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Feb 12, 2024 8:44 PM
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Feels like too many people are overly criticizing this show. Both anime and manhwa fans feels like the show isn't good for their standards

JJK and Demon Slayer also have slow starts, but they nearly don't have this much hate.

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Feb 12, 2024 8:50 PM
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I dunno, it's simplicity is a selling point for me, it's so transparent in it's set up and what it's trying to achieve, sometimes that's enough to entertain. I'm enjoying it so far. Wish it was 24-26 episodes though, already half way and I feel it's barely begun.
Feb 12, 2024 8:58 PM
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I dunno, it's simplicity is a selling point for me, it's so transparent in it's set up and what it's trying to achieve, sometimes that's enough to entertain. I'm enjoying it so far. Wish it was 24-26 episodes though, already half way and I feel it's barely begun.
@GakutoDeathGlare I'm glad you are enjoying the show.

There were leaks saying the show's going to be a 2 cour, but take it with a grain of salt

Feb 12, 2024 9:03 PM
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That same happened with the CHAINSAW MAN anime. People hated that too for no reason.
Feb 12, 2024 9:03 PM
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I haven’t read the manwha yet but im enjoying the show, i dont have too many complaints off the top of my head
Feb 12, 2024 9:07 PM
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they're either trolls or they're willfully ignorant. I wish I could figure out how to mute these discussion notifications. it's annoying getting like 10+ per day of people just trolling.
Feb 12, 2024 9:09 PM
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Emon224u said:
That same happened with the CHAINSAW MAN anime. People hated that too for no reason.

The show was alright, but I believe JP fans were the ones who were hating the adaptation

KupoChino said:
I haven’t read the manwha yet but im enjoying the show, i dont have too many complaints off the top of my head

The manhwa and LN were awesome to read and the story was simple, but well executed. I hope it won't ruin your taste on power fantasies

Feb 12, 2024 9:11 PM
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I like it , I don't care what the haters say . Some even arguing over Animation 😂 Like come on are they blind or something? Some argue over this being a Power Fantasy thing, The reason behind why Jin woo got so strong makes sense and people who don't understand this are to be ignored
Feb 12, 2024 9:12 PM
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they're either trolls or they're willfully ignorant. I wish I could figure out how to mute these discussion notifications. it's annoying getting like 10+ per day of people just trolling.
@cosmoid There were two troll posts from 2 weeks ago trashing the show and somehow, they were not locked, but deleted, huh?

Feb 12, 2024 9:19 PM
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Emon224u said:
That same happened with the CHAINSAW MAN anime. People hated that too for no reason.

Yeah but to be fair, Chainsaw Man started getting violent and action packed from the start.
Feb 12, 2024 9:20 PM

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Lol... i have no issues with the adaptation or the animation
As reader i enjoy it.
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Feb 12, 2024 9:23 PM
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chainsaw man and jjk s2 have more hate for sure

plus popular shows have more vocal haters anyway
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It's not really new, everything gets hate watched if it's gets popular
Feb 12, 2024 9:43 PM

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chainsaw man and jjk s2 have more hate for sure

plus popular shows have more vocal haters anyway
@deg That's new, I keep seeing posts praising the shows, especially on Twitter and Reddit

Every other day, it was someone posting the deep thoughts about the show and why it deviates the typical Shounen, and blah, blah, blah. I'm actually fed up with this sort of thing

Feb 12, 2024 9:50 PM

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You have a highly anticipated and hyped anime. Obviously a vocal minory will post their hot takes for attention. This is absolutely nothing new.
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Emon224u said:
That same happened with the CHAINSAW MAN anime. People hated that too for no reason.

