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Mar 21, 2021 1:15 PM
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I just finished last ep of season one and was really happy i watched this anime because it was amazing in my opinion and i rated it 9/10
so i pressed completed and then looked at "mOsT hElPfUl" reviews and i dont think this amazing anime doesnt deserve such a bad reviews. Some people might get scared away because of those trolls. Like seriously im kinda sad this is the first thing you see when you open this anime and scroll down. And why so many people voted for it as helpful review ?
What a shame.



Anyways
thanks for the ride
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Mar 21, 2021 1:27 PM
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Nah bro. The astralbread review is amazing. Just like the 1/10 review on aot fianl season a while ago
Mar 21, 2021 1:28 PM
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When people be hating so hard, you already know how good this show is. Just feels good when I am collecting hate tears from the haters, because it just confirmed it's a great show.
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Mar 21, 2021 1:30 PM
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I've seen plenty of people do these just to get attention nowadays, I doubt some of them actually watched the show.
Mar 21, 2021 1:33 PM
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mal reviews pretty much go by vocal minority > silent majority, need something to even out the 80% majority who rated 8-10 😂
Mar 21, 2021 1:33 PM
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This anime is either for you, or not for you. I myself really enjoy it, especially the animation, but I can see how mc's pedophilic tendency can turn some people off. So if one really cannot handle it 1/10 is pretty "reasonable", but if they gave it 1/10 for a bad writing/bad world building then I don't know pretty weird if you ask me
Mar 21, 2021 1:35 PM
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This anime is either for you, or not for you. I myself really enjoy it, especially the animation, but I can see how mc's pedophilic tendency can turn some people off. So if one really cannot handle it 1/10 is pretty "reasonable", but if they gave it 1/10 for a bad writing/bad world building then I don't know pretty weird if you ask me

yeah i also rate 14th century 1/10 and it should be canceled and erased from history
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Mar 21, 2021 1:36 PM
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Ignore that Panda Police's review entirely.

He's super double standard in his standard and marking metric.
He gave garbage show like Akadema Drive high review but he gave all the iskeai show trash review.
Mar 21, 2021 1:36 PM
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This is a pointless thread since you can copy/paste it on literally 98% of all top shows. What matters is the score, don't you agree? So far, the show has very good score, so who the F cares about some reviews?! I didn't like this show that much and gave it 6/10, but even I don't care about which review gets on top. If you ask me, I'd ask the same question about people who give it 10/10 or 9/10. At the end of the day, this anime failed to feel special to me at all!
Mar 21, 2021 1:36 PM
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It's too good to be an isekai. Probably the best isekai I've seen together with Slime.

People are just triggered Rudy did some questionable things. Don't mind them.
Mar 21, 2021 1:37 PM
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because they are hypocrites. accuse this of paedophilia even though they watch anime (anime is for pedos)
Mar 21, 2021 1:38 PM
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L0sMichal0s said:
say217 said:
This anime is either for you, or not for you. I myself really enjoy it, especially the animation, but I can see how mc's pedophilic tendency can turn some people off. So if one really cannot handle it 1/10 is pretty "reasonable", but if they gave it 1/10 for a bad writing/bad world building then I don't know pretty weird if you ask me

yeah i also rate 14th century 1/10 and it should be canceled and erased from history

I mean, rudy's not from 14th century, and one can argue that he is a pedophile and if you can't handle that then this show is pretty much not for you. For me though, rudy maybe has some shit personality but he is a great character. And I guess "reasonable" is not the right word, I just can see where they came from. getting canceled though... no, even shitshow like ex-arm deserve to exist.
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Sigmar-Unberogen said:
This is a pointless thread since you can copy/paste it on literally 98% of all top shows. What matters is the score, don't you agree? So far, the show has very good score, so who the F cares about some reviews?! I didn't like this show that much and gave it 6/10, but even I don't care about which review gets on top. If you ask me, I'd ask the same question about people who give it 10/10 or 9/10. At the end of the day, this anime failed to feel special to me at all!

yes but those "MOST HELPFUL" reviews are supposed to be helpful and not just biased on US standards and current SJW trends on social media and cancel culture
i bet there are people who decide if they want to watch a show or not based on top reviews and those reviews are everything but helpful
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Mar 21, 2021 1:40 PM

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Have you considered people may have a different opinion?
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Mar 21, 2021 1:40 PM

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Welcome to MAL.

