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May 9, 2023 12:19 AM
#1
A couple of years ago, Amazon banned the sale of a rather impressive list of LNs, deeming them sexualizing children and containing vulgar content. Mostly because of loli or imouto content. Now Amazon has banned the sale of a number of old action figures from old shows like the regular Kagami action figures from Lucky Sttar, claiming that they either exploit children or sexualize them ("children" also refer to "looking like children" characters). What do you think? Is this justified within the current framework, or is it still an overreaching act of the moral guardians? |
May 9, 2023 12:31 AM
#2
>Selling perfectly fine goods in making of which not a single child participated in. The horror! >Overworking and underpaying your employees while simultaneously running smaller competitors out of business. Now we're talking baby. |
May 9, 2023 2:20 AM
#3
It's just a big company trying to keep its reputation together. That's their decision and if I'm not okay with that then I can refuse to buy from them. As to whether or not such materials sexualize minors, I think most of us would agree that this is not true as there are no real minors involved, or any other real people for that matter. That tends to be what us weebs agree on. |
May 9, 2023 2:28 AM
#4
Jeff bozo looks more like a pedophile than any anime characters tbh... He was a regular visitor to epstein island |
May 9, 2023 3:05 AM
#5
That's what happens when you give a single company too much money and power. I stopped using Amazon long ago, their service is pathetic anyway and half their products have botted reviews. Better to support smaller businesses in your own county, or if it's related to anime just import it. Yes it will be more expensive but at least you are supporting the anime industry directly and aren't the cuckold of some billionaire. |
May 9, 2023 7:34 AM
#6
The only source I could find for this is an article on Bounding into Comics, a site which doesn't have a good reputation. And said article is based on the tweets of a single person. A company like Amazon can remove items from their website for any reason they deem fit, which of course doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good reason. And if the reason is what the article claims, then it's in most cases because of changes in legislation rather than a company taking issue with items. |
May 9, 2023 7:46 AM
#7
At "Amazon banned the sale of a rather impressive list of LNs" I suddenly lost interest. "What do you think?" Couldn't care less for LNs and figures. |
May 9, 2023 7:50 AM
#8
RobertBobert said: Since when a shop has to "justify" what products they are selling? How is this decision "moral"? And how is Amazon "continuing to attack anime products", they ban all sort of stuff and anime is just a fraction of that. They do not target or attack anime any more than they ban the sale of swastikas, don't ship to Russia due to sanctions, or sell pictures of naked penises.Is this justified within the current framework, or is it still an overreaching act of the moral guardians? I see a lot of hyperventilating and hot air in this posting, but no substance. Amazon reports to nobody but their share holders and the anti-trust authorities. |
inimMay 9, 2023 7:53 AM
May 9, 2023 7:57 AM
#9
Ah yes, the upholder of morals, Amazon decides to punish a victimless hobby. |
May 9, 2023 8:40 AM
#10
It's funny how people are trying to destroy this kind of product as hard as they can, but not trying to help real kids with real problems like child pregnancy or rape,I don't see as much effort in this as there is to destroy characters that don't even exist. How sad. |
May 9, 2023 8:47 AM
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May 9, 2023 9:41 AM
#12
TheBigGuy said: So you're suggesting that the manufacturer is lying about Amazon banning its Japanese figurines and faking Amazon's messages about it? And yes, the "they're not marauders, they're looters" excuses lost their meaning on day one.The only source I could find for this is an article on Bounding into Comics, a site which doesn't have a good reputation. And said article is based on the tweets of a single person. A company like Amazon can remove items from their website for any reason they deem fit, which of course doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good reason. And if the reason is what the article claims, then it's in most cases because of changes in legislation rather than a company taking issue with items. |
May 9, 2023 9:44 AM
#13
source: trust me bro I just checked and Lucky Star figures as well as bluray are available for purchase. Same with oreimo figures and bluray. |
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May 9, 2023 9:48 AM
#14
