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Jul 26, 2020 2:54 PM
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This second part of the season is incredible.

There are still twists and fantastic events, moreover, the animations and music are the best I've ever seen so far.

(regarding OST, in my opinion, only AoT is better)

Sorry for the bad english :) I'm italian
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I think it's alright, I haven't been the biggest fan of the whole Alicization season but I've been kinda hyped to see how our boy ends up at the end of all this.

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Jul 26, 2020 3:09 PM
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After Winx Fairies bullshit and genderbent Kirito taking edginess to the whole new level, it would require some sort of talent to make it worse, but Alicization is indeed an upgrade.
Most likely because Kirito, which is one the worst written characters ever written, spent second half of it in catatonic state, while the first fixed everything that was wrong with predecessors.
But those unnecessary rape scenes...
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Ah yeah, as for the topic. Didn't watch it (I looked at the rape scene just to see how stupid it was, definitely not disappointed). I dropped everything SAO related after Ordinal Scale. Wanna know what I think about it? Hated everything! Nothing was good aside from its premise. Here ya go!
Jul 26, 2020 3:14 PM
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After the first season, I don't think anyone with a couple hundred brain cells would go on to watch the second season
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Well how much did you like the other seasons of SAO? Considering I found them mediocre at best, downright bad at worst, I sincerely doubt this new season would be much of an outlier. Even if there's a cool fight scene, the mind numbing plot holes, plot armor, the Gary Stu/harem shit would bring it right back down. It was like this from Season 1, Episode 1, to the moment Asune miraculously took on a Goddess account that the researchers just conveniently "forgot" about, which is as much as I can remember about the last season.
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Jul 26, 2020 3:21 PM
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I'd say it's pretty average in every aspect
Jul 26, 2020 3:21 PM
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Oeufhbpi said:
After the first season, I don't think anyone with a couple hundred brain cells would go on to watch the second season


I have too much time sadly, or maybe I lost my brain cells already I watching it, but I gave first season around 3 rate if I remember correctly.
Jul 26, 2020 3:22 PM
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This season of SAO reminds me of Fate Stay Night. I do think it is the best season so far.
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Nah dude there is a lot of things that are just objectively bad here.

It's obvious that author kun trys to improve his writing and stuff but the thing about spawning people in from outside just makes litterally no sense.

The plan to get kirito back is 1 really more a nice guess at something that sounds possible in a philosophy class.
Not something actually applicable.

And the way the idea was introduced was pretty awful.
Instead of building the idea in an interesting and engaging way we get ScientistSu GuySU just guess the solution correctly while wasting a huge portion on the episode on it .



Edit: not to mention the incredibly dragged out ecchi scene
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I've only ever considered the Mother's Roasrio arc to be the only actual good thing about SAO prior to the Alicization arc. That being said, the Alicization arc so far has been quite a blast to watch and easily tops the content of the previous arcs so i'm hoping its finale doesn't disappoint.
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ReegrezSNK said:
Oeufhbpi said:
After the first season, I don't think anyone with a couple hundred brain cells would go on to watch the second season


I have too much time sadly, or maybe I lost my brain cells already I watching it, but I gave first season around 3 rate if I remember correctly.


No one would want to waste their time. I believe you lost a few brain cells while watching it. That is understandable, however.
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Btw adding to the list

First half of the underworld war had 2 really cool death scenes for characters nobody cares about.
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Imagine the impact if we actually gave a something on the death of >roadblock cocky student< and >female knight that exists for 1 Scene<
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I defiantly agree that the animation is amazing and the fights look awesome however I wouldn't say that the whole war of the underworld hasn't been as good as the first half of alisization in my opinion. But obviously it hasn't finished yet so I imagine the best bits are yet to come!!
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Oeufhbpi said:
ReegrezSNK said:


I have too much time sadly, or maybe I lost my brain cells already I watching it, but I gave first season around 3 rate if I remember correctly.


No one would want to waste their time. I believe you lost a few brain cells while watching it. That is understandable, however.


