Attack on Titan
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APolygons2 said:
@Confused_100
The problem is that you are not thinking.
so let me break it down.
- why did he do it?
to save bertholt
that was the goal. There is no reasoning for why the mom had die specifically.
so what does that imply?
it implies that the titan would either go for bertholt, or would enter the city and end up eating eren's mom.
The delima, would be unfinished otherwise.
@Confused_100
The problem is that you are not thinking.
so let me break it down.
- why did he do it?
to save bertholt
that was the goal. There is no reasoning for why the mom had die specifically.
so what does that imply?
it implies that the titan would either go for bertholt, or would enter the city and end up eating eren's mom.
The delima, would be unfinished otherwise.
And now acting as if you didn’t just contradict yourself and trying to dismiss anything I say as if I didn’t understand. Dude just be genuine because this is just hysterical reading things, people already dismissed of you
Confused_100 said: And now acting as if you didn’t just contradict yourself and trying to dismiss anything I say as if I didn’t understand. Dude just be genuine because this is just hysterical reading things, people already dismissed of you What contradiction? Eren Chose Bertholt over his mom. Because it was necessary. His reasoning was "because bertholt needed to be alive" If he could have saved both, this would not have been a delima. |
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APolygons2 said: what we DO know about Ymir tho is that she's THE Mother of all oppressed characters in the whole show, the VERY THEME that the show is trying to solve. Throwing "she loved her oppressor" despite ALL of the shit he's done to her simply negates the very purpose of that theme tbw.We barely know about Yimir. her arc is more like a "lore" dump. she isn't really a character. it's pretty obvious her love was a Stockholm syndrome kind of situation. It could have been expanded, but it's nowhere near "not making sense". APolygons2 said: cared =/= "i want her to pine after me for at least ten years!"Eren always cared about mikasa in the subtext That's not "caring". That's SIMPING. APolygons2 said: maybe not "fully". But certainly not BURST CRYING over him.are you telling me the character that her entire arc, and personality, has been 80% liking eren, should have fully gotten over it in 3 years? APolygons2 said: too bad Historia already did thatwell no, because a big point in aot is conflict always will happen. They needed to show that what eren did never ended war in general. Eren was not a hero, and the ending is extremely necessary in showing that. "Even with the Titans gone, the conflict will not go away. Eren passed on to me all that he knew of the future. Though i cannot see the future that lies beyond this one, i have been able to see this future clearly." 1:16:21 and choosing Historia as the narrator of this line was perfect considering she's the Queen of the characters. Well point to be noted is that yes conflicts will not end, but in THIS timeline we're seeing, it DID END. FULL STOP TRC_Randy said: A LOT of plot armour.It had some plot armour TRC_Randy said: not the edgy song playing midfight tho. I didn't like that. EVERY single time they come out.but other than that, that shit was epic. the music in particular was a love letter to the entire soundtrack APolygons2 said: bruh "sending it to her" IS killing her. He had the POWER to send it ELSEWHERE but guess what, DIE momma. BYE momma.He is basically saying he could change the past, and make it so the titan would attack bethorlt instead of continuing ahead and reaching his mom. It's not that "he killed his mom". It's that he didn't save her. |
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APolygons2 said:
We barely know about Yimir. her arc is more like a "lore" dump. she isn't really a character. it's pretty obvious her love was a Stockholm syndrome kind of situation. It could have been expanded, but it's nowhere near "not making sense".
what we DO know about Ymir tho is that she's THE Mother of all oppressed characters in the whole show, the VERY THEME that the show is trying to solve. Throwing "she loved her oppressor" despite ALL of the shit he's done to her simply negates the very purpose of that theme tbw.We barely know about Yimir. her arc is more like a "lore" dump. she isn't really a character. it's pretty obvious her love was a Stockholm syndrome kind of situation. It could have been expanded, but it's nowhere near "not making sense".
APolygons2 said:
Eren always cared about mikasa in the subtext
cared =/= "i want her to pine after me for at least ten years!"Eren always cared about mikasa in the subtext
That's not "caring". That's SIMPING.
APolygons2 said:
are you telling me the character that her entire arc, and personality, has been 80% liking eren, should have fully gotten over it in 3 years?
maybe not "fully". But certainly not BURST CRYING over him.are you telling me the character that her entire arc, and personality, has been 80% liking eren, should have fully gotten over it in 3 years?
APolygons2 said:
well no, because a big point in aot is conflict always will happen. They needed to show that what eren did never ended war in general. Eren was not a hero, and the ending is extremely necessary in showing that.
too bad Historia already did thatwell no, because a big point in aot is conflict always will happen. They needed to show that what eren did never ended war in general. Eren was not a hero, and the ending is extremely necessary in showing that.
"Even with the Titans gone, the conflict will not go away. Eren passed on to me all that he knew of the future. Though i cannot see the future that lies beyond this one, i have been able to see this future clearly."
1:16:21 and choosing Historia as the narrator of this line was perfect considering she's the Queen of the characters. Well point to be noted is that yes conflicts will not end, but in THIS timeline we're seeing, it DID END. FULL STOP
TRC_Randy said:
It had some plot armour
A LOT of plot armour.It had some plot armour
TRC_Randy said:
but other than that, that shit was epic. the music in particular was a love letter to the entire soundtrack
not the edgy song playing midfight tho. I didn't like that. EVERY single time they come out.but other than that, that shit was epic. the music in particular was a love letter to the entire soundtrack
APolygons2 said:
He is basically saying he could change the past, and make it so the titan would attack bethorlt instead of continuing ahead and reaching his mom.
