Would this anime be even better if they skip the cringe horny gags of Rudeus?

Oct 26, 2021 5:45 AM

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I won't say the horny gags are important but it does add a little more into the series everytime you see rudeus just watching someone. I feel like it's fine if it's there and I prefer it to be there.
Although it's just my personal opinion so please don't slew me with yours comments

Oct 26, 2021 5:57 AM

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Well, Rudeus not-horny is not-Rudeus, right?

Oct 26, 2021 6:03 AM

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As much as I love to laugh at those constantly whining "pure and virtuous" individuals, those gags are becoming old and they should tone it down.

Oct 26, 2021 6:03 AM

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Well, i think it would be boring because I find characters without flaws boring and it would make no sense without those scenes, when he got introduced as a jobless, horny and pedophilic scum in the real world.

Oct 26, 2021 6:05 AM

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The MT fandom is so wild. Y'all really think pedophilia is important to a fantasy series.

Oct 26, 2021 6:05 AM

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Well since Rudeus is so horny all the time it keeps reminding us that he used to be an ugly 34 year old hikikomori in his past life and had not left the house for 15-20 years. Not to mention he is a total virgin, can you imagine staying virgin for 45 years? It's no wonder he is trying to get laid all the time...and reincarnation will not suddenly change a man so quickly, a man who was jerking off during his parents' funeral.
Seeing Rudeus grow through out the series is what makes this show even better...you can already see how much he holds back around Eris.
I have not read the WN/LN but I believe (or hope) that these gags will get toned down as we go on and especially once he gets laid for real.

Oct 26, 2021 6:07 AM

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Yes and no; having read the entire novel, they are important to the story, but I don't think they are handled all that well in the anime. That's honestly it's only major flaw tbh.

Oct 26, 2021 6:15 AM

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It is his flaw and he is aware of it, the audience also knows it. Those are not just gags but they are crucial in his development and growth. It may look to you like some comedic gags and I can say that anime at times fails in showing them in the proper way. But you need to be reminded that we are watching this from his perspective and it is supposed to be fucked up. Am I defending Rudeus? No, I'm simply explaining why. Had you remove his hornyness, it wouldn't be Rudeus anymore and the point of the story is tied to his early behaviour, even if it is despicable. You wouldn't want to have a boring protagonist that doesn't change at all, and yet Rudeus is an example of one that growth and develops over the course of the entire franchise and that won't happen fast. You listed examples of behaviour which does make him remember that he is horny but he also considers himself to be a scum and even if it is not as visible in the anime, there are small signs of him changing, he even himself states that people do change in the latest episode and that is the message of MT.

Oct 26, 2021 6:17 AM

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johneaston said:
Yes and no; having read the entire novel, they are important to the story, but I don't think they are handled all that well in the anime. That's honestly it's only major flaw tbh.

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Oct 26, 2021 6:20 AM

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DoobieSam said:
The MT fandom is so wild. Y'all really think pedophilia is important to a fantasy series.

Your first mistake was to think that MT thinks that his aspect is important and not his other flaws and showcasing his other life and how he is still clinged to the past and cannot move on and the other was categorizing Mushoku as a fantasy series. It is much more than that, a coming of age story with fantasy as its background.

Oct 26, 2021 6:22 AM

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Its both yes and no tbh,without it its like taking some part of the story away so even its the horny gag is cringe and I don't like and appreciate to watch it I feel like its important ig

Oct 26, 2021 6:28 AM

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-Fluffy- said:

johneaston said:
Yes and no; having read the entire novel, they are important to the story, but I don't think they are handled all that well in the anime. That's honestly it's only major flaw tbh.

Bruh what is wrong with you 😂😂😂

Life is like a tube of toothpaste

Oct 26, 2021 6:31 AM

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I personally like the horny scenes, anime and light novel alike.
In fact it's one of the main reasons that I like the show, cuz I know if I'm isekaid I'm gonna be as horny as fudge (unless it's a re zero type world or something).
It may not be the case for everyone but I feel his constant horniness(?) makes him very relatable.

Life is like a tube of toothpaste

Oct 26, 2021 6:46 AM

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I think that one or two scenes about horny Rudeus would still provide all what the audience have to know about this side of he being an ugly fat neet bast* mind reborn as a kid.

