Momo or Seiko?

@Sigmar-Unberogen It's infinitely weirder to make judgements about a persons real world morality based on literal fiction, but whatever you say.

I'm shocked that you actually voiced out loud that killing people in GTA factors in, so... at least you aren't a hypocrite, I guess.

@LostSpectre I'm honestly baffled why that is so weird to you. I mean what kind of people do you socialize with lol?
Like imagine a random guy sits next to you on a train and starts watching loli hentai (where they have children characters and even specify their age to be 10-12 for a reason) and the guy says, I wish it was me. Like that would be perfectly fine to you. You won't be weirded out or change seats. Like, you'll immediately apply "it's a fiction so he has to be normal guy" logic there and that's it?

Ok...

@Sigmar-Unberogen I would be weirded out for the same reason if it was any other type of porn, for the sheer brazenness to do that in public, accompanied by the complete lack of self awareness. If you're telling me that I should morally judge someone for how they think about fiction, which may have virtually nothing to do with how they think about the real world equivalent of said concepts, then no, that would be completely insane. You don't even seem to realize you're advocating for thought crime, essentially.

@Sigmar-Unberogen it's impossible to have any kind of rational discussion about this with these people. You state concerns about the implications of them expressing desire to fuck fictional minors or just sexualizing them in general, and they jerk themselves off with "it's just fiction bro" or "artistic freedom," as if they're somehow intellectually superior for not doing even the most basic critical analysis of what their media consumption could reflect about themselves. It's much easier to say everyone else is just a tourist or a normie rather than looking at the ugly parts of ourselves.

@LostSpectre pfft... My point was, why would you or anyone (since you assume it's majority) be weirded out by this guy since he's watching literal fucking cartoons as you said it. It's not real children, it's not real genitals, it's not real porn. Anything should be ok since "it's just fiction and drawings". And ffs let's pretend it's just you and that guy on the train and video is muted. That's not the point.
As for the judgement, yes, it will be wrong to assume the guy is a pedo simply by this 1 encounter, but AGAIN, as the guy you replied to initially said, it IS still insanely WEIRD to say you want to F underage fictional character and demand to be treated normally as if I know your background.

Momo is presented as a 15yo human girl. It's fiction but her gender and age have been specified for a reason. You can't just apply "it's a fiction" to bypass rules established by said fiction simply to satisfy your urges. I'm not advocating for thought crime BS here, but again strain your brain some more and realize why it makes sense for people like me to call people who'd want to F Momo weird.

@Sigmar-Unberogen it's impossible to have any kind of rational discussion about this with these people. You state concerns about the implications of them expressing desire to fuck fictional minors or just sexualizing them in general, and they jerk themselves off with "it's just fiction bro" or "artistic freedom," as if they're somehow intellectually superior for not doing even the most basic critical analysis of what their media consumption could reflect about themselves. It's much easier to say everyone else is just a tourist or a normie rather than looking at the ugly parts of ourselves.

@Haelent People like the guy I'm talking with honestly leave the impression like there's no way there are closet pedos or psychos out there who jerk themselves off to fiction with underage characters. In other words there CAN be plenty of weird people out there but apparently we should always assume that's not the case for some reason.

I'm not saying we should treat these people as actual criminals lol, and I'm not saying fiction encourages them to do crime in real life, but to have this much trouble to simply understand why all this is considered weird by many people is just crazy! Honestly makes you doubt if denial is a sign of confession. Whatever's the case it's a big waste of time indeed since we'll never know who we're talking with beyond the scree. I think I've wasted enough of my time already. I'll just go away now.

@Sigmar-Unberogen I already covered why that's an absurd example, but if your point is based only on what he does in private, I already gave you my answer to that. You're drawing assumptions based on fiction that simply don't apply to reality, other than letting your own imagination run wild. As for Momo, I can't fathom why you think her age matters when she's a fictional character, her age is entirely arbitrary. As I said in another comment, only physical appearance is relevant, and since she's fairly typical looking for a hs girl, she could easily pass for an adult with her physical development. So, tell me, is it suddenly not weird if I want to fuck (which I don't because I can't physically fuck a cartoon, but that's another story) the exact same looking char. if her imaginary age was now 18 instead of 15?

Bottom line, the idea that I should respect her age in a real way, when she's a literal cartoon, is simply incomprehensible to me.

I think you're way weirder for being so paranoid that you're this preoccupied with the imaginary age of a cartoon, that's insane.

@Sigmar-Unberogen For the record, I have zero trouble understanding why YOU think it's weird, I just know it's based in ignorance and paranoia. lol

@LostSpectre It's incomprehensible indeed. That much I've figured out already.

