Attack on Titan
CG or 2D?
CG Mappa
26.9%
128
2D WIT
73.1%
348
476 votes
| in this thread i will be posting comparisons about CGI vs 2D. mainly about how mappa deals with the shifters vs WIT aside from colossal.it will be updated periodically and hopefully good discussion comes out of it. PV(2D) vs the episode(CG).Click image to zoom in:   Link to PV on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlNpRThS9t8 Beast titan: CG  2D  2D vs CG  Gifs: CG  2D  Armrored titan: CG  CG  2D  2D  Gifs: 2D  CG  2D  2D  Im DissapointmentA by the way,tried to get back one of my old accounts and this is the one i was able to remember (Sad777 i couldn't), did this so people won't see the Dec join date and think im trying to bankrupt Mappa or something. Please Discuss respectfully. |
Sad7727Dec 7, 2020 2:28 PM
| Damn, those clouds. Still kudos to MAPPA/V-Sign for making Armored Titan look decent when it's not moving. It sincerely looks good until it moves, one of the best anime CGI. There is no point in comparing them with Wit though. They have no chance. |
| lol, obviously 2D. Is there anyone who prefers the CGI? |
RobinTheKing said: lol, obviously 2D. Is there anyone who prefers the CGI? Obviously there are people that disconnected from the reality here. They are the "MAPPA GOAT" gang. |
| The CG looks great. The 2D looks great too. People will find anything to complain about, it's actually amazing. |
deg said: 3D for on model consistency but low animation quality 2D for high animation quality (potentially that is) but low on model consistency for me its equal thats just my taste in visuals though but i voted 2D on the poll since you force me to choose Don't forget MAPPA makes the decision easier by making the 2D characters look as incosistent as Wit. So it should be who looks the best. |
| Do you think COVID had something to do with this? I've never seen an anime look so different from its trailer in over a decade of watching. |
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| Any idea why the pure titans are in 2D? |
| 2D is without a shadow of doubt better. There's really no comparison but I am just happy there is an Anime adaptation of the manga at all. Having said that, I wouldn't have minded if they waited and took their time (maybe 2 years or so) before releasing it. Manga would have finished by then as well! |
AyyMayyDec 7, 2020 11:47 AM
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| It's not as simple as that. Not all 2D is better than 3D. For example, I enjoyed the CGI titans in episode 1 more than the 2D ones in the Reiner vs Eren fight in S3P2 episode 2. |
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SirTristram said: Damn, those clouds. Still kudos to MAPPA/V-Sign for making Armored Titan look decent when it's not moving. It sincerely looks good until it moves, one of the best anime CGI. There is no point in comparing them with Wit though. They have no chance. That's CG best thing,it looks great when it doesn't move.. but when it does it looks awful and there's no Titan vs Titan fighting yet,imagine that when both titans are CG Katakuri876 said: There isn't really any comparison. Wit by a margin. But the cgi isn't all that bad. Look from the good side. It could have been worse. I mean we could've waited two years and had full 2D animation,it is possible too. matter of prespective i guess. BenRyan said: Do you think COVID had something to do with this? I've never seen an anime look so different from its trailer in over a decade of watching. The funny thing is people (most of us on MAL too at the time) were worried about the PV and didn't even think for a second it'd look WORSE. so this is like reverse-something lol. i do no think covid has anything to do with it,because the one who animated the PV started after covid and it was a different staff. they also didn't choose to reuse the animations they just replaced it with CG. so Mappa choosing CG is production reason and creative reason first and foremost. |
Sad7727 said: The funny thing is people (most of us on MAL too at the time) were worried about the PV and didn't even think for a second it'd look WORSE. so this is like reverse-something lol. i do no think covid has anything to do with it,because the one who animated the PV started after covid and it was a different staff. they also didn't choose to reuse the animations they just replaced it with CG. so Mappa choosing CG is production reason and creative reason first and foremost. This is so true lmao. Even I was surprised when I first saw the episode. I was expecting much better than this. I thought they were going to polish and improve upon the PV, not downgrade it to depths of hell. I know this is going to sound toxic af and I have nothing against the hardworking staff but hopefully MAPPA completely fails this as soon as possible and gets out of the picture for the real "finale". That would be the best outcome for both the staff's well-being and the anime. It shouldn't take long from the looks of it anyway. |
| MAPPA has a better CGI but I still find Wit's 2D almightier. |