You have to remember you can find on this site a lot of people who have average score 4.0 or less ( which means Bad) and they have watched 20000 episodes of anime so I guess people love waste thier time. For me personally great animation its enough to waste 20 minutes per week to watch it, even if story and characters are average or even bad.
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I kind of lost interest after the last season. People were talking about how amazing Alicization is and how I should totally go back to SAO for it and it was a mixed bag, definitely had its moments, but it was still plagued by a good chunk of the issues that were present since the very first season. It's a little frustrating because SAO seems to be right up my alley, I really want to like it, but I always end up not being able to.
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ReegrezSNK said:
Oeufhbpi said:


No one would want to waste their time. I believe you lost a few brain cells while watching it. That is understandable, however.


You have to remember you can find on this site a lot of people who have average score 4.0 or less ( which means Bad) and they have watched 20000 episodes of anime so I guess people love waste thier time. For me personally great animation its enough to waste 20 minutes per week to watch it, even if story and characters are average or even bad.


You have to remember you can find on this site a lot of people who have average score 4.0 or less ( which means Bad) and they have watched 20000 episodes of anime so I guess people love waste thier time. For me personally great animation its enough to waste 20 minutes per week to watch it, even if story and characters are average or even bad.

I agree
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Just going to add some points that I mentioned on discuss that are just weird at best with the current season .may be a bit out of context but I'm not typing all of that again xD initely liked the first halt of alicization more


>nobody asking any questions about how #savetheunderworld makes litteraly no sense at all.

"ouh no . our servers were hacked. so instead of taking them down and fixing the issue we ask randoms on the internet to go into our beta . wich would be pointless against hackers but whatever "

the most logcial explanation is that this is supposed to be a PR stunt.
Doubt it would really trick anybody XD








>well fair enough for how they got there.
But even so the self image hypothesis is a crazy leap of logic that a scientist would not just "guess"

the idea explored here is something that anime toys arround with from time to time.
That by giving someone an idea of what they are collected based on what others know you could recreate how this person is.
but that is just an idea that itself has many questionable factors .
very likely resulting in something that kiritos friends think he is instead of making an self image that actually is 100% how kirito viewd himself.
the way it is presented here is just " hey this is like that , correct ?" ( btw also spending so much time of an episode just having science-guy guess the solution correctly is not good writing.
you could have build that idea up and explored it in so many interesting ways but i guess the expo dump is easier.

there is another issue with the idea of transferring accounts from game A to Game B .
Well in the first place if that was possible there is no need for using the vector account at all.
"yes but tiger its so op :o "
fair point but i will get to that in a sec .
its going to be much more obvious why not being compatable was my assumtion. because allowing this opens arround 50 new cans full of worms that dont make sense

the way accounts or save data is stored is not determined by the engine it is running on.
its fair to assume that SAO might have been build in this way to make it easier for future games coming from this seed .
But if that is the case then that would mean accounts( or save data to be more accurate in a context like this ) is client side.
meaning that it is not data from the game itself interacting with the player and their client but data provided by the client that is on side of the player. wich is enforced by how the underworld was basically offline for the longest time and just went online accepting new players just fine.

on that note. since underworld was offline for so long giving Access to it to new people implies that either side would have control over that feature.
if the Roppongi branch has this kind of influence on the sea turtle they should be able to shut vector and gang out . and prevent them from getting players in.

if the controll is on vectors side however ( wich may be more likely as they are there) they could shut the other side out .
or you know . they could cut the internet connection altogether and just duke it out without the influence of outside sources

there is another issue with items that comes with the idea of account transfer.
Games data is not shared by games .
different games running on the same engine still have different codes and different sets of data.
we see that Kirito trows away all his sao items when comming to alfheim because he fears the risk of getting banned for cheating ( wich yet again enforces the idea of save modification) . mind you that alfeim is litteraly a slightly modified reskin of sao yet those problems accoured.

but underworld being a very obviously very different type of game has no problem with having items transfered ?
doubt .
we see kiritos friends bringing all their stuff with them

back to the idea of client side save states. wich opens it up to modification.
We see that in games that actually do work this way.

Nothing would be stopping you from creating software ( or a game for that matter) that easily gives you the option to overlevel yourself.

