| Overrated is right behind "pretentious" in my list of worst criticisms. When people say that something is overrated, what they're really saying is that they're upset by people finding some sort of enjoyment in a medium designed mainly to - you guessed it, provide enjoyment. It's a really shallow criticism and kind of nasty in its intent. TL;DR When someone says something is overrated that means they didn't like it but a lot of people do. The moment you use the term "Overrated", you lose the argument. I don't think it can even be considered as a criticism. Criticism implies a thoughtful comment on the artifact, not whether you liked it or not (criticism should be how you liked it or not). Just because YOU didn't like Demon Slayer but a thousand other did doesn't make it overrated. I don't understand how the mind of a person who unironically uses the term "Overrated" works.. The term basically boil down to "Stop liking what I don't like!" only said with bigger words and shit. Stop using the term overrated, it makes you look like a tryhard wannabe critic who ran out of valid criticisms. Edit: Ah you know what? I'm tired of the people making up their own definition of the term "Overrated" the same thing happened in one of my last thread where I pointed out that logically, Chinese DongHuas aren't Anime, everyone kept making up their own definition of "Anime" and in the end, the thread went to shit. The same is happening here. 1. "Overrated" is an invalid criticism, not an opinion unless you say it is. 2. "Overrated" isn't 100% subjective like people make it out to be. 3. "Overrated" is almost all the time used in a negative connotation, if you say otherwise then you don't know anything about it. 4. "Overrated" basically means "I think x shouldn't be rated highly even though a lot of other people like it, in a website where ratings are given by real people, I am publicly stating that I think that the anime that YOU liked is shit and should be rated low. Why? Because I didn't enjoy it, hence, it's overrated" Like it or not, that is how the general consensus uses the term "Overrated" as, I don't care about how you use the word overrated. Just like how "Bully" used to be a term of endearment for men or women. It then came to stand for a coward who picks on others. 5. "Overrated" is a stupid word that cannot be justified through any means, it is illogical and irrational. Find a better criticism. 6. There is a fine difference between criticism and an opinion, if you don't understand that, then I have nothing to say to you, that's just the brainpower of an average consumer to you. |
Arin-sanOct 30, 2020 8:23 AM
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| Wait what ? So in you're view Maria-Sama is not a underrated show ? Are everything okej with you bud ? It sounds really bad to call a underrated show not underrated when it is DAMN underrated. It make no sense bud. When a a well written show with a amazin cast has less completed then what Demon Slayer has dropped. I would call it damn underrated, mate I don't know how you're thinking. But it exist shows out there that's better then the whole top 100 on Mal but no one have watched them. As no one is talking about them as it's no advertising for them, as it's older shows, forgotten in the dust. When it comes to Shoujo it exist a lot of shows no one even have the balls to try. Because shoujo is bad. Thanks to this awesome shows is left in the dust and normaly they are better written then the whole top 100 is right now. Maria-Sama is one of them, and hey it's made by Studio Deen one more reason why people ignor it. People are ignoring shows on ridiculous reason and thanks to this shows gets underrated. I don't really care about the overrated as it's used in every damn argument if a show is good or not. But when it comes to underrated it's a whole new story. |
NillwasOct 29, 2020 1:39 PM
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| The bias is strong with this one. Over and under-rated are perfectly fine terms with simple definitions. Some fiction gets more attention/praise than it deserves and some get less. It doesn't matter whether you're a critic or not. The only difference between Roger Ebert and me is that when he was alive he got paid to open his pie hole and talk shit about entertainment. A critics opinion is no less or more valid than anyone else's. This entire OP comes across as a big old chunk of "I'm butt-hurt because someone told me my favourite anime was over-rated." Get over it, mate. EDIT:- Also, trying to tell people not to have opinions on the internet? Good luck with that, man. |
CallMeHootOct 29, 2020 1:37 PM