It's not that "he killed his mom". It's that he didn't save her.
bruh "sending it to her" IS killing her. He had the POWER to send it ELSEWHERE but guess what, DIE momma. BYE momma.He is basically saying he could change the past, and make it so the titan would attack bethorlt instead of continuing ahead and reaching his mom.
It's not that "he killed his mom". It's that he didn't save her.
TRC_Randy said: He had the POWER to send it ELSEWHERE but guess what, DIE momma. BYE momma. for most of this I just respectfully disagree cause there isn't much I can say to add to what I already said. and based on your answer, I can already tell you that neither of us is changing anyone's mind. BUT. I will reply to this one. IF eren had the power to send the titan somewhere else, it would not be a delima between saving bertholt or his mother anymore. he very clearly said he did it because bertholt had to stay alive, he doesn't say he had to make sure his mother dies specifically. so if the goal was the titan not going for bertholt, the implication would be that he could not just make the titan do whatever he wants. That would defeat the whole point having to choose one of them. |
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TRC_Randy said:
He had the POWER to send it ELSEWHERE but guess what, DIE momma. BYE momma.
He had the POWER to send it ELSEWHERE but guess what, DIE momma. BYE momma.
for most of this I just respectfully disagree cause there isn't much I can say to add to what I already said. and based on your answer, I can already tell you that neither of us is changing anyone's mind. BUT.
I will reply to this one.
IF eren had the power to send the titan somewhere else, it would not be a delima between saving bertholt or his mother anymore.
he very clearly said he did it because bertholt had to stay alive, he doesn't say he had to make sure his mother dies specifically.
so if the goal was the titan not going for bertholt, the implication would be that he could not just make the titan do whatever he wants. That would defeat the whole point having to choose one of them.
APolygons2 said: follow the TRUTH instead of what this mind or that mind thinks.for most of this I just respectfully disagree cause there isn't much I can say to add to what I already said. and based on your answer, I can already tell you that neither of us is changing anyone's mind. APolygons2 said: yeah that's where my criticism is. Why died his mother? Why not died NOBODY?he very clearly said he did it because bertholt had to stay alive, he doesn't say he had to make sure his mother dies specifically. |
Confused_100 said: Piromysl said: As I said, the "bad ending" is just watchers being disappointed that characters did not acted the way they wanted, which is quite common for people who are unable to feel empathy or relate to others due to never facing any hardship and living in privilege. They wanted Eren to murder everyone, while his true goal was just to make Paradians a heroes, who will stop him and world will spare them. Overall, I think that AOT is a perfect example how people are prone to manipulation and propaganda. Some people unironically see nothing wrong with global genocide just because they have seen one side of the story, became emotionally attached to Eren and hate everyone who wronged him. But Gabi is receiving full hate for being basically just like Eren at the start of the story and killing fan favourite comic relief character. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the ending. As you said, it's conclusive and satisfying. People are just idiots. Honesty, when I saw this outrage two years ago, I was expecting something like aliens invading out of nowhere, Eren turning into a spaceship, Mikasa piloting him and them going together to destroy alien homeworld. Another defender mentality who actually didn’t read any criticism and created one to invalidate any criticism… Like cmon Profile name checks out. |
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DaCraziGuy said:
Of course some people is gonna hate, why would you want realism in a media where escapism is the goal. The self insert people feel like they got killed and never got the girl. A 1000 years of peace wasn't enough, they wanted paradise until the end of time.
Anyways, the show has a fking 9 at the moment, most people seems to be pretty sane. I expected a lower score for the final season, but it's always the butthurt the one that screams the loudest.
Great ending for a great show. Considering the most popular anime bad written it's funny, people that say that are just insane.
Of course some people is gonna hate, why would you want realism in a media where escapism is the goal. The self insert people feel like they got killed and never got the girl. A 1000 years of peace wasn't enough, they wanted paradise until the end of time.
Anyways, the show has a fking 9 at the moment, most people seems to be pretty sane. I expected a lower score for the final season, but it's always the butthurt the one that screams the loudest.
Great ending for a great show. Considering the most popular anime bad written it's funny, people that say that are just insane.
Realistic is to contradict your own message in the same scene where Paradis gets eradicated and war having a victor… Dude stop dismissing criticisms because you liked it
| @Confused_100 Clearly you are confused, lol. There is no eternal empire, no matter how big or powerful it is, it always fall. I don't see how watching Paradis fall after who knows isn't realistic... I mean, we don't even know if all paradis felt, or how the other side ended up considering that the only thing that reclaimed the city is nature. Also, yeah, I can dismiss your criticism (even tho you never said what is wrong in your opinion) because AoT became one of the most popular and well received animes of all time. You may argue that it isn't the best show (I don't think it is), but calling it bad is just being butthurt. So, what would make a good end in your opinion? |
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APolygons2 said:
for most of this I just respectfully disagree cause there isn't much I can say to add to what I already said. and based on your answer, I can already tell you that neither of us is changing anyone's mind.
follow the TRUTH instead of what this mind or that mind thinks.for most of this I just respectfully disagree cause there isn't much I can say to add to what I already said. and based on your answer, I can already tell you that neither of us is changing anyone's mind.
APolygons2 said:
he very clearly said he did it because bertholt had to stay alive, he doesn't say he had to make sure his mother dies specifically.
yeah that's where my criticism is. Why died his mother? Why not died NOBODY?he very clearly said he did it because bertholt had to stay alive, he doesn't say he had to make sure his mother dies specifically.