In real life this issue is usually handled by the games company counteracting those manipulations.
Dark Souls for example doesnt like players hacking in items or making absurd unkillable characters so they ban you if they notice this sort of save modification.
But nobody governs the underworld like this.
contrary actually.
if we assume that the Roppongi branch supports this interference of the rejected-women-club and co then that would basically mean that the game devs support the save manipulation and could allow to make them however overpowerd they want to be.

on that note.
remodelling terrain having a straining effect on the brain does not really make sense.
if the processing is done by Underworld why would if affect your brain ?
its only there so asuna doesnt abuse that power .
but as we just laid out. if Accounts and Save data are compatible there is really no need for any of that since you could just make an overpowered character .

you can try to explain that away but its just going to open up new cans of worms.
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CuteAssTiger said:
Just going to add some points that I mentioned on discuss that are just weird at best with the current season .may be a bit out of context but I'm not typing all of that again xD initely liked the first halt of alicization more


>nobody asking any questions about how #savetheunderworld makes litteraly no sense at all.

"ouh no . our servers were hacked. so instead of taking them down and fixing the issue we ask randoms on the internet to go into our beta . wich would be pointless against hackers but whatever "

the most logcial explanation is that this is supposed to be a PR stunt.
Doubt it would really trick anybody XD








>well fair enough for how they got there.
But even so the self image hypothesis is a crazy leap of logic that a scientist would not just "guess"

the idea explored here is something that anime toys arround with from time to time.
That by giving someone an idea of what they are collected based on what others know you could recreate how this person is.
but that is just an idea that itself has many questionable factors .
very likely resulting in something that kiritos friends think he is instead of making an self image that actually is 100% how kirito viewd himself.
the way it is presented here is just " hey this is like that , correct ?" ( btw also spending so much time of an episode just having science-guy guess the solution correctly is not good writing.
you could have build that idea up and explored it in so many interesting ways but i guess the expo dump is easier.

there is another issue with the idea of transferring accounts from game A to Game B .
Well in the first place if that was possible there is no need for using the vector account at all.
"yes but tiger its so op :o "
fair point but i will get to that in a sec .
its going to be much more obvious why not being compatable was my assumtion. because allowing this opens arround 50 new cans full of worms that dont make sense

the way accounts or save data is stored is not determined by the engine it is running on.
its fair to assume that SAO might have been build in this way to make it easier for future games coming from this seed .
But if that is the case then that would mean accounts( or save data to be more accurate in a context like this ) is client side.
meaning that it is not data from the game itself interacting with the player and their client but data provided by the client that is on side of the player. wich is enforced by how the underworld was basically offline for the longest time and just went online accepting new players just fine.

on that note. since underworld was offline for so long giving Access to it to new people implies that either side would have control over that feature.
if the Roppongi branch has this kind of influence on the sea turtle they should be able to shut vector and gang out . and prevent them from getting players in.

if the controll is on vectors side however ( wich may be more likely as they are there) they could shut the other side out .
or you know . they could cut the internet connection altogether and just duke it out without the influence of outside sources

there is another issue with items that comes with the idea of account transfer.
Games data is not shared by games .
different games running on the same engine still have different codes and different sets of data.
we see that Kirito trows away all his sao items when comming to alfheim because he fears the risk of getting banned for cheating ( wich yet again enforces the idea of save modification) . mind you that alfeim is litteraly a slightly modified reskin of sao yet those problems accoured.

but underworld being a very obviously very different type of game has no problem with having items transfered ?
doubt .
we see kiritos friends bringing all their stuff with them

back to the idea of client side save states. wich opens it up to modification.
We see that in games that actually do work this way.

Nothing would be stopping you from creating software ( or a game for that matter) that easily gives you the option to overlevel yourself.

In real life this issue is usually handled by the games company counteracting those manipulations.
Dark Souls for example doesnt like players hacking in items or making absurd unkillable characters so they ban you if they notice this sort of save modification.
But nobody governs the underworld like this.
contrary actually.
if we assume that the Roppongi branch supports this interference of the rejected-women-club and co then that would basically mean that the game devs support the save manipulation and could allow to make them however overpowerd they want to be.

on that note.
remodelling terrain having a straining effect on the brain does not really make sense.
if the processing is done by Underworld why would if affect your brain ?
its only there so asuna doesnt abuse that power .
but as we just laid out. if Accounts and Save data are compatible there is really no need for any of that since you could just make an overpowered character .

you can try to explain that away but its just going to open up new cans of worms.