Just curious now.

When it comes to F-ing a fictional character though, what the F do you think a person imagines when saying "I'd F her".

Obviously you can never ever F a fictional character, so are these people stupid or delusional or something for even thinking about it?

In this case again Momo is 15 yo. People who want to F her want to F a literal drawing on a literal paper, or do they want to self insert themselves in this fictional world and imagine F-ing a 15yo child there? What do you think people usually imagine when saying YES? I think the latter is obviously the case and is weird. It doesn't make you a pedo, but makes you weird for imagining being in a fictional world where you F a 15yo. Not applying age in this scenario is hard cope when fiction specified it for you, and makes me wonder if denial is done due to guilt over immorality. Again, there's a reason why legal lolis exist. It's to make confused people to feel less guilty when self inserting into a fictional world where they want to f a child. To pretend that can't be the case ever is pure delusion.

@Sigmar-Unberogen Buddy, I can tell you first and foremost that YOU are the one most concerned with whether not the imaginary age of a character says they're a minor or an adult, because to the average MAL user it's absolutely meaningless, for the reasons I have stated repeatedly. Now, I have no idea why you would give a shit if someone self-inserts as an anime character if they want to imagine having sex with a cartoon character, and I don't know why you think that would make the imaginary age of said cartoon any more valid, because it absolutely doesn't. The fact we're having this conversation about a post-pubescent looking hs age girl and not a loli is blowing my mind right now, you are completely unhinged because you're terrified of the reality of real sexual predators and falsely interpreting that in how people view and process attraction towards cartoons.

Genuinely, can you not process that your entire argument is based on a fabrication? Cartoons aren't real, they can't have an age in the literal sense that humans do, they're assigned an age that may be based on their appearance or it could be completely arbitrary. You can't bitch about a loli looking like a child still even if she's canonically 30 or 3,000 years old, and then in the same breath, bitch about a canonical 15 year old, who clearly has the body of a sexually developed female, which I remind you, was brazenly shown to the audience in the very first episode. Holding these two beliefs at the same time is wildly contradictory. I also didn't forget that GTA comment, where you went fully unhinged by stating there's a correlation between killing an NPC and real psychopathy, but you'll probably just try to write that off as joke.

Lastly, you seem utterly and hopelessly clueless about the reality of sexual fantasy as a whole, and the science/psychology of sexual taboos.

@LostSpectre What are you smoking? This entire debate started because you protested against the guy's opinion stating having sexual fantasies over a 15yo character being weird. You went out your way to cry about why that's not the case as if you want validation and are desperate to be proven right by using the dumbest self-contradictory argument ever.

Spare me of your delusions. "CaRtOoNs aReNt ReAl" but you'd still F one if you could. If you self insert into a fictional world to F a fictional character, you imagine F-ing a living, breathing being, who in this case is a 15yo girl, not an inflatable doll or a piece of paper. Yes it's fiction ,but it's weird nonetheless.

Again, you can wank to anything you want but the whole argument was about this being a normal or a weird behaviour. In my eyes and the eyes of others it's weird. End of story. But nooo, you want to be accepted as normal by all so desperately you'd rather keep yapping more and more BS.

I'm done here. Seek professional help my guy.

Momo vs Seiko

Momo x Seiko

That aint gonna change the fact that your crushing over a lil girl my peculiar pal

You do you buddy. Use "it's just fiction bro" to justify your weirdness all you want. Just don't be baffled when your weirdness isn't accepted or treated as normal behavior by society.

If a cartoon specifies that a fictional female character you're looking at is a drawing of a 15 year old child, and you still say "I'd smash her", have decency to shut up when criticized and don't pretend everyone else but you is actually weird. It's weird, it's not normal, end of story. Stop seeking validation. Keep that opinion to yourself, or inner circle or something.

No worries. Have him on ignore list already. Weirdos like him are too far gone. Can't believe I've spent that much time arguing about why wanting to F a drawing of a child is weird. Like, you're not a weirdo for wanting to F a cartoon character in literal sense somehow, but if you mention the age of said cartoon character you wanna F - then you're a weirdo. He then contradicts self with "she's not a 15yo, she's a sexually developed female and shit". That's like "I swear your honor, when I met her she looked like an adult" moment in court. Guys like him are the same people who get caught red-handed but still talk nonsense in pathetic attempt to seem innocent, or normal in this case.

@Sigmar-Unberogen You won't get along with him. See another post where some horny guy thought the scene where the main character was about to be raped was hot. He defended him like hell, so obviously there's no point...