TRC_Randy said: follow the TRUTH instead of what this mind or that mind thinks. It's not about truth though, like ok let me show you. TRC_Randy said: cared =/= "i want her to pine after me for at least ten years!" That's not "caring". That's SIMPING. I think eren hiding his feelings of romance towards mikasa, makes perfect sense. It's not contradictory, his care for her could have been both brotherly or romantically, and both of them would add up. just because he never opened up about it, it doesn't make it untrue. or TRC_Randy said: not the edgy song playing midfight tho. I didn't like that. EVERY single time they come out. I liked the music a LOT. there is not much more I can say. attack on titan as a whole has my 3rd favourite anime soundtrack right behind made in abyss and madoka magica. like, what else can I say? I could link you some of those "music producer reacts" videos, but like, that's not really important. you didn't like the music as much. I loved it. that's real the truth. or this: TRC_Randy said: maybe not "fully". But certainly not BURST CRYING over him. I think it is entirely possible to bust over a grave crying, even if it's been years. people cry over dead ones even when it's been years. It's just true. like what can I say? If you ask people who have lost very close friends or family members, there is a good chance that there has been a time where they started crying over it years after. because they got reminded of them, or where visiting their grave. It's completely normal, but if you think it's unrealistic, I can't do much to change that. or here: TRC_Randy said: too bad Historia already did that "Even with the Titans gone, the conflict will not go away. Eren passed on to me all that he knew of the future. Though i cannot see the future that lies beyond this one, i have been able to see this future clearly." 1:16:21 and choosing Historia as the narrator of this line was perfect considering she's the Queen of the characters. Well point to be noted is that yes conflicts will not end, but in THIS timeline we're seeing, it DID END. FULL STOP like, yes , you are right that the historia thing was technically enough. but to me, the war reinforcing the themes, only made it more satisfying. I get satisfaction from shit like that. idk? like, if the reason it's bad is it making the ending unsatisfying, and I was satisfied.... then that's just that. nothing can make me go back in time and be unsatisfied with it while I see that lol TRC_Randy said: yeah that's where my criticism is. Why died his mother? Why not died NOBODY? and this fully comes down to me giving the show the benefit of the doubt, and you not doing so. I think the "why not kill no one" solution is too obvious. I am willing to believe that it was a choice, and isayama either didn't word it properly, or it was lost in translation. I think it's too obvious of a mistake, so obvious that I don't think anyone who writes stories for a living would ever make it. So I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt. that's ultimately what this comes down to. |
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I don't want to go into details but yeah, the ending is weak, not the worst ending though, there are plenty of animes out there with worse... WORSE endings, I won't let this mid-ending ruin my overall enjoyment of Attack on Titan, the ending simply happened to be 7/10 but the anime is a well-deserved 10/10 from me.
I will only say that Eren is a fucking idiot, he killed 80% of humanity just for that? that mofo needed to chill, let Zeke handle things with the euthanasia plan, and afterward Eren can live his life with Mikasa and have all the sex he wants in peace but no, he needed to turn into a genocidal psychopath, Zeke's plan is the obvious choice here, it's the plan with the least killing and the least suffering, Eren's plan is the one of a fucking genocidal idiot, this is why idiots with powers can't exist, they will just fuck things up, and fuck you, Hitler and those fuckers living in the present with political power, fuck you all.
Zeke is another son of a bitch for killing Erwin, the best character in the whole goddamn anime, but I will always choose the plan with the least killing and the least suffering so I'm on team Zeke here, you sly son of a bitch.
I will only say that Eren is a fucking idiot, he killed 80% of humanity just for that? that mofo needed to chill, let Zeke handle things with the euthanasia plan, and afterward Eren can live his life with Mikasa and have all the sex he wants in peace but no, he needed to turn into a genocidal psychopath, Zeke's plan is the obvious choice here, it's the plan with the least killing and the least suffering, Eren's plan is the one of a fucking genocidal idiot, this is why idiots with powers can't exist, they will just fuck things up, and fuck you, Hitler and those fuckers living in the present with political power, fuck you all.
Zeke is another son of a bitch for killing Erwin, the best character in the whole goddamn anime, but I will always choose the plan with the least killing and the least suffering so I'm on team Zeke here, you sly son of a bitch.
| @xZabuzax I loved the ending, but I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID lol Eren is an idiot (at least he's smart enough to know it) Zeek's plan was the way to go and erwin was the best character in the show, I kinda wish I could see what he would do past s3 if he was alive. I would pay for isayama to write a "what if erwin was saved instead" spin off movie or something. |
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TRC_Randy said:
follow the TRUTH instead of what this mind or that mind thinks.
follow the TRUTH instead of what this mind or that mind thinks.
It's not about truth though, like ok let me show you.
TRC_Randy said:
cared =/= "i want her to pine after me for at least ten years!"
That's not "caring". That's SIMPING.
cared =/= "i want her to pine after me for at least ten years!"
That's not "caring". That's SIMPING.
I think eren hiding his feelings of romance towards mikasa, makes perfect sense. It's not contradictory, his care for her could have been both brotherly or romantically, and both of them would add up.
just because he never opened up about it, it doesn't make it untrue.
or
TRC_Randy said:
not the edgy song playing midfight tho. I didn't like that. EVERY single time they come out.
not the edgy song playing midfight tho. I didn't like that. EVERY single time they come out.
I liked the music a LOT. there is not much more I can say.
attack on titan as a whole has my 3rd favourite anime soundtrack right behind made in abyss and madoka magica.
like, what else can I say?
