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I was worried after seing the low score... But seeing 1st episode I believe only some people have read the manga

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Apr 11, 2021 12:16 AM
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The manga is a gem no doubt and if adapted properly it's an 8 pointer minimum.
So, seeing it at 7.38 is a shocker. I got the neverland s2 feels on seeing the score tbh!! But the 1st episode was a decent adaption (apart from the spoilery things). So, it just seems manga is not as popular as I thought it to be and people are rating it just based on ep 1.

Hope, clover work doesn't mess this up like Neverland. This is AOTS candidate.
shubh_jain_2Apr 11, 2021 1:27 AM
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Apr 11, 2021 12:25 AM
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Also, the pacing seems to be 6 chapters per episode. Hope they don't pace it faster than this at least.
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Apr 11, 2021 12:41 AM
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I'm thinking of getting into this anime, I haven't read the manga but plot is promising.
Can you tell me how was the adaptation for it? Was it good because 6 chap/ep is a lot.
Apr 11, 2021 12:50 AM
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PiedPiper_ said:
I'm thinking of getting into this anime, I haven't read the manga but plot is promising.
Can you tell me how was the adaptation for it? Was it good because 6 chap/ep is a lot.


The adaptation is good they also managed to keep the style of the manga. For this manga, each chapter has 10-15 pages. I didn't feel they rushed pacing or anything
Apr 11, 2021 12:58 AM
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PiedPiper_ said:
I'm thinking of getting into this anime, I haven't read the manga but plot is promising.
Can you tell me how was the adaptation for it? Was it good because 6 chap/ep is a lot.


Yeah, I found the pace perfect. But if they increase it further, it might be problematic. Hope they keep it at 5/6 chapters per episode. Each chapter is around 12 pages (while a normal manga would be 20-25) So it's like adapting 3-3.5 chapters roughly.

And the manga is wonderful. Rather than being like Death Note/TPN which catches attention from the beginning, this one builds mystery and thus gets better with each passing chapter/episode.

Hence you might observe the low rating of 7.38 when it really deserves much more. The fact that the manga is not popular means its rating will evolve pretty much as an anime original would. The only difference is we manga readers already know this one is amazing.
shubh_jain_2Apr 11, 2021 1:04 AM
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Apr 11, 2021 1:36 AM
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Low score? Since when is a 7.38 aggregate a low score? 7 means good and it's 7.38 so it's slightly better than good, but not very good. A low score is 5 and below. Also the true score of a show only comes after finishing. I mean look at Neverland S2 started as an 8.something and then it dropped. It also helps to look at what that aggregate score consists of. What did most people give it?
Apr 11, 2021 1:48 AM
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Low score? Since when is a 7.38 aggregate a low score? 7 means good and it's 7.38 so it's slightly better than good, but not very good. A low score is 5 and below. Also the true score of a show only comes after finishing. I mean look at Neverland S2 started as an 8.something and then it dropped. It also helps to look at what that aggregate score consists of. What did most people give it?

Usually good mangas start with a good score unless the adaption is messed up. 7.38 is a low score for a good manga/anime. 7 means good means nothing, it's an ideal yardstick who no one uses. So a score of 7.38 for a good manga means
1. Poor adaption
2. No hype for anime
I am happy it seems case 2 is applicable here.
Anyway I am pretty sure it would be 7.8 by episode 5/6.
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Apr 11, 2021 2:45 AM
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There's definitely, sadly, not much hype for this show, at least on MAL (hopefully it does better in Japan). I've began reading manga right away and ep 1 consists of chapters 1-7, though anime added a bit more content here and there. Manga chapters aren't that big (yet at least), so they may adapt all the aired chapters if the series has 13 eps.
Apr 11, 2021 3:45 AM
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this is a trash series , is so stupid
Apr 11, 2021 3:59 AM
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shubh_jain_2 said:
PringleLee said:
Low score? Since when is a 7.38 aggregate a low score? 7 means good and it's 7.38 so it's slightly better than good, but not very good. A low score is 5 and below. Also the true score of a show only comes after finishing. I mean look at Neverland S2 started as an 8.something and then it dropped. It also helps to look at what that aggregate score consists of. What did most people give it?

Usually good mangas start with a good score unless the adaption is messed up. 7.38 is a low score for a good manga/anime. 7 means good means nothing, it's an ideal yardstick who no one uses. So a score of 7.38 for a good manga means
1. Poor adaption
2. No hype for anime
I am happy it seems case 2 is applicable here.
Anyway I am pretty sure it would be 7.8 by episode 5/6.

This series starts out really slow and not much happens in episode 1, so I'm not surprised that it has a relatively low rating.