DreamingBeats said: May I know where in my comment I talked about banning all products from Lucky Star and where did I even mention Oreimo?source: trust me bro I just checked and Lucky Star figures as well as bluray are available for purchase. Same with oreimo figures and bluray. |
May 9, 2023 9:54 AM
#15
RobertBobert said: DreamingBeats said: May I know where in my comment I talked about banning all products from Lucky Star and where did I even mention Oreimo?source: trust me bro I just checked and Lucky Star figures as well as bluray are available for purchase. Same with oreimo figures and bluray. RobertBobert said: Amazon banned the sale of a rather impressive list of LNs, deeming them sexualizing children and containing vulgar content. Mostly because of loli or imouto content. "because of loli or imouto content" well, oreimo has imouto characters - it's quite literally in the name of the show! |
You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/. The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish. Show your support to your favorite artist if you can! ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name. For those who want to learn Japanese through anime Resources for learning the language |
May 9, 2023 9:57 AM
#16
DreamingBeats said: Yeah....in a sentence that they banned the LN series a couple of years ago. Without mentioning names and with a clear indication of LN, not anime or merch. Once again, you so badly wanted to answer at least something that you completely inattentively read my comment and got into a mess.RobertBobert said: DreamingBeats said: source: trust me bro I just checked and Lucky Star figures as well as bluray are available for purchase. Same with oreimo figures and bluray. RobertBobert said: Amazon banned the sale of a rather impressive list of LNs, deeming them sexualizing children and containing vulgar content. Mostly because of loli or imouto content. "because of loli or imouto content" well, oreimo has imouto characters - it's quite literally in the name of the show! |
May 9, 2023 10:04 AM
#17
I think that's it's definitely within their right to sell or not sell whatever they want. If they deem it to be "sexualizing children" then don't buy from them. There are still tons of anime that even show "loli" nudity sold directly by them, like Strike Witches. I wouldn't say they are "attacking anime products" like you have in your title, though. I find that Amazon has some of the best deals when buying anime, so they clearly support the industry in some way at least. At the end of the day, there are other options to buying figures other than Amazon, so if they don't have what you're looking for, just shop elsewhere. |
May 9, 2023 10:08 AM
#18
RobertBobert said: Without mentioning names and with a clear indication of LN, not anime or merch. Once again, you so badly wanted to answer at least something that you completely inattentively read my comment and got into a mess. So let me get this straight. Amazon is banning light novels containing loli and imouto content because they think it's "vulgar", while still selling the bluray and anime figures and even selling the art book of oreimo with a very suggestive cover? did i get this right..? The light novels of oreimo are listed on Amazon US, mind you. You can't buy them because it's out of print. correction: you can't buy directly from Amazon, but you can buy from 3rd party sellers. |
You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/. The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish. Show your support to your favorite artist if you can! ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name. For those who want to learn Japanese through anime Resources for learning the language |
May 9, 2023 10:09 AM
#19
If true this has 0 impact on me since i get most my LN and manga off bookwalker and google books. However, i've seen no evidence of amazon banning them i can also still get my touhou fumo's and statues from them. which are probably the hardest things to buy in the west since you can't get them locally unlike most other anime figures that can be picked up at local stores I got a aqua(konosuba.) bikini statue from gamestop for crying out load, but my tenshi statue i had to literally get from amazon because they never shipped it from my local retail store despite having it preordered. only other thing if true this would affect is audible, but seeing as you can still get the audio books for monogatari there I'm not sure about your claim. it's also possible that the Kagami statue you mentioned was just a limited edition one and the company themselves pulled it. |
GrimAtramentMay 9, 2023 10:13 AM
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
May 9, 2023 10:09 AM
#20