I could link you some of those "music producer reacts" videos, but like, that's not really important.
you didn't like the music as much. I loved it.
that's real the truth.
or this:
TRC_Randy said:
maybe not "fully". But certainly not BURST CRYING over him.
maybe not "fully". But certainly not BURST CRYING over him.
I think it is entirely possible to bust over a grave crying, even if it's been years. people cry over dead ones even when it's been years. It's just true.
like what can I say?
If you ask people who have lost very close friends or family members, there is a good chance that there has been a time where they started crying over it years after. because they got reminded of them, or where visiting their grave.
It's completely normal, but if you think it's unrealistic, I can't do much to change that.
or here:
TRC_Randy said:
too bad Historia already did that
"Even with the Titans gone, the conflict will not go away. Eren passed on to me all that he knew of the future. Though i cannot see the future that lies beyond this one, i have been able to see this future clearly."
1:16:21 and choosing Historia as the narrator of this line was perfect considering she's the Queen of the characters. Well point to be noted is that yes conflicts will not end, but in THIS timeline we're seeing, it DID END. FULL STOP
too bad Historia already did that
"Even with the Titans gone, the conflict will not go away. Eren passed on to me all that he knew of the future. Though i cannot see the future that lies beyond this one, i have been able to see this future clearly."
1:16:21 and choosing Historia as the narrator of this line was perfect considering she's the Queen of the characters. Well point to be noted is that yes conflicts will not end, but in THIS timeline we're seeing, it DID END. FULL STOP
like, yes , you are right that the historia thing was technically enough.
but to me, the war reinforcing the themes, only made it more satisfying. I get satisfaction from shit like that. idk? like, if the reason it's bad is it making the ending unsatisfying, and I was satisfied.... then that's just that. nothing can make me go back in time and be unsatisfied with it while I see that lol
TRC_Randy said:
yeah that's where my criticism is. Why died his mother? Why not died NOBODY?
yeah that's where my criticism is. Why died his mother? Why not died NOBODY?
and this fully comes down to me giving the show the benefit of the doubt, and you not doing so.
I think the "why not kill no one" solution is too obvious. I am willing to believe that it was a choice, and isayama either didn't word it properly, or it was lost in translation.
I think it's too obvious of a mistake, so obvious that I don't think anyone who writes stories for a living would ever make it.
So I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt. that's ultimately what this comes down to.
APolygons2 said: and this fully comes down to me giving the show the benefit of the doubt, and you not doing so. I think the "why not kill no one" solution is too obvious. I am willing to believe that it was a choice, and isayama either didn't word it properly, or it was lost in translation. I think it's too obvious of a mistake, so obvious that I don't think anyone who writes stories for a living would ever make it. So I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt. that's ultimately what this comes down to. Why would you need to give the benefit of the doubt to a completely unnecessary plot twist made for shock value? That is just bad writing, and that is why people disliked the ending. I think that disliking something that muddles everything towards the end because the writer couldn't connect the ending with the prior development in a satisfactory and coherent way is a completely reasonable position. |
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APolygons2 said:
and this fully comes down to me giving the show the benefit of the doubt, and you not doing so.
I think the "why not kill no one" solution is too obvious. I am willing to believe that it was a choice, and isayama either didn't word it properly, or it was lost in translation.
I think it's too obvious of a mistake, so obvious that I don't think anyone who writes stories for a living would ever make it.
So I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt. that's ultimately what this comes down to.
and this fully comes down to me giving the show the benefit of the doubt, and you not doing so.
I think the "why not kill no one" solution is too obvious. I am willing to believe that it was a choice, and isayama either didn't word it properly, or it was lost in translation.
I think it's too obvious of a mistake, so obvious that I don't think anyone who writes stories for a living would ever make it.
So I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt. that's ultimately what this comes down to.
Why would you need to give the benefit of the doubt to a completely unnecessary plot twist made for shock value? That is just bad writing, and that is why people disliked the ending. I think that disliking something that muddles everything towards the end because the writer couldn't connect the ending with the prior development in a satisfactory and coherent way is a completely reasonable position.
Gween_Gween said: Why would you need to give the benefit of the doubt to a completely unnecessary plot twist made for shock value? Because I didn't even register it as a plot twist, nor did I find it shocking. it just made sense to me that just like memories of the future, he could have saved his mom. and due to aot's time travel being built on a VERY flimsy type of time travel when it comes to creating paradoxes, I think making the explanation vague was the right choice, although in this case it was a bit too vague. memories of the future was the sweet spot. but that aside, I will always give any show that has any resemblance of trying to do something special the benefit of the doubt. I don't see why I shouldn't. If I see a way to like the thing I'm watching more, I'm taking it. I love anime. I want to love everything that I watch. If I can see a show from an angle that makes it more enjoyable to me, I'm always going to try and find that angle. and even that aside, I have seen real bad writing and oh boy trust me, if something is truly poorly written, no amount of "benefit of the doubt" will save it. |
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If I remember correctly, at the time of when the manga ended. People didn't like the ending because it was too open and didn't resolve enough of the questions that people had been asking (what the titan centipede actually was, whether Eren was right about the Ackerman clan or if he was lying to push Mikasa away, there were others as well but I can't remember). I personally didn't mind the ending then, maybe a 6-7/10 but the anime elevated it for me.
