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Apr 10, 4:39 PM

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Politics is a waste of time. The elites are pretending the masses have any choice. But you don't have any choice.
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Apr 10, 4:42 PM

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@AzafuseKingTora You should probably not use the words you clearly don't understand, because last time I checked it weren't republicans who tried to murder presidential candidate, tolerated political violence and tried to suppress free speech.
@Piromysl A registered Republican tried to assassinate Trump, Republicans stormed the capital, and Republicans are currently deporting legal residents for criticizing Israel. 0/3 lol
Apr 10, 4:48 PM

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@KittenCuddler Gay person in a Japanese anime? Peak fiction!

Gay black person in a Western cartoon? Woke garbage!
@LuxuriousHeart No gay black people in my TV shows!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(

Only white men and white women in bikinis allowed! This is because we should be putting people in shows based on merit rather than skin color, and if merit is the deciding factor then only white people show up on TV because white people are superior!*

Don't call me a white supremacist! I am not! >:( >:( >:(

* Exception is for villains. I am sick and tired of bad guys being played by white men! We need more villains who aren't white men! There should be some sort of diversity quota requiring most villains to not be white men! It's ridiculous!!! >:( >:( >:(
Apr 10, 4:53 PM

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@Piromysl
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gw58wv4e9o
This article has actual testimonies from people who knew him, one of his classmates said "he definitely was conservative" and a teacher said "The majority of the class were on the liberal side, but Tom, no matter what, always stood his grounds on the conservative side" - I'm literally quoting what people who knew him said. He also had an eye on Biden and other candidates. He would've shot anyone.
-"Everything that makes them upset is hate"
You know WHY it makes them upset? Spreading fear mongering, discrimination, prejudice? Stuff capable of ruining lifes and killing people? One's freedom ends were other people's freedom starts, quit acting like a third grade bully and playing the victim card when others call you out, because you're obviously not informed about why many things are hateful.
-Also, you're obviously brainwashed if you think the Trump administration isn't corrupt (and incompetent) to the bone. To put what I said before more bluntly, empathy and etiquette aren't censorship. Y'all just want to be Racist, Sexist, Homophobic, Transphobic, etc. without consequences. Trump is also ruining the economy, not just of the US, but the entire world. Don't cry at me when we get another great depression (or worse)
@AzafuseKingTora
- Literally nothing in this bullshit article hints that he might be "rightwinger" besides two hearsay. But there is a hard evidence, that he was a Biden supporter, because that's what his presence on GAB implies. GAB refused to purge this data, for obvious reason.
https://x.com/BasedTorba/status/1816180238918824255
And before you start coping, it's an account that FBI literally asked to be forwarded as a part of investigation.
- Nice projection. The radical left is actively promoting a pushing for terrorism and radical violence and some even call for genocide, while you are whining about having your fragile feelings hurt by mean words. Grow up.
- Don't pretend as leftist are capable of empathy, because we all know they are not. You guys only want to censor your opponents because you know perfectly well, that in open forum you whole ideology would collapse. Also, I find it very telling that severe TDS made leftoids be upset over boomers and rich people losing their money just like hate taxation.
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Apr 10, 4:57 PM

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@Piromysl A registered Republican tried to assassinate Trump, Republicans stormed the capital, and Republicans are currently deporting legal residents for criticizing Israel. 0/3 lol
@0207xander
A Biden supporter tried to assassinate Trump, bunch of morons have trespassed on capitol and something that literally didn't happened, because that one guy who got deported wasn't even legal and was openly voicing terrorist rhetoric.
Yup. 0/3 for you.
And I'm yet to hear an explanation, how in your leftist mind does it make sense that a supposed "republican" would try to shot a republican candidate four months before election. It is so obvious that you can't admit being on the wrong side history, that you make up those bullshit conspiracies.
Apr 10, 5:06 PM

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@LuxuriousHeart
I've seen examples of threats of imprisonment and murder. Since you mention race I have seen examples of Black Xitterites threatening the lives of Japanese artists for not drawing a character the way they wanted as a Black character that is particularly dark even when they are not canonically a Black character to begin with, I am not sure what their politics would be since views like that can go either way when it is someone like that there just is very little distinction between the left and right when they have authoritarian sentiments in regards to social things.
@traed And they still watch and support the anime and don't actively root for it to fail.
Apr 10, 5:07 PM

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@LuxuriousHeart Did "straight white guy" was ever employed just to mee the diversity quota?
@Piromysl No, they just get jobs regardless of if they're qualified or not.
Apr 10, 5:08 PM