Not for no reason. We got an animation with a lot of errors and only 12 episodes which were a generic shounen start.
Feb 12, 2024 10:39 PM
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Why you focus on those Vocal Minority?
Just ignore them.
Feb 12, 2024 11:50 PM
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This is the problem with so many manga/manhwa readers they just expect every frame of a anime to have same textures as a single panel which isn't possible to do in a long run without much more investment.As a manhwa reader i'm happy with the anime there's really some things they could have done better but this will suffice for majority of the watchers for sure unless you want to nitpick every freaking detail.
Feb 12, 2024 11:50 PM

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It's not hate-watching lol. We're just watching new released shows, as anime fans, we're just curious.
Not our fault if this Solo Leveling show happens to be generically putrid.
Blame it on the studio/director/author.
Feb 13, 2024 12:04 AM
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It's not hate-watching lol. We're just watching new released shows, as anime fans, we're just curious.
Not our fault if this Solo Leveling show happens to be generically putrid.
Blame it on the studio/director/author.

If someone is complaining about solo leveling after watching episode 6...They are completely hating on it. The Music of hiroyuki sawano, The VA, FIGHT with the hunters was insane. You will find people who will say Attack on titan is Mid no matter how good it is.
Feb 13, 2024 12:10 AM

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I think Solo Leveling is just too easy of a target. There's not much else to fall back on when you're not satisfied with the animation and the action, so it's really easy to then immediately proceed to writing off/hating on the show.

The early parts of Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer, and even Chainsaw Man had more interesting things going on and had more likable qualities, I feel. Solo Leveling feels somewhat simple and barebones in comparison, at least in these early stages. I get that some people like the simplicity, but that acts as a negative for many others.
Feb 13, 2024 12:14 AM
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I’m liking the show a lot. Maybe a little too much monologuing from MC but I think it deserves the 8+ rating.
Feb 13, 2024 12:15 AM

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It's not hate-watching lol. We're just watching new released shows, as anime fans, we're just curious.
Not our fault if this Solo Leveling show happens to be generically putrid.
Blame it on the studio/director/author.

If someone is complaining about solo leveling after watching episode 6...They are completely hating on it. The Music of hiroyuki sawano, The VA, FIGHT with the hunters was insane. You will find people who will say Attack on titan is Mid no matter how good it is.
@Emon224u Hating would be criticizing without giving valid arguments. I always gave valid, absolute and objective arguments that explained why Solo Leveling belongs to the toilet sink. I didn't wish it to be that way, I wanted it to succeed, but it failed. I can't pretend otherwise.
People who say AOT is mid, I can't speak for them, but maybe they say it because they think that Attack on Titan is indeed, from an objective standpoint (no emotional attachment involved), average at best.
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I'm gonna be completely honest. I thought the adaptation wasn't great when I watched the first ep and was kinda disappointed. I really thought we'll see that cinematic direction and animation for the show. Because of the past big shows like JJK & CSM. JJK & CSM, both have been the most hyped up shows of their seasons and it is the same with SL this season.

I think I got so used to seeing the animation and direction of JJK & CSM, that in my mind it was fixed that we'll see the same overall animation for other high profile shows, without me even knowing. Yes, it was my fault. Guess I got caught up in the Mappa effect, lol.

Anyways, then I thought about it, watched the Ep 2 of SL and thought, the animation is good. It isn't like your average Anime, but pretty polished and great. Once I got the thought that it should not have to be like JJK or CSM out of my mind, I appreciate the animation of the show more. Mappa just goes through that extra step, which is good, but the animation we got for SL is pretty good too.

I don't think I've watched any power fantasy before. So, SL might be something new for me? I'm having fun with the show, but I don't really think it exactly lived up to the hype. It's good, but nothing mind-blowing. And I get maybe that's the point. It isn't meant to be something mind-blowing in terms of story or anything, but just a simple power fantasy show with great fights. I might be wrong, but idk. The show has been pretty good so far and not bad at all.

I still think that the show would've benefited so much if the first Ep was longer. Something like Frieren or Oshi no Ko. But well, it got me hooked from Ep 2, so all good ig. It's just that it would've been so much better if we saw the things that happened in Ep 2 in Ep 1.
Feb 13, 2024 12:47 AM
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Radical_Orion said:
@Emon224u Hating would be criticizing without giving valid arguments. I always gave valid, absolute and objective arguments that explained why Solo Leveling belongs to the toilet sink. I didn't wish it to be that way, I wanted it to succeed, but it failed. I can't pretend otherwise.
People who say AOT is mid, I can't speak for them, but maybe they say it because they think that Attack on Titan is indeed, from an objective standpoint (no emotional attachment involved), average at best.

