Oda says Gear 5 Luffy can’t beat Super Saiyan 1

Aug 14, 3:23 PM

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https://youtube.com/shorts/-vF5cNE0lTo?si=WbvubOvoiGg8G739

For years fans have been asking if Goku at Mastered Ultra Instinct could beat Gear 5 Luffy!! Now we have our answer!!

Aug 14, 3:52 PM

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Camoboi1 said:
https://youtube.com/shorts/-vF5cNE0lTo?si=WbvubOvoiGg8G739

For years fans have been asking if Goku at Mastered Ultra Instinct could beat Gear 5 Luffy!! Now we have our answer!!

Why do people even care about this?

Aug 14, 3:56 PM

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I mean fair enough. Toon force aside goku in ss1 has a high enough power level to destroy stars and possibly entire solar systems. The strongest one piece character (who ever you think that is) probably wouldn’t even beat kid goku in the tien saga.

Aug 14, 4:06 PM

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The video you sent itself says he never said it. I don't think Oda said that either, but he did say he can't win against Dragon ball in drawing battles.

Aug 14, 4:15 PM

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Bro that's Fake news 😂 how can you believed this!?

Aug 14, 5:08 PM

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all the offended comments are testament to your multi-versal humour my man, funny as fukk 😭😭

Aug 14, 6:22 PM

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fake news but it's fine either way, anyway.

Aug 14, 6:30 PM

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Planet busters started in dragonball since the saiyans were introduced. Moon busters started in dragonball. Luffy never reached those levels probably since it would wreck world building ideas.

Aug 14, 9:03 PM

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Planet busters started in dragonball since the saiyans were introduced. Moon busters started in dragonball. Luffy never reached those levels probably since it would wreck world building ideas.

rohan121 said:
Planet busters started in dragonball since the saiyans were introduced. Moon busters started in dragonball. Luffy never reached those levels probably since it would wreck world building ideas.

100% agree because you mostly care about the world and characters not the power levels like Dragon Ball where you watch mostly for fight scenes and story arcs and how strong each character is!!

Aug 14, 9:07 PM

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Camoboi1 said:
https://youtube.com/shorts/-vF5cNE0lTo?si=WbvubOvoiGg8G739

For years fans have been asking if Goku at Mastered Ultra Instinct could beat Gear 5 Luffy!! Now we have our answer!!

Why do people even care about this?

@GTRaijin I don't know man One Piece fans and Dragon Ball fans have been having wars since One Piece first aired and it's only gotten worse due to Toei not being able to even animate anything Dragon Ball related and mostly work on One Piece when fans of both can't understand the legal issues with Dragon Ball that's been going on since 2022!!

Aug 14, 10:01 PM

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who tf even cares just enjoy both masterpiece

Aug 14, 10:15 PM

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who tf even cares just enjoy both masterpiece

GHOST_OF_UCHIHA_ said:
who tf even cares just enjoy both masterpiece

I will agree people should enjoy the shows and stop complaining about theses shows.

Aug 15, 12:47 AM

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lmao who cares its dragonball the show that has 0 depth and is just about fights of course the characters are stronger than the ones in one piece

Aug 15, 1:33 AM

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... and Toriyama would have said Goku can't beat Luffy ...

*hurr durr*

No, this isn't my signature.

Aug 16, 12:45 AM

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Oda has never actually said this. That post was created by DBZ Exclusives, and they're well known for posting misinformation and ragebait.

However, the statement is still correct. If they had just removed Odas name from it, it would have been fine.

Aug 16, 6:30 AM

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lol that was clear to most of us. Freeza on his 1st form used to destroy planets with a single finger. The scale is too big for Luffy to reach

Aug 16, 6:44 AM

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Honestly that's fine.
As a fan of both series I'd say I appreciate that comment.
It's so hard to get invested when the stakes get otherworldly and when it's not as grounded anymore.

This is why Dragon Ball Super wasn't as entertaining for me as Dragon Ball Z was, Z at least felt like it gradually went where it was supposed to as where Super suddenly brought in so many different ideas and problems they had to face.
Not to mention the bubbly clean look in it's art style and animation, just couldn't get into it as much compared to Z's art style.

I'd be pissed if One Piece suddenly was about planet destroyers, alternate universes and the likes.

Aug 16, 1:16 PM

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strongest one piece character can’t beat kid gohan from before namek

Aug 18, 11:29 AM

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this is the equivalent of seeing an Instagram post with a quote and no source yet still taking it as fact. I don't even care about the powerscaling element, but people make up oda quotes all the time

Aug 19, 4:23 AM

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no shit it's super Sayian, like don't get me wrong Luffy's my favorite character One Piece is my favorite Anime gear 5 Luffy is my favorite version, and I like One Piece more than DBZ, but we're talking literally gods here. Sayians are probably the strongest race in fiction. Let's be logical here

Aug 19, 10:02 PM

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@CursedRage You got a good point, I've always thought it was stupid of how people think certain characters can beat Dragon Ball characters like just think if they are gods themselves. Now Goku vs Ryuk now that's a real fight!! If Luffy can't beat Master Roshi then why would he be able to beat Goku.

Aug 20, 7:20 PM

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