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@ixaa Whether those actors are bad or not is totally subjective and you might be very much wrong, but what is not subjective is that DEI is literally designed to give people advantage over innate characteristics rather than merit, which is wrong on principle. And it not only applied to Hollywood, but also affirmative action amongst other things.
@Piromysl Throwing a bone to a side character to meet the diversity quota isn't that extreme...
Apr 10, 5:11 PM

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@AzafuseKingTora
- Literally nothing in this bullshit article hints that he might be "rightwinger" besides two hearsay. But there is a hard evidence, that he was a Biden supporter, because that's what his presence on GAB implies. GAB refused to purge this data, for obvious reason.
https://x.com/BasedTorba/status/1816180238918824255
And before you start coping, it's an account that FBI literally asked to be forwarded as a part of investigation.
- Nice projection. The radical left is actively promoting a pushing for terrorism and radical violence and some even call for genocide, while you are whining about having your fragile feelings hurt by mean words. Grow up.
- Don't pretend as leftist are capable of empathy, because we all know they are not. You guys only want to censor your opponents because you know perfectly well, that in open forum you whole ideology would collapse. Also, I find it very telling that severe TDS made leftoids be upset over boomers and rich people losing their money just like hate taxation.
@Piromysl All of this reeks of playing the victim card, exaggeration and projecting.
Apr 10, 5:35 PM

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@LuxuriousHeart No gay black people in my TV shows!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(

Only white men and white women in bikinis allowed! This is because we should be putting people in shows based on merit rather than skin color, and if merit is the deciding factor then only white people show up on TV because white people are superior!*

Don't call me a white supremacist! I am not! >:( >:( >:(

* Exception is for villains. I am sick and tired of bad guys being played by white men! We need more villains who aren't white men! There should be some sort of diversity quota requiring most villains to not be white men! It's ridiculous!!! >:( >:( >:(
@KittenCuddler Funny thing is... There are games that center white people and have fanservice, but they avoid those games. Nor do they watch these type of movies. "Ma" was a horror movie where a black woman was the villain. It centered mostly white teens. They didn't care for the movie. They even complained about Gladiator II, which mostly featured straight white masculine guys. Simple because Denzel Washington was in the movie. I seriously thought he had that Samuel L Jackson type of white approval. Apparently not...

I mean... Look at John Wick. Angry white guy slaughters people from around the world. The fourth installment didn't release too long ago...
Apr 10, 5:47 PM

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@Piromysl All of this reeks of playing the victim card, exaggeration and projecting.
@AzafuseKingTora I mean yeah, it's kinda funny how he victimizes the right, while ignoring the attempted assassin was a registered Republican, the fact he also gave money to Biden doesn't really undermine that claim lol. That is why you take your brain off partisan. These people don't really care about integrity, all they can do is excuse abuses on their own side while claiming victim.

For someone that whines about people "rambling" we have found a way to bring American politics into the weebs deny political writing in anime thread lol. Yeah that is about the character I expect.

If MAL allows for threads, like this to occasionally pop up, why not simply bring back CE?
Apr 10, 6:07 PM

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@AzafuseKingTora I mean yeah, it's kinda funny how he victimizes the right, while ignoring the attempted assassin was a registered Republican, the fact he also gave money to Biden doesn't really undermine that claim lol. That is why you take your brain off partisan. These people don't really care about integrity, all they can do is excuse abuses on their own side while claiming victim.

For someone that whines about people "rambling" we have found a way to bring American politics into the weebs deny political writing in anime thread lol. Yeah that is about the character I expect.

If MAL allows for threads, like this to occasionally pop up, why not simply bring back CE?
@BilboBaggins365 Honestly, I'd prefer it if mods just closed these type of threads ASAP.
Apr 10, 6:35 PM

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@0207xander
A Biden supporter tried to assassinate Trump, bunch of morons have trespassed on capitol and something that literally didn't happened, because that one guy who got deported wasn't even legal and was openly voicing terrorist rhetoric.
Yup. 0/3 for you.
And I'm yet to hear an explanation, how in your leftist mind does it make sense that a supposed "republican" would try to shot a republican candidate four months before election. It is so obvious that you can't admit being on the wrong side history, that you make up those bullshit conspiracies.
@Piromysl
No matter how badly you wish it were not true, Thomas Crooks was a registered Republican, making my statement factually correct. Even if he did not support Trump, he was a Republican, which is what I said: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/07/14/thomas-crooks-trump-rally-shooter/74397935007/. Also, to quote the tweet you sent: “We are unable to confirm that the account in question actually belonged to him.” 😂

Yes a bunch of moronic Republicans stormed the capitol building, and Trump pardoned them because they support him. Yet again, what I said was factually correct.