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CaptainBubblegum said: Well the way I see it, the criticism of "Overrated" implies for something you think is more praised and loved then it should be. It is just like any other review\critic, subjective. There's one thing I really don't like with "Overrated" comments and is that people will completely rule out certain content just because it is popular as if they want to feel unique or different than common people. But criticizing content will always be subjective to that particular person. Actual criticism isn't like that, actual critics never use the term "overrated" or "underrated" because criticising is their profession and they realize how stupid of a criticism it is. "the criticism of "Overrated" implies for something you think is more praised and loved then it should be." My problem is exactly here, why do you think that it is more praised and loved than it should be? Just like I said, it basically boils down to "Stop liking things I dislike!". People who keep saying "x is overrated" say it like it's some sort of universal truth or something. At the end of the day, they aren't critics and their opinion are just as ordinary as any other person's. That's why you shouldn't think like "Why do people like that anime but I don't? Ah, it must be overrated. I'm a genius" |
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| What I understood: Kimi no na wa is overrated, but please, don't say that kind of stuff to me |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
CallMeHoot said: The bias is strong with this one. Over and under-rated are perfectly fine terms with simple definitions. Some fiction gets more attention/praise than it deserves and some get less. This entire OP comes across as a big old chunk of "I'm butt-hurt because someone told me my favourite anime was over-rated." Get over it, mate. EDIT:- Also, trying to tell people not to have opinions on the internet? Good luck with that, man. Yeah and your reason for that? Nothing I guess. You have no credibility to call something overrated. Why should I be butthurt about someone's failed criticism? "Some fiction gets more attention/praise than it deserves and some get less" And who decides which fiction DESERVES more praise and which one one doesn't? Jesus? Trump? Obama? Who? You? You who? |
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| If the claim of calling something overrated can be back up with a logical argument, I see nothing wrong with it. The term pretentious does get on my nerves though, as a majority of the time people just say it's "pretentious" thinking that a big word like that will make their argument seem valid even though 99 percent of the time they have no idea wtf they are talking about. |
Nillwas said: Wait what ? So in you're view Maria-Sama is not a underrated show ? Sorry how does you're brain work ? Are everything okej with you bud ? It sounds really bad to call a underrated show not underrated when it is DAMN underrated. It make no sense bud. When a a well written show with a amazin cast has less completed then what Demon Slayer has dropped. I would call it damn underrated, mate I don't know how you're thinking. But it exist shows out there that's better then the whole top 100 on Mal but no one have watched them. As no one is talking about them as it's no advertising for them, as it's older shows, forgotten in the dust. When it comes to Shoujo it exist a lot of shows no one even have the balls to try. Because shoujo is bad. Thanks to this awesome shows is left in the dust and normaly they are better written then the whole top 100 is right now. Maria-Sama is one of them, and hey it's made by Studio Deen one more reason why people ignor it. "Maria-sama... I never heard about that anime. Huh, I guess it must be underrated! Wow!" - Average anime fan |
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Arin-san said: "Some fiction gets more attention/praise than it deserves and some get less" And who decides which fiction DESERVES more praise and which one one doesn't? Jesus? Trump? Obama? Who? You? You who? You realise you're sabotaging yourself with this here, right? There is no "God" or "authority" on what is good and what is bad in entertainment. There is only individual opinion and general consensus. A critic's opinion is worth about as much as wet 2 ply toilet paper is when it comes to stopping a bullet. Ask Stephen King, he'll tell you the same. And when it comes to whether something is good, bad, over-rated or under-rated...well...that depends on the individual making the assessment. Like everything else, the very nature of having an opinion is subjective. |
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wape said: I'll never understand why negative opinions are so frowned upon where with the simplest of words one can describe why that said thing is overrated and whatnot but what elitists really want is "constructive" criticism as apparently having to write certain sentences explaining their reason at best is not within their reach to being "right". In the end you're just mad Your Name gets alot of hate. Not only Your Name fine sir, Demon Slayer, Naruto, One Punch Man, Attack on Titan, and many many many many more anime. Any anime that has more than average popularity and tons of people liking it is apparently overrated. |