CyberSpeek said: You still don't understand that the problem is that they ban products that not only don't sexualize children, but don't even think of them as something vulgar?I think that's it's definitely within their right to sell or not sell whatever they want. If they deem it to be "sexualizing children" then don't buy from them. There are still tons of anime that even show "loli" nudity sold directly by them, like Strike Witches. I wouldn't say they are "attacking anime products" like you have in your title, though. I find that Amazon has some of the best deals when buying anime, so they clearly support the industry in some way at least. At the end of the day, there are other options to buying figures other than Amazon, so if they don't have what you're looking for, just shop elsewhere. |
May 9, 2023 10:13 AM
#21
DreamingBeats said: Please show me where my comment suggests they banned ALL imouto or loli content. And how does the art book relate to LN. I understand that you really need to justify your clumsy argument, but you are starting to play with my patience.RobertBobert said: Without mentioning names and with a clear indication of LN, not anime or merch. Once again, you so badly wanted to answer at least something that you completely inattentively read my comment and got into a mess. So let me get this straight. Amazon is banning light novels containing loli and imouto content because they think it's "vulgar", while still selling the bluray and anime figures and even selling the art book of oreimo with a very suggestive cover? did i get this right..? The light novels are listed on Amazon US, mind you. You can't buy them because it's out of print. GrimAtrament said: https://boundingintocomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/2023.04.27-02.16-boundingintocomics-6449daedaf3ce.jpgIf true this has 0 impact on me since i get most my LN and manga off bookwalker and google books. However, i've seen no evidence of amazon banning them i can also still get my touhou fumo's and statues from them. which are probably the hardest things to buy in the west since you can't get them locally unlike most other anime figures that can be picked up at local stores I got a aqua(konosuba.) bikini statue from gamestop for crying out load, but my tenshi statue i had to literally get from amazon because they never shipped it from my local retail store despite having it preordered. |
May 9, 2023 10:14 AM
#22
RobertBobert said: DreamingBeats said: Please show me where my comment suggests they banned ALL imouto or loli content. And how does the art book relate to LN. I understand that you really need to justify your clumsy argument, but you are starting to play with my patience.RobertBobert said: Without mentioning names and with a clear indication of LN, not anime or merch. Once again, you so badly wanted to answer at least something that you completely inattentively read my comment and got into a mess. So let me get this straight. Amazon is banning light novels containing loli and imouto content because they think it's "vulgar", while still selling the bluray and anime figures and even selling the art book of oreimo with a very suggestive cover? did i get this right..? The light novels are listed on Amazon US, mind you. You can't buy them because it's out of print. GrimAtrament said: https://boundingintocomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/2023.04.27-02.16-boundingintocomics-6449daedaf3ce.jpgIf true this has 0 impact on me since i get most my LN and manga off bookwalker and google books. However, i've seen no evidence of amazon banning them i can also still get my touhou fumo's and statues from them. which are probably the hardest things to buy in the west since you can't get them locally unlike most other anime figures that can be picked up at local stores I got a aqua(konosuba.) bikini statue from gamestop for crying out load, but my tenshi statue i had to literally get from amazon because they never shipped it from my local retail store despite having it preordered. a screenshot of a twitter post of a blury amazon message that could be saying anything.... |
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
May 9, 2023 10:17 AM
#23
RobertBobert said: Please show me where my comment suggests they banned ALL imouto or loli content. "no no they didn't ban *all* imouto or loli content, only series like lucky star" even though they sell the bluray, merch and you can still buy the manga via 3rd party sellers? don't think lucky star has a light novel. if you can't find the product on Amazon, chances are, the product was discontinued or the publisher decided to not sell on Amazon for whatever reason. occam's razor, anyone? you claim that Amazon are banning products....while showing literal zero evidence. |
You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/. The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish. Show your support to your favorite artist if you can! ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name. For those who want to learn Japanese through anime Resources for learning the language |
May 9, 2023 10:18 AM
#24