Whatever "guy" you're referencing isn't what I'm talking about. A bunch of federal workers in plain clothes and masked faces detained a Tufts student for "pro-Palestinian activity": https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/27/judge-explanation-tufts-student-rumeysa-ozturk-ice. Blatant attack on free-speech and first amendment rights of assembly and protest. Also, yes, the Constitution does apply to all legal residents.

I am not a mind-reader, I don't know the motivation behind what he did, but he was a registered Republican, just as I claimed. I gave you a fact. You said he supported Biden, which is a guess. Facts don’t care about your feelings. Regardless of how badly you wish it weren't true, 2+2 still equals 4, and I am 3/3
0207xanderApr 10, 8:37 PM
Apr 10, 6:55 PM

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All politics is controlled opposition. All these politicians are steering you in the wrong direction.
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Apr 10, 7:19 PM

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@DarkInsomnia57
It is more to do with their culture than it is to do with their race. There is similarly racially homogenous Asian countries with pretty violent or maliciously more oppressive politics. Japanese politics get real silly sometimes though.

@traed wait, money OUT of politics, I thought it was supposed to be the other way around? /thread right there.

Also, NHK is a GEM, F this guy with a rancid dong for this sh#^. We need our own NHK.

Culturally homogenous? Guess people moving out of the rural parts and creating ghost towns will do that. If you're comparing to China, well, or Indonesia, well, or SK, well...I dunno about that. There certainly are many crazy Asian countries though.
Apr 10, 7:35 PM

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@KittenCuddler Funny thing is... There are games that center white people and have fanservice, but they avoid those games. Nor do they watch these type of movies. "Ma" was a horror movie where a black woman was the villain. It centered mostly white teens. They didn't care for the movie. They even complained about Gladiator II, which mostly featured straight white masculine guys. Simple because Denzel Washington was in the movie. I seriously thought he had that Samuel L Jackson type of white approval. Apparently not...

I mean... Look at John Wick. Angry white guy slaughters people from around the world. The fourth installment didn't release too long ago...
LuxuriousHeart said:
I mean... Look at John Wick. Angry white guy slaughters people from around the world. The fourth installment didn't release too long ago...
......Keanu Reaves is biracial, not white.

They even complained about Gladiator II, which mostly featured straight white masculine guys. Simple because Denzel Washington was in the movie.
The casting for Caracalla was more offensive TBH. Surprised you can still get away with white washing, in this day and age.
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@traed And they still watch and support the anime and don't actively root for it to fail.
@LuxuriousHeart
The anti loli / shota types do want failure in many cases or at least characters to be erased but other times calling for criminalization. One on MAL harassed the mods for not banning everyone she got triggered by and made vague threats against people. You also occasionally do have homophobes who enjoy yuri or BL. so I don't even get your point it can apply to anyone the point you made. It's not really a left right thing...not that pseudo liberals are even leftists to begin with they are just a different breed of right wing ideology....not that left right dichotomy makes any sense to begin with, it doesn't. The discussion isn't really worth dragging on since it is so petty. You'd have a better argument if you were talking about legislation against anime coming more from so called conservatives than it comes from so called liberals, but in the end that too can come from either of them or fascists or ML it doesn't matter so long as someone holds a view of wanting to place control over others and being offended over media just existing. There does seem to be more talking coming from right wingers but it seems difficult to measure from just casual observations
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DarkInsomnia57 said:
@traed wait, money OUT of politics, I thought it was supposed to be the other way around? /thread right there.

Also, NHK is a GEM, F this guy with a rancid dong for this sh#^. We need our own NHK.

Culturally homogenous? Guess people moving out of the rural parts and creating ghost towns will do that. If you're comparing to China, well, or Indonesia, well, or SK, well...I dunno about that. There certainly are many crazy Asian countries though.

They do have a good point it was pretty ridiculous NHK would harass people, they have a similar thing in the UK and people also hate being taxed for owning a TV. I watch the Western broadcast of the NHK sometimes. The US has PBS. It is funded in part by the government grant but mainly donations from viewers and there is a few others also funded by donations. The US doesn't need exact same model it actually has one that works better. PBS in past also in some regions aired anime like Lain and NGE.

I meant Japan is a vertical collectivist culture with a history that pushed people into behaving a certain way and other Asian cultures have their own variations that didn't quite lead to same results because of different conditions in their countries.
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KitsuFrost said:
Legend Of The Galactic Heroes has all the politics you all want in anime.


LoGH is just carrying on a nearly 3000 year old debate of "democracy good or bad???" See Herodotus The Histories Book 3 Ch. 80


DesuMaiden said:
Most of this politics stuff shouldn't be taken seriously, as it is usually just controlled opposition. Don't fall for the CIA baits.


You know it's trouble when DesuMaiden is the voice of reason.