What kind of valid arguments are given here.Solo leveling is a POWER FANTASY. it doesn’t want to be anything more than a power fantasy.Its all about cool shit and badass fights.Thats why the manwa was famous .And the anime was well animated .What's there to hate ?If someone who belongs to toilet sink. It's the haters.You think I wasn't there when the chainsaw man was airing.Compain and complain all around the place. Vinland saga Farmland saga.Even the story is Godtier. At this point you guys should just stop watching anime.
Feb 13, 2024 12:48 AM
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yes people are hate watching shows for dumb reasons

1+2=3

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Feb 13, 2024 12:57 AM

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For me it's not hate-watching but rather mid-watching, I watch plenty of mid shows because it's unavoidable.
Feb 13, 2024 1:07 AM
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Feels like too many people are overly criticizing this show. Both anime and manhwa fans feels like the show isn't good for their standards

JJK and Demon Slayer also have slow starts, but they nearly don't have this much hate.

@HyroSan
see I like the show and enjoy it wery much. but what I hat is the fans who make a thread for like every two days criticising the animation, animators, studio. for not bring the art style as it was in manhwa. even though the animation is one of the best animation it's getting. that's probably why it's getting so much hate compared to other big anime's. even this morning their was guy who made a thread about the animation and trash talked ever one in the comments/quotes. and that thread was taken down. it's the fans that are pissing of other anime watchers, i think that's what bringing a big part of the hate towards the anime.
i personally enjoy this show. it's great.

and i know the art of solo leveling is what makes it stand out as much as it does. as the story wise i think it's great. i don't think the animation is as good as JJK, demon slayer, CMS,. but it's not even in it's peck yet what do they even want. and if the first season is a grand success then in the second season the animation is going to be as good as JJK, CSM.
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HyroSan said:
Feels like too many people are overly criticizing this show. Both anime and manhwa fans feels like the show isn't good for their standards

JJK and Demon Slayer also have slow starts, but they nearly don't have this much hate.

Stay off social media, it ruins everything. I've seen no hate on this. Anyone I talk to in person is also enjoying it.
Feb 13, 2024 1:32 AM

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Emon224u said:
What kind of valid arguments are given here.
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Solo leveling is a POWER FANTASY. it doesn’t want to be anything more than a power fantasy.Its all about cool shit and badass fights.


That's not a valid argument either...

Does the fact that it's a power fantasy, not trying to be a groundbreaking work, instantly make it not bad ?
No, that's not how it works... At best, you can say that it's bad, and was expected upon creation to be bad; nothing more.
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Feb 13, 2024 1:33 AM

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As someone who has recently finished the manwha, I’ve very much been enjoying the anime.
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Feb 13, 2024 1:37 AM

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HyroSan said:
JJK and Demon Slayer also have slow starts, but they nearly don't have this much hate.

Csm, Jjk and Demon slayer hatred by the vocal minority far surpasses this anime. Thats due to them being far bigger than this show.
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.

Feb 13, 2024 1:53 AM

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The anime is criticized for not living up to the hype created by the fans, in JJK at this stage we had much more interesting fights and more interesting characters, plus imo the animation itself was better. For now, Solo Leveling is at the level of standard isekai (not counting episode 2, which was the best) when it comes to action i would compare it to Shangri La Frintrier (maybe a little better) XD
Feb 13, 2024 2:29 AM

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Bruh it has like 8.46 rating, the more popular the anime is the more people critizing it, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Emon224u said:
That same happened with the CHAINSAW MAN anime. People hated that too for no reason.