RobertBobert said: No, I completely get you. There are a lot of problems with how things are sold on there, but I'm just saying that you don't HAVE to shop on Amazon to find said products. They're still widely available elsewhere. But I do get your issue. CyberSpeek said: You still don't understand that the problem is that they ban products that not only don't sexualize children, but don't even think of them as something vulgar?I think that's it's definitely within their right to sell or not sell whatever they want. If they deem it to be "sexualizing children" then don't buy from them. There are still tons of anime that even show "loli" nudity sold directly by them, like Strike Witches. I wouldn't say they are "attacking anime products" like you have in your title, though. I find that Amazon has some of the best deals when buying anime, so they clearly support the industry in some way at least. At the end of the day, there are other options to buying figures other than Amazon, so if they don't have what you're looking for, just shop elsewhere. |
May 9, 2023 10:21 AM
#25
DreamingBeats said: RobertBobert said: Please show me where my comment suggests they banned ALL imouto or loli content. "no no they didn't ban *all* imouto or loli content, only series like lucky star" even though they sell the bluray, merch and you can still buy the manga via 3rd party sellers? don't think lucky star has a light novel. if you can't find the product on Amazon, chances are, the product was discontinued or the publisher decided to not sell on Amazon for whatever reason. occam's razor, anyone? you claim that Amazon are banning products....while showing literal zero evidence. what lucky star has a LN https://www.amazon.com/stores/Kagami-Yoshimizu/author/B0036CSJNY?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true it's also still being sold. also that figma is still being sold. are you absolutely sure that message wasn't about the cancellation due to being out of stock? @RobertBobert https://www.amazon.com/Max-Factory-Lucky-Star-Hiiragi/dp/B001BN0U8M |
GrimAtramentMay 9, 2023 10:24 AM
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
May 9, 2023 10:22 AM
#26
don't get me wrong, there are plenty of reasons to hate Amazon - in particular the way they treat their employees. however, the argument that Amazon are purposefully banning loli and imouto light novels because they think it's "vulgar" is on very shaky ground considering that they sell related merchandise without an issue. they also have no issue selling the ln of oreimo on their platform via 3rd party sellers, further weakening your argument. edit: thanks @GrimAtrament. i stand corrected. so there is a light novel and it is available on amazon. |
You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/. The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish. Show your support to your favorite artist if you can! ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name. For those who want to learn Japanese through anime Resources for learning the language |
May 9, 2023 10:24 AM
#27
DreamingBeats said: So, you continue to desperately grossly distort my words in the hope that turning them into a scarecrow will help justify your clumsy comment. Sorry, my patience is not infinite and I will still be forced to add you to the ignore list. I don't have much time to waste on people who are desperately trying to make excuses for bad arguments. And not for the first time.RobertBobert said: Please show me where my comment suggests they banned ALL imouto or loli content. "no no they didn't ban *all* imouto or loli content, only series like lucky star" even though they sell the bluray, merch and you can still buy the manga via 3rd party sellers? don't think lucky star has a light novel. if you can't find the product on Amazon, chances are, the product was discontinued or the publisher decided to not sell on Amazon for whatever reason. occam's razor, anyone? you claim that Amazon are banning products....while showing literal zero evidence. CyberSpeek said: If I needed content like this, I wouldn't even think about mainstream sites like Amazon. But in this case, they even complain about completely pure content.RobertBobert said: No, I completely get you. There are a lot of problems with how things are sold on there, but I'm just saying that you don't HAVE to shop on Amazon to find said products. They're still widely available elsewhere. But I do get your issue. CyberSpeek said: I think that's it's definitely within their right to sell or not sell whatever they want. If they deem it to be "sexualizing children" then don't buy from them. There are still tons of anime that even show "loli" nudity sold directly by them, like Strike Witches. I wouldn't say they are "attacking anime products" like you have in your title, though. I find that Amazon has some of the best deals when buying anime, so they clearly support the industry in some way at least. At the end of the day, there are other options to buying