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I'd probably kill myself if fucking kyun kyun came on over the speaker while I was trying to fight.
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have you considered these 2 things:

  1. you aren't Japanese, so their political goals and messaging don't matter or make sense to you
  2. You aren't engaging with the media you consume on a deeper level to attempt to understand themes or motivations

?
For instance, both Eva 3.0 + 1.0 and Mazinger Z Infinity put a larger emphasis on peace and home-making, and feature pregnant women. That's political messaging, but it's not applicable to people outside Japan.
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I mean... Look at John Wick. Angry white guy slaughters people from around the world. The fourth installment didn't release too long ago...
......Keanu Reaves is biracial, not white.

They even complained about Gladiator II, which mostly featured straight white masculine guys. Simple because Denzel Washington was in the movie.
The casting for Caracalla was more offensive TBH. Surprised you can still get away with white washing, in this day and age.
@BilboBaggins365 I'm aware... However, let's also not be blind. There's a reason John Wick is appealing to everyone... Even if he's mixed, and you can see it somewhat, he's still white passing.
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By and large yeah you don't see as many controversial subject matters when it comes to the political spectrum with anime. They exist sure, but you certainly don't see them like you see in Western territories.
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I have no issue with anime not being Political. If they made K-on political that would ruin the show. Not everything needs an agenda. Some things are just badass dudes fighting each other, some things are teenage girls playing music in a band. Anime remaining so neutral allows a larger audience to enjoy it and to be honest makes the shows better themselves. It allows people of all political views to enjoy the show or anime in this case.
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Aside from the comments noting that you may be unaware of the politics implied or otherwise expressed by Japanese animated works..
Another explanation would be that perhaps your own politics align more closely with them..

Any of these would lead to the sentiments you've expressed..

The works would not seem as 'political'..
Less likely to be alienated, i.e. the anxiety that an 'agenda' is being pushed..
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okay, today at courtesy of chudpol, I will give you truthspeak.


in 1945 japancucks got annhilated by AMERICAGODS who nuked their country, ever since then they had obsession real life NTR situation.
Japan has been cucked for so long that it has developed escapist complex where they push their fantasy of superiority into anime or other strange fiction, rtherefore creation of lolicon, hentai, guro and other fetishes.
They also push their defeatist personality by overexaggerating character's beauty and of course main character syndrome. They wanted to win...
https://www.chudpol.ru/int/res/7441.html#7441 - you can read tl;dr in this schizopost where I made it all more clearly. japan has been politically defeated, they can only self-destruct and do no longer care about anything since the war.
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@traed wait, money OUT of politics, I thought it was supposed to be the other way around? /thread right there.

Also, NHK is a GEM, F this guy with a rancid dong for this sh#^. We need our own NHK.

Culturally homogenous? Guess people moving out of the rural parts and creating ghost towns will do that. If you're comparing to China, well, or Indonesia, well, or SK, well...I dunno about that. There certainly are many crazy Asian countries though.

They do have a good point it was pretty ridiculous NHK would harass people, they have a similar thing in the UK and people also hate being taxed for owning a TV. I watch the Western broadcast of the NHK sometimes. The US has PBS. It is funded in part by the government grant but mainly donations from viewers and there is a few others also funded by donations. The US doesn't need exact same model it actually has one that works better. PBS in past also in some regions aired anime like Lain and NGE.

I meant Japan is a vertical collectivist culture with a history that pushed people into behaving a certain way and other Asian cultures have their own variations that didn't quite lead to same results because of different conditions in their countries.
@traed Interesting, I wonder how variations would've occurred? Japan and South Korea are more similar to me, but China is pretty different, Vietnam to Indonesia.

The work culture for instance is crazy. More islands and peninsulas, more northerly. I guess when it's hotter you wouldn't want to be cooped up working 18 hours a day. China is collectivist but not at all culturally the same way. I guess I never thought about it before.

PBS is good and all but NHK has more relevant segments tied to daily living and industries and I find it more educational overall, I kind of prefer it 80% of the time. BBC though, you won't get any arguments from me, PBS stomps that thing. BBC is far too politically contrived.
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Life is political, you can't dissociate from reality.
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A Biden supporter tried to assassinate Trump, bunch of morons have trespassed on capitol and something that literally didn't happened, because that one guy who got deported wasn't even legal and was openly voicing terrorist rhetoric.
Yup. 0/3 for you.
And I'm yet to hear an explanation, how in your leftist mind does it make sense that a supposed "republican" would try to shot a republican candidate four months before election. It is so obvious that you can't admit being on the wrong side history, that you make up those bullshit conspiracies.
@Piromysl What the fuck is that obsession with "leftists" and "being on the right side of history"? I'm really curious. I stalk r/conservative sometimes, and I keep finding shit about "owning the libs" and dehumanizing talk about the other side. What the fuck happened to your society to turn it into that factionist shithole?