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Katakuri876 said: Katakuri876 said: There isn't really any comparison. Wit by a margin. But the cgi isn't all that bad. Look from the good side. It could have been worse. I mean we could've waited two years and had full 2D animation,it is possible too. matter of prespective i guess. Yeah i agree. That way it could have also just been a 25 or 32 episode anime and get trough everything. I am kinda confused right now. Didn't wit drop aot because they didnt have enough resources for it? And then mappa pick it up because they do? Well if that's how it is then why the hell did they go with the cheaper option lol. Cant lie i am disappointed but i am a manga reader so i wasnt really all that hyped for the anime. They were overworked+ only got fixed amount of money (Animation costs+cost of job) while production commite got all the profit from blu-rays streaming merchandise etc etc WIT got jack squat however their love showed through,despite being a very SMALL studio they brought this quality. Mappa got fixed amount + part of committee,so any profit from blurays etc etc will go in part to them too unlike WIT yet this is Mappa's work,despite being one of the largest studios IIRC. its kinda obvious they took it for the money instead of love in my opinion. Edit: So Mappa gets a lot more money,WIT only got little |
Sad7727Dec 7, 2020 12:17 PM
| Honestly I prefer 2d WIT. One thing to note is that 2d isn't necessarily better, it's just how everyone is used to. CGI looks jarring because we aren't used to CGI. I can't look at MAPPA's CGI and call it bad. It's really good. But I'm just not used to it, compared to WIT's. Maybe a few years later, CGI will become the norm when it looks almost exactly like 2d animation. |
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| Mappa has better CG but the 2D WIT Beast and Armored Titan looked better But overall, the art style and animation now looks better than in the previous seasons |
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| It's only the first ep so I'm not expecting very high quality from MAPPA yet. Jaw Titan's CGI didn't bother me at all WIT'S cgi was the worst tho, that collossal from s3p2 still gives me nightmares |
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Reiner_undieable said: UnderminE said: first ep is usually one of the best ep in the show but things will get worse as we move, there might be an ep that will be better than ep1 but everything else will go downhill animation wise.It's only the first ep so I'm not expecting very high quality from MAPPA yet. Jaw Titan's CGI didn't bother me at all WIT'S cgi was the worst tho, that collossal from s3p2 still gives me nightmares Gosh stop hating MAPPA without even finishing the season itself. If it weren't for them there wouldn't even be a finale season and you should be thankful for that. WIT couldn't make it til the end and they are working on another project already, so stop pouring your dark energies all around the forums. S3's first episode was very simple and ordinary but the second episode proved everyone wrong with their beautiful Levi scenes. |
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| 2d looks better. must be the perfectly balanced intervals between keyframes that make 3d animation look weird next to 2d animation if that makes any sense. |
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| Now post some WIT CG, because there’s no way WIT couldve ever adapted season 4 of AOT without CG in every episode where there are titans. AyyMayy said: Having said that, I wouldn't have minded if they waited and took their time (maybe 2 years or so) before releasing it. Manga would have finished by then as well! Katakuri876 said: I mean we could've waited two years and had full 2D animation,it is possible too. matter of prespective i guess.. You guys are clueless about how the anime industry functions. It wouldve changed nothing, you think studios book their staff for 2 years to adapt 1 anime? The timeframe wouldve been the same and WIT couldnt do it either way. SirTristram said: I know this is going to sound toxic af and I have nothing against the hardworking staff but hopefully MAPPA completely fails this as soon as possible and gets out of the picture for the real "finale". That would be the best outcome for both the staff's well-being and the anime. It shouldn't take long from the looks of it anyway. Or you can stop watching and log out from MAL and not comeback, dont think anyone will care really since most users in this subforum have the same opinion about you. |
KneelBeforeMeDec 7, 2020 12:58 PM