| @SamuelPapprill getting an answer on the akerman thing would have been nice, but I think leaving the centipede as vague as possible was absolutely the right move. That is the type of thing that nothing could have been a satisfying explanation for it's existence. it's far better off being left as this mysterious thing that is beyond our world. |
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theMario3721 said: I'll give my opinions on why I thought the ending was bad, but if you check the score I gave it, it's 7. Here's why: First thing, the ending isn't all bad. I was enjoying it, even though it wasn't my favorite part of the series (being everything from Kenny to the beginning of the rumble). Up to the point where they're fighting Eren, it's a solid 8/10. When Armin has the vision with Eren, I begun thinking it was bad for a few reasons. Trying to make the viewer feel sorry for Eren at a point in the story where he has killed 80% of humanity doesn't work. It's obvious he wasn't all evil before the rumbling, but after season 3's ending, Isayama did quite a good job building Eren up to be an antagonist that has "good reasons" but does bad things because he think he's justified. That's good, that's great. Then, right at the ending, Eren starts crying like "ooohhhh i didnt want to do it 😭😭😭 i saw every future but it always ended on war so i thought that killing 80% of humanity was good so i could make you guys the heroes and then have you kill me like get me off of here man i dont want to deal with this anymore im just dumb lmao also sorry for killing you guys 😭😭😭". Like... what? That's such a bad turn of events at the worst possible time it's just funny. Even worse, the characters act like Eren wasn't all bad he just didn't know what to do. Like he was a tiny bit justified. For Mikasa, this works, she was alredy crazy for him, that's understandable. For Armin? Not so much, but ok, I can make that stretch. Now, for all the rest? Jean? Connie? FUCKING LEVI? Levi quite literally saw Erwin die because of Eren, then saw Hange die because of Eren, and he was like "ok maybe he wasn't that bad, he's just stupid...". I mean, what the fuck? The rushed "development" or "reason explaining" Eren does at the end was what made me dislike the thing at the end. It's not natural, it isn't good, it's hilariously bad. It's like Isayama thought he couldn't just make Eren a complex character by making he go the deep end and become a genocidal maniac so he made Eren feel bad for what he did but he had no choice to do otherwise. This is another problem. Eren said he gave up because he tried countless futures and none worked. Ok, understandable, that's human nature and war's hardly going anywhere anytime soon. So why didn't Eren ask for Hange's help? Or Armin's? Or for anyone's help? You telling me he's all good telling his powers to Floch so he can kill 80% of humanity, but talking to his friends about his future seeing powers is a no go? Like wtf. It doesn't make any sense. Another reason the ending was bad was the scene where Eren told he killed his mother because otherwise Bertolt would die. That was just funny. Out of nowhere and for no reason at all besides making the reader be like poor Eren he was """"forced""""" to kill his mom :( Besides that? The ending was good. Eren loyalists still exist, people hate eldians because of Eren, but Armin and our bros will still try to make peace a thing. And Mikasa became a celibate because no Eren for her anymore. Anything that had to do with Eren and his motives and the characters trying to make it even slightly ok was bad. That's what I thought of it, basically. This. Also the buildup for historia s baby and mikasa’s heritage had no payback. Connie randomly going to get his mom back in the middle of everything was so weird. |
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APolygons2 said:
@xZabuzax I loved the ending, but I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID lol
Eren is an idiot (at least he's smart enough to know it)
Zeek's plan was the way to go
and erwin was the best character in the show, I kinda wish I could see what he would do past s3 if he was alive. I would pay for isayama to write a "what if erwin was saved instead" spin off movie or something.
@xZabuzax I loved the ending, but I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID lol
Eren is an idiot (at least he's smart enough to know it)
Zeek's plan was the way to go
and erwin was the best character in the show, I kinda wish I could see what he would do past s3 if he was alive. I would pay for isayama to write a "what if erwin was saved instead" spin off movie or something.
Well thank you for accepting atleast some criticisms here.
| @Confused_100 I don't think any of these are a problem a character being stupid, killing off the best character, a different character having a better plan... none of these are "problems" |
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@Confused_100 I don't think any of these are a problem
a character being stupid, killing off the best character, a different character having a better plan...
none of these are "problems"
a character being stupid, killing off the best character, a different character having a better plan...
none of these are "problems"
| @APolygons2 >a character being stupid isn't a problem lol Making characters temporarily stupid in order to force the plot in a particular direction is Bad Writing 101. There are lots of stupid people in the world that do stupid things, so while it might be realistic for a character to be stupid, that doesn't mean it's good writing. Realistic does not automatically equal good. |
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@APolygons2
>a character being stupid isn't a problem
lol
Making characters temporarily stupid in order to force the plot in a particular direction is Bad Writing 101. There are lots of stupid people in the world that do stupid things, so while it might be realistic for a character to be stupid, that doesn't mean it's good writing. Realistic does not automatically equal good.
>a character being stupid isn't a problem
lol
Making characters temporarily stupid in order to force the plot in a particular direction is Bad Writing 101. There are lots of stupid people in the world that do stupid things, so while it might be realistic for a character to be stupid, that doesn't mean it's good writing. Realistic does not automatically equal good.
| @Daroman A character being TEMPORARILY stupid in order for the plot to go on is bad writing. But eren has always been a hot head idiot who's solution to every problem was "kill the enemies". Stupidity being a sign of bad writing only applies when the author actively dumbs down the character or makes them do something comically idiotic. which is not the case here. eren's solution being killing 80% humanity is perfectly in character. the only out of character thing is how he admits all of it, which was because of how open he was in that conversation. its eren's true side without any of the masks, so he doesn't hide his own flaws. |
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@Daroman
A character being TEMPORARILY stupid in order for the plot to go on is bad writing.
But eren has always been a hot head idiot who's solution to every problem was "kill the enemies".
