| I see them as a romantic couple despite their age difference. |
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| at the very beginning i didn't see their love as romantic, i also felt like it was like a familiar kind of love but after finishing the anime, reading some fragments from the novel and seen their reunion and the way they talked to each other i got the feeling that they actually loved each other as a couple. i guess it depends on perspective. |
fernandawithluvMay 10, 2021 10:15 PM
| Ew. Shipping them is the very last thing I would ever do. That's disgusting |
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| Whether people ship them or not it makes zero difference. I don't think the end was left for interpretation in the anime, considering the very specific word for "love" they used. And Violet's tears waterfall. I say the anime because there was no doubt about it in the novel and the story continued afterwards. |
Itasuke_ said: The word “ aishiteru” that Gilbert said to Violet doesn’t usually be used in everyday conversations, people don’t use the word when they say “i love this food” or “i love this cloth”. It can only be used between lovers, in romantic relationships. Therefore I believe these two do have a romantic relationship between them Actually, it's not true and we have a perfect example in the series, with Gilbert's mother saying these exact same words (in Japanese, of course) about her son. "Ai" 愛 has a far deeper meaning than "suki" 好き or even "daisuki" 大好き, but it is not limited to romantic love. However, here, it's not completely clear what Gilbert's feelings are, even more so concerning Violet's of course, and I prefer it that way. In the novel, Gilbert doesn't know how he truly feels about her even at the end. He cares deeply for her, that's enough for me. |
KyragosMay 21, 2021 1:06 PM
| Lmao ya all are weird, the age gap means nothing. Not only they are a couple but they also get married in the novel. I don't get it why you need to force a father-daughter relationship whenever an age gap is involved |
Shiyuru99May 23, 2021 5:56 AM
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Shiyuru99 said: Lmao ya all are weird, the age gap means nothing. Not only they are a couple but the y are also married in the novel. I don't get it why you need to force a father-daughter relationship whenever an age gap is involved I'm sorry, they are WHAT? Did I read a different thing? I'm so confused right now. If they are actually married I'm going to have to re-read!!!!! |
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| They definitely got marriage, we all have to use our imaginations and imagine the conclusion we best wish/want |
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| I totally see them in a romantic way...I don't think the age difference is a problem as well. As long as there is love, it's fine. They finally found each other again after such a long time. They loved each other for a long time. (also the very last scene can only give that way of feeling) |
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| I see them living together as a couple, but probably not as a married couple. The power dynamic is so different since the last time they were together that I think it works well as a romance. |
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| Its a canon relationship though...Its not a ship made by the viewers Also it kinda makes sense since they both were the closest to each other though i was kinda surprised ngl |
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Kyragos said: Itasuke_ said: The word “ aishiteru” that Gilbert said to Violet doesn’t usually be used in everyday conversations, people don’t use the word when they say “i love this food” or “i love this cloth”. It can only be used between lovers, in romantic relationships. Therefore I believe these two do have a romantic relationship between them Actually, it's not true and we have a perfect example in the series, with Gilbert's mother saying these exact same words (in Japanese, of course) about her son. "Ai" 愛 has a far deeper meaning than "suki" 好き or even "daisuki" 大好き, but it is not limited to romantic love. However, here, it's not completely clear what Gilbert's feelings are, even more so concerning Violet's of course, and I prefer it that way. In the novel, Gilbert doesn't know how he truly feels about her even at the end. He cares deeply for her, that's enough for me. I know this is a little old, but I recently saw the TV series and movie and loved them both. I guess I'm in the camp that the love between Violet and Gilbert was romantic. I do see this argument come up against it though and I find it to be very misleading at best. Sure Aishiteru isn't used 100% just for romantic feelings of love, but is it usually, yes. It's a little weird in other contexts. In the scene with the mother, the subject is never stated. The mom never says "I" love him. It's left out completely, obviously on purpose. The scene with the mother basically can be read like this: "that boy lives. in heart. that's why ___ won't forget, even when's it's hard, will still remember, because love him". So it's open to interpretation. And in that scene you can pretty safely say that the mother is trying to comfort Violet. So most likely the mother is referring to "we", her and Violet or even just Violet, though most likely both. And in the scene after the mother says that, Violet replies "hai". Basically just affirming "yes ,we / I love him". It's seen as the mother comforting Violet or giving her advice / help, seeing as how much Violet misses her son. But if you want to say that scene is the mother saying "I love my son" then how do you see this scene actually? Here's a girl absolutely wrecked over Gilbert being gone and the mother is just like, "well he's not dead for me! i love him!, ha!". It's more likely that the mother could be saying "love" on Violet's behalf than for herself, but most likely "we". But one thing, she certainly isn't using Aishiterue in the sense of "I love him". Giving the context of the moment. So, in short this is very, very different from when Gilbert directly says it to her so saying "but his mom using it so it's not romantic" is misleading at best or just wrong. I will say that you could perhaps hear Aishiteru when it comes to a doting superior. So that argument would hold more ground for me. But honestly, when you watch them I find it hard to believe someone wouldn't see it as romantic. And I mean then there is the whole movie confession. I mean if you have two people saying, "don't cry or I'll cry" you know how this is. I've never read the novels so I don't know if the TV show and movie play with things, but from the TV and then especially the movie these are scene as romantic love confessions. I mean that's not even mentioning how she stays and lives with him on the island together. |