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PrasantGrG said: Sad7727 said: I mean we could've waited two years and had full 2D animation,it is possible too. matter of prespective i guess. We can blame the production committee for that unfortunately True,if they gave WIT both time + getting them part of commitite it woul'dve been amazing Sourire said: Now post some WIT CG, because there’s no way WIT couldve ever adapted season 4 of AOT without CG in every episode where there are titans. AyyMayy said: Having said that, I wouldn't have minded if they waited and took their time (maybe 2 years or so) before releasing it. Manga would have finished by then as well! Katakuri876 said: I mean we could've waited two years and had full 2D animation,it is possible too. matter of prespective i guess.. You guys are clueless about how the anime industry functions. It wouldve changed nothing, you think studios book their staff for 2 years to adapt 1 anime? The timeframe wouldve been the same and WIT couldnt do it either way. SirTristram said: I know this is going to sound toxic af and I have nothing against the hardworking staff but hopefully MAPPA completely fails this as soon as possible and gets out of the picture for the real "finale". That would be the best outcome for both the staff's well-being and the anime. It shouldn't take long from the looks of it anyway. Or you can stop watching and log out from MAL and not comeback, dont think anyone will care really since most users in this subforum have the same opinion about you. i already said im not posting WIT CGI,since this is about 2d vs CG. and if it came to colossal being cgi vs every titan shifter being CGI i'd take wit colossal CGI And 2d shifters 10/10 of times. it is not impossible to make it without CGI,it is just matter of will and time. but the producers wanted it to be like this. and you are not in a position to kick people of the forum just because they criticize,you're welcome to ignore/block him. as i said,discuss respectfully |
AvihayAnimes said: The CG looks great. The 2D looks great too. People will find anything to complain about, it's actually amazing. Wow, criticizing animation in an anime? How would have thunk... OT: 2D is better almost 100% of the time. This really can't be argued. |
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I_Am_Freeballing said: It's not as simple as that. Not all 2D is better than 3D. For example, I enjoyed the CGI titans in episode 1 more than the 2D ones in the Reiner vs Eren fight in S3P2 episode 2. There's no way you're serious... |
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| It’s sad for WIT that they didn’t make any real money off the unthinkable quality of their work while MAPPA is out there third place on the committee making big bucks off less substantial work. I’m not going into detail about the quality of the work because I’ve already been called a doomer on a few occasions for doing that. The most toxic thing in this entire fanbase is the debate between Enthusiasts and Critics, wherein the critics (who love AoT just as much as the enthusiasts) mention their anxieties or disappointments about the Final Season (because they care about AoT) only to get called ''Doomers'', naturally triggering in them the urge to shout their disappointments out louder and louder. Doomers are born from Optimists. |
| I think the quality is still good to see. Whether it's 2D or CGI. I just want this anime to end. Thankful that there is a studio that wants to work on this anime. |
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MironBiron said: It’s sad for WIT that they didn’t make any real money off the unthinkable quality of their work while MAPPA is out there third place on the committee making big bucks off less substantial work. I’m not going into detail about the quality of the work because I’ve already been called a doomer on a few occasions for doing that. The most toxic thing in this entire fanbase is the debate between Enthusiasts and Critics, wherein the critics (who love AoT just as much as the enthusiasts) mention their anxieties or disappointments about the Final Season (because they care about AoT) only to get called ''Doomers'', naturally triggering in them the urge to shout their disappointments out louder and louder. Doomers are born from Optimists. Yes its really sad,WIT deserved to be on the committee for their quality work despite being a small and new studio. yet Mappa is big and gets to make a lot more money doing cheaper and knockoff quality work. About the Positivity: Positive Positive!, literally shingek subreddit everything is downvoted to hell if they critcize(go there and sort by controversial 24 hour). same in comments same in /r/anime and same in twitter everywhere you go there is a positive echo chamber and " don't criticize just accept". there is literally thousands of places and threads in this forum you can go to. yet some guys go into the threads which people criticize and say "stop being negative!!" i don't really understand some people. |