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CallMeHoot said: Arin-san said: "Some fiction gets more attention/praise than it deserves and some get less" And who decides which fiction DESERVES more praise and which one one doesn't? Jesus? Trump? Obama? Who? You? You who? You realise you're sabotaging yourself with this here, right? There is no "God" or "authority" on what is good and what is bad. There is only individual opinion and general consensus. And when it comes to whether something is good, bad, over-rated or under-rated...well...that depends on the individual making the assessment. Sigh.. and you are unable to understand that when people say "Overrated" they think that their opinion is better than the mass majority's which is a wrong way to think when you have NO CREDIBILITY. Good and bad = Subjective. Overrated and underrated = not subjective. An individual doesn't decide what another individual should and shouldn't like. Try to understand. |
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| Interesting how quickly this thread devolved into posters saying what works they think are overrated or underrated. The terms may be useful insofar as both the person using them and anyone reading/listening realize that they are a reflection of one person's opinion and how it deviates from the norm. There's no such thing as something being overrated or underrated in any sort of objective sense that isn't relative to the opinion of the person using the term. |
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Arin-san said: Sigh.. and you are unable to understand that when people say "Overrated" they think that their opinion is better than the mass majority's which is a wrong way to think when you have NO CREDIBILITY. Good and bad = Subjective. Overrated and underrated = not subjective. An individual doesn't decide what another individual should and shouldn't like. Try to understand. You seem to think a person has to have this mystical quality of "credibility" to be able to make a valid judgement call. How old are you, son? I'm guessing late teens, early twenties. Making a statement like "you cannot disagree with the mob unless you have mystical quality X" is very silly. I never said an individual should decide what someone does or doesn't like, but to say the terms are not subjective is obtuse at best. A person can have an opinion, (one that is valid, even if it's only valid to them) that a piece of fiction is more highly regarded than they think it deserves. It's as valid as opinion as anything else, even if it's not really "criticism" per say. For example, the general consensus is that Death Note is great. It's not. It's trite, juvenile, poorly written shite and as such, is exceptionally over-rated. This is just my opinion (and I''m sure I'm not totally alone in it), it doesn't invalidate the opinion of anyone who enjoys the show and to be honest, if someone is going to get upset over an opinion they need to do a bit of growing up. People disagree. That's life. A disagreement or a difference of opinion doesn't make a person a saint or a shit by default. EDIT:- But seriously, it sounds like someone just roasted your most loved anime and you just got upset and came to rant about it/"prove" that this person has no "credibility" and therefore his opinion is invalid. It doesn't work that way, mate. |
CallMeHootOct 29, 2020 1:58 PM
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| I stopped reading the OP when he said overrated was a bad criticism. Implying that overrated was a criticism to begin with. It is clear at this point that OP does not understand what overrated means. |
| OP, you don't seem to understand that overrated is a subjective term. Just like I can say a show is good/bad/underrated/whatever, I can say that certain show is overrated, because after all, that's just my opinion and not an objective claim or whatever. Or am I not allowed to have a different opinion? And what does it matter that it is not a """"criticism""""? Why do I need to justify my opinion to others on Internet? Nefelupitou said: What I understood: Kimi no na wa is overrated, but please, don't say that kind of stuff to me S-SHUT IT DOWN |
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| People are just mad when normal shows for normal people like Death Note, etc are more priased and popular than thier shitty cringe shows which only they can understand because they are so smart and unique, so they call it overrated, anyway who cares. Calling show like Death note poor written while you have Kill la KIll in favorites, world keep suprising me everyday. |
| I disagree, some people say stuff like "Woah, Boruto is better than Naruto" or "Woah, Bleach is so much better than Rurouni Kenshin, much better sword battle anime" and it clearly isn't true. Calling Boruto better than Naruto or Seven Deadly Sins better than One Piece just isn't true, and would be overrating one series and underrating the other. No hate, that's just my stance on this whole thing. |
