| I'm seeing all the fuzz about Lum's nips being censored. Does Lum's nips have some story enhancing properties? Or is its absence a sign of this adaptation deviating from the sauce? |
DragevardOct 16, 2022 7:24 AM
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| apparently, they're saying there's a bunch of jokes centered around her nips? and the comedic effect gets lost without the visual confirmation or some shit idk a bit of an overexaggeration for not seeing her nips, I'd say |
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| ลum without nipples is like pizza without cheese. |
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| It's about the remake having to justify its existence. |
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Dragevard said: I'm seeing all the fuzz about Lum's nips being censored. Does Lum's nips have some story enhancing properties? Or is its absence a sign of this adaptation deviating from the sauce? If hers are pure pink, then she is canonically a virgin and the fandom would get much harder. |
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp!  |
| Very, changes the story an insane amount |
 ๐ฃ๐ฑ๐ฎ ๐ฏ๐ช๐ด๐ฎ ๐ฒ๐ผ ๐ธ๐ฏ ๐ฐ๐ป๐ฎ๐ช๐ฝ๐ฎ๐ป ๐ฟ๐ช๐ต๐พ๐ฎ. ๐๐ท ๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ผ ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ต๐ฒ๐ซ๐ฎ๐ป๐ช๐ฝ๐ฎ ๐ช๐ฝ๐ฝ๐ฎ๐ถ๐น๐ฝ ๐ฝ๐ธ ๐ซ๐ฎ ๐ป๐ฎ๐ช๐ต, ๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ผ ๐ถ๐ธ๐ป๐ฎ ๐ป๐ฎ๐ช๐ต ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ช๐ท ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฎ ๐ป๐ฎ๐ช๐ต ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ท๐ฐ. |
| Well I have no problem seeing lum's nips but people who are complaining abt that are basically overreacting over a very trivial thing. |
HeadpattsOct 16, 2022 8:22 AM
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| Honestly it didn't bother me as I didn't even notice. Sure the original had titty, but I assume they want a broader reach and it's not like the old days anymore where titty was common in anime for all ages. |
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s0me0ne0nMAL said: SgtBateMan said: If hers are pure pink, then she is canonically a virgin and the fandom would get much harder. wait, they are supposed to change colour I guess Virgins like us wont know. |
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Voidian said: CaptLolicon said: Honestly it didn't bother me as I didn't even notice. Sure the original had titty, but I assume they want a broader reach and it's not like the old days anymore where titty was common in anime for all ages. So, basically, it's an inferior version that shouldn't exist. Got it. If nipples are the only reason you're watching then sure I guess? If that's the case though there's better options out there for that. |
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WigoSas said: Piromysl said: ลum without nipples is like pizza without cheese. Which is actually more ancient than current pizza Pizza marinara, without chesse Kinda random but this post reminded me of a youtube video I watched a while back and found interesting. |
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| They are a critical aspect of her character and essential to the plot. Literally unwatchable now |
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| I don't think it's only about seeing her nipples or not. I think the bigger worry is if they're going to censor other content. Ataru is a womanizing pervert--that's his character in the story. And actually even Lum isn't exactly shy with her intentions either. If they can't show Lum's nipples in episode 1, what else are they going to censor? Fans of the original don't want to see an essential part of the show watered down or removed. If female nipples are the ONLY thing they take away from the story, then i won't mind, but i won't be able to watch this if they downplay Ataru's perviness. I'll wait and see. |
| never mind Lum's nipples, what about Shinobu's nipples? But to answer the question, seeing nipples is hot and we need hotness |
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| Very essential. Seeing Lum’s nips is a rite of passage. 1978 forever best girl. |
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| I wish I hadn't opened this thread |
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Catalano said: never mind Lum's nipples, what about Shinobu's nipples? But to answer the question, seeing nipples is hot and we need hotness Okay, but Shinowho? |
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Piromysl said: ลum without nipples is like pizza without cheese. Actually, the no nipple thingy was the best of NoGemu NoLaifu. |
SgtBateManOct 17, 2022 8:06 AM
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp! |
| It is literally unwatchable now :/ |