About the first point: Why they cant just shut down the servers

If they turn off, kirito dies
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glad to know that you have to sit through 50+ eps to get to the good parts
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Is it a meme to say that the new season of SAO is amazing?
Because people have been saying that since season 2, and said season 2 turned out even worse than season 1.
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sao has always been good .
alicization arc is great
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DeltaLight said:
CuteAssTiger said:
Just going to add some points that I mentioned on discuss that are just weird at best with the current season .may be a bit out of context but I'm not typing all of that again xD initely liked the first halt of alicization more


>nobody asking any questions about how #savetheunderworld makes litteraly no sense at all.

"ouh no . our servers were hacked. so instead of taking them down and fixing the issue we ask randoms on the internet to go into our beta . wich would be pointless against hackers but whatever "

the most logcial explanation is that this is supposed to be a PR stunt.
Doubt it would really trick anybody XD








>well fair enough for how they got there.
But even so the self image hypothesis is a crazy leap of logic that a scientist would not just "guess"

the idea explored here is something that anime toys arround with from time to time.
That by giving someone an idea of what they are collected based on what others know you could recreate how this person is.
but that is just an idea that itself has many questionable factors .
very likely resulting in something that kiritos friends think he is instead of making an self image that actually is 100% how kirito viewd himself.
the way it is presented here is just " hey this is like that , correct ?" ( btw also spending so much time of an episode just having science-guy guess the solution correctly is not good writing.
you could have build that idea up and explored it in so many interesting ways but i guess the expo dump is easier.

there is another issue with the idea of transferring accounts from game A to Game B .
Well in the first place if that was possible there is no need for using the vector account at all.
"yes but tiger its so op :o "
fair point but i will get to that in a sec .
its going to be much more obvious why not being compatable was my assumtion. because allowing this opens arround 50 new cans full of worms that dont make sense

the way accounts or save data is stored is not determined by the engine it is running on.
its fair to assume that SAO might have been build in this way to make it easier for future games coming from this seed .
But if that is the case then that would mean accounts( or save data to be more accurate in a context like this ) is client side.
meaning that it is not data from the game itself interacting with the player and their client but data provided by the client that is on side of the player. wich is enforced by how the underworld was basically offline for the longest time and just went online accepting new players just fine.

on that note. since underworld was offline for so long giving Access to it to new people implies that either side would have control over that feature.
if the Roppongi branch has this kind of influence on the sea turtle they should be able to shut vector and gang out . and prevent them from getting players in.

if the controll is on vectors side however ( wich may be more likely as they are there) they could shut the other side out .
or you know . they could cut the internet connection altogether and just duke it out without the influence of outside sources

there is another issue with items that comes with the idea of account transfer.
Games data is not shared by games .
different games running on the same engine still have different codes and different sets of data.
we see that Kirito trows away all his sao items when comming to alfheim because he fears the risk of getting banned for cheating ( wich yet again enforces the idea of save modification) . mind you that alfeim is litteraly a slightly modified reskin of sao yet those problems accoured.

but underworld being a very obviously very different type of game has no problem with having items transfered ?
doubt .
we see kiritos friends bringing all their stuff with them

back to the idea of client side save states. wich opens it up to modification.
We see that in games that actually do work this way.

Nothing would be stopping you from creating software ( or a game for that matter) that easily gives you the option to overlevel yourself.

In real life this issue is usually handled by the games company counteracting those manipulations.
Dark Souls for example doesnt like players hacking in items or making absurd unkillable characters so they ban you if they notice this sort of save modification.
But nobody governs the underworld like this.
contrary actually.
if we assume that the Roppongi branch supports this interference of the rejected-women-club and co then that would basically mean that the game devs support the save manipulation and could allow to make them however overpowerd they want to be.

on that note.
remodelling terrain having a straining effect on the brain does not really make sense.
if the processing is done by Underworld why would if affect your brain ?
its only there so asuna doesnt abuse that power .
but as we just laid out. if Accounts and Save data are compatible there is really no need for any of that since you could just make an overpowered character .

you can try to explain that away but its just going to open up new cans of worms.