I do think they made some major fucks up in this first episode too, I already talked about that in another post.
Apr 11, 2021 4:00 AM

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this is a trash series , is so stupid

Ohh... I see...
I will pretend not reading yr comment. Let's continue.
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Apr 11, 2021 1:30 PM
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Waiting for cloverworks to catch up to the manga in the next episode 🥰
Apr 11, 2021 1:36 PM
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Hopefully trashworks won't speedrun this




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Apr 11, 2021 1:40 PM

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Acting like the score is 5
Apr 11, 2021 1:42 PM

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Because its "boring slice of life".

Honestly, I don't even know why I enjoy this. It kinda feels like a drug, its extremely enjoyable but I don't even know why myself. Like if someone asks me "why do you like this?" I won't be able to answer that.
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Apr 11, 2021 1:44 PM

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PringleLee said:
Low score? Since when is a 7.38 aggregate a low score? 7 means good and it's 7.38 so it's slightly better than good, but not very good. A low score is 5 and below. Also the true score of a show only comes after finishing. I mean look at Neverland S2 started as an 8.something and then it dropped. It also helps to look at what that aggregate score consists of. What did most people give it?


i remember seeing it at 9.n after ep 3, reach 7.m after ep 10 and then rocketing down after ep 11
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Apr 11, 2021 3:25 PM

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I'm not surprised. It's a deceptive story, that starts pretty slow and takes its time to unfold. When I started reading the manga I remember its score was barely above 7, now it's already at 8 (still a very low score imo, but welp, it's getting there). I'm kinda disappointed with how they started the first episode though.
The score will probably go up as more episodes come out, provided it's a good adaptation. I can already imagine the kind of discussions and comparisons this anime will draw in the next few weeks.
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Because its "boring slice of life".

Heh.
Apr 11, 2021 3:32 PM

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Satyr_icon said:
I'm not surprised. It's a deceptive story, that starts pretty slow and takes its time to unfold. When I started reading the manga I remember its score was barely above 7, now it's already at 8 (still a very low score imo, but welp, it's getting there). I'm kinda disappointed with how they started the first episode though.
The score will probably go up as more episodes come out, provided it's a good adaptation. I can already imagine the kind of discussions and comparisons this anime will draw in the next few weeks.
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Because its "boring slice of life".

Heh.


I put it in quotes because I doubt its just gonna be a SOL lol.
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Apr 11, 2021 5:28 PM
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Satyr_icon said:
I'm not surprised. It's a deceptive story, that starts pretty slow and takes its time to unfold. When I started reading the manga I remember its score was barely above 7, now it's already at 8 (still a very low score imo, but welp, it's getting there). I'm kinda disappointed with how they started the first episode though.
The score will probably go up as more episodes come out, provided it's a good adaptation. I can already imagine the kind of discussions and comparisons this anime will draw in the next few weeks.

I'm not surprised either. I agree that the manga(now anime) starts slow and gets better with time, plus the current score of the anime seems pretty decent to me, I was a little nervous about people's reception.
Yes, the manga deserves a higher score. I hope the anime manages to increase the manga's score.
It's clear that the anime's score is going to increase as the episodes progress.. If they adapt the manga well, this anime will be very well received.
Apr 11, 2021 5:33 PM

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It's at a 7.45 (look how much it bumped since you started the thread). For a new anime that has no sequels and isn't a super hyped manga that is pretty typical and not bad at all. If the series continues to be good the score will climb. Also like some have said is it really bad it is 6 CH? If it's like 10 pages a chapter that is half what the average weekly manga usually has and most anime adaptions adapt 3-4 chapters an episode. Regardless I didn't feel it was rushed at all.
Apr 11, 2021 6:11 PM
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BilboBaggins365 said:
It's at a 7.45 (look how much it bumped since you started the thread). For a new anime that has no sequels and isn't a super hyped manga that is pretty typical and not bad at all. If the series continues to be good the score will climb. Also like some have said is it really bad it is 6 CH? If it's like 10 pages a chapter that is half what the average weekly manga usually has and most anime adaptions adapt 3-4 chapters an episode. Regardless I didn't feel it was rushed at all.

Well, the manga is increasing its pages as the chapters go by, about 15 to 18 pages per chapter, plus some things that happen deserve a slow pace in the anime. Well, my opinion.
Finally, this first episode was a mix of the first 6 chapters of the manga, they changed the order of events, cut dialogues (what always happens in adaptations, nothing new) and joined it with some original material.
Apr 11, 2021 7:16 PM

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Sigmar-Unberogen said:
There's definitely, sadly, not much hype for this show, at least on MAL (hopefully it does better in Japan). I've began reading manga right away and ep 1 consists of chapters 1-7, though anime added a bit more content here and there. Manga chapters aren't that big (yet at least), so they may adapt all the aired chapters if the series has 13 eps.


No, even if they keep the current bit too fast pace of 7 chapters per ep they will reach chapter 70, if they wanted to reach chapter 96 they'd have to cut out a lot and then I think there is nothing else for us to do than to cancel studio cloverworks forever.