Also, regarding being on the "wrong side of history"... Your republican president is the one actively dismantling 80 years of Pax Americana, and talking about annexing territories, so... yeah. You better not slip, because history isn't kind to failed empires.
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Isn't interpretation kind of the point of art? Great art doesn't necessarily need to have one set interpretation and while an author may have a specific intention, that doesn't mean that the audience may be able to draw something more out of it than intended. As an artist myself, I like when people can derive more or different meanings from the same work as it allows for open-ended discussion on media. A great example of this would be how the Freeza arc from Dragon Ball is more often read into as an anti-colonialism piece whereas the original intention was to poke fun at the real estate investors of the late 80s by taking their negative traits to the extreme. However both interpretations kind of have some merit and equally add to the story and have been used by the general public and the studios alike to reinterpret the character.
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The thread seems to be slowly descending into madness... Is it just not possible to talk about politics without talking politics?

fyrflys said:
I'm curious what right wingers are saying about Frieren, since I don't recall it having any explicit right wing themes or messages or anything. Are they just saying its apolitical, or is it some how "right wing" or something?

I've had the misfortune of finding out more about this... Apparently, someone on Twitter called the character of Frieren fascist, because she advocates for complete annihilation of demons, calling them fundamentally evil and pointless to negotiate with.

I guess people are entitled to their interpretations and opinions, but in my eyes this is a dumb take on so many levels... And the fact is, it's a take that makes way too many people irrationally angry and loud.
@perseii

damn, thats actually kind of funny. I guess there have been so many anime that have portrayed demons as being just "misunderstood" and empathetic that when Frieren used a more traditional approach of Demons being evil, or as they put it, just animals/monsters that have adapted to deceive humans, people are getting offended lol.
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I ignore politics. It is not like politics actually matters. These political parties offer no real "solutions" for the world's problems.
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but tbh i do not find anything "particularly" political with anime or MAYBE IT IS ALWAYS NOT ON THE NOSE ulike Western Media where almost every media HAS AN AGENDA FOR EVERYTHING

You probably also believe in flat-earth and chemtrails if you actually think that...
Almost every western media has an "agenda"...for Pete's sake..., that's delusional.
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Alternative interpretations can lead to positive things and even inspire the original creator in some cases. The reason Freeza was the example I brought up was due to how the alternate interpretation of him being a symbol of colonialism and dictatorship was because it led to the creation of the Maximum the Hormone song "F" which was a political song about the oppression of Tibet by the CCP and cult terrorist attacks in Japan by comapring their actions to those of the Freeza force. This song actually ended up having an influence on Toriyama himself as it inspired him to create the story of the Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection 'F' movie by bringing back Freeza more powerful than ever and eventually having him return a few more times in Super between the anime and manga versions of the story. Great creators can get inspired by seeing how their passionate fans interpret their works and as an artist I think that is something really special that oftentimes gets overlooked when solely thinking about authorial intent.
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Most anime isn’t political. The few that are are done usually pretty well. Even anime handles gay characters 100 times better than American media does. Anime isn’t perfect though there are woke shows out there but they are pretty rare because Japan hasn’t become a fuckfest like the US has yet. Trump derangement syndrome isn’t as bad in Japan in the industry thankfully.
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@Piromysl What the fuck is that obsession with "leftists" and "being on the right side of history"? I'm really curious. I stalk r/conservative sometimes, and I keep finding shit about "owning the libs" and dehumanizing talk about the other side. What the fuck happened to your society to turn it into that factionist shithole?