Stupidity being a sign of bad writing only applies when the author actively dumbs down the character or makes them do something comically idiotic.
which is not the case here.
eren's solution being killing 80% humanity is perfectly in character.
the only out of character thing is how he admits all of it, which was because of how open he was in that conversation.
its eren's true side without any of the masks, so he doesn't hide his own flaws.
A character being TEMPORARILY stupid in order for the plot to go on is bad writing.
But eren has always been a hot head idiot who's solution to every problem was "kill the enemies".
Stupidity being a sign of bad writing only applies when the author actively dumbs down the character or makes them do something comically idiotic.
which is not the case here.
eren's solution being killing 80% humanity is perfectly in character.
the only out of character thing is how he admits all of it, which was because of how open he was in that conversation.
its eren's true side without any of the masks, so he doesn't hide his own flaws.
| @APolygons2 I would say that Eren was very clearly shown to have developed as a character (Y'know, what you kind of want your main cast members to do over the course of a story, it's kind of a hallmark of good writing) and become someone that clearly isn't just an "idiot" considering he successfully executes on multiple plans while also developing a more nuanced worldview (His conversation with Reiner in the basement where he sees Reiner's perspective and admits that they're the same, losing his hatred of Titans, recognizing the humanity of the people outside the walls as evidenced by his breakdown in front of Ramzi, etc), but hey, that was all fake character development because he just adopted a facade, a persona. Never mind that his internal monologues accessible by nobody but the audience are in line with this supposedly fake and totally not real character development, clearly the character development wasn't real and our protagonist never changed over the course of the story, and this is obviously a good thing and a brilliant piece of writing on the part of Isayama. It's bad when your protagonist has real character development and changes over the course of your story, and it's good when they never actually change at all. I mean, thank god we didn't have any real and interesting moral dilemmas or anything like that. The main character was just a dumbass and picked a dumb solution! Bravo, Isayama. Peak fiction. |
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I would say that Eren was very clearly shown to have developed as a character (Y'know, what you kind of want your main cast members to do over the course of a story, it's kind of a hallmark of good writing) and become someone that clearly isn't just an "idiot" considering he successfully executes on multiple plans while also developing a more nuanced worldview (His conversation with Reiner in the basement where he sees Reiner's perspective and admits that they're the same, losing his hatred of Titans, recognizing the humanity of the people outside the walls as evidenced by his breakdown in front of Ramzi, etc), but hey, that was all fake character development because he just adopted a facade, a persona.
Never mind that his internal monologues accessible by nobody but the audience are in line with this supposedly fake and totally not real character development, clearly the character development wasn't real and our protagonist never changed over the course of the story, and this is obviously a good thing and a brilliant piece of writing on the part of Isayama. It's bad when your protagonist has real character development and changes over the course of your story, and it's good when they never actually change at all.
I mean, thank god we didn't have any real and interesting moral dilemmas or anything like that. The main character was just a dumbass and picked a dumb solution!
Bravo, Isayama. Peak fiction.
I would say that Eren was very clearly shown to have developed as a character (Y'know, what you kind of want your main cast members to do over the course of a story, it's kind of a hallmark of good writing) and become someone that clearly isn't just an "idiot" considering he successfully executes on multiple plans while also developing a more nuanced worldview (His conversation with Reiner in the basement where he sees Reiner's perspective and admits that they're the same, losing his hatred of Titans, recognizing the humanity of the people outside the walls as evidenced by his breakdown in front of Ramzi, etc), but hey, that was all fake character development because he just adopted a facade, a persona.
Never mind that his internal monologues accessible by nobody but the audience are in line with this supposedly fake and totally not real character development, clearly the character development wasn't real and our protagonist never changed over the course of the story, and this is obviously a good thing and a brilliant piece of writing on the part of Isayama. It's bad when your protagonist has real character development and changes over the course of your story, and it's good when they never actually change at all.
I mean, thank god we didn't have any real and interesting moral dilemmas or anything like that. The main character was just a dumbass and picked a dumb solution!
Bravo, Isayama. Peak fiction.
Daroman said: I mean, thank god we didn't have any real and interesting moral dilemmas or anything like that. The main character was just a dumbass and picked a dumb solution! This is why Everyone think anime fans don't have media literacy. Eren has developed as a character, he has made plans, but ultimately he is still a dumbass. A "face" that someone puts up, is not a façade, nor is it a persona. You have a face when you are with family, another when you are with friends. outside the places where he straight up lies like the mikasa conversation, he is putting up a face. He has developed as a character. The mere fact that he understands the concept of "being an dumb ass who got himself too much power" is a sign of self awareness. S1 eren, would never have realized that in a million years. There is nonce to his character. but the problem is, apparently nowadays people want characters to be this perfectly straight forward things that their arcs only goes from point A to point B. The moment a character is confused, questioning their own actions, and self aware about their mistakes, it's suddenly poor writing. you don't have to take eveything at face value, when eren says he did it because he is stupid, that doesn't mean it's necessarily the entire story. again, S1 eren would NEVER admit something like that, not even to himself. Him saying that is a sign maturity and self awareness, it doesn't make his calculated moves incorrect. The delima that he had to go through still exists, him calling himself an idiot doesn't take any of it away. Everything that happened still did happen, and it still was eren. you are simplifying him, because that makes it so extremely easy to point holes at characters like this. Is It perfectly pulled off? No, I have definitely seen complex characters be done better, but the way you complain about it, makes it seem like you don't understand what his character was even meant to be. |
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APolygons2 said:
@Confused_100 I don't think any of these are a problem
a character being stupid, killing off the best character, a different character having a better plan...
none of these are "problems"
@Confused_100 I don't think any of these are a problem
a character being stupid, killing off the best character, a different character having a better plan...
none of these are "problems"
But that’s not the point of criticism. The point is he put a character in a situation where he actually wasn’t as forced as he makes it out to be. If it was written in a way that actually says “Wow he actually had no other choice” then cool but no, it was written in a stupid way. That’s my point.