In fact the manga version of MT, which LN readers hate so much, did exactly this. (I thought they was disliking the manga cause it skiped much of the story, but now i am afraid that the reason is also another).

But man, the recurrence of this gag in the anime sometimes give me impression i am watching this:

Oct 26, 2021 6:48 AM

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Insert the persona “but that’s the best part” meme here.

Oct 26, 2021 6:49 AM

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Namaryu said:

DoobieSam said:
The MT fandom is so wild. Y'all really think pedophilia is important to a fantasy series.

Your first mistake was to think that MT thinks that his aspect is important and not his other flaws and showcasing his other life and how he is still clinged to the past and cannot move on and the other was categorizing Mushoku as a fantasy series. It is much more than that, a coming of age story with fantasy as its background.

And yet this thread is specifically about the pedo stuff lol. This show could still display him as a scumbag without all that.

Oct 26, 2021 7:03 AM

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I'm not voting, because while the gags may be unnecessary, they don't affect how awesome the story is.

Oct 26, 2021 7:09 AM

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NO

It still feels like a Male Power Fantasy with one dimensional characters or background fodder

Oct 26, 2021 7:10 AM

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Wait till you see teen rudy

Oct 26, 2021 7:29 AM

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Because Rudy is a self-insert Mineta from BNHA and what's why.

Oct 26, 2021 7:36 AM

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Ricedumpismyname said:
I personally like the horny scenes, anime and light novel alike.
In fact it's one of the main reasons that I like the show, cuz I know if I'm isekaid I'm gonna be as horny as fudge (unless it's a re zero type world or something).
It may not be the case for everyone but I feel his constant horniness(?) makes him very relatable.

i’m glad you relate to a 40 year old pedophile who can’t control himself around little girls

Oct 26, 2021 7:41 AM

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No, everything rudeus does it part of his character development and it is the entire point of the story. This is a redemption arc for rudeus, its his story. To show the good side of his development, you need to show the bad side first. Paraphilia in MT is displayed realistically, just cuz ppl are too sensitive to understand or accept how realistic rudeus is as a character, does not mean the scenes arent impactful. Ppl are too fast to jump to conclusions without even trying to understand that some paraphilic disorders, like pedophilia are caused mostly by childhood trauma and in many cases its due to bullying. Society produces pedophiles and yet they dont want to take responsibility for it and instead of helping these ppl get better they discriminate them for their inhuman acts, completely ignoring their own mistakes.

bruh all of this doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s disgusting. what kinda development is it to look at a 12 girl in a sick way for 10000000th time to then go jerk off and the show to make a gag out of it. Not one time in the entire show has he reflected on his attraction to little girls, let alone feel bad for it/realize it’s fucked; what kinda redemption arc is this

Oct 26, 2021 7:47 AM

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Just be grateful that this anime got adapted in the first place.

Oct 26, 2021 7:50 AM

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It neither adds nor detracts imo, poll is based.
Its just how rudeus is written, it doesnt exactly bother me but i dont like it as well, if they expand on his behaviour on the future and use it as character development material of course its better for this show, this is too early for asking these questions.

Its like similar to asking is people being able to turn into titans good or bad when aot season 1 was mid airing, like it makes no sense.

Oct 26, 2021 7:51 AM

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A big big YES , but you know most of the WeEbS love these shitty things so a "NO" for them

Oct 26, 2021 7:58 AM

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Arizxna said:
what kinda development is it to look at a 12 girl in a sick way for 10000000th time to then go jerk off and the show to make a gag out of it. Not one time in the entire show has he reflected on his attraction to little girls, let alone feel bad for it/realize it’s fucked; what kinda redemption arc is this

Simple, in past life, Rudeus had this fetishes, but he was treated like the lowest scumbag human trash, being beaten the crap out of him by his brothers and finally kicked out of his parent's house.

Now, in another life, he can keep the same fetishes, but now he can be a hero.

See? Redemption. Profit.

Oct 26, 2021 8:06 AM

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"really change in just a decade ? Bruh"

If being killed, having a post-death experience, reborn as a baby, spend years in the body a kid learning everything back in another world, also learning again about family love, friendship you never had, and lots of very shocking experiences...

If this is not enough to change someone, well... The author surely wanted to keep something.

Oct 26, 2021 8:14 AM

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DoobieSam said:
The MT fandom is so wild. Y'all really think pedophilia is important to a fantasy series.