WNchad said: No, overrated anime exist. Re:ZERO is a terribly overrated show with weak characterization, pathetic themes, and piss poor execution. Yet, everyone eats it up. While WN counterpart is obviously the superior masterpiece and trumps the anime in every way possible. Yet, the WN is underrated! It's ridiculous. I am one of those who ate it up (which is weird because I never thought I'd get into the whole "isekai" thing after trying to watch the dual travesties of SAO and Overlord). As it stands regarding Re:Zero and KonoSuba though, I regret nothing. ♥ Rem is best girl ♥ |
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| What's wrong with criticizing a popular show and then calling it overrated? This is a site where people share opinions right? Constructive criticism is helpful, if anything. |
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ReegrezSNK said: People are just mad when normal shows for normal people like Death Note, etc are more priased and popular than thier shitty cringe shows which only they can understand because they are so smart and unique, so they call it overrated, anyway who cares. Calling show like Death note poor written while you have Kill la KIll in favorites, world keep suprising me everyday. Now that I think about it, there's a reason why simple or easy to get into shows like Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece are more popular than complex series like Monster, it's because most of Shonen jumped could be viewed and understood at a younger age, therefore it reaches a wider audience then say, Berserk. So it's not that it's "overrated" it's just that it's easier to come home, sit down and watch and unwind, and has more of an age range than other series. |
ReegrezSNK said: Calling show like Death note poor written while you have Kill la KIll in favorites, world keep suprising me everyday. Haha, went fishing, got one. Get over it, mate. Death Note is trash written for edge-lord wannabes. End of story. |
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WNchad said: CallMeHoot said: I am one of those who ate it up (which is weird because I never thought I'd get into the whole "isekai" thing after trying to watch the dual travesties of SAO and Overlord). As it stands regarding Re:Zero and KonoSuba though, I regret nothing. ♥ Rem is best girl ♥ Join the WNcult, friend. You'll soon realize the adaptation is horrid. Read my profile to know more. Oof, a bit in-depth that there profile, mate. Is there a print-novel in English I can read? I generally like to read the old fashioned way, reading on devices gives me a headache. |
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| From what I've seen in the anime community, I've seen the term "overrated" more used when there's a super popular anime that most everyone loves and praises, but when you look at it objectively, it's not as great as everyone thinks. (I've seen this a lot among people who've watched shows like SAO, Yuri on Ice, etc. I don't think I plan on watching YoI, but I did see a lot of reactions to the year it won, like 3/4 of the awards during that one Crunchyroll Anime Awards back in 2016.) I don't deny that people use "overrated" when they simply didn't like it, and I do think that people should tighten the reins a bit on their usage of it. Similar to what you said, I think it should be used objectively, and as a part of criticism, not just initial after-thought reactions. But that's just my opinion. |
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| wow nice bait Arin-san said: CallMeHoot said: The bias is strong with this one. Over and under-rated are perfectly fine terms with simple definitions. Some fiction gets more attention/praise than it deserves and some get less. This entire OP comes across as a big old chunk of "I'm butt-hurt because someone told me my favourite anime was over-rated." Get over it, mate. EDIT:- Also, trying to tell people not to have opinions on the internet? Good luck with that, man. Yeah and your reason for that? Nothing I guess. You have no credibility to call something overrated. Why should I be butthurt about someone's failed criticism? "Some fiction gets more attention/praise than it deserves and some get less" And who decides which fiction DESERVES more praise and which one one doesn't? Jesus? Trump? Obama? Who? You? You who? Idk mate this comment sounded extremely butthurt lol None of us are claiming to be pro critics anyway. Thinking that overrated a stupid term is an opinion, just like how the term overrated is also an opinion. People have different opinions. As the other person said, get over it. |
