| Well like a bolt from a blue its time for a new threadview! And this thread in particular was inspired by one of my close friend’s threads, what would you do if you could make and be the head of your own anime studio? and I flipped it upside and make it into a manga magazine label instead.  So, there is a lot of manga magazines out there and some of them are notable for specializing in a certain area, Comic Beam for example focuses on alternative manga for a more artsty audience with stuff such as Kyruami Dance by Suda51 which I learned about from his visual novel he made long while back that was ported on the pc,switch and ps4 the silver case. Yeah its about death and the afterlife of course lol Lot of it is mainly seinen and Emma is one of their most notable works and another I think that comes to mind would also be Desert Punk. And if you really wanna go into really gross territory Little Miss P. Gangan which is owned by Square Enix (used to be Enix alone but when they merged Squaresoft now also owned the rights as well) does a wide variety of things for different demographs stuff like Black Butler for example is one such popular work that came from Gangan Comics. Lot of it mainly is seinen and shonen stuff. You also have cookie and ribon which is known for publishing shojo and josei stuff as well like some of Ai Yazawa’s works for example such as neighborhood story and nana but knowing me if you wanna go further back to lesser known turf, look at Kagen No Tsuki. Of course since my close friend Fario loves Arina Tanemura, you also have to mention Gentlemen’s Alliance Cross I.ON,Full Moon,Phantom Thief Jeanne and Time Stranger Kyoko. Now to get straight to the point, how and what would you do if you were in charge of a manga magazine label as its not just about making “muh perfect neetaku wet dream/narou-kei.” Case one who are you targeting your demograph for? Now me, josei and shoujo doesn’t get much love these days and there's a lot of fucking cool stories that really fucking needs to be rebooted or adapted and also guys do love shoujo yes they do and there are stories that shoujo has made that can also appeal to them. I would have also went with Seinen as well since some of my favorite stories like Bungo Stray Dogs are for the Seinen crowd. Its not just romance stuff you know lol. Case two what kind of stories do you want to publish? So magazines are sometimes known for a certain types of stories being published, shonen jump we all know has their duel stuff like the big 3 Naruto,Bleach and One Piece and which genre would you really want to be well known for? Romance,mystery or the duel shit I frankly don’t really give a flying fuck at all whatsover or action. Case three would you do a news label instead? Growing up back in the 2000s there was a lot of anime and manga magazines like anime insider and shonen jump also had their magazine and also shojo beat as well published in the west during the time when I was a kid growing up. These days, its only otakuusa and its still going on strong to this day and you can easily find them in your grocery store or wal-mart at least in my area. So what kind of stories would you cover for it? The hot shit I frankly couldn’t give a flying fuck at a;; about, Manga creators on the rise?,popular established ones or lesser known ones? And also which area of news would you focus on? Specific ones like shonen jump or shojo beat? Or general ones regardless of anything? Also what parts of otaku culture would you like to explore as well too and showcase? Like OEL’s which are basically manga made by gaijins,cosplay or collectors. In my case I would go with collectors as I love collecting and I'll absolutely never sell any of my stuff at all whatsoever period as long as I am alive. Also what video games would you be covering as well too since I know manga/anime magazines also cover it as well and for the video game side it would be exclusives like Soma Bringer or Sakura Note on the ds. (Fun fact for Sakura Note, it was written by the same writer for ff7 and was also composed by the Nobuo Uemetsu as well too) Case four incentives for purchasing the magazine. Now some magazines also come with goodies like Nakayoshi for example came with Furoko which is basically gift bags, stuff like toys or fashion accessories may be one such thing you can look into. And would it be from popular or lesser known stuff, as fun fact apparently Zodiac P.I also had quite a bit of merch to get people to buy the series and the amount of obscure anime and manga and vidya gamez having that amount of merch often surprises me. anyone wants to be my sugar oni-sama and shower me with TWEWY merch lol. Now heres some more random stuff to consider while looking into making a manga magazine label as well. -How often are copies of your magazine will appear? Once or twice a month. -Do you plan on having any of your stuff be adapted? -what kind of merch in mind do you have for Furoko’s (gift bags) when you are promoting your magazine? -are you going to be doujins or are you going to be part of a much bigger company like kadowaka or shusheisa? -also to further add to the question, if you do go with merch is it for the more popular stuff for the safe side or are you going to take a risk and say fuck it do it for the more lesser known stuff. -for the news article side of things if you choose the weeb news route and its mainly for the video game stuff, which types of games would you like to cover? Stuff from established anime franchises or outside of it? -which role would you really place of importance the most in making a magazine? Editorial or art stuff? -also another bonus question too? With the news route which person in the anime industry would you like to interview can be any position. Also lets throw in a bonus question as well too? So now without further ado enjoy the thread and let me know your thoughts on how ya’ll zeptograms would make a manga magazine. And also one more final thing as well too.  |