Mad facts, they will defend that kind of shit to their dying breath

Oct 26, 2021 8:38 AM

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Rob7 said:
Not mentioning the scenes that are actually part of the plot like Rudeus x Sylphy in the bath (season 1), but the short scenes without other point like:

- Rudeus is horny inside a box peeking nude underaged Eris and beast-kids.
- Rudeus mind remembering he is horny when beast-girls says "nyaa"
- Rudeus mind remembering he is horny because Eris is growing, and going to j* off thinking on it.
- Rudeus mind remembering he is horny after the first glance on pretty much every female introduced in some scene lol

Just a poll, choose what you would prefer, the slightest, even if you don't care.

Ok look he is a bad character and I am bored of All the goody two-shoes characters being the main focus all the time so yeah this is a good change of pace. Rudeus is horrible (but if he was peeking on grown-up women you would call it alright ?) Japanese people are not like us westerners (probably why loli porn exists), the author (a Japanese) wants us to feel like he is a pathetic loser and he does that in a distasteful yet convincing way since pedos actually exist.

Oct 26, 2021 8:45 AM

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Rob7 said:

Arizxna said:
what kinda development is it to look at a 12 girl in a sick way for 10000000th time to then go jerk off and the show to make a gag out of it. Not one time in the entire show has he reflected on his attraction to little girls, let alone feel bad for it/realize it’s fucked; what kinda redemption arc is this

Simple, in past life, Rudeus had this fetishes, but he was treated like the lowest scumbag human trash, being beaten the crap out of him by his brothers and finally kicked out of his parent's house.

Now, in another life, he can keep the same fetishes, but now he can be a hero.

See? Redemption. Profit.

This is hilarious… the problem is that he is keeping the same fetishes and living out this weird fantasy that’s perfect for him. now instead of being an old bum he can live out his gross fantasies as a boy; it’s disturbing and definitely not redeeming.

Oct 26, 2021 8:50 AM

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Tekainu said:

Arizxna said:

bruh all of this doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s disgusting. what kinda development is it to look at a 12 girl in a sick way for 10000000th time to then go jerk off and the show to make a gag out of it. Not one time in the entire show has he reflected on his attraction to little girls, let alone feel bad for it/realize it’s fucked; what kinda redemption arc is this

The anime didnt adapt the novel properly, rudeus in the light novel stopped himself during that eris scene in the bedroom and had an entire monologue why his actions were wrong. And I never said it is right, nor appropriate, but in these type of shows it is important to get the meanings behind certain developments. Also do you seriously expect someone who spent 40 years being a bum can really change in just a decade ? Bruh

I guess you could say it makes that scene a lil better but it doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen and that it didn’t wanna make me turn off the episode. It doesn’t feel like a redemption story and yes I’m expecting a full grown man to be able to change enough to control himself after living such a pathetic first life, this anime is disturbing, pathetic, and plain sad.

Oct 26, 2021 9:05 AM

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Ricedumpismyname said:

-Fluffy- said:

Bruh what is wrong with you 😂😂😂

It's actually true I was just confirming

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Oct 26, 2021 9:15 AM

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I think the jokes are really a problem, because breaking the seriousness of some scenes, I like characters with flaws but I think that mushoku tensei doesn't always make it work well

Oct 26, 2021 9:24 AM

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No. The "cringe" horny gags of Rudeus are important so they should not be skipped. What will make this anime even better is if they adapt some important scenes from the LN that were omitted in the anime.

Oct 26, 2021 9:49 AM

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Darkmatter4321 said:
I think the jokes are really a problem, because breaking the seriousness of some scenes, I like characters with flaws but I think that mushoku tensei doesn't always make it work well

Nice answer.

I'm having fun in this thread because actually i 10/10 MT. Thing is that i'm not that blind fan about any series, it is just entertainment to me and no matter i like, why not to touch a sore point?

My opinion on MT is the same on Made in Abyss, another amazing series that i 10/10 easily. BUT in both it is clear that the authors have some psychological issues.

No series is perfect at point it can't be better, and the excessive focus on Rudeus fetishes and the way he is confortable with this is an annoying flaw, yet very understandable if we think about the condition of the author.