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| Your whole reasoning is rather ironic, as not only you're just another random person on the internet with no credibility to dismiss a word that's not even an actual criticism (even if there are people who use it as such, but it's not those people you should be listening to in the first place), but you seem only mad that people are calling shows you like overrated—not all that different from people that throw that word around with nothing to back them up because stuff they dislike is popular. It's almost as if you're saying "the word overrated is overrated". Yeah, I get it, it can be annoying when people throw those descriptive terms around and don't bother to elaborate them, but just because that happens it doesn't mean these words lose their meaning or are stupid just because you want them to, just like a show isn't pretentious or overrated just because some random people on the internet say they are. You're taking it all way too seriously. Arin-san said: Sigh.. and you are unable to understand that when people say "Overrated" they think that their opinion is better than the mass majority's which is a wrong way to think when you have NO CREDIBILITY. Good and bad = Subjective. Overrated and underrated = not subjective. An individual doesn't decide what another individual should and shouldn't like. Try to understand. And not really. The point you're missing here is that over- and underrated are merely descriptive terms of popularity or quality vs praise, they are not synonyms for good and bad, nor are they criticisms. Monogatari is one of my favourite anime franchises and more than one season could figure among my favourites, but I also think it's vastly overrated for a variety of reasons. Just because I think something is overrated doesn't mean I hate it or that I think people are wrong for liking it. It might just be a case of misguided praise. |
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CallMeHoot said: You seem to think a person has to have this mystical quality of "credibility" to be able to make a valid judgement call. How old are you, son? I'm guessing late teens, early twenties. Making a statement like "you cannot disagree with the mob unless you have mystical quality X" is very silly. I never said an individual should decide what someone does or doesn't like, but to say the terms are not subjective is obtuse at best. A person can have an opinion, (one that is valid, even if it's only valid to them) that a piece of fiction is more highly regarded than they think it deserves. It's as valid as opinion as anything else, even if it's not really "criticism" per say. For example, the general consensus is that Death Note is great. It's not. It's trite, juvenile, poorly written shite and as such, is exceptionally over-rated. This is just my opinion (and I''m sure I'm not totally alone in it), it doesn't invalidate the opinion of anyone who enjoys the show and to be honest, if someone is going to get upset over an opinion they need to do a bit of growing up. People disagree. That's life. A disagreement or a difference of opinion doesn't make a person a saint or a shit by default. EDIT:- But seriously, it sounds like someone just roasted your most loved anime and you just got upset and came to rant about it/"prove" that this person has no "credibility" and therefore his opinion is invalid. It doesn't work that way, mate. Oh no, look at you bringing up my age which is such an necessary thing to mention, how cool. To answer your question, this mystical quality is called being a professional critic. You CANNOT pretend that your view on x is better than someone else's view on x unless you are some sort of professional in that area. And it is definitely not silly. Who should I believe? A professional critic who is certified and is telling me x is good, or some nobody on the internet saying "x is overrated, pure trash, garbage blah blah blah". I'll let you guess that. Overrated is a really intellectually lazy way of disagreeing with the majority opinion. It offers no substantial criticism whatsoever. Saying "My opinion is right and yours isn't" isn't really an opinion. That's what people who use the term overrated often mean. Don't play the "I have an opinion!!1!" card every single where. You know very well what overrated means. Please don't pretend. Nobody says "IMO" after they say overrated because they are pretty much convinced that they are right and the majority isn't. And it's not only about my most loved anime. Literally everything.. "Oh you like Death Note? Bruhh that's overrated. You like Attack on Titan? Hella overrated. You like Kimi no Na wa? Bruh that shit was overrated af. You like Naruto? Overrated piece of crap. You like Erased? Dude... that's overrated. You like Demon Slayer? .... Overrated. You like Toradora? No man that was overrated fr." it goes on and on and on and on. Anything that you like and is a little popular = Overrated. I couldn't escape this word even when it comes to movies. "You like The Godfather? Bruh that's overrated. You like The Dark Knight? C'mon man that's overrated" Mod Edit: Removed bait |
dipItFooOct 30, 2020 6:47 PM