About the first point: Why they cant just shut down the servers

If they turn off, kirito dies


Yeah but that is not an explanation that makes sense for the general internet in Sao

The hashtag was started to trick players all over the world into attacking the Japanese players.
But the explanation provided makes litterally no sense.
So I don't see how that would trick a lot of people.

Im Not suggesting to actually shut down the server.
What I'm saying is that the lie made up to trick the players isn't a convincing lie
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K_n_i_g_h_t said:
sao has always been good .
alicization arc is great


personally i love it, but it have his problems xD

CuteAssTiger said:
DeltaLight said:



About the first point: Why they cant just shut down the servers

If they turn off, kirito dies


Yeah but that is not an explanation that makes sense for the general internet in Sao

The hashtag was started to trick players all over the world into attacking the Japanese players.
But the explanation provided makes litterally no sense.
So I don't see how that would trick a lot of people.

Im Not suggesting to actually shut down the server.
What I'm saying is that the lie made up to trick the players isn't a convincing lie


i can agree but 10000 people falling in the trap is not actually that much considering how famous are vr games in sao world
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DeltaLight said:
CuteAssTiger said:


Yeah but that is not an explanation that makes sense for the general internet in Sao

The hashtag was started to trick players all over the world into attacking the Japanese players.
But the explanation provided makes litterally no sense.
So I don't see how that would trick a lot of people.

Im Not suggesting to actually shut down the server.
What I'm saying is that the lie made up to trick the players isn't a convincing lie


i can agree but 10000 people falling in the trap is not actually that much considering how famous are vr games in sao world


its still pretty weird that they just dont notice that things arent adding up when they see the situation ingame .
there are countless other issues with the idea of just spawning players in thou .

ive listed some points here that i had been discussion with a couple people on disqus .


i enjoy the season but i wouldnd say its amazing or anything
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There's no point in taking SAO's plot overly seriously. Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of computers and networks would instantly see how silly it is. But let's not focus on that. No one expected SAO's writers to be computer scientists, or even interview them. For instance, for a top secret government project, where the only subjects are local (e.g. Kirito and everyone in that cube), why was the game online in the first place? Why wouldn't it be safely on a local network, with incompatible protocols as the internet -- which the military uses today? If we want to talk plot holes like this, we could go all day, but it's not even the most egregious ones that involve internal world consistency.
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Disagree.

The first arc of Alicization got me intrigued, made me thought SAO could finally have some good writing and plot for once.
It goes downhill and become repetitive/ predictable after they start climbing the dumb tower.

Plot gets thinner the deeper the season goes.
Not to mention that totally out of place tentacle rape.

All it has is good OST, sometimes good animation, and good character design.

JustMonaka said:
Is it a meme to say that the new season of SAO is amazing?
Because people have been saying that since season 2, and said season 2 turned out even worse than season 1.


And season 3 even worse than Season 2 XD.
When they fight the dark territory at least it feels distinct in some regard for the enemy side of thing. Though the plot is thin, at least is enjoyable.
This season fighting a bunch of nameless faceless nobody and old characters really gets boring.
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The sound design is definitely my favorite.

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How many girls are in the Kirito harem now? I dropped the series a couple episodes into season 2 and I think it was like 7?
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How many girls are in the Kirito harem now? I dropped the series a couple episodes into season 2 and I think it was like 7?
Well, they're still inventing ways to increase the harem. The latest story traps Kirito in another game without Asuna and erases all his memory, conveniently.
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There's no point in taking SAO's plot overly seriously. Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of computers and networks would instantly see how silly it is. But let's not focus on that. No one expected SAO's writers to be computer scientists, or even interview them. For instance, for a top secret government project, where the only subjects are local (e.g. Kirito and everyone in that cube), why was the game online in the first place? Why wouldn't it be safely on a local network, with incompatible protocols as the internet -- which the military uses today? If we want to talk plot holes like this, we could go all day, but it's not even the most egregious ones that involve internal world consistency.


