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| I think that it appeals to those off MAL more. I see people talking about it a lot on other sites |
| Dungeon Meshi had a lot of marketing in general compared to most seasonals. Also, the creator is a chic so the anime likely has a decently sized female demographic. |
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@Bolona07 both manga are hype without their anime yet though but why frieren blows up more?
also frieren is shonen so that may explain why too
also frieren is shonen so that may explain why too
| @deg Frieren has a huge female demographic too as it is full of pretty boys. That is a big reason how it got #1 highest rated on mal. The creator is highly likely to be a guy based on an interview with TWGoK creator,, but the artist is a chic. |
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| Yes, because it's a seinen. Not a matter of labels, what I mean is that if a manga with the same premise were published in a shounen magazine it would be quite different: - more action-packed fights with overpowered characters - less "boring" worldbuilding - higher stakes (= pretending that anyone could die at any moment when actually the main characters all have plot armor and only nameless NPCs die like flies) - younger main characters - more romantic interests (= main girl instantly falls in love with the main boy but the romance doesn't develop until maybe at the very end) - maybe more comedy based on screaming as loudly as possible |
NirinboApr 24, 2024 1:53 PM
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@bossunhimeswitch can you give examples? on reddit it only has 30k members https://www.reddit.com/r/DungeonMeshi/ while frieren has 100k https://www.reddit.com/r/Frieren/
| @deg - I've seen a lot of people talking about it on Tumblr and Twitter, but that might be because of how I have my space curated. There are some memes on both sites |
| I am on MAL and I have enjoyed it so far. I don’t know why it’s not talked about more, it’s humorous and fun, has good characters, plots, and overall story. |
ejleonApr 24, 2024 1:59 PM
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
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@Nirinbo ye i can see your point especially if the shonen is traditional battle shonen types but kaiju 8 right now a traditional battle shonen has mid popularity in japan so far compared to none traditional battle shonen like wind breaker and also we know frieren is a different kind of shonen too
| @deg I wouldn't say "the more you follow the battle shounen tropes, the more popular a manga will be", but "it's all about a good execution, as long as you follow enough shounen tropes". For example, I imagine that in a seinen version of Sousou no Frieren there would be no need for teenagers in the main cast (Frieren would travel alone), there would be less action (no mage exam arc) and more contemplativeness. Of course, this hypothetical version would be less popular: keep in mind that the MAL score of the anime always increased in correspondence with the more action-packed episodes, that's what most people really want deep down. P.S. regarding the bullet points in my previous comment, I forgot to add something very important: - the food gimmick would be cast aside pretty quickly in favor of the aforementioned action-packed battles, which means that it ended up being just a pretext to make Senshi join the party (+ giving the illusion that the manga is less generic than it actually is) VinSaga98 said: @Nirinbo Look at my other posts above. I’ve explained that Meshi is quite popular, so not sure that has to do with it. Besides, Kaguya-sama, Dress-Up Darling, and Grand Blue are all considered seinen, whereas Frieren and Attack on Titan are shonen, as well as Jojo. I didn't say that Dungeon Meshi is not popular, I explained why it isn't even more popular. |
NirinboApr 24, 2024 4:32 PM
| Can you imagine children under 18 watching this? I can't. It's missing everything that would make a show a hit with the "zoomers". |
| Surprising that this thread turn into Dungeon meshi and Frieren popularity instead of only the former. Anyways, if you have already watch and read Frieren and dungeon meshi than you should know that Frieren has more mass appeal than Dungeon Meshi. Although Marketing plays a huge role too but Just try to compare the first 16 ep of both and it's obvious what type of series both of them are. Frieren is all rounder type of anime that appeal to many different genre of anime fans and can be enjoyed by even new anime fans. On the other hand dungeon meshi is the type that I expect to mostly watch by the people who are already experience anime watcher. I have also seen many people get's turn off because of it's Gourmet genre. And when many people were getting sick of fantasy genre because of isekai's. Frieren with it's classic fantasy setting and unique premise instantly grab people attention. 4 ep release was also one of the reason for it's success. Dungeon meshi just need more time to develop and reveal it's actual plot and character backstories etc. ] There are also other factors like character design,character relationships, powers etc |