As soon an anime changes to finished airing there is always a group of reviewers ready to post their text without even seeing the last episode. There is also a legion of fake accounts ready to force the review at the top. It's all about timing rather than quality. MAL should drop the helpful button and show reviews randomly at the anime page.
Mar 21, 2021 1:41 PM

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Have you considered people may have a different opinion?

im okay with those reviews i respect opinions of others but those reviews are definitely not MOST HELPFUL and dont deserve to be on top page of this great anime
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Welcome to MAL.

As soon an anime changes to finished airing there is always a group of reviewers ready to post their text without even seeing the last episode. There is also a legion of fake accounts ready to force the review at the top. It's all about timing rather than quality. MAL should drop the helpful button and show reviews randomly at the anime page.

nahh i think they should add unhelpful review or bad review button to balance it out
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Mar 21, 2021 1:43 PM

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L0sMichal0s said:
ag_ said:
Have you considered people may have a different opinion?

im okay with those reviews i respect opinions of others but those reviews are definitely not MOST HELPFUL and dont deserve to be on top page of this great anime

Hundreds of people gave them helpful, whether that may be botting or not, there's a reason they're so high. People agree with them.
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Welcome to MAL where the average IQ is ~80.
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ag_ said:
L0sMichal0s said:

im okay with those reviews i respect opinions of others but those reviews are definitely not MOST HELPFUL and dont deserve to be on top page of this great anime

Hundreds of people gave them helpful, whether that may be botting or not, there's a reason they're so high. People agree with them.

nahh objectively speaking those reviews are not helpful or right.
thats like if top review of spiderman would be 1/10 because i hate spiders and so many people relate its not helpful
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Mar 21, 2021 1:45 PM

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Loud minority be loud minority

But I understand where they are coming from and why they make those reviews. A show can be the most gorgeous thing in the world with the best characters and most intriguing story ever, but if it has one disgusting aspect that can't be ignored, then the disgusting aspect takes presence over everything else.

For some, it is really hard to look past the borderline pedophilia in the anime. You can justify it all you want, but in the end what most will take away from the anime is that the morally questionable protagonist assaults people rather then the actual qualities of the anime itself.

Personally, even if some of its elements are fucking disgusting, I could look past it for a really, really good isekai. Especially the last episodes were some of the bets isekai had to offer. But good god does the anime horniness hold it back for me.

For me, it is a 7/10. Without its horniness, it would have been a 9/10. I hope that further down the line in the anime it throws away its horniness.
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L0sMichal0s said:
ag_ said:

Hundreds of people gave them helpful, whether that may be botting or not, there's a reason they're so high. People agree with them.

nahh objectively speaking those reviews are not helpful or right.
thats like if top review of spiderman would be 1/10 because i hate spiders and so many people relate its not helpful

A review is objectively helpful if the review is factually wrong. Opinion is opinion, and reading the reviews, people were talking about the pedophilia and stuff. I've admittedly only seen half of the first episode, but that immediately put me off as well, so it is a valid criticism.
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Just finished it myself, it's a 9/10 for sure. The animation alone is amazing, every fight scene has been great, every bit of world building has been amazing. Everyone is still mad about Rudy being a fucking weirdo/creep, and not realized that he's changing (that also doesn't mean he's the best person ever). The reviews are shit. But if this is going to be the long running anime they say it's gonna be/the quality doesn't change; then I think a LOT of people are going to change they're view on it. Probably to positive.
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They said the "not helpful" button was removed for making the review system more reliable and to avoid abuse. Yes, makes perfect sense...
Mar 21, 2021 1:51 PM

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in the end what most will take away from the anime is that the morally questionable protagonist assaults people rather then the actual qualities of the anime itself.


What a stupid way to look at literature.
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at times like this i find this video very helpful
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What's going on in this thread?