Compare this kind of writing compared to rest of series. This is why the ending is mid.
Confused_100 said: The point is he put a character in a situation where he actually wasn’t as forced as he makes it out to be. nothing says eren was forced to do this. He chose this. Yes he said every other outcome also led to war.... but that's not saying much. of course it did. He wasn't forced. the show doesn't make it seem like he was forced either. eren did it, because this plan had the best possible outcome for the people he cared about specifically. |
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I'll give my opinions on why I thought the ending was bad, but if you check the score I gave it, it's 7. Here's why:
First thing, the ending isn't all bad. I was enjoying it, even though it wasn't my favorite part of the series (being everything from Kenny to the beginning of the rumble). Up to the point where they're fighting Eren, it's a solid 8/10. When Armin has the vision with Eren, I begun thinking it was bad for a few reasons.
Trying to make the viewer feel sorry for Eren at a point in the story where he has killed 80% of humanity doesn't work. It's obvious he wasn't all evil before the rumbling, but after season 3's ending, Isayama did quite a good job building Eren up to be an antagonist that has "good reasons" but does bad things because he think he's justified. That's good, that's great. Then, right at the ending, Eren starts crying like "ooohhhh i didnt want to do it 😭😭😭 i saw every future but it always ended on war so i thought that killing 80% of humanity was good so i could make you guys the heroes and then have you kill me like get me off of here man i dont want to deal with this anymore im just dumb lmao also sorry for killing you guys 😭😭😭".
Like... what? That's such a bad turn of events at the worst possible time it's just funny. Even worse, the characters act like Eren wasn't all bad he just didn't know what to do. Like he was a tiny bit justified. For Mikasa, this works, she was alredy crazy for him, that's understandable. For Armin? Not so much, but ok, I can make that stretch. Now, for all the rest? Jean? Connie? FUCKING LEVI? Levi quite literally saw Erwin die because of Eren, then saw Hange die because of Eren, and he was like "ok maybe he wasn't that bad, he's just stupid...". I mean, what the fuck?
The rushed "development" or "reason explaining" Eren does at the end was what made me dislike the thing at the end. It's not natural, it isn't good, it's hilariously bad. It's like Isayama thought he couldn't just make Eren a complex character by making he go the deep end and become a genocidal maniac so he made Eren feel bad for what he did but he had no choice to do otherwise. This is another problem.
Eren said he gave up because he tried countless futures and none worked. Ok, understandable, that's human nature and war's hardly going anywhere anytime soon. So why didn't Eren ask for Hange's help? Or Armin's? Or for anyone's help? You telling me he's all good telling his powers to Floch so he can kill 80% of humanity, but talking to his friends about his future seeing powers is a no go? Like wtf. It doesn't make any sense.
Another reason the ending was bad was the scene where Eren told he killed his mother because otherwise Bertolt would die. That was just funny. Out of nowhere and for no reason at all besides making the reader be like poor Eren he was """"forced""""" to kill his mom :(
Besides that? The ending was good. Eren loyalists still exist, people hate eldians because of Eren, but Armin and our bros will still try to make peace a thing. And Mikasa became a celibate because no Eren for her anymore. Anything that had to do with Eren and his motives and the characters trying to make it even slightly ok was bad.
That's what I thought of it, basically.
First thing, the ending isn't all bad. I was enjoying it, even though it wasn't my favorite part of the series (being everything from Kenny to the beginning of the rumble). Up to the point where they're fighting Eren, it's a solid 8/10. When Armin has the vision with Eren, I begun thinking it was bad for a few reasons.
Trying to make the viewer feel sorry for Eren at a point in the story where he has killed 80% of humanity doesn't work. It's obvious he wasn't all evil before the rumbling, but after season 3's ending, Isayama did quite a good job building Eren up to be an antagonist that has "good reasons" but does bad things because he think he's justified. That's good, that's great. Then, right at the ending, Eren starts crying like "ooohhhh i didnt want to do it 😭😭😭 i saw every future but it always ended on war so i thought that killing 80% of humanity was good so i could make you guys the heroes and then have you kill me like get me off of here man i dont want to deal with this anymore im just dumb lmao also sorry for killing you guys 😭😭😭".
Like... what? That's such a bad turn of events at the worst possible time it's just funny. Even worse, the characters act like Eren wasn't all bad he just didn't know what to do. Like he was a tiny bit justified. For Mikasa, this works, she was alredy crazy for him, that's understandable. For Armin? Not so much, but ok, I can make that stretch. Now, for all the rest? Jean? Connie? FUCKING LEVI? Levi quite literally saw Erwin die because of Eren, then saw Hange die because of Eren, and he was like "ok maybe he wasn't that bad, he's just stupid...". I mean, what the fuck?
The rushed "development" or "reason explaining" Eren does at the end was what made me dislike the thing at the end. It's not natural, it isn't good, it's hilariously bad. It's like Isayama thought he couldn't just make Eren a complex character by making he go the deep end and become a genocidal maniac so he made Eren feel bad for what he did but he had no choice to do otherwise. This is another problem.
