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Modernoir said: @Marinate1016 There's something incredibly funny about opening up this episode discussion and one of the first big posts being someone absolutely gushing about a child getting murdered. Good. I certainly was smiling and laughing as I typed it and it made my day. |
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| Man this episode got me really conflicted, on one hand marina is just awful and cruel but on the other hand... she is in like what 3rd or 4th grade? her horrible behavior is a product of her neglectful and abusive mother who takes all her frustrations on her. don't get me wrong she 100% deserved to have something happen to her after inflicting all of that pain and suffering on another human being but... death? idk man seems like a bit too much. im curious to see where the story could go next with takopi's time machine being broken and all. |
enthusiastpersonJul 5, 6:16 AM
| Characters are 1D, story is predictable and forced, no attempt at any sort of interesting resolution to problems, the animation is the only thing carrying this show. This show is garbage. |
| There's alot in this episode that can be said, but one thing is for sure, its not maria-chan's fault. That's VERY obvious. But yet the tale must go on without reconciliation, and the antagonistic character is left out to dry. A villain? Sure, if that character had INSANE plot against everyone in the show, but no, its just the one. This episode might be a cliff hanger that has tugged my AOT strings. 9.5/10 - episode 5/5 - sound track 5/5 - ending track 5ml/10ml - tears cried P.S. I hate how obliviously optimistic takopi is. It sort of blind sided me in episode one where I left myself believe the pink creature's delusions for the sake of suspense of belief. Anyway, cant wait to cry more next week! |
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Modernoir said: @Marinate1016 You're talking about a child who's lashing out the way she is because her family has been broken apart by Shizuka's mother being an escort who Marina's father is cheating on her mother with. You're talking about a child who has faced constant abuse and lashing out from their mother as the sole person in the house for her to take her despair out on because of their failing marriage. She's a CHILD. Of course her actions are inexcusably cruel but instead of looking at the greater picture and rightfully blaming the adults for the way she is, you're cheering that a CHILD was killed. When the story goes out of it's way to show how abuse is a cycle and that Marina is the way she is because in her eyes Shizuka and her family are the reason why her household is broken and why she gets abused daily it's INCREDIBLY wild that you're kicking your feet gleefully over her death as if she were a generic fist of the north star mook. It might do you good to take a step back in recognising despite this being a cartoon it's covering a very real topic that's happening to more children today than it ever should. Stay classy MAL, lmao. At the very least this show's doing a good job at bringing to the surface signs in people that mark they really shouldn't have or be around kids. Don’t care didn’t ask. She’s dead and we smoking on her pack 😂 😂 coming for her bumass mama next. Celebrating all week |
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Mainnus said: Ahh...urmm...hmm... happy ending? Magic truly exists! malevolent, insidious, and corrupted magic. The first sin committed, the future turns bleak...  this is the type of anime where you see in the opening credits that they are running towards the horizon and all happy duppy and in the first scene "I killed my family" |
| people here don't even know how the world and human nature works... prime example of dehumanization first of all both deserves better life . it's not just Marina's fault...she's also going through hardship... watching your family falls apart for a hoe in front of your eyes is not easy and the fact is they are in 4th grade means probably 9 years old ..she can't comprehend the reality...she blames shizuka for this ..it's not ok but it's also doesn't mean marina deserves death...now think what Marina's mother will go though...your husband is hoeing around and your child ,only support she had... what takopi did is not ok ...he will surely pay for this when he understands what he did ..all the happy gadets is using for bad things .... |
| Takopi could have done this on the first day, he wanted so much for this camera to work, he could have turned into a random killer and killed this girl on the first day, how happy I would have been to sleep knowing this |
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Bennet3214 said: @Cestlavie_ It's purely a speculation, but I think that's how the mangaka and the staff wanted the audience to react. It was the amount of contrast with what happened and in what tone that was represented. Takopi literally just bludgeoned a freaking child to death, resulting in a pool of blood and the corpse is now staring into oblivion. And what happens after that? A happy enthusiastic cheerful music starts playing, the color palette brightens, and the main character starts jumping and squealing with joy. The contrast between the gravity of the situation and how "happily" it is represented is just too much, that I think it will squeeze out laughter from almost anyone. I guess that's one way to look at it, but I'm not really sure they wanted the audience to laugh at the end, more like shocked, I'm not sure |
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@Marinate1016
There's something incredibly funny about opening up this episode discussion and one of the first big posts being someone absolutely gushing about a child getting murdered.
