it deserves |
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| I try to keep an open mind about dubs. There's a lot of great dubs out there, but there are many people who believe that anime should be watched in its original language, no matter what. I don't think that's fair, though I do understand why some people feel that way. Some problems with dubs include such things as the stigma from years ago where shows like Pokemon or Cardcaptor Sakura were dubbed and put on TV without any regard for the original script and the voice actors not being very good actors. While a lot of that has changed, the feeling remains. Some complaints now include that a lot of the same voice actors appear in different shows. Directors are used to working with the actors they know, and the voice actors are used to acting with the limited range of lip flaps they get to use with each line, which can be a challenge for newbies. It's a strange thing to debate for such a niche medium, but understandable when you look at anime's history in other countries and other people's experiences with both subs and dubs. All that being said, I don't hate dubs as a whole. There are plenty of people who enjoy them and good for them. I prefer subs, because I'm weird and actually enjoy reading subtitles, plus I like listening to Japanese. Listening to another language just sounds cool to me. I'll give a dub a try if I hear good things, or if I'm looking forward to a show that is getting a dub. There are some clearly bad dubs out there for certain, but to judge them all collectively seems silly to me. |
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| While I do find some dubbed anime bad, I don't hate on them. TMoHS really surprised me with the amazing performances of the English VAs and got me switching to dubbed anime for a while. But yeah, great dubs are hard to find unfortunately although there are a handful of them. |
| Don't hate dubs at all. But I don't watch them a lot because I always have a favourite VA or two in the Japanese cast. I'm actually gonna watched the dubbed version of some of my completed shows in the future. |
Red_Keys said: JizzyHitler said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKwaPSkjXp0SolBlade said: I am indefinetly going to watch this series in dubpLaguE_ said: SolBlade said: Red_Keys said: But I like some dubs. HOTD's dub was amazing. Baccano's dub is amazing. I want to watch Black Lagoon dubbed. You can't go wrong with the Black Lagoon dub. It fits perfectly for that anime due to being more Western-style action than Japanese. http://i.imgur.com/yffey0r.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXj4lxMYaCA I hate dubs, but I might have to make an exception. |
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Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
| I'll watch a dub regardless of how good or bad it may be |
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| If there's a dub for a series all usually watch it unless it unbearably bad. Normally when I see a dub for an anime I watch in sub I don't like it but I get the feeling I'd be fine with it if I hadn't gotten used to the Japanese voices. |
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| Just the bad ones. I usually watch the sub as i prefer it, but there is the occasion where I'll watch an entire series in dub. It all depends on the availability as well as the quality of the voice acting. |
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| I don't hate them collectively, nor do I only hate ones that are ''objectively bad"(yeah I know). Steins;Gate is a good dub when it comes down to it, I just dislike it for specific reasons. |
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| It's not that I "hate" dubs. I just dislike them and simply don't watch them. |
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| I do not hate dubs. Though I really prefer subs cause some of the voices are really done well. Dubs are enjoyable if the voices are done properly. And...I do like the Angel Beats ! Dub. Though I've watched both sub and dub of the anime, I don't think the dub is bad. |
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xDrayken said: I hate dubs. Only a few anime have proper dubs in English or French. The only ones I've watched in French dub were Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi, Ookami kodomo no Ame to Yuki, and Great Teacher Onizuka. 'Only a few' ? You're being generous. :/ Movies usually have better dubs so good voice actors for Ookami Kodomo or Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi is no surprise, I guess. Watched GTO a looong time ago so I don't remember how good the dub is; definitely gotta check that out. For my part, the anime with great french dubs I remember watching were Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop. |
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WhisperBit said: It's not that I "hate" dubs. I just dislike them and simply don't watch them. |