Well my assumption is that underworld was offline local for the longest time.
It makes no sense to have it any other way .

And sure Sao was never really realistic but it gets to the point where the fans have to explain away stuff that makes no sense wich then in Turn opens more plotholes and just goes on and on

There are many other issues besides plotholes like that.
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CuteAssTiger said:
katsucats said:
There's no point in taking SAO's plot overly seriously. Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of computers and networks would instantly see how silly it is. But let's not focus on that. No one expected SAO's writers to be computer scientists, or even interview them. For instance, for a top secret government project, where the only subjects are local (e.g. Kirito and everyone in that cube), why was the game online in the first place? Why wouldn't it be safely on a local network, with incompatible protocols as the internet -- which the military uses today? If we want to talk plot holes like this, we could go all day, but it's not even the most egregious ones that involve internal world consistency.


Well my assumption is that underworld was offline local for the longest time.
It makes no sense to have it any other way .
Then how did they get tens of thousands of players to magically dive into that world? One would have to assume that the system has network capabilities, which is a terrible idea for a top secret project. And assuming they needed a direct interface with Kirito's soul to experience that game, how would bandwidth work for anyone connecting remotely, never mind tens of thousands of players simultaneously? For such a project, for someone to be able to just sit down and "hack" the terminal is pretty ridiculous to begin with.

Well, this shit was distracting but I don't blame them completely. This reminds me of when Iron Man discovered time travel by finding "the eigenvalue of a Mobius strip", which is a geometrical conclusion (fairly simple one at that) that has nothing to do with time travel.

So yeah, anime and movies pull this kind of shit all the time.
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press x to doubt

but then again, every anime needs a chance to prove its worth...


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really? imo the previous season's war was much better. the harem and outside people joining the fight ruined it for me tbh.
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The first episode as AMAZING with Leafa getting tentacle raped; the last 2 episodes, not that much.
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I literally stopped watching SAO after GGO lmao.
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I dropped it 2 episodes in of part 1 is it worth watching. Kinda killed me about the whole sleepy kirito thing if you know what i mean
Jul 27, 2020 12:47 AM

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Better than the previous seasons maybe, but still bad imo. That however is fine and its still fun to watch. It just probably has more actual plotholes than minutes of runtime, i didnt count though.

When fans try to explain said plotholes it more often than not opens even more of them.
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Alicization and War of the Underworld are good, has great animation, music and fighting scenes.

If you ask me overall SAO is a good show, the reason why so many people hate it is mostly because its popularity. We all know it's cool to hate popular shows
Jul 27, 2020 1:45 AM
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If you say so. Still not gonna watch it tho.
Jul 27, 2020 5:18 AM

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Every time a new season of SAO gets released, its fans are screaming "This season is actually amazing!".

So the last few times it actually wasn't?
Will some newcomer eat through 4 parts + movie + spin off just to check how good is this 5-th part?

Come on you guys, learn how to praise it better - "Still incredibly good! Still emotionally engaging!", "Invents new creative ways to explore the deep themes of the original and to make you cry!", "More rape!"...


PS
Since we are talking about italian food I am a man of simple needs - just give me some gorgonzola, garlic and tomatoes.
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Jul 27, 2020 7:10 AM

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its fuckin stupid just like the rest of the series
Jul 27, 2020 7:20 AM

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I want to power through SAO 2 and other stuff to get to Alicization.
Jul 27, 2020 7:57 AM
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Va bene :) , SAO is interesting, nothing much to say about as you told the music is the best so far.
Jul 27, 2020 8:00 AM

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I just feel like any SAO series without Kirito as a main character is actually interesting, like GGO alternative
Jul 27, 2020 11:22 AM

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Piromysl said:
After Winx Fairies bullshit and genderbent Kirito taking edginess to the whole new level, it would require some sort of talent to make it worse, but Alicization is indeed an upgrade.
Most likely because Kirito, which is one the worst written characters ever written, spent second half of it in catatonic state, while the first fixed everything that was wrong with predecessors.
But those unnecessary rape scenes...