Also, regarding being on the "wrong side of history"... Your republican president is the one actively dismantling 80 years of Pax Americana, and talking about annexing territories, so... yeah. You better not slip, because history isn't kind to failed empires.
@Deathko Reddit is a dump. I quit that website after being on it for a decade a couple months ago when multiple anime subreddits started the trump bashing circlejerk. Its been a thing there for a while but it’s gotten to the point where random anime that have nothing to do with anything political became a 2024 debate stage: In political subreddits you get banned for anything that goes against the left wing narrative there. So that’s why you get small echo chambers of conservatives who most at this point are probably bots because most people left that site with the censorship and insane hate. As far as the annexing goes America has annexed Alaska and Hawaii in the past it’s nothing new. Trumps giving these countries a offer to join America. They probably won’t but the funny thing is in the long term it would benefit them and Democrats more than it would conservatives. If Canada or Greenland became states Democrats electoral college advantage would shift back to them.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gw58wv4e9o
This article has actual testimonies from people who knew him, one of his classmates said "he definitely was conservative" and a teacher said "The majority of the class were on the liberal side, but Tom, no matter what, always stood his grounds on the conservative side" - I'm literally quoting what people who knew him said. He also had an eye on Biden and other candidates. He would've shot anyone.
-"Everything that makes them upset is hate"
You know WHY it makes them upset? Spreading fear mongering, discrimination, prejudice? Stuff capable of ruining lifes and killing people? One's freedom ends were other people's freedom starts, quit acting like a third grade bully and playing the victim card when others call you out, because you're obviously not informed about why many things are hateful.
-Also, you're obviously brainwashed if you think the Trump administration isn't corrupt (and incompetent) to the bone. To put what I said before more bluntly, empathy and etiquette aren't censorship. Y'all just want to be Racist, Sexist, Homophobic, Transphobic, etc. without consequences. Trump is also ruining the economy, not just of the US, but the entire world. Don't cry at me when we get another great depression (or worse)
@AzafuseKingTora The kid donated to Bidens campaign and even if he was conservative for some reason there is a wing of conservatives that hate Trump aka the Bush wing. The second guy who tried to kill Trump was a Democrat who was obsessed with the Ukraine. And the phobics shit got old. The constant name calling has a numbing effect at this point. It always gets me when people who call Trump a nazi have zero clue what actually nazis think of the guy. (They hate his guts and say hes a puppet for ZOG). If you really think a Great Depression is happening then the medias got you brainwashed. At worst it will be a recession most likely none as countries are going to have to reevaluate their trade deals. Trump talked about tariffs a million times on his campaign trial so you must live under a rock if this is new to you. China and other nations have tariffs on America and we’ve lost tons of jobs to overseas shipping. It’s crazy how the anti capitalist side who said fuck elon eat the rich cares about the stock market for billionaires now.
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@Piromysl What the fuck is that obsession with "leftists" and "being on the right side of history"? I'm really curious. I stalk r/conservative sometimes, and I keep finding shit about "owning the libs" and dehumanizing talk about the other side. What the fuck happened to your society to turn it into that factionist shithole?

Also, regarding being on the "wrong side of history"... Your republican president is the one actively dismantling 80 years of Pax Americana, and talking about annexing territories, so... yeah. You better not slip, because history isn't kind to failed empires.

You call anyone obsessed while admitting to stalking conservatives on Reddit?
You should also take a look what far left subreddits are saying, because openly wishing death on an actual elected officials is a commonplace there.
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Life is political, you can't dissociate from reality.

Good point, I couldn't come up with any valid counter-argument, so it seems to be true.
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A lot of anime are political, it's just that when you largely agree with what they're saying, you don't "register" it as political, or maybe it goes over your head because you're not following Japanese politics (as other users have said already)
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well i haven't watched a lot of anime but i remember gasaraki was pretty political and gundam as well. i guess it was like unite every government against single enemy and end all wars type of unrealistic stuff but gasaraki is pretty realistic.
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Life is political, you can't dissociate from reality.

It's like saying that everyone's life revolve entirely around politics, which is absurd on it's face.
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@Piromysl What the fuck is that obsession with "leftists" and "being on the right side of history"? I'm really curious. I stalk r/conservative sometimes, and I keep finding shit about "owning the libs" and dehumanizing talk about the other side. What the fuck happened to your society to turn it into that factionist shithole?

Also, regarding being on the "wrong side of history"... Your republican president is the one actively dismantling 80 years of Pax Americana, and talking about annexing territories, so... yeah. You better not slip, because history isn't kind to failed empires.

You call anyone obsessed while admitting to stalking conservatives on Reddit?
You should also take a look what far left subreddits are saying, because openly wishing death on an actual elected officials is a commonplace there.
@Piromysl Who gives a shit about "wishing" death on anyone, can we be serious for a min like grow up please. I don't understand why people on the right do nothing but talk shit then get so offended when people reasonably hate their shitty politicians. Like of course people wish them death buddy they are horrible people, and being told to kill yourself on the internet is pretty mild all things considered.

As for the topic, yes anime is often political, it is only ever a matter of degree. The people afraid of politics in media are usually the people with bad politics
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@Piromysl Who gives a shit about "wishing" death on anyone, can we be serious for a min like grow up please. I don't understand why people on the right do nothing but talk shit then get so offended when people reasonably hate their shitty politicians. Like of course people wish them death buddy they are horrible people, and being told to kill yourself on the internet is pretty mild all things considered.