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| Dubs don't go well with Japanese anime. When I watched Pokemon for the first time in English dub (and have not watch any other anime in Japanese dub), I find that it is quite okay and have watched for over 400 episodes. But once I started watching anime in Japanese dub, I find that English dub are pretty dumb (no offense) when compared to the Japanese one. Maybe because I find the Japanese language much more pleasing to the ears than English ones. |
| I rarely hate dubs, so whenever I do hate one, there isn't much room for debate. |
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| Only the bad ones. I didn't watch many dubbed anime though. I hate bad subs as well (Check out DB series sub) |
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| I would have to watch dubs in order to hate on them. And if I hated on them, why would I watch them? |
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kuuderes_shadow said: So you'd be judging something before you even watch it?I would have to watch dubs in order to hate on them. And if I hated on them, why would I watch them? |
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| I don't hate dubbed animes, but I still don't watch them. Although 1st Anime I watched was Dubbed, when I found the subs, I never watched Anime in dub again. I tried, but it didn't feel right. I think anime lacks something when it is in dubs. But that's just my opinion.. |
gamer2710 said: kuuderes_shadow said: So you'd be judging something before you even watch it?I would have to watch dubs in order to hate on them. And if I hated on them, why would I watch them? You can judge/decide on a principle like always preferring original versions by default no matter the medium or language. |
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| I like English dubs, however a couple I've seen have been pretty bad. That can be a good thing but is usually a bad thing (a few dubs are so bad they are funny). Anyways, I'm trying to find a way to watch anime with French dubs and English subtitles. StardustPhantom said: Bonus Question: OK, as you'll quickly realize with me: I AM OBSESSED WITH ANGEL BEATS! Dunno why, it's a big obsession with me. Why do people hate the dub so much? Justt curious, maybe I just never watched most of the episodes in Japanese? I only watched the 1st 3 in Japanese. Angel Beats is very err...Japanese-y. Its the kind of show that seems to have a lot of Japanese err...I can't think of the word. But it feels very Japanese and like a show that would be hard to dub. Plus Sentai Filmworks dubbed it, and they don't have a good track record with English dubs. |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: But that's not hating something then, that's just preferring one thing over another.gamer2710 said: kuuderes_shadow said: So you'd be judging something before you even watch it?I would have to watch dubs in order to hate on them. And if I hated on them, why would I watch them? You can judge/decide on a principle like always preferring original versions by default no matter the medium or language. |
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gamer2710 said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: But that's not hating something then, that's just preferring one thing over another.gamer2710 said: kuuderes_shadow said: So you'd be judging something before you even watch it?I would have to watch dubs in order to hate on them. And if I hated on them, why would I watch them? You can judge/decide on a principle like always preferring original versions by default no matter the medium or language. Tell that to the people that call me and others dub-haters because of that simple preference :( |
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| I only watch dubs if I originally watched the anime with dubs, or if I can't find the subbed version. But I don't hate them collectively, just the bad ones. Some dubs are pretty damn fine though, s-CRY-ed dubbed is more entertaining than the japanese version, and SoulTaker dubs make the main character actually badass instead of whimpy. |
| The ones I've seen I consider bad. There've been couple dubbed series where one or two characters have appealing voices, but not once I've been satisfied with the whole English voicing cast in any anime. |
| I prefer watching dubs since I rather understand what they are saying than reading but if there are anime that I really want to watch and there are no dubs/can't wait for the dub then I watch it subbed.Basically I like both. |
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Lanik said: I like English dubs, but I refuse to watch the really bad ones, like Buso Renkin and Certain Magical Index. As far as mediocre dubs go, however, the only reason I would watch them is because they have at least one of my favorite voice actors. I used to watch English dubs indiscriminately, but now I'm rather picky about them. Index had a bad dub? I mean I know they completely miscast Kuroko's voice, but.... |
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Lanik said: are you fucking kidding meJust listen to what they did to him. are you truly honestly being really legit with me right now what the fuck just no why fucking funimation |