figures other than Amazon, so if they don't have what you're looking for, just shop elsewhere. GrimAtrament said: You do realize that you can find the original tweet and open the suggested screenshot to read it, right?RobertBobert said: DreamingBeats said: RobertBobert said: Without mentioning names and with a clear indication of LN, not anime or merch. Once again, you so badly wanted to answer at least something that you completely inattentively read my comment and got into a mess. So let me get this straight. Amazon is banning light novels containing loli and imouto content because they think it's "vulgar", while still selling the bluray and anime figures and even selling the art book of oreimo with a very suggestive cover? did i get this right..? The light novels are listed on Amazon US, mind you. You can't buy them because it's out of print. GrimAtrament said: If true this has 0 impact on me since i get most my LN and manga off bookwalker and google books. However, i've seen no evidence of amazon banning them i can also still get my touhou fumo's and statues from them. which are probably the hardest things to buy in the west since you can't get them locally unlike most other anime figures that can be picked up at local stores I got a aqua(konosuba.) bikini statue from gamestop for crying out load, but my tenshi statue i had to literally get from amazon because they never shipped it from my local retail store despite having it preordered. a screenshot of a twitter post of a blury amazon message that could be saying anything.... |
May 9, 2023 10:25 AM
#28
RobertBobert said: DreamingBeats said: So, you continue to desperately grossly distort my words in the hope that turning them into a scarecrow will help justify your clumsy comment. Sorry, my patience is not infinite and I will still be forced to add you to the ignore list. I don't have much time to waste on people who are desperately trying to make excuses for bad arguments. And not for the first time.RobertBobert said: Please show me where my comment suggests they banned ALL imouto or loli content. "no no they didn't ban *all* imouto or loli content, only series like lucky star" even though they sell the bluray, merch and you can still buy the manga via 3rd party sellers? don't think lucky star has a light novel. if you can't find the product on Amazon, chances are, the product was discontinued or the publisher decided to not sell on Amazon for whatever reason. occam's razor, anyone? you claim that Amazon are banning products....while showing literal zero evidence. CyberSpeek said: If I needed content like this, I wouldn't even think about mainstream sites like Amazon. But in this case, they even complain about completely pure content.RobertBobert said: CyberSpeek said: You still don't understand that the problem is that they ban products that not only don't sexualize children, but don't even think of them as something vulgar?I think that's it's definitely within their right to sell or not sell whatever they want. If they deem it to be "sexualizing children" then don't buy from them. There are still tons of anime that even show "loli" nudity sold directly by them, like Strike Witches. I wouldn't say they are "attacking anime products" like you have in your title, though. I find that Amazon has some of the best deals when buying anime, so they clearly support the industry in some way at least. At the end of the day, there are other options to buying figures other than Amazon, so if they don't have what you're looking for, just shop elsewhere. GrimAtrament said: You do realize that you can find the original tweet and open the suggested screenshot to read it, right?RobertBobert said: DreamingBeats said: Please show me where my comment suggests they banned ALL imouto or loli content. And how does the art book relate to LN. I understand that you really need to justify your clumsy argument, but you are starting to play with my patience.RobertBobert said: Without mentioning names and with a clear indication of LN, not anime or merch. Once again, you so badly wanted to answer at least something that you completely inattentively read my comment and got into a mess. So let me get this straight. Amazon is banning light novels containing loli and imouto content because they think it's "vulgar", while still selling the bluray and anime figures and even selling the art book of oreimo with a very suggestive cover? did i get this right..? The light novels are listed on Amazon US, mind you. You can't buy them because it's out of print. GrimAtrament said: https://boundingintocomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/2023.04.27-02.16-boundingintocomics-6449daedaf3ce.jpgIf true this has 0 impact on me since i get most my LN and manga off bookwalker and google books. However, i've seen no evidence of amazon banning them i can also still get my touhou fumo's and statues from them. which are probably the