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Jan 28, 2022 7:05 PM
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While reading some critical reviews and recent posts related to the second season of Demon Slayer, I came across a common issue that people are talking about and that is how stupid and cheesy some dialogues feel and how that somewhat interrupts the flow of certain episodes.

Well for me everything felt the same compared to last season although there is no doubt that there has certainly been an increase in flashbacks and thought-process (I don't know what's the technical term for that, but a period when the character talks to himself about an ongoing fight) during fight scenes which serves the purpose of explaining certain moves/powerups. And during these flashbacks the character acts as the Narrator.

So my simple question is, do you think an omniscient narrator could be somewhat useful in solving these issues?

For example, in episode 8 - While protecting Tengen from those flying blood sickles, Tanjirou begins to explain how water breathing is more suitable for deflecting a much powerful attack (this somewhat broke the flow of the fight)
I think with the help of a Narrator this scene could have been easily avoided or explained without breaking the flow

𝓜𝓪𝔂𝓫𝓮 𝔀𝓮 𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓭 𝓽𝓸 𝓵𝓮𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪𝓼 𝓶𝓾𝓬𝓱 𝓶𝓮𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓸𝓾𝓻𝓼𝓮𝓵𝓿𝓮𝓼 𝔀𝓲𝓽𝓱 𝓮𝓪𝓬𝓱 𝓸𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓻 𝓫𝓮𝓬𝓪𝓾𝓼𝓮 𝔀𝓮 𝓴𝓷𝓮𝔀 𝓸𝓷𝓮 𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝔀𝓮 𝔀𝓸𝓾𝓵𝓭𝓷'𝓽 𝓫𝓮 𝓽𝓸𝓰𝓮𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓻 𝓪𝓷𝔂 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮
Jan 28, 2022 7:12 PM
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It would be nice if it had one, but I don't know how they'd integrate it into the show.
Jan 28, 2022 7:16 PM
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Nope a narrator will make no difference...it's the anime itself... explanations are there for just the sake of explanations....they don't explain how it works....if they go deep into it....it will somehow fascinate people that..."that was some nice explained and sensible shit".... telling this because most of the animes don't have narrator....but they still are best at monologue....best example is attack on Titan....eren acts as narrator but the explanation and lore is very intresting....also jujutsu kaisen anime don't keep narrator....but still their explanation makes a lot of sense in their world..... which keeps the watcher engaged.....there are a lot of examples....only demon Slayer has this problem of dialogue because the dialogues itself are immaturish.....so if the same shit narrator speaks....then it will make no difference
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Jan 28, 2022 7:30 PM
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Demon slayer is filled with irrelevant and cringey dialogues so what they need is to cut those dialogues because it would make demon slayer less trash
Jan 28, 2022 7:37 PM
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Fkyourmom said:
only demon Slayer has this problem of dialogue because the dialogues itself are immaturish.....so if the same shit narrator speaks....then it will make no difference
actually I'm not talking about the dialogues because I don't think anything can be done about that.... because you know for some reason there target audience are kids although they are fine with showing tons of booba

I was talking about those powerups/move explanations happening during fights

𝓜𝓪𝔂𝓫𝓮 𝔀𝓮 𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓭 𝓽𝓸 𝓵𝓮𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪𝓼 𝓶𝓾𝓬𝓱 𝓶𝓮𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓸𝓾𝓻𝓼𝓮𝓵𝓿𝓮𝓼 𝔀𝓲𝓽𝓱 𝓮𝓪𝓬𝓱 𝓸𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓻 𝓫𝓮𝓬𝓪𝓾𝓼𝓮 𝔀𝓮 𝓴𝓷𝓮𝔀 𝓸𝓷𝓮 𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝔀𝓮 𝔀𝓸𝓾𝓵𝓭𝓷'𝓽 𝓫𝓮 𝓽𝓸𝓰𝓮𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓻 𝓪𝓷𝔂 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮
Jan 28, 2022 8:10 PM
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Yes the talking is so boring its just boring liners that they needed to make the episode 24 minutes
Jan 28, 2022 8:54 PM
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Idk, considering how annoying the chimera ant narrator was. But still, it would probably be better than the exposition we do get in demon slayer.

Jan 28, 2022 9:14 PM
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No just don't talk at all. Alot of things they say doesn't need to be said. Only talk during fights if it's important or actually needs to be explained. When shikamaru talks during fights it's needed bc he's so smart that certain things he does really needs an explanation. The demon and the hashira going back n forth about how swaggy the hashira is doesn't need to be there just fight.
Jan 28, 2022 9:15 PM
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No. A simplified explanation would make the fight flow better, but the anime is adapting the manga so faithfully they even made the dialogues and monologues identically the same with the manga. Having a fight with many dialogues and monologues in manga form would work just fine, but it didnt work quite well in anime form.
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Jan 28, 2022 9:23 PM
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I really suck at math but I'm pretty sure if you multiply anything to zero it's still zero. The same logic applies to ds.
Jan 28, 2022 9:54 PM
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Nah...this is a fight anime. You don't watch this anime for the storytelling or any real character development. A narrator would just serve to slow it down between fights.
Jan 28, 2022 10:03 PM

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nope not really the story isnt that hard to understand plus there isnt much explaination needed on the sword techniques
Jan 28, 2022 10:58 PM

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the problem isn't the narrator, it's the cringe and useless dialogue
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Jan 28, 2022 11:24 PM

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Rndmguypassingby said:
nope not really the story isnt that hard to understand plus there isnt much explaination needed on the sword techniques
ya I know still all those useless talks between fights annoys me sometime