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Gardetrace said: What is the purpose of this insane fucking rant? Anime can't show nipples on a live broadcast unless it airs on AT-X. People don't seem to understand that when you censor something, it calls more attention to it than if you showed it. If they simply showed Lum's nipples, we'd see them and move on. But since her bra just so happened to perfectly obscure her nipples as it was being removed and her hair just so happened to come down in time to hide her nipples once the bra was gone, you're left thinking about her nipples more as a lot of bending over backwards is done to hide them. If they didn't go through all that to hide them, no one would be talking about them, but since they did, people are talking about them. Some will say it's not a big deal and isn't worth complaining about, however, it goes both ways. The animators thought her nipples were a big enough deal to hide, so that makes people complain about them being hidden in the first place. It's a pendulum effect, the more it goes in one direction, the more pronounced it swings in the opposite direction. The animators censored her nipples, people complain about her nipples being censored, some will defend the anime for censoring her nipples, others will double down on complaining about the censorship, and it keeps going back and forth over and over again. People will say the anime is rated PG-13 to justify why her nipples are censored, but others will bring up the fact that the 1981 series is also rated PG-13 and her nipples appear there. So, why were they ok to show then, but not now? Have people become incredibly prudish and ashamed of their bodies in the past 41 years? Some will mention Lum's nipples didn't appear that many times in the original anime and manga either, but the quantity of her nipples being shown isn't the point, the point is her nipples appear, but now they won't. Some people will tell you to go watch porn if you want to see nipples so badly, but by that logic, that's like saying if you want to see something with violence in it so badly, just watch people getting into real life fights in the internet. Lum's nipples are not the point here. The point is being able to watch the series as the creator originally intended. If the creator wanted to show nipples, let them be shown. If the creator wanted to show dismemberment, let it be shown. Does it break the series that we don't get to see Lum's fully exposed breasts, nipples included? I'd say "no, it's a nitpick," but nitpicks are criticisms that are small, but valid. It may not be something so bad, it ruins a work, but it is something wrong in a work. Also, who says they'll stop at Lum's nipples? Remember, there are societal differences between the run of the original manga and anime from the 80s and the 2022 anime, so there will be many more changes to come whenever the 2022 anime adapts something the characters do or say that would be seen as inappropriate by today's standards that wasn't back then. So, the criticisms of Lum's censored nipples are justified. |
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Gardetrace said: People don't seem to understand that when you censor something, it calls more attention to it than if you showed it. If they simply showed Lum's nipples, we'd see them and move on. But since her bra just so happened to perfectly obscure her nipples as it was being removed and her hair just so happened to come down in time to hide her nipples once the bra was gone, you're left thinking about her nipples more as a lot of bending over backwards is done to hide them. If they didn't go through all that to hide them, no one would be talking about them, but since they did, people are talking about them. Some will say it's not a big deal and isn't worth complaining about, however, it goes both ways. The animators thought her nipples were a big enough deal to hide, so that makes people complain about them being hidden in the first place. It's a pendulum effect, the more it goes in one direction, the more pronounced it swings in the opposite direction. The animators censored her nipples, people complain about her nipples being censored, some will defend the anime for censoring her nipples, others will double down on complaining about the censorship, and it keeps going back and forth over and over again. People will say the anime is rated PG-13 to justify why her nipples are censored, but others will bring up the fact that the 1981 series is also rated PG-13 and her nipples appear there. So, why were they ok to show then, but not now? Have people become incredibly prudish and ashamed of their bodies in the past 41 years? Some will mention Lum's nipples didn't appear that many times in the original anime and manga either, but the quantity of her nipples being shown isn't the point, the point is her nipples appear, but now they won't. Some people will tell you to go watch porn if you want to see nipples so badly, but by that logic, that's like saying if you want to see something with violence in it so badly, just watch people getting into real life fights in the internet. Lum's nipples are not the point here. The point is being able to watch the series as the creator originally intended. If the creator wanted to show