hardest things to buy in the west since you can't get them locally unlike most other anime figures that can be picked up at local stores I got a aqua(konosuba.) bikini statue from gamestop for crying out load, but my tenshi statue i had to literally get from amazon because they never shipped it from my local retail store despite having it preordered. a screenshot of a twitter post of a blury amazon message that could be saying anything.... cool, so why didn't you do that? I just found the statue in the screenshot and it's still available on amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Max-Factory-Lucky-Star-Hiiragi/dp/B001BN0U8M not to mention a kannan one as well https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QMG7NV5/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?pd_rd_i=B07QMG7NV5&pd_rd_w=n86LL&content-id=amzn1.sym.eb7c1ac5-7c51-4df5-ba34-ca810f1f119a&pf_rd_p=eb7c1ac5-7c51-4df5-ba34-ca810f1f119a&pf_rd_r=AVY0S3WVJAWRZ78RPJSJ&pd_rd_wg=7aSFQ&pd_rd_r=ff7580aa-5976-468f-97bb-d88503fda1ae&s=toys-and-games&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWw&th=1 |
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
May 9, 2023 10:25 AM
#29
GrimAtrament said: Show me where I talked about banning Lucky Star LN or all Lucky Star products.DreamingBeats said: RobertBobert said: Please show me where my comment suggests they banned ALL imouto or loli content. "no no they didn't ban *all* imouto or loli content, only series like lucky star" even though they sell the bluray, merch and you can still buy the manga via 3rd party sellers? don't think lucky star has a light novel. if you can't find the product on Amazon, chances are, the product was discontinued or the publisher decided to not sell on Amazon for whatever reason. occam's razor, anyone? you claim that Amazon are banning products....while showing literal zero evidence. what lucky star has a LN https://www.amazon.com/stores/Kagami-Yoshimizu/author/B0036CSJNY?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true it's also still being sold. also that figma is still being sold. are you absolutely sure that message wasn't about the cancellation due to being out of stock? @RobertBobert https://www.amazon.com/Max-Factory-Lucky-Star-Hiiragi/dp/B001BN0U8M |
May 9, 2023 10:29 AM
#30
still waiting for the supposed evidence that Amazon is deliberately banning products on their platform. of course, there is none because the entire premise here is tRuSt Me BrO. |
You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/. The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish. Show your support to your favorite artist if you can! ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name. For those who want to learn Japanese through anime Resources for learning the language |
May 9, 2023 10:29 AM
#31
RobertBobert said: GrimAtrament said: Show me where I talked about banning Lucky Star LN or all Lucky Star products.DreamingBeats said: RobertBobert said: Please show me where my comment suggests they banned ALL imouto or loli content. "no no they didn't ban *all* imouto or loli content, only series like lucky star" even though they sell the bluray, merch and you can still buy the manga via 3rd party sellers? don't think lucky star has a light novel. if you can't find the product on Amazon, chances are, the product was discontinued or the publisher decided to not sell on Amazon for whatever reason. occam's razor, anyone? you claim that Amazon are banning products....while showing literal zero evidence. what lucky star has a LN https://www.amazon.com/stores/Kagami-Yoshimizu/author/B0036CSJNY?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true it's also still being sold. also that figma is still being sold. are you absolutely sure that message wasn't about the cancellation due to being out of stock? @RobertBobert https://www.amazon.com/Max-Factory-Lucky-Star-Hiiragi/dp/B001BN0U8M Dude that is the statue i linked in the screen shot YOU POSTED as proof that amazon is taking things down like you said. it's literally still available. |
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
May 9, 2023 10:31 AM
#32
GrimAtrament said: That is, you are literally going to refute the ban of the figures from one seller by the fact that ANOTHER SELLER is still selling it. Okay, I'll just add you to the ignore list along with what dude. As I said, I don't have the time or the mood to argue for the sake of arguing in an attempt to answer at least something in any way.RobertBobert said: GrimAtrament said: DreamingBeats said: RobertBobert said: Please show me where my comment suggests they banned ALL imouto or loli content. "no no they didn't ban *all* imouto or loli content, only series like lucky star" even though they sell the bluray, merch and you can still buy the manga via 3rd party sellers? don't think lucky star has a light novel. if you can't find the product on Amazon, chances are, the product was discontinued or the publisher decided to not sell on Amazon for whatever reason. occam's razor, anyone? you claim that Amazon are banning products....while showing literal zero evidence. what lucky star has a LN https://www.amazon.com/stores/Kagami-Yoshimizu/author/B0036CSJNY?