vault-dwellerAug 24, 2021 11:29 PM
| Isn't Violet 14 tho |
Rojaseb said: Isn't Violet 14 tho She's 18 in the sequel movie |
| Apparently they got married in some "Ever after" novel thing so suck on that I guess if it makes you uncomfortable. Gilbert aside, I think Violet is pretty much incapable of loving anyone else at this point. Not romantically anyway. So it's either this or clinging to his memory forever while focusing on other people's happiness. I like this ending for her though. Kissing immediately really wouldn't be in character for either of them and Violet not being able to express her feelings using words but instead relying on a letter to get through to Gilbert fits the overall theme of the show. So overall I'm pretty satisfied. |
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| Oh no, my western ass can't take it |
| I somehow agree with u........ |
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| I see them as more familial but the way they both said I love you at the end makes me think otherwise |
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| I appreciate the open-ended approach KyoAni took towards Violet and Gilbert’s relationship. They left it to the viewer to decided whether they wanted it to be romanticised or not. Which is a good thing given the questionable age gap between the two. |
brenobluhm said: SamXHat said: I mean, they tried to leave it as open as they could, but it’s pretty obvious to understand what happened lol. It’s a romantic relationship, in the light novel they even confirmed and they are married. So yeah, it’s romantic but they ended right when they meat each other again. The age thing is weird, but it was “normal” fro that time, Violete even said she didn’t really care about age gap during the anime when she goes to write a love letter for that princess.I appreciate the open-ended approach KyoAni took towards Violet and Gilbert’s relationship. They left it to the viewer to decided whether they wanted it to be romanticised or not. Which is a good thing given the questionable age gap between the two. Yeah I agree, it's pretty easy for the viewer to figure out. I personally wish Violet would've gotten with someone else like Leon or something. |
SamXHatOct 24, 2021 5:14 AM
NaCreamy said: Does anyone else see a romantic relationship between these two after seeing the movie? Because i don't, i only see their relationship as a father and a daughter but my friend sees them getting maried after the movie. Am i the only one who does this? I also saw them as daughter and father or older brother and lil sister. But I can see why people feel like they having a romantic relationship, escpacially after the ending of the movie. I personally find it weird, that gilbert was like about 15 years older than violet (she was just about 10 when they met), he raised her, taught her to read and write, and treated her like a daughter ... I'd find it strange if he had romantic feelings for her, as if he had grown his future love. especially when you consider that violet was very manipulable at the beginning of their relationship. It's like a guy in his twentys would adopt a 10yo child and when she turns 18 he wants to marry her... idk, but thats just feels sooo wrong. that gives me pedophile vibes. But when you see their relationship as a father daughter or brother sister relationship, I don't find it strange anymore. ManWild said: Ew. Shipping them is the very last thing I would ever do. That's disgusting abslutely agree. raising a 10 yo child to marry her when she tun 18 would be so dusgusting... Idk why so many ppl are totally okay with that. Shiyuru99 said: Lmao ya all are weird, the age gap means nothing. Not only they are a couple but they also get married in the novel. I don't get it why you need to force a father-daughter relationship whenever an age gap is involved my problem isn't the age gap in general. it's the fact, that he raised her like a daughter... he met her while she was around 10. It's like a guy adopts a 10yo just to marry her when she turns 18. Sorry, its just my opinion, but that gives me pedophilic vibes... thats why I see them as father and daughter or brother and sister. But as I said, its just my opinion. anonymous_fan said: Saying those two didn't feel romantic love towards each other is like saying the skies aren't blue. They clearly loved each other deeply, got married (pinky promise to be together forever at the end of the credits) and they maybe even had kids (depends how you interpret the role of the older guy from the post office at the end of the movie but he sure looked a lot like Gilbert to me). I don't understand why everything has to be mentioned, they are obviously in love. And there are happy couples with age differences out there. The age diffrence isn't a problem in general. My problem is just, that gilbert raised her like a daughter while she was a kid. It's a huge diffrence if a girl with 18 met a guy 15 older than her and loving him, or a guy adopting a child just to marry her when she turns 18. As I said, I dont have a problem with the age gap in general, it's just the fact, that kids are manipulable and he was the only person who treat her like a human being... sure she got feelings for him... but he shouldn't bc that's pretty pedophilic in my personal opinion. No offence or something, just my thoughts. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
KuniiMay 2, 2022 6:44 PM
| the romance is arguably the weakest part of violet evergarden for me. what makes the original run a 10/10 for me was how it managed to tug the heartstrings of many from just a series of bittersweet episodic stories. aside from violet herself, it doesn't really help the fact that we have minimal investment on gilbert as a her love interest too. other from that ambiguous expression of love at the beginning, there wasn't enough development for him as a character to build a compelling romance off of. we got shown a few glimpses of that in the film, but in the end, it wasn't enough, and the sudden spark of romantic affection from him felt a little bit shoehorned for me. eh but violet deserves happiness, so I'm happy for her. |
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