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at times like this i find this video very helpful
I actually chuckled at that lol
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L0sMichal0s said:
Sigmar-Unberogen said:
This is a pointless thread since you can copy/paste it on literally 98% of all top shows. What matters is the score, don't you agree? So far, the show has very good score, so who the F cares about some reviews?! I didn't like this show that much and gave it 6/10, but even I don't care about which review gets on top. If you ask me, I'd ask the same question about people who give it 10/10 or 9/10. At the end of the day, this anime failed to feel special to me at all!

yes but those "MOST HELPFUL" reviews are supposed to be helpful and not just biased on US standards and current SJW trends on social media and cancel culture
i bet there are people who decide if they want to watch a show or not based on top reviews and those reviews are everything but helpful


I don't know... I may be too biased about the following opinion, but If I were to see a top score anime with 1/10 3/10 top reviews, I'd be suspicious enough to check the anime myself, just to get to the truth on my own. It just wouldn't make sense otherwise. I mean, how can something be popular + highly rated but is actually shit? I agree that some people may be mislead thanks to these reviews, but the number of such people has to be VERY small in my opinion.

The only thing I find weird about this whole thing though is, how come these reviews get more votes than the ones praising the show?

I have a suspicion that only extremists from both sides actually care about the reviews. Usually it's only haters or biased people who put the shows on pedestals. Only rarely would you find those who actually give a decent criticism. For this reason I usually ignore the reviews. I mean, I've seen unimaginable gibberish as top reviews on some of my beloved shows so I gave up giving any credit to reviews in general. I'll just stick to scores.
Mar 21, 2021 1:55 PM

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MAL Scores and reviews just can't be taken seriously anymore, especially when it comes to popular shows like Mushoku.

Let's hope this doesn't happen with the next cour
Mar 21, 2021 1:56 PM

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I'm telling you now, about all those reviews have probably had 20 or so odd people actually read them. Welcome to the seasonal chaos lol.
Mar 21, 2021 1:57 PM

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Loud minority be loud minority

But I understand where they are coming from and why they make those reviews. A show can be the most gorgeous thing in the world with the best characters and most intriguing story ever, but if it has one disgusting aspect that can't be ignored, then the disgusting aspect takes presence over everything else.

For some, it is really hard to look past the borderline pedophilia in the anime. You can justify it all you want, but in the end what most will take away from the anime is that the morally questionable protagonist assaults people rather then the actual qualities of the anime itself.

Personally, even if some of its elements are fucking disgusting, I could look past it for a really, really good isekai. Especially the last episodes were some of the bets isekai had to offer. But good god does the anime horniness hold it back for me.

For me, it is a 7/10. Without its horniness, it would have been a 9/10. I hope that further down the line in the anime it throws away its horniness.

I mean MC is supposed to be morally questionable and other characters too they are definitely not portrayed as heroes or good people. Its not supporting their behaviour so i dont see whats so wrong about this and why one or two scenes overshadow 11 amazing episodes
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Just gotta remember that it’s so easy to hate. I’ve never wanted to hate any single anime I’ve ever watched. Faults are EAAAASSSSY to spot, which is why hate trolls (they’ll call it their opinions) target the absolute hell outta these threads. Just stay positive brother. I’ve been around this site for like 7 or 8 years and they’ll always be here. You’ll be happier just letting them talk
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L0sMichal0s said:
Groenboys said:
Loud minority be loud minority

But I understand where they are coming from and why they make those reviews. A show can be the most gorgeous thing in the world with the best characters and most intriguing story ever, but if it has one disgusting aspect that can't be ignored, then the disgusting aspect takes presence over everything else.

For some, it is really hard to look past the borderline pedophilia in the anime. You can justify it all you want, but in the end what most will take away from the anime is that the morally questionable protagonist assaults people rather then the actual qualities of the anime itself.

Personally, even if some of its elements are fucking disgusting, I could look past it for a really, really good isekai. Especially the last episodes were some of the bets isekai had to offer. But good god does the anime horniness hold it back for me.

For me, it is a 7/10. Without its horniness, it would have been a 9/10. I hope that further down the line in the anime it throws away its horniness.

I mean MC is supposed to be morally questionable and other characters too they are definitely not portrayed as heroes or good people. Its not supporting their behaviour so i dont see whats so wrong about this and why one or two scenes overshadow 11 amazing episodes
I mean, most people would not be okay with an adult molesting a little girl and the anime actively making that look comedic. Honestly, if this aspect didn't overshadow the whole anime for most people I would be really concerned.