E-SatieApr 24, 2024 8:13 PM
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| Dunmeshi is a slow-burn with a focus on character building and the more intense stuff doesn't hit till later. It makes sense it hasn't blown up with the usual MAL crowd of Shonenheads. The manga is utterly excellent but has no appeal to people who only care about explosions and tig 'ol bitties--which, frankly, is most of the people on MAL. Need I remind you all that this is the site that counts fucking Bleach of all things as a top 20 anime. |
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@deg - I've seen a lot of people talking about it on Tumblr and Twitter, but that might be because of how I have my space curated. There are some memes on both sites
| @bossunhimeswitch Seconding this. Not only is Dunmeshi popular on tumblr, it's more popular than Frieren and has more staying power also. People seem to read/watch Frieren, like it a lot, then move on, while Dunmeshi - and Witch hat atelier also, these three have become a sort of a package deal - seem to get people more invested in them long term. So yeah, it's def popular on tumblr and with a similar demographic on other platforms as well, but like pointed out already, MAL demographic is pretty different |
| i've seen it resonate with a female audience nd the majority of mal users r men so looking at mal and reddit statistics dont show the full scope of it's popularity. for example ive seen a BUNCH of people talking about it on tumblr with it trending every week and im sure people r talking about it on twitter too |
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@Allycattt im surprise the female fans love it more but do you know the reason why? is it the cooking? im a male and im enjoying it too
| @deg lol. cooking. how to explain this to somebody that doesn't inherently get it hmm... it's because everybody is a little bit unhinged? in their own unique way. okay lemme try again lmao ryouko kui is a tumblr girlie, like, actually used to have a tumblr blog kinda tumblr girlie, and it shows in what kind of themes she likes exploring and how she approaches them. The way common fantasy and anime tropes are subverted in ways that never feel convoluted or done just for the sake of being different, the way fantasy stereotypes are examined and sometimes rejected but other times taken to their logical extreme, the world building that puts a lot of focus on the social aspect, rather than just politics, geography, magic systems etc. - eve tho those are also there and wonderfully developed, but they're also often a vessel for exploring how people in this world actually live ad what makes them tick. Then there's the absolute wealth of diverse characters, each of whom could easily be a protagonist in their own, or hell, even this story. And to put it plainly, they're all oddballs. You could write essays about every single one of them - and people have, oh boy, have they - but in short the cast feels custom made to make tumblr adjacent fandom absolutely feral over them. Dunmeshi has an entire cast of blorbos you'd want to put in a jar and shake them. They have that particular kind of je ne sais quoi that makes people latch onto them. And combine this with the huge popularity of dnd within that demographic, that would obviously find this western fantasy inspired setting appealing, and you've got a recipe for success. There's also other things, ofc, how dungeonmeshi does horror especially i'd say, but most of that are spoilers All in all, if you're reading this and thinking 'but that's just things that make dunmeshi a good show? that's the same things i like?' then, well, yeah. The answer really is as simple as this is a good show so women like it lmao Maybe a better question would be why do MAL users and redditors seemingly prefer other shows over this one? And finally. Monsterfuckers exist ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| I don't know but I think I may like it more than Frieren. |
| Demoghraphics of magazine/manga is not a genre. It doesn't specify anything. Weekly Shounen Sunday is definitely more selling magazine than Harta, but it doesn't matter for anime. |
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| "is this only moderately popular because its seinen?" No, it's because people don't have personal taste for actually good shows...somebody should tell them to like certain titles. Also Dungeon Meshi is way too nerdy and subtle to your average anime enjoyed, who is used everything to me SCREAMED to their face. |
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