MironBiron said: It’s sad for WIT that they didn’t make any real money off the unthinkable quality of their work while MAPPA is out there third place on the committee making big bucks off less substantial work. I’m not going into detail about the quality of the work because I’ve already been called a doomer on a few occasions for doing that. The most toxic thing in this entire fanbase is the debate between Enthusiasts and Critics, wherein the critics (who love AoT just as much as the enthusiasts) mention their anxieties or disappointments about the Final Season (because they care about AoT) only to get called ''Doomers'', naturally triggering in them the urge to shout their disappointments out louder and louder. Doomers are born from Optimists. You finally realized what it felt being me all this long lmao. I was getting constantly shit on the leaks thread, even by you at the beggining. After all the character development you gone through you become like me. Poetic and very Reiner-like. |
SirTristram said: You finally realized what it felt being me all this long lmao. I was getting constantly shit on the leaks thread, even by you at the beggining. After all the character development you gone through you become like me. Poetic and very Reiner-like. I was actually called a Doomer the first few weeks after the PV dropped. I didn’t like the PV and I was so fucking afraid that it would suck. I also hated being called negative. But then I picked up the manga out of fear of a bad adaptation and that was truly amazing, this took the pressure off the anime a bit. From then on I started researching the quality of the staff and quickly turned into an enthusiast seeing how qualified most of them were. Some of the work was so good that I started dreaming of a slick and stylish adaptation (Dorohedoro, Garo: The Animation and the first season of Kakegurui are all beautiful, sharply directed shows). But then it turned out to be totally and completely inferior to any of Hayashi’s other works at MAPPA, along with MAPPA works like Banana Fish, Garo: Vanishing Line, Dororo and Yuri on Ice. And now I’m back to being what secretly anxious-enthusiasts would call a ''Doomer''. My character development is really tragic. |
TsukuyomiREKT said: AvihayAnimes said: The CG looks great. The 2D looks great too. People will find anything to complain about, it's actually amazing. Wow, criticizing animation in an anime? How would have thunk... OT: 2D is better almost 100% of the time. This really can't be argued. The CG in this episode looks great. |
Katakuri876 said: I voted for WIT 2D but okay. I’m just not a delusional hater like the loud toxic minority on MAL. Keep making accounts insulting others sounds like a productive hobby.Sourire said: Now post some WIT CG, because there’s no way WIT couldve ever adapted season 4 of AOT without CG in every episode where there are titans. You guys are clueless about how the anime industry functions. It wouldve changed nothing, you think studios book their staff for 2 years to adapt 1 anime? The timeframe wouldve been the same and WIT couldnt do it either way. Or you can stop watching and log out from MAL and not comeback, dont think anyone will care really since most users in this subforum have the same opinion about you. Thats his quote not mine. Anyways i have no idea whether you are just a retarded fanboy thats under the hilarious delusions mappa did a better job than wit or if you are simply a toxic cancerous neckbeard, but you have no right to kick anybody from here. And as far as i can see 75% agree wit did it better. So go cry in a corner or something |
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AvihayAnimes said: TsukuyomiREKT said: Wow, criticizing animation in an anime? How would have thunk... OT: 2D is better almost 100% of the time. This really can't be argued. The CG in this episode looks great. I don't agree with that and I'm not looking forward to more CGI Titans, but you do you man. |
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| 2d is obviously better. Doesn't mean the CGI isn't good or at the very least tolerable. Trying to play power creep with the animation is dumb. What matters is if the show is above presentable, and in this case it certainly is. |
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SirTristram said: Damn, those clouds. Still kudos to MAPPA/V-Sign for making Armored Titan look decent when it's not moving. It sincerely looks good until it moves, one of the best anime CGI. There is no point in comparing them with Wit though. They have no chance. Far as I know you are anime only so tell me is the quality so low for you that it takes away your viewing pleasure? AOT has much more to offer than just good animation, this is not Nanatsu no taizai. Or maybe you are still like it, but just think that it could be much better |
| @Katakuri876 You should block him like I did long ago. He has the "heat" but lacks the brain. At least I say sensible things even though I'm one of the most insufferable people here as well. Self-awareness is a necessity. @ReegrezSNK Yes, unfortunately. I see no difference between this and OPM S2 to be honest. This isn't as bad, but the downgrade is similar and the change is as drastic imho. The issue is, it doesn't feel right for me to watch it when I know it could be much better. This is why it's so hard for me to accept and watch this. I'm all for the manga now. |
SirTristramDec 7, 2020 2:05 PM
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