Also, there are better ways to make a flawed protagonist then making the protagonist assault little girls, which makes the horny scenes not only creepy, but also pointless.
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You was wrong the moment you talked about reviews. Finding a good review in MAL is very hard. Its not a review site afterall. Most reviews are just people who write without any actual logic. I mean some people rate it 1 even tho its animation is just amazing, Thats why the reviews are extremely useless for most people. Its only useful if you want to read other people's opinions. Personally i dont since most of the different opinions have lies in it which is why i dont like it
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L0sMichal0s said:
Groenboys said:
Loud minority be loud minority

But I understand where they are coming from and why they make those reviews. A show can be the most gorgeous thing in the world with the best characters and most intriguing story ever, but if it has one disgusting aspect that can't be ignored, then the disgusting aspect takes presence over everything else.

For some, it is really hard to look past the borderline pedophilia in the anime. You can justify it all you want, but in the end what most will take away from the anime is that the morally questionable protagonist assaults people rather then the actual qualities of the anime itself.

Personally, even if some of its elements are fucking disgusting, I could look past it for a really, really good isekai. Especially the last episodes were some of the bets isekai had to offer. But good god does the anime horniness hold it back for me.

For me, it is a 7/10. Without its horniness, it would have been a 9/10. I hope that further down the line in the anime it throws away its horniness.

I mean MC is supposed to be morally questionable and other characters too they are definitely not portrayed as heroes or good people. Its not supporting their behaviour so i dont see whats so wrong about this and why one or two scenes overshadow 11 amazing episodes


It's nothing but emotional disgust. It's the same rationale as the very small percentage of people (mainly middle aged people and older) who are disgusted by games like GTA where violence is "glorified" (except in the GTA case the rationale is more justifiable because it is primarily focused on violence and crime while Mushoku Tensei isn't focused on "pedophilia").
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Top review is based, the shoujo ramune pfp makes it even better.
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I think this is MAL logic:

High mean score=top reviews giving it low scores

Btw this is what I mean by mean score:
Mar 21, 2021 2:06 PM

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It is a good show, really nice animation and story is interesting as well. I do think the reason is how after a really serious moment which makes you think that Ruby has grown he goes and does something really questionable, for me that's what's holding it back and that why i gave it a 8/10 instead of 9-10/10.



















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I guess it is just that the people that liked this haven't posted enough reviews yet. (If you don't takt the preliminary reviews into account that probably always get placed lower once the "real" reviews start to get posted.)

The people that didn't like it probably already had prepared their rant before the final episode aired while the people that like it ... will start writing only now.

Once more reviews are out ... we'll ge tto see reviews that liked the anime at the top.

Happens for other anime as well. There are also some anime where the reviewer scores are totally different from the mean score. Though that is a bit rare. I expect a mix of people that liked it ant people that hated it.

Visuals and sound were great and no annoying chars - would be weird if only low-scorer reviews were on top. Give it some time.
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Groenboys said:
L0sMichal0s said:

I mean MC is supposed to be morally questionable and other characters too they are definitely not portrayed as heroes or good people. Its not supporting their behaviour so i dont see whats so wrong about this and why one or two scenes overshadow 11 amazing episodes
I mean, most people would not be okay with an adult molesting a little girl and the anime actively making that look comedic. Honestly, if this aspect didn't overshadow the whole anime for most people I would be really concerned.

Also, there are better ways to make a flawed protagonist then making the protagonist assault little girls, which makes the horny scenes not only creepy, but also pointless.