SAO specialist here. Those rape scenes aren't unnecessary. First of all I'd like to say, there are no rape scenes in SAO, I'm not that educated in rape but from all the hentai I've watched, my knowledge tells me that it was "Attempt to rape" they never fully raped anyone in SAO, the reason why I always point this out is because some people who have never watched SAO end up thinking that there are actual rape scenes like Goblin Slayer or Berserk, which is completely false. But let's just call it rape for now because it's easier. I presume that you are talking about the rape scene with the Nobles and Eugeo? Allow me to explain why that scene is necessary.

If that rape scene wasn't there, then the story wouldn't have moved forward, its because those nobles did something as disgusting and inhumane as rape that lead Eugeo to attack them, which is why Kirito also attacked them. Both of them attacked, and they broke the Taboo Index. And because they broke the Taboo Index is why they were able to meet Alice and go to the Church. If that rape scene wasn't there, Eugeo would've never attacked the Nobles, which would mean that they wouldn't break the Taboo Index. It was a major step for the story because all the major fights and great stuff were after they went to the Church.

So you see, that scene wasn't unnecessary. But the "Attempt to rape" scenes from ALO and GGO was very unnecessary, I guess they were there for shock value but not everyone felt the same.




I said keep your hands on the table
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Arin-san said:
Piromysl said:
After Winx Fairies bullshit and genderbent Kirito taking edginess to the whole new level, it would require some sort of talent to make it worse, but Alicization is indeed an upgrade.
Most likely because Kirito, which is one the worst written characters ever written, spent second half of it in catatonic state, while the first fixed everything that was wrong with predecessors.
But those unnecessary rape scenes...


SAO specialist here. Those rape scenes aren't unnecessary. First of all I'd like to say, there are no rape scenes in SAO, I'm not that educated in rape but from all the hentai I've watched, my knowledge tells me that it was "Attempt to rape" they never fully raped anyone in SAO, the reason why I always point this out is because some people who have never watched SAO end up thinking that there are actual rape scenes like Goblin Slayer or Berserk, which is completely false. But let's just call it rape for now because it's easier. I presume that you are talking about the rape scene with the Nobles and Eugeo? Allow me to explain why that scene is necessary.

If that rape scene wasn't there, then the story wouldn't have moved forward, its because those nobles did something as disgusting and inhumane as rape that lead Eugeo to attack them, which is why Kirito also attacked them. Both of them attacked, and they broke the Taboo Index. And because they broke the Taboo Index is why they were able to meet Alice and go to the Church. If that rape scene wasn't there, Eugeo would've never attacked the Nobles, which would mean that they wouldn't break the Taboo Index. It was a major step for the story because all the major fights and great stuff were after they went to the Church.

So you see, that scene wasn't unnecessary. But the "Attempt to rape" scenes from ALO and GGO was very unnecessary, I guess they were there for shock value but not everyone felt the same.


mr. Sao specialist, i let u know that I Agree
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Jul 27, 2020 11:31 AM

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Disagree.

The first arc of Alicization got me intrigued, made me thought SAO could finally have some good writing and plot for once.
It goes downhill and become repetitive/ predictable after they start climbing the dumb tower.

Plot gets thinner the deeper the season goes.
Not to mention that totally out of place tentacle rape.

All it has is good OST, sometimes good animation, and good character design.
+1.My thoughts exactly.I thought the first arc of Alicization was pretty good and somehow balanced Kirito's OPness but the show started to decline after the 'attempt to rape" which fanbois defend as the most critical scene(important,yes but handled like shit).Then it went villain of the week format with Zanpakuto swords.
And War of underworld is disappointment after disappointment.Kawahara isn't even trying.They left the admins on the Villain side without any encryption because they thought no was gonna use it.I have never seen such a lazy excuse.
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It is not. The Alicization part (not War of Underworld) was okay compared to the previous SAO, but it is definitely going downhill after the release of War of Underworld.
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glac1er said:
It is not. The Alicization part (not War of Underworld) was okay compared to the previous SAO, but it is definitely going downhill after the release of War of Underworld.



To me instead Alicization seemed slow initially, then on the end and with the arrival of WoU it went up a lot
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