| Watch it, and be surprised. |
| Hear this from so many people and I just don't understand it. Easily my favourite arc. Ending to this arc is sublime. |
| I have a third testicle that gives me psychic powers |
| The beginning of the arc is definitely slow and boring for me, but it's going to get bloody and unmerciful after the beginning. |
| Absolutely. In the manga all these exhausting inner-monologues, exposition dumps etc. are bad enough, but in the 2011 anime it nearly drove me to suicide. I still remember that part where Gon confronts Neferpitou. That scene was fricking horrible. It's like: Gon says something, killuas inner-monologue, Narrator tells us what Neferpitou thinks, and repeat. |
MySweetLuciferJan 9, 2020 11:04 AM
| You should drop this. It's only getting worse from where you are. The ending of this arc is the most anticlimatic ending of a shounen arc I've ever seen. |
Tomwilde4 said: I love this show so much the hunter exam arc was brilliant the yorknew arc and the greed island arc were also really good watches but now im into the chimera ant arc and its just flopped for me, when does it get better im on episode 90 and still not feeling this arc and im not enjoying it but i want to Tbh you should just drop it if you're bored. The story is focused on so many side characters and you won't see much of KilluGon even if you go on :( But i think you should continue till episode 110. Still worth it since you said you liked yorknew arc. I think the moment the king was born the story really gets exciting. And that's exactly where you are right now.... |
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| as much as i love hxh and the chimera ant arc, i do remember it as being kind of exhausting. all the narration and dialogue can be a lot to take sometimes, and also its really dark which can make it feel like a drag. its still extremely memorable and very good though. op i checked your profile and see that you got through it, and neferpitou is on your favorites list. did you come around to it? do you like this arc now? |
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| Most of it sux. But the final part is actually pretty good. Especial when the helmet head dies. I was jumping with joy that one less enemy to worry about. The arc itself is an 8/10 because of the dead awful first two third. And the 27 mins narration per episode of what actually was happening was Hiatus worthy. No wonder why this manga will never end, haha! |
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| that's great! i'm glad you got through the slower parts. i very rarely give anything a 10 but this show got a 10 from me too. |
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| The problem with every thread like this is that it is ignorantly thoughtless. Here are two rudimental aspects of a fair criticism. One, you should have dissected it in details. Of course not all titles need to be viewed till the very end for one to judge, yet dissecting is regardless important. One problem that I have with many viewers is that they are quick to complain without putting any thoughts into certain things. With unhinged mentality of yours, the hatred you brought made little to no sense whatsoever. After thoroughly understanding the artistic decisions of the director/author, the allusions, the underlying themes, etc. then you may decide to bash/praise it publicly or not. Two, you need to lay some proper foundation for your argument. We are no egocentric kids to just blindly accept things as they are. We need to see your argumentation. This is baseless and foolish. Statement such as “boring” will not help. My questions are, “why?” and “how?”. So far, I’ve been completely objective here as I have yet to say anything about whether HxH is good or not. So mind you, I’m wholly talking about your poor and biased claim deriving from a problematic mindset. Since art is subjective, every criticism with genuine insights and thoughts put into it should be valid, however disagreeable. Your case isn’t, unfortunately enough. Now, I will talk subjectively. Personally, I view Phantom Troupe arc as one of the most flawed arcs (if not, the most) in this show. I will shortly divide this section into two main points - writing and directing (execution). On one hand, I believe the writing is incredible and very well thought out, I think we can all agree on that. Long story short, villains are great, Kurapika is great, Gon’s hypocrisy is well emphasized and Killua’s character slowly and steadily witnesses great changes. On the other hand, the directing is actually the worst out of all arcs. I feel as though the arc chooses to believe the audience is actual 13 year-olds while contradicting itself with its dark nature and complexity in writing, via the reoccurrence of allusions to a point of obviousness in themes. The tone is inconsistent, the storytelling is lazy and dull. The reason why I’m saying this is that the pacing is evidently artlessly unstable, which results in the aforementioned: the obviousness of themes is thrown into our face with repetitive expositions which hinders the pacing from respectability, while events are swiftly shifted as means of grabbing one’s attention (fast-paced is always more fun, and they sure did focus a lot upon psychological battles instead of anything else equally important). Therefore, PT arc easily comes across as endless entertainment of thoughtlessness, where one can enjoy it without thinking with any further depth. Poor directing, really. JustNino said: my honest opinion is that yorknew and chemira arc is a good arc but the thing is here. yorknew arc has so many flows that could treat as a bad arc. idk it's just I'm disappointed how it ended. Chemira arc has the best start idk you but i know yeah its slow pace but i enjoy it cuz they really did explain the concept and characters. and then heres the bullshit, Pitou could destroy them within 1 sec except netoro tbh. but wtf is this that gon act like his given the most stupid thing in anime the "power up" plot device. seriously kumugi's character ruined the hype i don't hate her but the result is a total let down. There's no developments in this arc only on killuas side. characters is so unbalanced you notice how the yankee can match the guards which is primarily bullshit Chimera Ant arc, to be frank, is highly calculative, mature and smart. You can debate however you want, but to me, this arc does not simply either tell or show, it does both without straightforwardness. Which reminds me of the movie Persona, but that’s a different story. What CA arc does so exceptionally is how it has a narrator and yet nothing is ever obvious. CA arc is something that doesn’t try to merely grab your attention, or to even entertain you. To me, it was philosophical, dark and heartbreaking rather than entertaining. Characterization is latent but is not quite ‘there’ for you to see. It is also poetic and rhetorically beautiful. From the parallel journey of Meruem and Gon, to the relationship of Gon and Pitou, and most significantly, the burst out of Gon’s hypocrisy and his character “defect” leading to a catastrophic event not for him but for Killua, all were just harmonic and gorgeous. Certainly I’m not gonna bypass Komugi, a key plot device of the arc. Komugi would be rather weak in terms of characterization if she were to standalone, and yet her human interaction with Meruem is beautiful. There are a lot of themes, heavy and difficult ones I’d say, in this arc that one simply tells but not verbally explores. This is on you, viewer. It is not the responsibility of the author and director if their desire is for you to explore and yet you didn’t. |