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Dazel1412 said: From what I've seen in the anime community, I've seen the term "overrated" more used when there's a super popular anime that most everyone loves and praises, but when you look at it objectively, it's not as great as everyone thinks. (I've seen this a lot among people who've watched shows like SAO, Yuri on Ice, etc. I don't think I plan on watching YoI, but I did see a lot of reactions to the year it won, like 3/4 of the awards during that one Crunchyroll Anime Awards back in 2016.) I don't deny that people use "overrated" when they simply didn't like it, and I do think that people should tighten the reins a bit on their usage of it. Similar to what you said, I think it should be used objectively, and as a part of criticism, not just initial after-thought reactions. But that's just my opinion. Well then you haven't seen anything. Are you trying to tell me that Demon Slayer was objectively bad? How so? Except for the generic plot, what is the reason that people think it's so bad that they go as far as to call it "Overrated garbage" when it definitely isn't? Or are you trying to tell me that Attack on Titan is "objectively" bad? The "objectively bad" part doesn't always matter when a person uses the term overrated. They simply use it because an anime is more popular than they "think" it should be. That's all there is to it. |
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| This thread is a mess and I hate it. Why the hell would you post this question, there is a term called overrated and usually, that comes with overhyped shows that turn out to be shit. For example, everyone was hyped about Tower of God but that was so boring and shit. People still kept going on about how they love it. Now to me that makes it overrated. OVERRATED IS A SUBJECTIVE TERM, YOU CAN USE IT TO EXPRESS YOUR OWN OPINION ABOUT A TOPIC. IT IS A TERM THAT'S USEFUL. I hereby deny your request to destroy a word. Please try again later. |
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CaptainBubblegum said: Arin-san said: Actual criticism isn't like that, actual critics never use the term "overrated" or "underrated" because criticising is their profession and they realize how stupid of a criticism it is. "the criticism of "Overrated" implies for something you think is more praised and loved then it should be." My problem is exactly here, why do you think that it is more praised and loved than it should be? Just like I said, it basically boils down to "Stop liking things I dislike!". People who keep saying "x is overrated" say it like it's some sort of universal truth or something. At the end of the day, they aren't critics and their opinion are just as ordinary as any other person's. That's why you shouldn't think like "Why do people like that anime but I don't? Ah, it must be overrated. I'm a genius" Overrated can be legitimate IMO. Overrated doesn't mean that you think it's bad, you just think that most people over-estimate how good the piece is. it is perfectly fine criticism. If you hate slice of life(like myself) and then you criticize a SOL anime, it is pretty pointless as I generally don't like that specific genre but technically I could still criticize any genre based on my opinion, it's just that it would be pretty pointless as my taste is probably quite different from people that usually watch the genre. I don't see an issue. If you see something and you don't like it, it's perfectly fine. If you rule something out because it is popular then it makes no sense as you really didn't watch the piece of content and based your opinion solely on things like ratings or popularity It's not about how you use it, its about how the majority uses it. And as far as that goes, I've already seen how the majority uses it. And the majority that uses the term overrated DOES mean that they think its bad. And yes, elitists do love to rule out popular anime by using the term overrated. Still think "Overrated" is perfectly fine? |
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Arin-san said: CallMeHoot said: You seem to think a person has to have this mystical quality of "credibility" to be able to make a valid judgement call. How old are you, son? I'm guessing late teens, early twenties. Making a statement like "you cannot disagree with the mob unless you have mystical quality X" is very silly. I never said an individual should decide what someone does or doesn't like, but to say the terms are not subjective is obtuse at best. A person can have an opinion, (one that is valid, even if it's only valid to them) that a piece of fiction is more highly regarded than they think it deserves. It's as valid as opinion as anything else, even if it's not really "criticism" per say. For example, the general consensus is that Death Note is great. It's not. It's trite, juvenile, poorly written shite and as such, is exceptionally over-rated. This is just my opinion (and I''m sure I'm not totally alone in it), it doesn't invalidate the opinion of anyone who enjoys the show and to be honest, if someone is going to get upset over an opinion they need to do a bit of growing up. People disagree. That's life. A disagreement or a difference of opinion doesn't make a person a saint or a shit by default. EDIT:- But seriously, it sounds like someone just roasted your most loved anime and you just got upset and came to rant about it/"prove" that this person has no "credibility" and therefore his opinion is invalid. It doesn't work that way, mate. Oh no, look at you bringing up my