There's something incredibly funny about opening up this episode discussion and one of the first big posts being someone absolutely gushing about a child getting murdered.
| @Modernoir all too common these days |
| Wow wow wow. What a gem this anime has become. The ending of this episode just had me speechless! |
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| Thank god that bitch is dead. She was a piece of shit. Ngl that shit made me so happy. Justice served Also fuck the mom too. She’s just as evil as the rest of them. How could she blame Shizuka when Marina went out of her way to get bitten? Why didn’t anyone ask Shizuka her side of the story? Chappy was only trying to defend Shizuka, he was a good boy until the very end. Rip Kinda crazy that Takopi just casually killed someone though. Does that make him a criminal? |
As a wise man once said, "No one hates anime more than anime fans"  |
| Thank goodness she got what she had coming to her. But wow, there's some unreasonable people in this forum. It is normal and healthy to want to see evil-doers punished for their crimes and receive justice, as finally happened in this episode. It's called having a normal sense of justice (even if the justice was achieved sloppily and un-ideally). Her death wasn't even particularly painful or drawn out, so she got off easy. Marina chose to do the most heinous things I've ever seen in an anime and earned all the bad karma she ended up receiving back. Stop defending her by saying she's a child. She was old enough to know how evil her actions were (I knew better when I was 9) and, if caught by the police, she probably should've been tried as an adult. She wasn't an ordinary innocent girl turned evil by abuse. She shows signs of being a literal psychopath one step away from committing murder herself. And speaking of that, please stop using the word "murder" for what happened to Marina. Some of you don't know what the word means. Murder requires intent (Takopii didn't intend it at all as it was an accident) and also a lack of justification (Takopii's actions are easily considered self-defense and therefore justified to protect Shizuka against death/serious injury). Call it homicide or manslaughter I guess, but it objectively wasn't a murder. |
| Another breathtaking, depression, dark and sadness stories, it should've done that before. |
| Well I didn't see that coming. I know Marina is terribly cruel but at same time I get she is young (though not so young she cant be held accountable) and acting out because how her home life is but I do feel sorry for her getting outright killed. It's the other classmates who go along with her bullying I think are crueler if they dont have their own reasons. I think Shizuka is in a bit of a delusional state of shock. While in one way she does feel relief she's trying not to sink in what occurred and how people will be looking for Marina. Though I did laugh at how happy she was over it while also feeling sad that she was so tormented it made her feel that happy. |
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Willhelm23 said: I’m sorry but so many of the comments are soo messed up, what the actual heck. I know what Marina did was wrong, but celebrating her death is so messed up, it’s actually psychotic to wish and celebrate that on a child dying. Instead of blaming Marina have you even thought about the adults in this situation? That’s who you should be blaming, the teacher for not intervening on the bullying, shizuka’s mom for never being there for her, and literally destroying the marriage in Marinas family, if shizukas mom actually cared about her she would stop that business. Marinas mom isn’t even really there for her, she’s just a total mess at the moment, which I don’t really blame her for, the situation she’s in is horrible. Marinas dad is an absolute horrible dead beat father, and he uses the excuse of providing for his family to cheat on his wife, how scummy is that, and Shizuka’s father is dead beat as well. All that being said, blaming Marina and hoping she dies is completely messed up, I don’t like her either, but I would never wish for a child to die?!? it’s the adults that are at blame for her behavior, not the child. There isn't good academic evidence teachers intervening does enough good, it can actually make things worse sometimes. Basically the bully gets mad at being told off. Only has any effect on one side if it is something like on legal level but Japan the age of criminal accountability isnt until 14 years old. But even then criminal systems dont fix people's behavior. Also cant really just talk to a bully and fix things since like portrayed here many cases are result of home life. So it is quite a bit to resolve such things. look at the whole picture. Everyone here is placed in these circumstances. Shizuka's mom while she is a bit distant acting, maybe cant find any other work. Also Shizuka's mom is not responsible for Marina's dad being stressed from work and in an unhappy marriage and seeking a sense of affection elsewhere with her, she may not even knew he was married and because it is how she makes money she can't turn him down anyway when he is her main client. Though he is spending too much time away from his daughter. Supposedly oddly enough lot of Japanese women (or at least in Tokyo) are fine with their guy seeing an escort if they dont have feelings for them so it seems to me implied he has feelings for her. So the mother isn't so much upset he is cheating but that he's falling out of love with her. Shizuka's dad lives further away (though how far idk) and likely only at most has visitation rights since Japan didnt allow joint custody in divorce until mid 2024. Though yeah he probably should be seeing her at least once a week or two since I doubt he is so far he cant do that much. Marina's mom while she also has her reasons would be the worst one, since Marina has no connection to any of this but presumably her mom takes it out on her and physically at that as it seems implied from Marina wanting her dad so much and how she seems to act around her mom and her bruised cheek. |
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| glad that blonde kid deserved for what she is do !! |
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