Oct 26, 2021 10:06 AM

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This is a show for mature audience who know it's just a work of fiction.
If you get triggered by dirty jokes and have to go on a crusade on the internet to feel better, then you're better off by watching a PG-13 kids show instead.

Oct 26, 2021 10:10 AM

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100% better for sure.

Oct 26, 2021 11:20 AM

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Might as well make this a hentai then

Oct 26, 2021 11:20 AM

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R u even serious bro?
Do u want this to become like every other isekai anime?
Horny gags make this more enjoyable and unique

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Oct 26, 2021 11:32 AM

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You're cringe.
Horny gags for life!

Oct 26, 2021 11:34 AM

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Yes, "less" cringy horny gags the better, but not take them away sometimes it's still funny and important to the series.

Oct 26, 2021 11:38 AM

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-Fluffy- said:

Ricedumpismyname said:

Bruh what is wrong with you 😂😂😂

It's actually true I was just confirming

-Fluffy- said:

Ricedumpismyname said:

Bruh what is wrong with you 😂😂😂

It's actually true I was just confirming

Huh wow
Well this was spoiled for me
Totally my fault tho😅

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Oct 26, 2021 12:06 PM

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Yaggamy said:
This is a show for mature audience who know it's just a work of fiction.
If you get triggered by dirty jokes and have to go on a crusade on the internet to feel better, then you're better off by watching a PG-13 kids show instead.

This. Seriously once you got to the panty scene, or the bedroom scene(actually the first episode) you KNEW what kind of series this was, if you had such a problem with it why watch it?? Also, why does everyone call him a pedophile before? I just started reading so maybe I missed something, but I was under the impression that when his brother looked at his computer screen he was disgusted that he skipped the funeral to sit at home to jerk off, not that there was kids on the screen. But I guess I could be wrong. In the LN does it definitively say that he was looking at pedo material when they walked in on him? Like if I go look for that I'll find that? Or are people just laying that on his past life because of how he is now? Also I wonder how people would react to this series and Rudy, if he took the same actions, but wasn't Isekai'd and was just a pervy kid, probably would be the same or attack the Author, but I would have been curious to see how the people who bash the series would have reacted in that situation. Seriously I love this series and I believe we've already seen growth in him. First he's touching a girl while she's sleeping, then he's walking away to go take care of himself and people STILL bash him for that. Not saying I would ever touch a girl when she was sleeping, but this is fiction and going from that to this is definitely an improvement although it's a low bar. But he's a broken person with a ton of character flaws but that's part of what makes this story so much different than the other flawless Isekai MCs who are loved by all and never make a mistake. You can't redeem someone who is without fault.

Oct 26, 2021 12:11 PM

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His horny gags are funny to me and makes him one of my favorite characters. Kind of reminds me of Kazuma in some ways

Oct 26, 2021 12:13 PM

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I don't think that its "important to the series" but i think it makes the anime a lot more fun, idk why people nowadays always gotta cry about sexual stuff being in the story

I would understand if the anime was serious like aot or fmab, yeah the comedy or fanservice would ruin the story in those (like how the comedy ruined demon slayer and fmab for me) but mushoku tensei? Come on

Oct 26, 2021 12:15 PM

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Rob7 said:
BUT in both it is clear that the authors have some psychological issues.

Psychological issues such as...?

Oct 26, 2021 12:17 PM

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DKDiabloLicht said:
In the LN does it definitively say that he was looking at pedo material when they walked in on him? Like if I go look for that I'll find that?

In the LN it says he was watching loli hentai.

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Oct 26, 2021 12:17 PM

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Bro, wtf, this poll is showing that some very questionable perspectives are a bit too apparent if you ask me. These horny moments are not presented as horrible parts of Rudeus’ character. They are presented as comedic, and they normalize the idea of looking at fictional animated kids in this way (tbh, I’d say it goes even further than that, but I know that’ll piss people off). Pretty cool world and story otherwise tho.

Oct 26, 2021 12:25 PM

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No. The viewer may not realize it consciously but taming these scenes would make the story less authentic and his redemption less impactful. I commend the production team in being faithful to the source material even when they know it will cause controversy. Viewers watch anime with different expectations. Those that are not able to separate fiction from reality when it comes to this stuff probably should skip the series. I predict the payoff will be more dramatically effective if you stick with it but that is the viewer's choice.

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