idk it didnt really bother me at all and tbh without MAL forum and twitter i wouldnt even know there is something so horrible and sensitive so many people are disgust and terrified and rate it 1/10 because of it. I havent seen so many people melting over fictional anime isekai characters situated in 14th century era lmao i just dont get people these days
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This anime is either for you, or not for you. I myself really enjoy it, especially the animation, but I can see how mc's pedophilic tendency can turn some people off. So if one really cannot handle it 1/10 is pretty "reasonable", but if they gave it 1/10 for a bad writing/bad world building then I don't know pretty weird if you ask me


nah.if its not for u,normal score for them should be 5 average or 4 bad,1 is for me specially "INSULTINGLY BAD" sh*tshow like sao or jaku chara for this season is that 1/10.mushoku is FAR BETTER even if its not for them,in fact the fact that ppl can feel disgustingly toward mc act showing how good the show is,to all of those ppl you dont watch "A PERVERT DEGENERATE SCUMBAG MC" that act like a proper matured 30 y.o,thats bad writing meanwhile mushoku showing exactly how a perverted scumbag who literally have no life and waste all his time jerking off,thats how that kind of person act,he should be disgusting.
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ag_ said:
L0sMichal0s said:

im okay with those reviews i respect opinions of others but those reviews are definitely not MOST HELPFUL and dont deserve to be on top page of this great anime

Hundreds of people gave them helpful, whether that may be botting or not, there's a reason they're so high. People agree with them.


That's the actual problem here.

People will write dumb shit because they know stupid people will agree with them.

Just look at the top review comparing this with Boku no Pico.

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They said the "not helpful" button was removed for making the review system more reliable and to avoid abuse. Yes, makes perfect sense...

It does make sense, otherwise every anime with a large enough fanboy base would effectively censor criticals reviews by downvoting.


L0sMichal0s said:
those reviews are definitely not MOST HELPFUL and dont deserve to be on top page

People upvoted them as helpful, whether you like it or not. Positive reviews are not the only ones allowed to exist.
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Groenboys said:
L0sMichal0s said:

I mean MC is supposed to be morally questionable and other characters too they are definitely not portrayed as heroes or good people. Its not supporting their behaviour so i dont see whats so wrong about this and why one or two scenes overshadow 11 amazing episodes
I mean, most people would not be okay with an adult molesting a little girl and the anime actively making that look comedic. Honestly, if this aspect didn't overshadow the whole anime for most people I would be really concerned.


Considering that over half the people rated it 9 or over, I don't think the horniness aspect overshadowed the anime for most people.
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lewdrich said:
This anime is either for you, or not for you. I myself really enjoy it, especially the animation, but I can see how mc's pedophilic tendency can turn some people off. So if one really cannot handle it 1/10 is pretty "reasonable", but if they gave it 1/10 for a bad writing/bad world building then I don't know pretty weird if you ask me


nah.if its not for u,normal score for them should be 5 average or 4 bad,1 is for me specially "INSULTINGLY BAD" sh*tshow like sao or jaku chara for this season is that 1/10.mushoku is FAR BETTER even if its not for them,in fact the fact that ppl can feel disgustingly toward mc act showing how good the show is,to all of those ppl you dont watch "A PERVERT DEGENERATE SCUMBAG MC" that act like a proper matured 30 y.o,thats bad writing meanwhile mushoku showing exactly how a perverted scumbag who literally have no life and waste all his time jerking off,thats how that kind of person act,he should be disgusting.

yeah those people probably ignored all the backstory and expected him to turn his personality and change in span of one episode and beat the final boss with power of friendship or idk
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I mean, most people would not be okay with an adult molesting a little girl and the anime actively making that look comedic. Honestly, if this aspect didn't overshadow the whole anime for most people I would be really concerned.


Considering that over half the people rated it 9 or over, I don't think the horniness aspect overshadowed the anime for most people.


Imagine relying on MAL scores to build any kind of argument.

Moreover, people who dropped early out of disgust or whatever reason are not even counted in the anime score.
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It is what it is. Some people will criticize this show for having a degenerate MC rather than praise it for its world-building. So yea, the criticism is perfectly valid, but the way some people convey them is pretentiously cringe.


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Your salty tears are delicious.

4/10 bad pedobait with some plot on it. The development of Rudeus died in episode 2, and Eris is the most cancerous tsundere I´ve seen in a while.

On a side note, I love people trying to defend this shit with some pretentious arguments when in the end the main character himself is just the biggest issue of the series. But hey, even without him, 90% of the dudes in the anime are also either pedophiles or just assaulters, so I guess there´s that.
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Top review is based, the shoujo ramune pfp makes it even better.


Quality shitpost. The thing that makes me sad is that the helpful votes are unironic.


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