Eren said he gave up because he tried countless futures and none worked. Ok, understandable, that's human nature and war's hardly going anywhere anytime soon. So why didn't Eren ask for Hange's help? Or Armin's? Or for anyone's help? You telling me he's all good telling his powers to Floch so he can kill 80% of humanity, but talking to his friends about his future seeing powers is a no go? Like wtf. It doesn't make any sense.
Another reason the ending was bad was the scene where Eren told he killed his mother because otherwise Bertolt would die. That was just funny. Out of nowhere and for no reason at all besides making the reader be like poor Eren he was """"forced""""" to kill his mom :(
Besides that? The ending was good. Eren loyalists still exist, people hate eldians because of Eren, but Armin and our bros will still try to make peace a thing. And Mikasa became a celibate because no Eren for her anymore. Anything that had to do with Eren and his motives and the characters trying to make it even slightly ok was bad.
That's what I thought of it, basically.
| @theMario3721 I feel the same way you do. There is plenty I like about the ending but much of what you highlighted plus a few other things just really left me with mixed feelings. |
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APolygons2 said:
nothing says eren was forced to do this. He chose this.
Yes he said every other outcome also led to war.... but that's not saying much. of course it did.
He wasn't forced. the show doesn't make it seem like he was forced either.
eren did it, because this plan had the best possible outcome for the people he cared about specifically.
Confused_100 said:
The point is he put a character in a situation where he actually wasn’t as forced as he makes it out to be.
The point is he put a character in a situation where he actually wasn’t as forced as he makes it out to be.
nothing says eren was forced to do this. He chose this.
Yes he said every other outcome also led to war.... but that's not saying much. of course it did.
He wasn't forced. the show doesn't make it seem like he was forced either.
eren did it, because this plan had the best possible outcome for the people he cared about specifically.
So he killed his mom on purpose. Wow now that’s uncharacteristic
| @Confused_100 He did, because the other option would have lead to bertholt dying which would mess up his entire plan. and you can see how his choice ate at him, and he beats himself over if it was the right choice or not. that whole scene like many others like was trying to show that eren does feel guilt over the shit he did to reach this outcome, even if he "keeps moving forward" despite of that. It was the same when sasha died, it was the same in the convo with the young boy. he's been doing shit he feels guilt over since the start of s4 and there are a good number of scenes where that guilt slips through. |
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| A lot of things didn't really felt organic after the basement, that's my biggest problem with how the writing went. This whole thing with saving Bertholt and killing his Mom, you can tell that it was a decision made well into the future of the series, instead of natural feeling writing, I got immersion breaking twists that I could see Isayama trying to paste into his detailed story, like forcing a jigsaw piece to fit where it shouldn't. I think the series got a little too big for it's boots, it got slightly out of control and Isayama couldn't keep it up after the 3rd season. This is all my opinion and how I felt as a viewer, a lot of others won't have any problems with the believability of events. |
| It felt like the worst ending to me. Everything went exactly as Eren predicted so the future can't be changed, all their work was for nothing, 80% of the world still died, Eren still died, Mikasa was still forced to kill him. Sure it gets rid of the titans but Zeke's plan did the same thing without all the extra damage and it at least lets Eren live out his last 4 years with Mikasa. Or the Paradis military's plan to just use a limited rumbling and probably nobody touches them for the next 50 years. They might need to transfer Eren's titan over to someone but Historia and her children can just chill until the rumbling is needed again assuming it ever is. I was expecting Eren's 3rd option plan to be something better. Not literally the worst thing I could think of. You can say it subverts expectations by not subverting them at all (Eren does exactly what he said he was going to do and the other characters kill him exactly like they kept saying they had to) but I just don't like it. I probably never will. |
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i liked it except the part aftwr where the kid finds the tree
the part where it shows that in future humans still fight even if titan powers are no longer is to show that humans no matter what will always find a way to fight for some reason or another but the kid finding the tree.. put me off so mich aot was amazing i loved every part of it but seeing how this kid can bring back titan powers just beacuse when eren did all that sound silly to me
the part where it shows that in future humans still fight even if titan powers are no longer is to show that humans no matter what will always find a way to fight for some reason or another but the kid finding the tree.. put me off so mich aot was amazing i loved every part of it but seeing how this kid can bring back titan powers just beacuse when eren did all that sound silly to me
| @AndrwsAnimeList I'm very curious as to why that very extremely inoffensive moment put you off so much... genuinely curious. |
| why |
| The logistics just don't make sense to me. Eren's motivations- he committed to the Rumbling because of his deterministic view and the compulsion to just do it for "that view". Cool... so he's a genocidal maniac. But also the story paints a sympathy angle over him because he cares about his friends and Mikasa. I genuinely couldn't care less about Eren at that point because again he's just a maniac when you get down to it. Shelfing Historia- still salty to this day with that. She's the one who had a ton of parallels to Ymir. NOT Mikasa whose whole theme of love was so forced and last minute. When did that become the main theme of the story? Tbh, I don't hate the ending. I just think the execution was mediocre as hell and I'm kinda left empty watching it. Still gave it a 8 because the anime fixed some stuff, animation is cool, and the music is nice. |
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| I thought the ending was fine. I kinda see what it was going for. Could it have been executed better? Absolutely. Was it a disaster? not really for me but I can definitely see what people are getting at on why it's bad. Maybe cuz I never really thought of AoT as sort of like this masterpiece of fiction or something. Like this series overall was just good at times great for me, so I didn't really expect the ending to change my life or anything like that. Still waaaaaay better than Code Geass though |
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