Fortunatley, based on op and ed, it really looks like it will end at the end of debut arc or shortly later
Apr 11, 2021 7:21 PM

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KuroNekoAlchemy said:
Sigmar-Unberogen said:
There's definitely, sadly, not much hype for this show, at least on MAL (hopefully it does better in Japan). I've began reading manga right away and ep 1 consists of chapters 1-7, though anime added a bit more content here and there. Manga chapters aren't that big (yet at least), so they may adapt all the aired chapters if the series has 13 eps.


No, even if they keep the current bit too fast pace of 7 chapters per ep they will reach chapter 70, if they wanted to reach chapter 96 they'd have to cut out a lot and then I think there is nothing else for us to do than to cancel studio cloverworks forever.

Fortunatley, based on op and ed, it really looks like it will end at the end of debut arc or shortly later


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KuroNekoAlchemy said:


No, even if they keep the current bit too fast pace of 7 chapters per ep they will reach chapter 70, if they wanted to reach chapter 96 they'd have to cut out a lot and then I think there is nothing else for us to do than to cancel studio cloverworks forever.

Fortunatley, based on op and ed, it really looks like it will end at the end of debut arc or shortly later




7 chapters an ep would end up a bit like that, but i hope they will tone it down to like 5 an ep and maybe add some slice of life extra scenes to pad it out and we won't go that far cause that would be ending the series at very not good type of cliffhanger

end of debut arc is a good cliffhanger, or
Apr 11, 2021 8:24 PM

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KuroNekoAlchemy said:
Germs_N_Spices said:




7 chapters an ep would end up a bit like that, but i hope they will tone it down to like 5 an ep and maybe add some slice of life extra scenes to pad it out and we won't go that far cause that would be ending the series at very not good type of cliffhanger

end of debut arc is a good cliffhanger, or
the OP and ED suggest that it ends on
so I think that is the good stopping point and felt conclusive and open for sequel


Apr 11, 2021 10:11 PM

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I'll be honest, saw this coming way before I see any numbers.
Why? Because it starts out a bit slow (and this was inevitable, even I felt that with the manga).

However thanks to cloverwork not sticking in too much with Kate and Emilico part and utilize that with only the first episode, next one will take off with showing the world of shadow house and every other characters which is where the fun begins.

From there I'm very certain the ratings will gradually goes up, so keep up your hopes for now.
Apr 12, 2021 3:34 PM
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I don't know much about the concerns of pacing. The manga itself kinda speeds past a lot of things. I think it's fine, especially since it'll probably slow down a bit after the next episode because simply put, there's just a lot going on in pretty much all of the chapters past 8.
Apr 12, 2021 10:17 PM

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I don't know much about the concerns of pacing. The manga itself kinda speeds past a lot of things. I think it's fine, especially since it'll probably slow down a bit after the next episode because simply put, there's just a lot going on in pretty much all of the chapters past 8.

Yeah, that's why I hope they slow it down to 5 chapters per episode or atleast not > 6. Although I found ep 1 adaption to be great
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Apr 13, 2021 12:02 AM
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Anything over an 8 is usually reserved for the crazy-popular mainstream stuff like shounen (with some exceptions but basically the stuff that draws in a lot of viewers) isn't it? Some really enjoyable anime that I've seen are rated lower than 7. 7.38 is fine.

But yeah, since only one episode has come out, the score is bound to change.
AnimeLeviathan said:
Because its "boring slice of life".

Honestly, I don't even know why I enjoy this. It kinda feels like a drug, its extremely enjoyable but I don't even know why myself. Like if someone asks me "why do you like this?" I won't be able to answer that.


It's just nice and chill. For now. I didn't understand what it would be about based on the synopsis (and I honestly still don't) but Emirico and Kate are nice characters and the art is cute. It does quiet moments well and doesn't overwhelm you with too much at once.
Apr 13, 2021 12:16 AM

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We are still at the first episode anyway... I'm sure of it that its score is gonna rise. Knowing most people likes to rate animes high specifically on mainstream.
Apr 13, 2021 12:31 AM

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I don't even see the purpose of rating an anime series anyway until it's completed and you yourself have seen it in full. Rating any series after the first episode stands out as especially ridiculous and meaningless.
Apr 13, 2021 5:13 AM

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You don't need to read the source material to give score to an adaptation. If it gets better, the score will go up. Stop being obsessed with scores.
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Anything over an 8 is usually reserved for the crazy-popular mainstream stuff like shounen (with some exceptions but basically the stuff that draws in a lot of viewers) isn't it? Some really enjoyable anime that I've seen are rated lower than 7. 7.38 is fine.



People who view ratings so strictly are not going to have a good time on MAL.

Scores do not dictate quality. Some of MY all time favorites are rated 6-7, and that's their loss, I say. And yet we have Code Gayass as one of the top rated animes here.... numbers mean jack shit.
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