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true it's also still being sold. also that figma is still being sold. are you absolutely sure that message wasn't about the cancellation due to being out of stock? @RobertBobert https://www.amazon.com/Max-Factory-Lucky-Star-Hiiragi/dp/B001BN0U8M Dude that is the statue i linked in the screen shot YOU POSTED as proof that amazon is taking things down like you said. it's literally still available. |
May 9, 2023 10:39 AM
#33
RobertBobert said: GrimAtrament said: That is, you are literally going to refute the ban of the figures from one seller by the fact that ANOTHER SELLER is still selling it. Okay, I'll just add you to the ignore list along with what dude. As I said, I don't have the time or the mood to argue for the sake of arguing in an attempt to answer at least something in any way.RobertBobert said: GrimAtrament said: Show me where I talked about banning Lucky Star LN or all Lucky Star products.DreamingBeats said: RobertBobert said: Please show me where my comment suggests they banned ALL imouto or loli content. "no no they didn't ban *all* imouto or loli content, only series like lucky star" even though they sell the bluray, merch and you can still buy the manga via 3rd party sellers? don't think lucky star has a light novel. if you can't find the product on Amazon, chances are, the product was discontinued or the publisher decided to not sell on Amazon for whatever reason. occam's razor, anyone? you claim that Amazon are banning products....while showing literal zero evidence. what lucky star has a LN https://www.amazon.com/stores/Kagami-Yoshimizu/author/B0036CSJNY?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true it's also still being sold. also that figma is still being sold. are you absolutely sure that message wasn't about the cancellation due to being out of stock? @RobertBobert https://www.amazon.com/Max-Factory-Lucky-Star-Hiiragi/dp/B001BN0U8M Dude that is the statue i linked in the screen shot YOU POSTED as proof that amazon is taking things down like you said. it's literally still available. if your trying to make an accusation try to use sources outside twitter posts. ಠ_ಠ there could be numerous reasons the dude couldn't buy it including his state or country of origins own laws. you are putting the cart before the horse here. are you serious?! it's MAX factory it is the same seller! holy shit please what is happening here?! @TheBigGuy and that's exactly the problem here people blowing up a twitter post of a single person and acting like it's the next big controversy. people did this so much on MAL that i actually have to start asking for a legitimate source. |
GrimAtramentMay 9, 2023 10:49 AM
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
May 9, 2023 10:42 AM
#34
wait, so the entire premise comes from twitter posts? that's sad and hilarious at the same time. |
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May 9, 2023 10:46 AM
#35
DreamingBeats said: wait, so the entire premise comes from twitter posts? that's sad and hilarious at the same time. it gets even better when you find the tweet and the poster himself gets called out on the statue being still available. then claims it's "A different one then the one in the photo they posted," but if you look it up by the name he posted it is the exact one in the photo that is still available. also It's the same seller Max factory. |
GrimAtramentMay 9, 2023 11:08 AM
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
May 9, 2023 10:52 AM
#36
May 9, 2023 10:55 AM
#37
RobertBobert said: So, when you lost the opportunity to argue with me for the sake of an argument, you just start praising each other to create the appearance of "victory" in the dialogue? Ah, how predictable. It looks like someone is really taking the internet controversy way too seriously. if you think being skeptical and not jumping on bandwagon on just word of mouth is "agurgment for the sake of it." then idk it sounds like you just don't like being called out. if people took 90% of what people said online (especially twitter.) with a grain of salt there would be so much less "outrage." then their is now. “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Seriously dude I can find even more explicit stuff on amazon. how about the fact that bunny girl statue shiro from no game no life is still there that's not even the most explicit one of her on amazon. did amazon make a statement they would be taking down anime statues? Now that would be more credible then someone whos probably just trying to get twitter clout. legit you are doing the goal post shift. several people ask you for source or evidence and point out they can still find most the product you mentioned as being banned. you provide us with not the actual tweet, but an image of the tweet. please understand how suspicious that makes it look. then when I find the actual product in question you say "oh but the seller is different." but then I point out that It is the same seller. now you are arguing that I'm just arguing for the sake of it. |