Disapeared_GhostApr 8, 2022 5:55 AM
| Sorry for late post, really thought hard about typing this one while doing other work... Case 1 - Demographic Most of the manga I read is shoujo manga (usually manga aimed at 9-12 year old girls), and many of my favorite manga have been listed as shoujo... so sure, let's go with shoujo. I dunno if my personal tastes are something that most shoujo fans would share, but it's best to start with something you're fairly familiar with... "write what you know", ya know? Case 2 - Story I'm very well known on these forums for being a mahou shoujo fan, so I guess Nakayoshi would be an inspiration.  Like most shoujo manga magazines, Nakayoshi has a ton of romance-oriented serializations. But many of Nakayoshi's biggest hits are arguably some of the most famous mahou shoujo series ever made. Everyone in the whole entire world has heard of Sailor Moon. Many shoujo fans have fond nostalgia for that series and Cardcaptor Sakura. Tokyo Mew Mew is still remembered by enough for it to get a new anime apparently airing next season, and I'm pretty sure series like Shugo Chara! and Magic Knight Rayearth still have a bit of cult status for some out there to this day. But not only does it feel like I can never have enough mahou shoujo, it also seems that Nakayoshi doesn't really produce mahou shoujo anymore aside from the sequel to Cardcaptor Sakura and the all-magical-boy Tokyo Mew Mew spin-off. So a magazine more catered to the mahou shoujo genre would definitely be nice. But at the same time, I dunno if I want the magazine to be JUST mahou shoujo. I mean, it'd be boring if things were only ever JUST ONE theme/genre, right? So I guess I'd say another focus would be less on romance-themed stories. Romance is nice and all, and many of my favorites do indeed feature it, but romance isn't the only thing in life to care about and having arguably 90% of the demographic be focused on unrealistically-high-doki-doki romance could influence girls into thinking it is when it isn't. I suppose it would be a little understandable (though still annoying) that most anime fans think that romance is synonymous with shoujo and therefore confuse any ol' romance as such (common targets of this are romances with shoujo-like art styles such as Horimiya and Your Lie in April) because of that. So while I wouldn't COMPLETELY eliminate romance entirely in this hypothetical mahou shoujo magazine aimed at girls, I kinda want to distance it a bit more from shoujo. Maybe it could be because I want to reduce stereotypes, maybe it's because I'm actually not interested in romance in my own life... who knows. Besides, as much as people hate it, I kinda would like the power of friendship to be emphasized more... maybe it's because I miss having irl friends lol, but I love seeing wholesome friendships like in Magic Knight Rayearth, Ultra Maniac, Satoko and Nada, Twin Spica, and Yu☆Gi☆Oh! (yeah, the last three are not shoujo, but you still get my point... I hope). So yeah, more shoujo manga focused more on friendship and forming platonic bonds with others would be nice too. Another way to distance this from the stereotypical "romance = shoujo" image could be allowing more shounen-like shoujo to be produced. Like how people think the aforementioned series Horimiya and Your Lie in April (as well as A Silent Voice) are shoujo when they're actually shounen... so more action-packed shoujo like those featured in the now-defunct shoujo magazine ARIA could work, especially if a few series aren't afraid to show off a bit of brutal violence or even straight-up uncensored horrific gore. I've heard that 50% of Shounen Jump's readership is female anyway, so I'm sure there are girls who would like shoujo to take the action route. So why not add this element as well? Case 3 - News A news label might be a cool idea too... besides, didn't Game Freak actually start as a fan magazine made by gamers for gamers? Fun fact :P I'm sure anime and manga magazines were everywhere, but I never really saw much of those as a kid. I see a couple of those now in places like Book-Off, but yeah, kinda feels like a part of childhood I might have missed out on. Obviously I like to type a lot and share words like on here, so I might want to also turn this hypothetical manga magazine into a semi-news magazine as well. A dedicated magazine for fans of mahou shoujo and the shoujo demographic could probably be appreciated even in this day and age when podcasts and blogs are things that also exist. One thing I like about the magazine Nintendo Force (which I had a brief subscription to many years ago) is that they have a section in their issues that features retro games/things as well as throwbacks to the official Nintendo magazine Nintendo Power. It's been forever since I read any of the issues I had and I hadn't continued my subscription