𝓜𝓪𝔂𝓫𝓮 𝔀𝓮 𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓭 𝓽𝓸 𝓵𝓮𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪𝓼 𝓶𝓾𝓬𝓱 𝓶𝓮𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓸𝓾𝓻𝓼𝓮𝓵𝓿𝓮𝓼 𝔀𝓲𝓽𝓱 𝓮𝓪𝓬𝓱 𝓸𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓻 𝓫𝓮𝓬𝓪𝓾𝓼𝓮 𝔀𝓮 𝓴𝓷𝓮𝔀 𝓸𝓷𝓮 𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝔀𝓮 𝔀𝓸𝓾𝓵𝓭𝓷'𝓽 𝓫𝓮 𝓽𝓸𝓰𝓮𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓻 𝓪𝓷𝔂 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮
Jan 28, 2022 11:26 PM

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Jfs_ said:
Having a fight with many dialogues and monologues in manga form would work just fine, but it didnt work quite well in anime form.
yes that's the problem they're trying too hard to be faithful to the source material

𝓜𝓪𝔂𝓫𝓮 𝔀𝓮 𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓭 𝓽𝓸 𝓵𝓮𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪𝓼 𝓶𝓾𝓬𝓱 𝓶𝓮𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓸𝓾𝓻𝓼𝓮𝓵𝓿𝓮𝓼 𝔀𝓲𝓽𝓱 𝓮𝓪𝓬𝓱 𝓸𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓻 𝓫𝓮𝓬𝓪𝓾𝓼𝓮 𝔀𝓮 𝓴𝓷𝓮𝔀 𝓸𝓷𝓮 𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝔀𝓮 𝔀𝓸𝓾𝓵𝓭𝓷'𝓽 𝓫𝓮 𝓽𝓸𝓰𝓮𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓻 𝓪𝓷𝔂 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮
Jan 29, 2022 3:08 AM

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Hmm. I thought that its fine just the way it is. Many in manga format there are many monologues and dialogues that wont come in between fights, but even when animated, I dont feel that is annoying or anything. Its fine just the way it is, or else people would say that Kny is just full of mindless action.
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Jan 29, 2022 4:14 AM

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1.) The word you're looking for is monologue.

2.) There is narration in the manga but the anime opts to cut it. Sometimes it doesn't matter but there are several moments where it should've stayed.

3.) The core issue is that the dialogue and monologue in the fights are bad which is derived from the manga. It just doesn't work when switching mediums and why I think Ufotable is a heavily flawed studio. They aren't at all transformative with KnY unlike say Fate(they also went too far on that series by cutting monologues). Basically, cut half the dialogue, keep the monologue, and add back the narrator with more creative imagery.


Jan 29, 2022 4:26 AM
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I don't think it needs one. It's not exactly difficult to tell what's going on.

Jan 29, 2022 6:02 AM
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Explaining while fighting is ok, but explanations that interrupt the fight is a bit annoying
Jan 29, 2022 6:20 AM
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Tanjiro is our narrator
Same with mha
Deku is narrator
Jan 29, 2022 8:16 PM

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Nah it doesn’t lack a narrator, it lacks good writing.
Jan 29, 2022 9:17 PM
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SAT_KUMAR said:
While reading some critical reviews and recent posts related to the second season of Demon Slayer, I came across a common issue that people are talking about and that is how stupid and cheesy some dialogues feel and how that somewhat interrupts the flow of certain episodes.

Well for me everything felt the same compared to last season although there is no doubt that there has certainly been an increase in flashbacks and thought-process (I don't know what's the technical term for that, but a period when the character talks to himself about an ongoing fight) during fight scenes which serves the purpose of explaining certain moves/powerups. And during these flashbacks the character acts as the Narrator.

So my simple question is, do you think an omniscient narrator could be somewhat useful in solving these issues?

For example, in episode 8 - While protecting Tengen from those flying blood sickles, Tanjirou begins to explain how water breathing is more suitable for deflecting a much powerful attack (this somewhat broke the flow of the fight)
I think with the help of a Narrator this scene could have been easily avoided or explained without breaking the flow



Why the fck would you need a narration for?
"Tanjiro cries from within after slaying a demon"
"Inosuke screams like an idiot as he usually do"
"Nezuko crawls back into the box after being used"
"Zenitsu doing cringe a*s shits "
Jan 30, 2022 5:16 AM

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"SHOW, DON'T TELL"
Narrator isn't needed in 99% of cases.
Jan 30, 2022 7:08 AM

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Tanjiro narrates 99% of what's going on during the fights anyway lol he pretty much already is the narrator.
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Jan 30, 2022 9:16 AM

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A narrator is very important. Some narration is required to enhance the show. Useless narration is not needed and Tanjiro does that.
Jan 30, 2022 10:20 AM

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90% of it is Tanjiro's monologues that spoil everything. I have nothing to do with long-read episodes, but god, his monologues are totally unnecessary. Tanjiro can complain at least several times during one episode about how everything hurts him, how strong his opponent is, how he has to do his best, etc., Jesus, what is it for? This does not build the plot at all, and even pisses off hellishly because the viewers are not 5-year-old kids who need to explain every emotion.
Jan 30, 2022 10:24 AM

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90% of it is Tanjiro's monologues that spoil everything. I have nothing to do with long-read episodes, but god, his monologues are totally unnecessary. Tanjiro can complain at least several times during one episode about how everything hurts him, how strong his opponent is, how he has to do his best, etc., Jesus, what is it for? This does not build the plot at all, and even pisses off hellishly because the viewers are not 5-year-old kids who need to explain every emotion.


Yeah lol. And his favourite sentence to describe how strong a demon is. "The smell is so bad. It hurts the back of my throat." A variation of this for every powerful demon lol. Tanjiro needs to shut up.
Jan 31, 2022 3:49 AM
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Just let the monologues be more calm , not shouting everything at the top of their lungs, problem solved

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