As for the topic, yes anime is often political, it is only ever a matter of degree. The people afraid of politics in media are usually the people with bad politics

Funny how when a rightwinger makes slightly edgy, yet still the most obvious joke imaginable, it is always "dogwhistle that will inevitably lead to violence and they need to be censored" but when a leftoid openly calls for murder of anyone who disagre with them, it is always "just a joke, not a big deal" but they still attack people in public.
At least try to make your hypocrisy not so dam obvious.
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I used think about it too. I think some people are misunderstanding the OP's question. It's not refering to lack of politics but "wokeism" that Hollywood drove it's grave under. It it has to do with cultural difference and values. For eg, people make a huge deal about nudity and fan service in the west which is strange since lot of holltwood movies have actual sex scenes in them. I love that anime that is more "unhinged". Which is why westerners might be shocked by the fan service and content in anime.

Values are another thing. Hollywood has been more focused on pleasing communities for several years now rather than making a good movie in the first place. While the Japanese doesn't care about that shit or in the same way. Their values are different and how they portray them is different. They don't try force femenism down your throat.
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@Piromysl Who gives a shit about "wishing" death on anyone, can we be serious for a min like grow up please. I don't understand why people on the right do nothing but talk shit then get so offended when people reasonably hate their shitty politicians. Like of course people wish them death buddy they are horrible people, and being told to kill yourself on the internet is pretty mild all things considered.

As for the topic, yes anime is often political, it is only ever a matter of degree. The people afraid of politics in media are usually the people with bad politics

Funny how when a rightwinger makes slightly edgy, yet still the most obvious joke imaginable, it is always "dogwhistle that will inevitably lead to violence and they need to be censored" but when a leftoid openly calls for murder of anyone who disagre with them, it is always "just a joke, not a big deal" but they still attack people in public.
At least try to make your hypocrisy not so dam obvious.
@Piromysl Your comments are completely valueless and only show how you view this as some deranged team sport rather than people's actual lives. Most people don't fucking care about your jokes my man, they don't care, it doesn't matter, they think it's dumb but it barely matters.

Actual policy that upends people's lives is completely different, and is in no way comparable to some people being mean on twitter, like do you understand this, this is not complicated. A left winger wishing death on a politician, and someone like Rick Scott committing billions of dollars in insurance fraud are not close, they are not close, and there is no hypocrisy.

You are just so obsessed with this weird battle of words that is completely irrelevant to actual reality. Let people say what they want on both sides, that's completely fine dude, just don't be angry when people that are literally evil get death threats
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@Piromysl Your comments are completely valueless and only show how you view this as some deranged team sport rather than people's actual lives. Most people don't fucking care about your jokes my man, they don't care, it doesn't matter, they think it's dumb but it barely matters.

Actual policy that upends people's lives is completely different, and is in no way comparable to some people being mean on twitter, like do you understand this, this is not complicated. A left winger wishing death on a politician, and someone like Rick Scott committing billions of dollars in insurance fraud are not close, they are not close, and there is no hypocrisy.

You are just so obsessed with this weird battle of words that is completely irrelevant to actual reality. Let people say what they want on both sides, that's completely fine dude, just don't be angry when people that are literally evil get death threats

Damn, projection is hard with this one.
You may not like it when your hypocrisy is being pointed out, which is understandable, because that all your ideology is about, but bootlicking a neopbaby, communist grifter who doesn't even understand how the system works.
No, nobody gives a shit whether that Scott guy is a good person. We simply know that if someone would say something like that about socialist grifters like Bernie or AOC who used their positions to enrich themselves, you would suffer from severe conniption and would want those people to be jailed.
It's just a fact.
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No matter how badly you wish it were not true, Thomas Crooks was a registered Republican, making my statement factually correct. Even if he did not support Trump, he was a Republican, which is what I said: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/07/14/thomas-crooks-trump-rally-shooter/74397935007/. Also, to quote the tweet you sent: “We are unable to confirm that the account in question actually belonged to him.” 😂

Yes a bunch of moronic Republicans stormed the capitol building, and Trump pardoned them because they support him. Yet again, what I said was factually correct.

Whatever "guy" you're referencing isn't what I'm talking about. A bunch of federal workers in plain clothes and masked faces detained a Tufts student for "pro-Palestinian activity": https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/27/judge-explanation-tufts-student-rumeysa-ozturk-ice. Blatant attack on free-speech and first amendment rights of assembly and protest. Also, yes, the Constitution does apply to all legal residents.

I am not a mind-reader, I don't know the motivation behind what he did, but he was a registered Republican, just as I claimed. I gave you a fact. You said he supported Biden, which is a guess. Facts don’t care about your feelings. Regardless of how badly you wish it weren't true, 2+2 still equals 4, and I am 3/3

Your hyperfixiation on an irrelevant detail that he was "registered republican" while completely ignoring his history of pro-Biden statements, donating to leftist organisations and the fact that far left redditors were complaining that he missed, just proves that you simply are unable to that you are on the wrong side of history. Saying that "he was not one of us, but we praise what he tries to do" does not really help your cause.
Here's a newsflash for you.
It is completely common for a far leftist to vote in republican primates, if they want to vote AGAINST certain candidate. Leftists do not really support anyone, they only hate. Just like they don't support any leftist candidate, just hate Trump.
What I said are facts. He made pro Biden statements, donated to Act Ble, even appeared in BlackRock ads and most importantly, fellow leftists praises him.