GrimAtramentMay 9, 2023 11:16 AM
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
May 9, 2023 11:01 AM
#38
Sorry, the attempt to portray a skeptic and a reasonable thinker in an attempt to justify biased intentions in an argument for the sake of an argument is no less predictable. Only even more hypocritical, because you are trying to justify biased behavior with freethinking. Okay, I'm just going to stop answering even like this, otherwise it'll just turn into an endless attempt to have the last word. Keep trying to justify your bias guys. The flag is in your hands. |
May 9, 2023 11:22 AM
#39
May 9, 2023 11:28 AM
#40
MadanielFL said: Thats's why Rightstuff the GOAT no cap! Although some people said they were going to boycott Rightstuff due to a certain orange company... crunchyroll? only anime related company i can think of that uses orange in it's signage. |
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
May 9, 2023 11:29 AM
#41
If I'm not mistaken, it's the credit card companies that are censoring a lot of things. |
May 9, 2023 11:33 AM
#42
Yasunari said: If I'm not mistaken, it's the credit card companies that are censoring a lot of things. ya that's been the case for a while now. especially with paypal *cough* imgur *cough* *cough* tumblr *cough* *cough* patron *cough* |
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
May 9, 2023 11:52 AM
#43
You got a source on this op, or are you just fearmongering like all the other pedophil- uh, I mean weebs on the internet? Btw, I'm not defending Amazon, but not selling pedo merch is the right thing to do |
May 9, 2023 11:59 AM
#44
Amazon does realize they aren't the only people selling LNs and figures, folks will move on to other places; especially for the latter where figure selection is way better. |
May 9, 2023 12:07 PM
#45
HAHAHAHA as if those wealthy owners give a flying fuck about children |
May 9, 2023 12:10 PM
#46
Hoppy said: Well, if I really wanted to buy something like that, then I would either go to specialty stores or try to buy directly from Japan. I do not understand people who buy such things through the most common online stores.Amazon does realize they aren't the only people selling LNs and figures, folks will move on to other places; especially for the latter where figure selection is way better. |
May 9, 2023 12:28 PM
#47
Ihateamerica69 said: You got a source on this op, or are you just fearmongering like all the other pedophil- uh, I mean weebs on the internet? Btw, I'm not defending Amazon, but not selling pedo merch is the right thing to do hmmm i see an account with such an obvious name too with 1 post and just happens to choose this one to reply to whos alt account are you? |
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
May 9, 2023 2:13 PM
#48
GrimAtrament said: Lmaooo, I'll never forget that day. MadanielFL said: Thats's why Rightstuff the GOAT no cap! Although some people said they were going to boycott Rightstuff due to a certain orange company... crunchyroll? only anime related company i can think of that uses orange in it's signage. |
May 9, 2023 2:19 PM
#49
No. I'm saying that there's only one article from an untrustworthy source, which is based on the tweets of a single person and that this isn't enough to corroborate if it's true or not. And nowhere in said article was a statement from the manufacturer itself, but instead of Chuck Gaffney, who is apparently owner of an anime site, blog and store and tried to address GoodSmile. @GrimAtrament There's nothing wrong with asking for a legitimate source regardless. |
May 9, 2023 2:24 PM
#50
TheBigGuy said: Your bias towards certain resources is not a loophole for accusing someone of lying in advance. I think that you will obviously be against it if, guided by my bias towards left-wing resources, I begin to assume in advance that journalists are lying and demand that you refute this. Skepticism is not a toy in the hands of those who want to poison the source.No. I'm saying that there's only one article from an untrustworthy source, which is based on the tweets of a single person and that this isn't enough to corroborate if it's true or not. And nowhere in said article was a statement from the manufacturer itself, but instead of Chuck Gaffney, who is apparently owner of an anime site, blog and store and tried to address GoodSmile. @GrimAtrament There's nothing wrong with asking for a legitimate source regardless. |
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