PreacheeFeb 3, 2020 12:09 AM
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Gon's power scaling suck, how the fuck does he even get the 'adult form' idea? Powerful enough to beat literally everyone currently in the human realm? Also, Gon get back to his healthy state without any serious drawback, just a starting from 0 Nen? Beside plot armor, can you explain logically in term of anime? |
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aLotQuestion_ said: Gon's power scaling suck, how the fuck does he even get the 'adult form' idea? Powerful enough to beat literally everyone currently in the human realm? Also, Gon get back to his healthy state without any serious drawback, just a starting from 0 Nen? Beside plot armor, can you explain logically in term of anime? This is an expected argument. Gon’s outburst is due to his character defect that is not at all contrived, which I presume you’ve already agreed, and the power ‘gaining’ plot device. I’m going to focus on this plot device only in this reply. I believe this power gain, or should I say, ‘trade’, is completely fair and not contrived. Throughout the series, it is hinted that Gon has unlimited ‘potential’, not power of course. No one can envision how far he could reach, and what his power can be if he reaches its highest state; perhaps no one is even sure if he has a highest state or not. Therefore, as Pitou says, he has to ‘trade his unlimited potential and talent’ for this one fight to defeat her. What she (please don’t debate about gender) does not know, though, is that Gon does not trade it to defeat her. Gon trades the power to massacre the hapless little soul. Once Gon trades his power, he can never use Nen again, theoretically. He has traded all his potential of his entire life for that ten minutes, and so he is in a detrimental state worse than death itself. So, the idea is that, he utilizes energy of “Nen” that he has, which is almost unlimited but is not yet sharpened, for that one moment of outburst. This is similar to Kurapika’s trade, yet a primary difference is that Kurapika in turn will not be able to use his special Nen power on anyone else but the Spiders; yet Gon trades for his lifetime energy. For what you said, “Gon gets back to his healthy state”, I’d therefore like to express great interest of the concepts introduced in the following arc - Election arc. I somewhat agree with the mindset behind what you said - “without any serious drawback” - but honestly it subjectively didn’t bother me much tbh. It should have caused severe drawbacks, but that’s why Killua, the only person who understands Alluka and Nanika both in terms of personality and ability, is able to heal Gon. The entire story of the Zoldyck family in this arc revolves around the possible disaster that could be brought upon a lot of characters, and to delve so profoundly into the concept of Alluka’s ability. All just to show the privilege of Killua’s demands, which is understandable and is undeniably interesting to me, but not the most convincing plot device certainly. Alluka’s power is like an equivalent exchange, yet Killua is the only one being able to give demands with no repercussions. It opens new stories and interesting ideas, but sure it’s not full of satisfaction. Hating it for the same reason is totally fair. |
PreacheeFeb 3, 2020 1:56 AM
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well, i already knew before i reply, i just wanted to lure you into further confirming it is plot armor. you explain splendidly that this is indeed plot armor. |
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aLotQuestion_ said: well, i already knew before i reply, i just wanted to lure you into further confirming it is plot armor. you explain splendidly that this is indeed plot armor. You’re too smart for me, and thanks for the compliment. |
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| Other than pacing issues and the absence of Kurapika and Leorio, I thought Chimera is perfect. I do however feel the hunter exam,greed island and election are shit. |
| It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person. |
| I'm surprised people actually consider this arc mature and smart when there is a narrator telling exactly what's happening on screen at the most inappropriate moment. Whatever, this arc is full of twist in its narration and yet it managed to be so predictable and disappointing at the same time. The worst is that it's just a boring revenge story for a character that never was introduced properly. So we had to go through 100 episodes of Gon training and building his harem for a final that made everything he did up until now worth for nothing. And everyone are dreadfully egocentric in this arc for not saying assholes, it's unbelievable. But to me the part that made me cringe the most was this dumbshit ant who just cared about playing board games. Despite him being portrayed as having over the top intelligence, he couldn't even win once against a blind and weak human. so, he just sucked after all. But the attempt to make a dramatic moment at their death was horribly funny. Okay you both suck we got it and don't try to make me believe you could develop feeling after that. lol I didn't know someone could write something as stupid as this. |
Adome said: Well then you have pretty low standards because the remake botched those arcs. Actually, 2011 is only worthwhile for making an animated Chimera Ant arc (and Election), everything else was better in the original. I honestly believe the remake improved the other arcs. I watched the original HxH before the remake but I've always resonated stronger with the show's lighter themes, and much of the direction complimented those aspects more in the remake. I'm probably in the minority but I really disliked the chimera ant arc, save for a few things. |
| i hated gon in this arc. i hated killua in this arc. i hated ikalgo. i hated knov. i hated knuckle. and i hated biscuit. all of the characteristic of the main cast were trown off the sea and not to be seen again. the one line i hated the most came from gon. fucking kid want to kill a human to show that you are better than an ant???? can someone logic that out for me?? please... and killua fucking new about the needle in his forehead how exactly?? knuckle. doesnt really think does he?? and the ant... forgetable. nope cant remember anything about them. and i have to sat through about 3 times watching this arc. just try to think why ppl say its that good?? |
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