The show was alright, but I believe JP fans were the ones who were hating the adaptation

KupoChino said:
I haven’t read the manwha yet but im enjoying the show, i dont have too many complaints off the top of my head

The manhwa and LN were awesome to read and the story was simple, but well executed. I hope it won't ruin your taste on power fantasies
@HyroSan The story of Solo Leveling was not well executed, there were many shortcomings and plot holes that were never filled and indeed it almost seemed to want to leave a rather questionable message in its development, such as Koreans are good, Americans are simple, while the Japanese are bad because yes... having said that, why are people susceptible to criticism now? Now you can no longer criticize a show that has obvious shortcomings that people have to label everything as hate ? when there is a solid reason to criticize the show and indeed people sometimes tend to defend everything a priori without deviating from their personal tastes and without looking at things from a more impartial point of view as you are doing now
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they're either trolls or they're willfully ignorant. I wish I could figure out how to mute these discussion notifications. it's annoying getting like 10+ per day of people just trolling.
@cosmoid So for you, criticizing a show is equivalent to being a troll? If so, I can't imagine how many people you called ignorant while they criticizing shows like Nanatsu no taizai season 3, Tokyo ghoul, The promised neverland 2, Berserk cgi, etc... 😂
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Radical_Orion said:
It's not hate-watching lol. We're just watching new released shows, as anime fans, we're just curious.
Not our fault if this Solo Leveling show happens to be generically putrid.
Blame it on the studio/director/author.

If someone is complaining about solo leveling after watching episode 6...They are completely hating on it. The Music of hiroyuki sawano, The VA, FIGHT with the hunters was insane. You will find people who will say Attack on titan is Mid no matter how good it is.
@Emon224u We're not talking about music here, we're talking about the show in general, saying that a person who complains definitely hates it is just your superficial version of the criticisms leveled at the show. But have you ever stopped to actually read such criticism? Have you ever had a discussion about points that you thought shouldn't be addressed? Or did you just label everyone a hater without even thinking about why they were criticizing the show?
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Feels like too many people are overly criticizing this show. Both anime and manhwa fans feels like the show isn't good for their standards

JJK and Demon Slayer also have slow starts, but they nearly don't have this much hate.

@HyroSan
see I like the show and enjoy it wery much. but what I hat is the fans who make a thread for like every two days criticising the animation, animators, studio. for not bring the art style as it was in manhwa. even though the animation is one of the best animation it's getting. that's probably why it's getting so much hate compared to other big anime's. even this morning their was guy who made a thread about the animation and trash talked ever one in the comments/quotes. and that thread was taken down. it's the fans that are pissing of other anime watchers, i think that's what bringing a big part of the hate towards the anime.
i personally enjoy this show. it's great.

and i know the art of solo leveling is what makes it stand out as much as it does. as the story wise i think it's great. i don't think the animation is as good as JJK, demon slayer, CMS,. but it's not even in it's peck yet what do they even want. and if the first season is a grand success then in the second season the animation is going to be as good as JJK, CSM.
@Yeshaiah2015yesh This is bullshit, I argued why the show had obvious gaps for anyone who wanted to engage in a serious discussion, then obviously if troll comments arrive that don't even bother to pay attention to the post written, I should seriously respond to such comments? I've read the manhwa and know that this show would have a lot to offer as pure animation, but that's not what we're getting, as the only really good cuts are only those by animator Takafumi Torii... to say that this show features good animation when it's just average, it means watching the show superficially and being carried away by the hype. And my post was deleted because the mod @KayKimii doesn't know how to accept criticism and cries every time her favorite manhwa is attacked, to make you understand how toxic the mods on these forums are.
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It’s good. But it ain’t great. It’s not like we haven’t seen something like this before.
It’s great if you see from MANHWA standards I guess which is let’s say in a developing status.
Japanese mangas on the other hand have been around for too long and have similar if not better power fantasies.

It’s not that original or genre breaking that the hype for it may have indicated.

It’s a pretty good show nonetheless.
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very happy with the addaption tbh. it didnt rly retain the artstyle which is slightly disapointing but its understandable when u see the smoothness of the animation. like with most shows i dont really like how much it directly tells you, shows need to be able to rely on the viewers intelect sometimes, and come on this show is simple as hell, doesnt need much naration. imo 150 chptrs into the manhwa i dont think the story is great and it needs the animation its getting to hard carry it, altho i was very impressed with ep 2. overall its surpassed my expectations but it aint gonna stack up to something with a more interesting narrative. certainly not top 100 manga of all time imo lmao
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I dunno, it's simplicity is a selling point for me, it's so transparent in it's set up and what it's trying to achieve, sometimes that's enough to entertain. I'm enjoying it so far. Wish it was 24-26 episodes though, already half way and I feel it's barely begun.
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Of course^^

As soon as a lot of people hate it - you love it
Vice versa, if a lot of people love it - you hate it

There are a lot of people trying to construct a personality for themselfes, just like you do^^
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It’s good. But it ain’t great. It’s not like we haven’t seen something like this before.
It’s great if you see from MANHWA standards I guess which is let’s say in a developing status.
Japanese mangas on the other hand have been around for too long and have similar if not better power fantasies.