People got held for three years with no process with trespassing charges. Damn, I wonder why would he pardon them for?

Ozturk was deported because of her open support to Hamas and wishing death on American people. Dunno what place your hail from, but in civilized society nobody has to comfort such person. And no, support of terlriram is not covered by 1A.
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@Piromysl Your comments are completely valueless and only show how you view this as some deranged team sport rather than people's actual lives. Most people don't fucking care about your jokes my man, they don't care, it doesn't matter, they think it's dumb but it barely matters.

Actual policy that upends people's lives is completely different, and is in no way comparable to some people being mean on twitter, like do you understand this, this is not complicated. A left winger wishing death on a politician, and someone like Rick Scott committing billions of dollars in insurance fraud are not close, they are not close, and there is no hypocrisy.

You are just so obsessed with this weird battle of words that is completely irrelevant to actual reality. Let people say what they want on both sides, that's completely fine dude, just don't be angry when people that are literally evil get death threats

Damn, projection is hard with this one.
You may not like it when your hypocrisy is being pointed out, which is understandable, because that all your ideology is about, but bootlicking a neopbaby, communist grifter who doesn't even understand how the system works.
No, nobody gives a shit whether that Scott guy is a good person. We simply know that if someone would say something like that about socialist grifters like Bernie or AOC who used their positions to enrich themselves, you would suffer from severe conniption and would want those people to be jailed.
It's just a fact.
@Piromysl Why do you claim I am projecting when you are clearly projecting right now. "Bernie or AOC will enrich themselves" lolollol the president is tanking the stock market right now and shorting it.

Again, I don't know why you are incapable of grasping the very simple concept that hurting someone's feelings online vs hurting large segments of the population with your backwards policy is not even close to the same thing. do you even know what hypocrisy means, you just use it as a buzzword.

Also, do you think no one sends death threats to bernie and aoc?? like what are you fucking talking about, every public figure will get some level of death threats regardless. You are really kind of outing yourself with the "No, nobody gives a shit whether that Scott guy is a good person." like you don't care if someone that commits billions in insurance fraud is sitting in the senate and running propaganda for evil policies?

do you care about anything besides your retarded 12 year old arguments online? do you have the ability to interact with reality?
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@Piromysl Why do you claim I am projecting when you are clearly projecting right now. "Bernie or AOC will enrich themselves" lolollol the president is tanking the stock market right now and shorting it.

Again, I don't know why you are incapable of grasping the very simple concept that hurting someone's feelings online vs hurting large segments of the population with your backwards policy is not even close to the same thing. do you even know what hypocrisy means, you just use it as a buzzword.

Also, do you think no one sends death threats to bernie and aoc?? like what are you fucking talking about, every public figure will get some level of death threats regardless. You are really kind of outing yourself with the "No, nobody gives a shit whether that Scott guy is a good person." like you don't care if someone that commits billions in insurance fraud is sitting in the senate and running propaganda for evil policies?

do you care about anything besides your retarded 12 year old arguments online? do you have the ability to interact with reality?

Damn, I wonder why Bernie went form "millionaires and billionaires" just to "billionaires" after becoming a millionaire. It's not like he could be a grifter or something...
And I fkin love it how you leftoids suddenly got upset over rich people losing money and started to hate taxation. TDS is truly somenting.

Again, you not understanding how the system works does not does not really justify saying this shit. When Hasan says and lies that he cares, while in the same breath wishing for genocide of entire nation, it's hard to take him seriously. People are perfectly aware that you don't in fact give a shit about a common man, just want medicaid to be regulated by government, because that's just one step towards achieving socialist dystipia. This is proven by the fact, that leftists have the lowest participation in charity and observable fact, that they lack empathy. And I'm pretty sure that saying that pretending to care for people, while openly wishing death on someone and trying to cope that it is justified is pretty hypocritical.

We all know how leftoids like to fabricate hate crimes against themselves just to be victims, which is why noone of the supposed death threats can be verified that they even happened.
You also do not care about Scott committing, any fraud, just pretend to care due to your aversion to rich people (except communist grifters, of course).

I don't really want a ledroid to tell me about reacting with reality, while your ideology is all about denying it and you even take someone like Hasan seriously.
We literally study history in order to not repeat the mistakes of the past and the left openly endorsing political violence and embracing the ideology of spite and envy is seriously something to be worried about.
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