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Lanik said: Dark_Chaos said: Lanik said: I like English dubs, but I refuse to watch the really bad ones, like Buso Renkin and Certain Magical Index. As far as mediocre dubs go, however, the only reason I would watch them is because they have at least one of my favorite voice actors. I used to watch English dubs indiscriminately, but now I'm rather picky about them. Index had a bad dub? I mean I know they completely miscast Kuroko's voice, but.... Yes, and their biggest miscast was Accelerator. They gave him a very bland, weak and monotone voice. Just listen to what they did to him. Apparently the video is not available in my country, but he was fine when I watched the dub. If you mean the laugh, I seem to recall it wasn't all that great in the original either. |
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Lanik said: Honestly, why do people insist on defending his voice actor? Because they didn't think he wasn't all that bad perhaps? I mean you wouldn't defend something if you thought it was bad, and that goes for me too, so perhaps your opinion isn't exactly as popular as you thought it was. Just saying. |
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SeibaaHomu said: Link_of_Hyrule said: What if I like watching my anime dubbed and want to see certain show in dubbed form but it turns out to be really shitty?There is no reason that anybody should hate a dub, regardless of how bad it is. If you aren't interested in watching it, then nobody is forcing you to; why should you care? That's why I hate Sentai. I'm still praying for the day where Funimation or Bang Zoom or anyone gets their hands on Mawaru Penguindrum and gives it the dub it deserves That's different then; if you only watch dubs and an otherwise good anime gets an awful dub, you have good reason to hate it. |
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Korrvo said: Lanik said: are you fucking kidding meJust listen to what they did to him. are you truly honestly being really legit with me right now what the fuck just no why fucking funimation Honestly the Index dub wouldn't be so mediocre if it was directed better. From the 4 episodes I've seen all the voices fit but a lot of times the lines are delivered so...awkwardly? Here's hoping they do better with season 2 |
| I don't care for dubs, I can read quickly and the voices sound more natural in japanese tongue. Dubs have to sync the voices with the characters lip movements, which leads to some awkward and unnatural sounding conversations. |
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DerpHole said: They do this in Japanese too. It's unique to anime for some reason, with some very few exceptions. In all other animation I see the mouth flaps clearly animated to the original dialogue.Dubs have to sync the voices with the characters lip movements, which leads to some awkward and unnatural sounding conversations. |
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| i don't hate it..but i prefer subs than dubs.. and frankly, i prefer watching anything in their original language...doesn't matter if its French, Spanish or Arabic i prefer the original, eventhough Christian Bale or Johnny Depp are the ones doing the dubs.. SUBS FTW!!! |
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Indoctrination said: WhisperBit said: It's not that I "hate" dubs. I just dislike them and simply don't watch them. Why comment on the subject then? Why. not? Can't someone have a rational dislike for something instead of dumb generalizations? That I can at least respect more than someone who auto-hates every dub. |
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gamer2710 said: Yes but anime mouth movement durations are made for Japanese sentences, so that can still happen when they dub it to English. They probably at least have the script when they animate the mouths.DerpHole said: They do this in Japanese too. It's unique to anime for some reason, with some very few exceptions. In all other animation I see the mouth flaps clearly animated to the original dialogue.Dubs have to sync the voices with the characters lip movements, which leads to some awkward and unnatural sounding conversations. |
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gamer2710 said: Five words: low budgets and tight schedules. In most other animation, voice recording is done first, and the animation is tailored to fit the vocal performances. But with anime, the production schedule forces the voice and animation work to be done roughly in parallel. (According to some NA industry figures at conventions, the Japanese audience has been conditioned not to expect perfect flap/speech coordination.) Of course, the same thing carries over into foreign-language dubs and their efforts to create accurate, natural, and flap-fitting dialogue. Though I'd rather they ignored the flaps once in a while if they make the dialogue too unnatural.DerpHole said: They do this in Japanese too. It's unique to anime for some reason, with some very few exceptions. In all other animation I see the mouth flaps clearly animated to the original dialogue.Dubs have to sync the voices with the characters lip movements, which leads to some awkward and unnatural sounding conversations. The exceptions would be high-budget movies and OVAs that do the voices first and animation later. |
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