age which is such an necessary thing to mention, how cool. To answer your question, this mystical quality is called being a professional critic. You CANNOT pretend that your view on x is better than someone else's view on x unless you are some sort of professional in that area. And it is definitely not silly. Who should I believe? A professional critic who is certified and is telling me x is good, or some nobody on the internet saying "x is overrated, pure trash, garbage blah blah blah". I'll let you guess that. Overrated is a really intellectually lazy way of disagreeing with the majority opinion. It offers no substantial criticism whatsoever. Saying "My opinion is right and yours isn't" isn't really an opinion. That's what people who use the term overrated often mean. Don't play the "I have an opinion!!1!" card every single where. You know very well what overrated means. Please don't pretend. Nobody says "IMO" after they say overrated because they are pretty much convinced that they are right and the majority isn't. And it's not only about my most loved anime. Literally everything.. "Oh you like Death Note? Bruhh that's overrated. You like Attack on Titan? Hella overrated. You like Kimi no Na wa? Bruh that shit was overrated af. You like Naruto? Overrated piece of crap. You like Erased? Dude... that's overrated. You like Demon Slayer? .... Overrated. You like Toradora? No man that was overrated fr." it goes on and on and on and on. Anything that you like and is a little popular = Overrated. I couldn't escape this word even when it comes to movies. "You like The Godfather? Bruh that's overrated. You like The Dark Knight? C'mon man that's overrated" Just... fuck.. off OK dude, let's unpack this a little bit because clearly someone has upset you and maybe I can help get you past this. I only mentioned your age as an observation, not as a jibe or insult. Firstly, being an "entertainment critic" isn't like being a scientist (which I am, btw). A critic in this sense is just another asshole with an opinion, like everyone else, the only difference is that he generally follows a format, has some literary ability and is being paid whereas the average internet rando has questionable literacy, generally no form and is being paid bupkis. Being "certified" as an entertainment critic means nothing. Literally nothing. I promise you that. I'm sure you've watched or read something that you enjoyed that got SHAT on by most critics, I know I have. One of my favourite movies is Big Trouble In Little China, that got roased critically, but their opinions didn't affect my enjoyment of it at all. Secondly, not everyone who uses the term "over-rated" automatically assumes they are right. They are just making a judgement call based on their own views. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. The guy at post #43 on this thread gave you a great reply that goes into a bit more detail there. When you say "nobody says IMO after over-rated"...I literally just did when I mentioned Death Note. Look dude, there is ALWAYS gonna be some pleb that thinks something you like is "over-rated" or whatever (if this person who has clearly upset you actually said The Godfather is over-rated then his brain is very small anyway) but the crux of it is that the only opinion that should be important to you, is your own. Take notice of what others say, sure, but evaluate it on your own terms. Then make your own mind up. |
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DV_Wolf said: This thread is a mess and I hate it. Why the hell would you post this question, there is a term called overrated and usually, that comes with overhyped shows that turn out to be shit. For example, everyone was hyped about Tower of God but that was so boring and shit. People still kept going on about how they love it. Now to me that makes it overrated. OVERRATED IS A SUBJECTIVE TERM, YOU CAN USE IT TO EXPRESS YOUR OWN OPINION ABOUT A TOPIC. IT IS A TERM THAT'S USEFUL. I hereby deny your request to destroy a word. Please try again later. :) No. Tower of God is in no way overrated. You are confusing yourself. Try to read and understand better. "Overhyped" and "Overrated" are two different things, wayyyyy too different. Tower of God is overhyped, not overrated. Take Demon Slayer as an example, it was hyped up pretty well and it also exceeded people's expectation (At least the majority). But a group of people didn't like how everyone was liking it, so they decided to label Demon Slayer as "Overrated". "Overrated" isn't a useful term, it never was. I remember the movie community using this term constantly, but thankfully, the usage of the term died in the movie community. Why? Because even they know how useless and invalid the term is. |
I said keep your hands on the table |