nipples, let them be shown. If the creator wanted to show dismemberment, let it be shown. Does it break the series that we don't get to see Lum's fully exposed breasts, nipples included? I'd say "no, it's a nitpick," but nitpicks are criticisms that are small, but valid. It may not be something so bad, it ruins a work, but it is something wrong in a work. Also, who says they'll stop at Lum's nipples? Remember, there are societal differences between the run of the original manga and anime from the 80s and the 2022 anime, so there will be many more changes to come whenever the 2022 anime adapts something the characters do or say that would be seen as inappropriate by today's standards that wasn't back then. So, the criticisms of Lum's censored nipples are justified. holy NIPS my guy, chill the fuck out XD  |
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| [/quote] holy NIPS my guy, chill the fuck out XD [/quote]I laughed my ass off from seeing this post. Don't worry, I'm chill. I'm just making an observation. This isn't a rant. But I'm a firm defender of #FreeTheNipple. |
Gardetrace said: People don't seem to understand that when you censor something, it calls more attention to it than if you showed it. If they simply showed Lum's nipples, we'd see them and move on. But since her bra just so happened to perfectly obscure her nipples as it was being removed and her hair just so happened to come down in time to hide her nipples once the bra was gone, you're left thinking about her nipples more as a lot of bending over backwards is done to hide them. If they didn't go through all that to hide them, no one would be talking about them, but since they did, people are talking about them. Some will say it's not a big deal and isn't worth complaining about, however, it goes both ways. The animators thought her nipples were a big enough deal to hide, so that makes people complain about them being hidden in the first place. It's a pendulum effect, the more it goes in one direction, the more pronounced it swings in the opposite direction. The animators censored her nipples, people complain about her nipples being censored, some will defend the anime for censoring her nipples, others will double down on complaining about the censorship, and it keeps going back and forth over and over again. People will say the anime is rated PG-13 to justify why her nipples are censored, but others will bring up the fact that the 1981 series is also rated PG-13 and her nipples appear there. So, why were they ok to show then, but not now? Have people become incredibly prudish and ashamed of their bodies in the past 41 years? Some will mention Lum's nipples didn't appear that many times in the original anime and manga either, but the quantity of her nipples being shown isn't the point, the point is her nipples appear, but now they won't. Some people will tell you to go watch porn if you want to see nipples so badly, but by that logic, that's like saying if you want to see something with violence in it so badly, just watch people getting into real life fights in the internet. Lum's nipples are not the point here. The point is being able to watch the series as the creator originally intended. If the creator wanted to show nipples, let them be shown. If the creator wanted to show dismemberment, let it be shown. Does it break the series that we don't get to see Lum's fully exposed breasts, nipples included? I'd say "no, it's a nitpick," but nitpicks are criticisms that are small, but valid. It may not be something so bad, it ruins a work, but it is something wrong in a work. Also, who says they'll stop at Lum's nipples? Remember, there are societal differences between the run of the original manga and anime from the 80s and the 2022 anime, so there will be many more changes to come whenever the 2022 anime adapts something the characters do or say that would be seen as inappropriate by today's standards that wasn't back then. So, the criticisms of Lum's censored nipples are justified. No need to write whole wall of text just to say: "They want PG-13 rating to not diminish the audience and have access to more preferable timeslot, so even kids could watch it." LoLChill, dude. |
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Seawolf43 said: Lum is a minor. Some things that got a pass in the 80s don't anymore. Even for the same target audience. Show has never been about nipples. The nipples are simply there to grab the viewers' attention on very few selected manga chapters and episodes. This new anime doesn't need it, UY's popularity is made. If you desperately need to see them, watch the original anime + Beautiful dreamer. For now it's still the best version of Lum anyway. We have plenty have shows where so called "minors" get lewded every damn week wiht panty shots boob jiggle etc. I don't think lum's nipple would have made any difference whatever she's a minor or not. The nipples got censored cause the channel where urusei yatsura has been airing, hasn't shown any nipples for any show at all since 20years. It's a mainstream japanese channel where they keep everything in a certain modest way, that's why we won't get any nipples. |