from long ago, since someone else had given me it (maybe I should reconsider subscribing...?), but I always thought this magazine was cool for things like that. So a section in a shoujo magazine highlighting older shoujo/mahou shoujo things the way NF does with Nintendo would be very interesting and fun to have! Case 4 - Incentives I've never actually bought any of these manga magazines (for obvious language barrier reasons), but I have seen the kinds of goodies that Nakayoshi issues come with. They seem like cute little trinkets, and I get why they make them—it's to get girls to buy their own copies of the latest issue so that they can have their own goodies instead of just sharing magazines from friends. It might be a good idea for this hypothetical shoujo magazine, but it might cost a bit much to have them early on and I can't even think of any specific trinkets to include in issues anyway. Maybe it'd be a better idea if the magazine gets more successful. Case 4.1 - Bonus A simple one issue per month serialization sounds just fine. I'd obviously love it if any series serialized within this hypothetical magazine gets adapted into anime, especially when the anime industry hardly ever produces shoujo anime these days! I don't have any specific merch in mind, but as much as I appreciate the overlooked stuff it'd be more wise to produce merch for the more popular series first. Better to be safe than sorry. Interviewing the GOAT mahou shoujo legends Junichi Sato and Ikuko Itoh would be absolutely awesome. |
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Wow this is an interesting thread! I haven't been looking into the threads here lately, so thank you for tagging! And wanting to team up with me as well xD I may not be that knowledgable about the mahou shoujo genre, but anything for more shoujo for the industry! Speaking of variety of genres in shoujo, one of my favorite manga from Nakayoshi is actually Arisa by Natsumi Ando. It is different from the other more romance-focused stories and actually quite dark. Another one that stands out to me was The Great Detective Kiyoshiro Yumemizu which is a detective story with 3 twin sisters and their mysterious neigbor. So more suspenseful shoujo would be very interesting to see. Also, besides friendship, I can also see more focus in family-themed or ambition/passion-focused, something I usually see in seinen, like Blue Period (passion for art) or Animeta (ambition to be animator) but with a young female MC. |
Fario-P said: So a section in a shoujo magazine highlighting older shoujo/mahou shoujo things the way NF does with Nintendo would be very interesting and fun to have! I'd rather learn more about old manga than old video games. Manga are more accessible because they do not require me to hunt down a Famicom. Not exactly sure what kind of shoujo @Lucifrost and I could come up with, but I'm sure it'd be reminiscent of the older eras of shoujo. I prefer shoujo manga that does not overly pander to its target demographic, as I have never been a shoujo. |
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| case 1 - mostly shonen but I would rather go for an all ages approach, likie I will make it clear that the manga here has blood and violence and all case 2 - well, romance, mystery and action, supernatural, mostly everything, ecchi too, an extreme ecchi will attract lots of readers case 3 - I would try to get interviews from mangaka and people in the business and cater mostly to normies and dedicated fans alike case 4 - as for merch, yeah, anything small and impactful like key chains and the like, plushies, you name it - I plan to have it once a month, weekly is too tiresome and money costly - No because we're not that popular, maybe when the mag become very popular - I would work with endlessmaria, she would be our no1 mangaka, her stories are awesome |
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Crow_Black said: Thanks as always Crow! Good to hear my more shounen-like shoujo magazine idea has been well received ^_^Bro!! i am up earlier than i should be because i've slept really early last night and holy smokes!! this post drop every single moon in the milky way!! Naoko Takeuchi and CLAMP would indeed be nice to interview as well! ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ Shirayukin said: No problem, I think you'd just make for a great shoujo consultant in general!Wow this is an interesting thread! I haven't been looking into the threads here lately, so thank you for tagging! And wanting to team up with me as well xD I may not be that knowledgable about the mahou shoujo genre, but anything for more shoujo for the industry! Speaking of variety of genres in shoujo, one of my favorite manga from Nakayoshi is actually Arisa by Natsumi Ando. It is different from the other more romance-focused stories and actually quite dark. Another one that stands out to me was The Great Detective Kiyoshiro Yumemizu which is a detective story with 3 twin sisters and their mysterious neigbor. So more suspenseful shoujo would be very interesting to see. Also, besides friendship, I can also see more focus in family-themed or ambition/passion-focused, something I usually see in seinen, like Blue Period (passion for art) or Animeta (ambition to be animator) but with a young female MC. Family and passion oriented stories would indeed be great! And I still have yet to read Arisa... ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ Lucifrost said: That's a good point lol! And I figured, but I mean what are some shoujo manga that you'd like to see more stories take inspiration from?Fario-P said: So a section in a shoujo magazine highlighting older shoujo/mahou shoujo things the way NF does with Nintendo would be very interesting and fun to have! I'd rather learn more about old manga than old video games. Manga are more accessible because they do not require me to hunt down a Famicom. Not exactly sure what kind of shoujo @Lucifrost and I could come up with, but I'm sure it'd be reminiscent of the older eras of shoujo. I prefer shoujo manga that does not overly pander to its target demographic, as I have never been a shoujo. ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ Catalano said: Damn how did I forget to mention @EndlessMaria? lolcase 1 - mostly shonen but I would rather go for an all ages approach, likie I will make it clear that the manga here has blood and violence and all case 2 - well, romance, mystery and action, supernatural, mostly everything, ecchi too, an extreme ecchi will attract lots of readers case 3 - I would try to get interviews from mangaka and people in the business and cater mostly to normies and dedicated fans alike case 4 - as for merch, yeah, anything small and impactful like key chains and the like, plushies, you name it - I plan to have it once a month, weekly is too tiresome and money costly - No because we're not that popular, maybe when the mag become very popular - I would work with endlessmaria, she would be our no1 mangaka, her stories are awesome ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ ⋆ ✶ I do think there should be some more magical girl stories like it, so sure! ^_^ |
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Fario-P said: Lucifrost said: That's a good point lol! And I figured, but I mean what are some shoujo manga that you'd like to see more stories take inspiration from?I prefer shoujo manga that does not overly pander to its target demographic, as I have never been a shoujo. Hard to say. Most of my favorite titles have been influential already. Kaze to Ki no Uta inspired a bunch of BL. Candy Candy and The Rose of Versailles inspired a bunch of historical dramas. Sukeban Deka supposedly created the delinquent schoolgirl genre, but I haven't read any of those. Vampires are a shoujo staple dating back at least as far as The Poe Clan. My ideal vampire shoujo is a horror anime such as Vampire Miyu. More works like Utena would be nice. I once played an otome game that reminded me of Utena, and I enjoyed it greatly. Please Save My Earth inspired Sailor Moon and other 90s shoujo, but its influence doesn't seem to have survived beyond the end of the decade. I would like to read more works like Please Save My Earth. There are a few more titles I don't think would ever be serialized in today's shoujo magizines. I still question why titles like Pygmalio, X, and They Were 11 were marketed to girls. So if I had to run my own manga magazine, I'd probably fill it with shounen instead. I imagine that's not the answer you were hoping to hear... And of course I like magical girls, but you already have that genre covered. |
LucifrostApr 27, 2022 8:02 AM
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| Sorry for late reply, but... Lucifrost said: Huh? Is that an issue, I mean don't people take inspiration from stuff like Devilman all the time?Fario-P said: And I figured, but I mean what are some shoujo manga that you'd like to see more stories take inspiration from? Hard to say. Most of my favorite titles have been influential already. You can have several artists drawing from one subject and there's a good chance they'll draw out certain details differently from each other. :) Candy Candy and The Rose of Versailles inspired a bunch of historical dramas. Haven't seen any of these yet (including what I'm about to mention here), but what do you think of Tomorrow's Nadja? Dunno how similar it is to the former, but still wanted to ask.More works like Utena would be nice. I once played an otome game that reminded me of Utena, and I enjoyed it greatly. Haven't checked out these two yet, what are some aspects that you like about them that you specifically would like to see more of?Please Save My Earth inspired Sailor Moon and other 90s shoujo, but its influence doesn't seem to have survived beyond the end of the decade. I would like to read more works like Please Save My Earth. There are a few more titles I don't think would ever be serialized in today's shoujo magizines. I still question why titles like Pygmalio, X, and They Were 11 were marketed to girls. So if I had to run my own manga magazine, I'd probably fill it with shounen instead. I imagine that's not the answer you were hoping to hear... Nah, I mean my own idea sounds more like a shounen-like shoujo magazine anyway with more emphasis on friendship and maybe violence as well rather than romance haha... and what's wrong with trying magical girl writing yourself? Sure, I love the genre too and seem to have a very specific taste as to what I'd like to see more of, but wouldn't it be boring if just one person was the only one working with the genre? There's so many ideas that can be explored with not just the magical girl genre (*cough cough* isekai *cough*) and it'd be cool to see how so many people choose to interpret such ideas!And of course I like magical girls, but you already have that genre covered. |