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Arin-san said: DV_Wolf said: This thread is a mess and I hate it. Why the hell would you post this question, there is a term called overrated and usually, that comes with overhyped shows that turn out to be shit. For example, everyone was hyped about Tower of God but that was so boring and shit. People still kept going on about how they love it. Now to me that makes it overrated. OVERRATED IS A SUBJECTIVE TERM, YOU CAN USE IT TO EXPRESS YOUR OWN OPINION ABOUT A TOPIC. IT IS A TERM THAT'S USEFUL. I hereby deny your request to destroy a word. Please try again later. :) No. Tower of God is in no way overrated. You are confusing yourself. Try to read and understand better. "Overhyped" and "Overrated" are two different things, wayyyyy too different. Tower of God is overhyped, not overrated. Take Demon Slayer as an example, it was hyped up pretty well and it also exceeded people's expectation (At least the majority). But a group of people didn't like how everyone was liking it, so they decided to label Demon Slayer as "Overrated". "Overrated" isn't a useful term, it never was. I remember the movie community using this term constantly, but thankfully, the usage of the term died in the movie community. Why? Because even they know how useless and invalid the term is. You don't agree that Tower of God is overrated right? I said overrated was a subjective term so I don't mind. I also said overhyped shows sometimes don't deliver and that's when they become overrated. I never said overhyped and overrated were the same thing, I was pointing out some correlation between the two and how one can lead to another. Overrated is a useful term to express a SUBJECTIVE view. Is it good to use objectively? Obviously not, because people rate things differently and depending on that a show may become underrated or overrated. I think you misunderstood my post hopes this clears it up. |
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Arin-san said: Overrated is right behind "pretentious" in my list of worst criticisms. When people say that something is overrated, what they're really saying is that they're upset by people finding some sort of enjoyment in a medium designed mainly to - you guessed it, provide enjoyment. It's a really shallow criticism and kind of nasty in its intent. TL;DR When someone says something is overrated that means they didn't like it but a lot of people do. The moment you use the term "Overrated", you lose the argument. I don't think it can even be considered as a criticism. Criticism implies a thoughtful comment on the artifact, not whether you liked it or not (criticism should be how you liked it or not). Just because YOU didn't like Demon Slayer but a thousand other did doesn't make it overrated. When will people learn that they are not critics. You are not a critic. Your opinion is as good as some random person's opinion, and it will stay that way unless you have some sort of credibility like actual certified critics. I don't understand how the mind of a person who unironically uses the term "Overrated" works.. Underrated is equally worse. Both terms basically boil down to "Stop liking what I don't like!" only said with bigger words and shit. Stop using the term overrated, it makes you look like a tryhard wannabe critic who ran out of valid criticisms. "The moment you use the term "Overrated", you lose the argument."' you can resort to ignorance whenever you want but that doesnt change how an argument actually plays out " what they're really saying is that they're upset by people finding some sort of enjoyment in a medium designed mainly to - you guessed it, provide enjoyment." alternatively they could be saying that something is rated to highly idk just making up why people say things doesnt seem convincing to me "Criticism implies a thoughtful comment on the artifact, not whether you liked it or not (criticism should be how you liked it or not)." in this case you confuse critisim and statements >x thing is overrated .< is a statement . not a critique itself . i totally agree that a statement is not a critique but that is kind of arguing besides the point right ? for example "I don't think it can even be considered as a criticism" is not a critique either.its a statement ., the logical critique is what you followed up with similarly people usually have critiques that let them to that conclusion ""Stop liking what I don't like!""->> i think you are making up to many things people say. somebody saying something is [XY whatever] doesnt mean that they are saying [insert fantasy argument here] . it makes you look like a tryhard wannabe critic who ran out of valid criticisms------>The moment you use the term "Overrated", you lose the argument irony much ? saying anyone lost any argument because they used [insert term XY ] is simply ignorance wich is usually the result of people running out of valid arguments. honestly your complaint sounds more like you are frustrated that other people dont like what you like . dont get me wrong i totally agree that any critical statement should be backed up be critique but that isnt the vibe your post is giving off |
| "I don't understand how the mind of a person who unironically uses the term "Overrated" works.." Yes, I can absolutely see... |
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