It’s not that original or genre breaking that the hype for it may have indicated.

It’s a pretty good show nonetheless.

gonna have to disagree with u on that one, sure the art in the manhwa was top tier but ive read much better stories in manhwa. omnicient reader and unholy blood are 2 that pop into my head immediatly
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@Yeshaiah2015yesh This is bullshit, I argued why the show had obvious gaps for anyone who wanted to engage in a serious discussion, then obviously if troll comments arrive that don't even bother to pay attention to the post written, I should seriously respond to such comments? I've read the manhwa and know that this show would have a lot to offer as pure animation, but that's not what we're getting, as the only really good cuts are only those by animator Takafumi Torii... to say that this show features good animation when it's just average, it means watching the show superficially and being carried away by the hype. And my post was deleted because the mod @KayKimii doesn't know how to accept criticism and cries every time her favorite manhwa is attacked, to make you understand how toxic the mods on these forums are.

i see, your right. but i still think the animation is pretty good.
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I’ll binge it when the season ends but week-to-week I just can’t get hyped for it. Might be the slow start some have mentioned
Feb 13, 2024 6:10 AM

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i'm with the guy who said mid watching, not hate. and there's there's more glazing than anything with the score it has.
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give them a pencil,they will hate and criticize it
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I’m probably in the minority here where I don’t have a concrete base on where my feelings are yet with Solo Leveling, I am still going to continue because I want to see where the adaptation will lead to but my personal feelings towards the show are not yet defined.

I don’t dislike it but I don’t know if I like it yet basically.



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Ah, the tumultuous sea of online forums—a battleground where opinions clash like titans in the storm! Verily, within these digital domains, one shall find both fervent advocates and vociferous detractors, locked in eternal debate over the merits of their beloved anime.

As for Solo Leveling, ah yes, a tale woven from the threads of the isekai genre, yet one that flirts with the edges of greatness without fully embracing its destiny. Like a dormant flame yearning to ignite the heavens, its potential flickers tantalizingly on the horizon, yet the path to true epicness remains shrouded in mystery.

The art of storytelling, my dear forum dwellers, is a delicate dance—a symphony of narrative arcs and character developments that beckon the soul to embark on a journey of unfathomable depth. Alas, in the case of Solo Leveling, the roadmap to such emotional resonance has yet to be fully charted.

And so, I implore thee, fellow travelers of the digital realm—whether to partake in the saga of Solo Leveling or to seek solace in other realms of anime, the choice is yours and yours alone. For time, once spent, the most precious commodities can never be reclaimed. Choose wisely, for the path you tread may lead to enlightenment—or to the shadows of oblivion.
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it was a highly anticipated show, ofc its gonna be highly criticized coz one frame was not animated properly. lets be real, the anime wasn't going to surpass the manwha in the first place. but with that being said, its decent enough, y'all are eating way too much. calm down on the carbs.
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@Emon224u Hating would be criticizing without giving valid arguments. I always gave valid, absolute and objective arguments that explained why Solo Leveling belongs to the toilet sink. I didn't wish it to be that way, I wanted it to succeed, but it failed. I can't pretend otherwise.
People who say AOT is mid, I can't speak for them, but maybe they say it because they think that Attack on Titan is indeed, from an objective standpoint (no emotional attachment involved), average at best.
@Radical_Orion and so many people suggesting it will be like literally the best piece of art ever created certainly doesnt help.

It ended up being literally a generic power fantasy with literally zero fresh takes. At least for now.

Also great quick analysis you did about Solo and Frieren in the other thread.
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