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Fario-P said: Huh? Is that an issue, I mean don't people take inspiration from stuff like Devilman all the time? You can have several artists drawing from one subject and there's a good chance they'll draw out certain details differently from each other. :) Good point. Out of all the writers who were inspired by Devilman, I only like CLAMP. Lucifrost said: Candy Candy and The Rose of Versailles inspired a bunch of historical dramas. Haven't seen any of these yet (including what I'm about to mention here), but what do you think of Tomorrow's Nadja? Dunno how similar it is to the former, but still wanted to ask. Nadja does indeed look similar. I dropped it after just a few episodes, however. More works like Utena would be nice. I once played an otome game that reminded me of Utena, and I enjoyed it greatly. Please Save My Earth inspired Sailor Moon and other 90s shoujo, but its influence doesn't seem to have survived beyond the end of the decade. I would like to read more works like Please Save My Earth. Haven't checked out these two yet, what are some aspects that you like about them that you specifically would like to see more of? Utena takes all the best parts of 70s, 80s, and 90s shoujo, combining them into 1 mega shoujo! Please Save My Earth is a beautiful drama that had me on the edge of my seat. I also was fascinated by the reincarnation angle, as I did not grow up with much exposure to the concept. Spider isekai makes similar use of reincarnation, though I don't like it as much. what's wrong with trying magical girl writing yourself? I don't want to write anything. I leave the hard work to others. |
LucifrostMay 1, 2022 8:11 AM
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| CASE 1 I'd probably target a late shonen (Chainsaw Man, JJK, HxH) and general Seinen demographic. Basically a standard seinen magazine but with some wiggle room for slightly tamer series. CASE 2 My taste when it comes to genre is a fucking mess so I might as well go ahead and have it include all of them. Some action series, some romance, some comedy and some being a mix of those three. CASE 3 The manga to news ratio I would probably be most comfortable with would be an 85% manga, 15% news; or to be more specific, maybe 1 to 3 news articles and announcements between every series chapter. CASE 4 Aside from outside merch for the featured series, not exactly sure what "rewards" to put in the magazine itself, so how about a manga-themed crossword? Everyone loves crosswords! CASE 4.1 (BONUS) - This is a fairly uncommon schedule, but I think once every two weeks would probably be my personal comfortable middleground. No heavy pressure to get an entire chapter out in only 7 days but also a shorter wait for the audience, it's a win-win. - If any of the series has good potential and is popular enough, I would like it to be handled by some of the top-tier studios (MAPPA, Bones, you know how it goes), although that would probably take a lot of time and convincing. - Plushies, figurines and maybe some posters showing cleaned versions of color pages in some chapters in the magazine. - well, going risky is an option ¬u¬ not that i'd necessarily take that risk, just saying it's an option - I'd just go ahead and make merch of any characters that look cool, even if they're not the "hit series" in the magazine. - Even though it's a business at the end of the day, I want to prioritize the expression of true art in the medium of manga. - Getting an interview from any established mangaka would be great but I'd rather go for some of the weirder creators, some of the people who would have the weirdest and coolest answers to give. |
| The genre is that it is limited to girls. Case 1: For women from junior high school to university students. Case 2: Stories that are like a combination of Nakayoshi, Hana to Yume, and Aska. ・Less romance is also acceptable. ・We do not limit the range of genres, such as fantasy, historical, sports, comedy, science fiction, and mystery. ・We would be happy to publish stories that are interesting, even if they are cruel and bloodthirsty. ・Even if the story is based on a novel, if the content is likely to be popular among women, it should be made into a manga and serialized. Case 3 I feel that some people are not good at reading long sentences, or more and more people are not good at reading long sentences, so even if a magazine has a news page, I don't want to devote too many pages to it. I was in Shonen Jump, but I might want to make 2 pages for sweets that appear in the works, or a special page on fashion. As for cosplay, there are people who don't like it, so I would like to see the reaction when we publish it and then consider whether or not to publish it. To be frank, I think it would be good to introduce otaku culture in a separate manga essay type of series. Case 4 I think we've reached the limit of what we can do to increase sales by adding appendices to the magazine. That's all. Thanks for reading this far. |
kihelMay 20, 2022 12:06 AM
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| @AzureWeeb I've seen people claim that's what GFantasy is supposed to be. I think it's a good idea. https://myanimelist.net/manga/magazine/35/GFantasy |
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