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| Bad anime became bad anime without nipples. Is there anything left that can save it? |
Gardetrace said: People don't seem to understand that when you censor something, it calls more attention to it than if you showed it. If they simply showed Lum's nipples, we'd see them and move on. But since her bra just so happened to perfectly obscure her nipples as it was being removed and her hair just so happened to come down in time to hide her nipples once the bra was gone, you're left thinking about her nipples more as a lot of bending over backwards is done to hide them. If they didn't go through all that to hide them, no one would be talking about them, but since they did, people are talking about them. Some will say it's not a big deal and isn't worth complaining about, however, it goes both ways. The animators thought her nipples were a big enough deal to hide, so that makes people complain about them being hidden in the first place. It's a pendulum effect, the more it goes in one direction, the more pronounced it swings in the opposite direction. The animators censored her nipples, people complain about her nipples being censored, some will defend the anime for censoring her nipples, others will double down on complaining about the censorship, and it keeps going back and forth over and over again. People will say the anime is rated PG-13 to justify why her nipples are censored, but others will bring up the fact that the 1981 series is also rated PG-13 and her nipples appear there. So, why were they ok to show then, but not now? Have people become incredibly prudish and ashamed of their bodies in the past 41 years? Some will mention Lum's nipples didn't appear that many times in the original anime and manga either, but the quantity of her nipples being shown isn't the point, the point is her nipples appear, but now they won't. Some people will tell you to go watch porn if you want to see nipples so badly, but by that logic, that's like saying if you want to see something with violence in it so badly, just watch people getting into real life fights in the internet. Lum's nipples are not the point here. The point is being able to watch the series as the creator originally intended. If the creator wanted to show nipples, let them be shown. If the creator wanted to show dismemberment, let it be shown. Does it break the series that we don't get to see Lum's fully exposed breasts, nipples included? I'd say "no, it's a nitpick," but nitpicks are criticisms that are small, but valid. It may not be something so bad, it ruins a work, but it is something wrong in a work. Also, who says they'll stop at Lum's nipples? Remember, there are societal differences between the run of the original manga and anime from the 80s and the 2022 anime, so there will be many more changes to come whenever the 2022 anime adapts something the characters do or say that would be seen as inappropriate by today's standards that wasn't back then. So, the criticisms of Lum's censored nipples are justified. I like this point. |
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Seawolf43 said: It's irrelevant whether a character is a minor, a drawing can't consent nor does it have rights. Full blown topless nudity is only allowed on AT-X. You're right, when I say she's a minor I don't mean it as the main reason they won't do it since she doesn't exactly look like a kid, but it's just wrong imo. I still think there is a difference between boob jiggle, which we saw, and naked tits. But not sure what this channel can show exactly, you're certainly more versed than I am. |
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Seawolf43 said: Lum is a minor. Some things that got a pass in the 80s don't anymore. Even for the same target audience. Show has never been about nipples. The nipples are simply there to grab the viewers' attention on very few selected manga chapters and episodes. This new anime doesn't need it, UY's popularity is made. If you desperately need to see them, watch the original anime + Beautiful dreamer. For now it's still the best version of Lum anyway. Japan doesn't care about this stuff one bit. That's definitely not the case. |
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| People will find stupid shit to complain about as always. Urusei Yatsura isn't Ranma 1/2. It doesn't need nudity for its comedy to work. The original manga/anime barely had any nudity. Heck, even Ranma 1/2 could probably work with some clever censorship. The nudity is not what drives these shows. It's the comedy. |
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They are a critical aspect of her character and essential to the plot.
Literally unwatchable now
Literally unwatchable now
| @NorthmostIsle This but unironically. The real question is for what reason were they cut out? That's what needs some justification. |
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