| IMO, it's really vague. Everything just seems to happen when there shouldn't be a reason for it. Part 7 Part 6 Part 5 Part 2 Part 4 Part 3 Part 8=1 |
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| At first I disliked it but after I read ~30 chapters it actually became really fun. Part 7 Part 5=8 Part 3 Part 2 Part 6 Part 4 Part 1 |
NorbiZJul 29, 2019 3:36 AM
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| Tbh, it's easily the worst Jojo part in my books. I have literally zero drive to read it at the moment. |
Hunter_Garou said: CondemneDio said: How is it the worst part when you just said you haven't read it? That makes no sense !!! Also, Jojolion is not the worst part, looking at it objectively, it's art style is far superior to Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3, The action is mostly better. The themes are mostly better than Part 1. I don't know how people say Jojolion is the worst part, that is just dumb. I never understand how people come to that conclusion Tbh, it's easily the worst Jojo part in my books. I have literally zero drive to read it at the moment. Read again; I have read it. I have no drive to continue reading from where I left off. Claiming something is objective doesn't make it objective. Go bother someone else. |
| The thing I said since the first few volumes of this part is that it has the potential to be either the best or the worst JoJo part, now it all hangs on how the ending will be. And given the number of plot holes already developed, I don't expect to be impressed much. At least the art is still very good, although it lacks the more exotic feeling of part 7, so it's not much of an improvement. My top would go something like this: 1. Steel Ball Run 2. Diamond is Unbreakable 3. Stone Ocean 4. Stardust Crusaders 5. Battle Tendency 6. Golden Wind 7. Phantom Blood I'm not sure if I want to put JoJolion above or below Golden Wind. Time will tell! |
Zura_OrokamonoOct 21, 2019 11:46 AM
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| For me its the most bizarre part so far and I love it despite its problems. I'm gonna be honest though it needs some work. So far i'd put it somewhere in the middle. |
DejaaaMar 13, 2019 3:22 PM
| It's too soon to say anything objectively about part 8 right now, surprisingly (given it's almost 20 volumes in), because so far there was a lot of pieces for a puzzle being gathered little by little without a very clear picture to it even now. I consider JoJo one big masterpiece with a slightly low point (part 1) and a very high point (part 7), with the parts in between varying from very good to great. Part 8 however really needs to give a definitive solid ground to its creative madness to sit in (thus far we only really got glimpses and hints of brilliance, but nothing too conclusive for the story itself... for now!), and I'm guessing we will get that whenever the main villain pop-up. |
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| I think we must wait to see how it will continue for saying if it's the worst part or viceversa,even if can be already said that it's not gonna be amazing as part 7(in part 7 at this point would have already happened a lot of things).For me to make more interesting Araki should reintroduce old characters in this new universe like kakyoin or rohan and maybe make the main antagonist as traitor between his acquaintances. For me the raking is this for now: Part 7 Part 6=4 Part 3 Part 5 Part 8 Part 2 Part 1 |
MucosaMar 20, 2019 6:31 AM
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| It's pretty enjoyable with lots of creativity and weirdness (having the target demographic shift was the greatest thing we could have asked for) and we are not that far from ending. Thus far for me: 1) Steel Ball Run 2) Diamond is Unbreakable 3) Battle Tendency 4) Stone Ocean 5) Jojolion (currently) 6) Golden Wind 7) Stardust Crusaders 8) Phantom Blood |
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| Jojolion is pretty.....interesting. It's probably one of the most plot-heavy jojo and the focus seems to be heavily on the mysterious things that are happening around our main character. it's gonna be a make or break it moment for this manga when the reveal of everything happened, i bet. |
| "This is boring...I'm bored..." |
| I like the main characters but it's kind of boring. |
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| IMO 4>7>5>8>2>3>6>1 |
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| Its been trash since the Vitamin C arc. It was good up until that point but it's completely lost its way. It's about to overtake SBR as the longest part but barely even holds a candle to it. Araki used to be good at balancing bizarreness and plot progression, but he isn't in this part. The bizarreness here just feels like unnecessary padding. He's wasting chapters on le random bizarre funny bits about a car being stuck in a tree, or about wireless charging, instead of getting on with the story. At least previous parts had payoffs for these bits, like the Heavy Weather arc. There's none here. Josuke is also completely uninteresting since we learn about who he truly is. You could argue that's because he is lost and doesn't know how to move forward, but that doesn't make for an interesting character - especially because he was like this before and wasn't so incredibly boring. His Plunder ability has also been completely forgotten. Araki has done a terrible job at handling his character. It also has some of the worst stands in the series tbh. Such a huge step down from SBR. What happened? 7 > >>> 4 > 6 >>> 2 > 5 > 3 > 1 > 8 |
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| I don't know part 8 is in such a weird space for me. I really want Araki to wrap this up really well. The plot progression is so incredibly slow for me. I don't know whether to hate or like it. It's so frustrating to me to read a part from my favorite series ever and just be unsure if I even like it. And I can't stop myself from reading it even though I shouldn't. |
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| my list would have to be part 8 part 7 part 4 part 5 part 6 part 3 part 2 part 1 |
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| I think it's by far Araki's best in terms of, well, everything. Character: Gappy, Yasuho, Jobin, etc all feel so real and three dimensional. I love Gappy's arc of self discovery. Art: Self explanatory. Fights: Vitamin C is my favorite fight in the series and there's so many other amazing ones. It's the only JoJo Part where I truly don't know where it's going and I love that. |
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| Part 8 is my favorite after Stardust Crusaders (yes, I'm a boomer). Also, really glad that troll votes were purged today from the entire site. The score was bumped back up to 8.40 and Part 8 is back into the top 200. Jojolion is actually the third highest-ranked part at present. |
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CallanDeMatrix said: CondemneDio said: worse than part 1?Tbh, it's easily the worst Jojo part in my books. I have literally zero drive to read it at the moment. In my opinion, yes. Part 1 was goofy and all, but it had Dio. |
| I can't wait for JoJolion to end so that I can write the longest most positive review ever. |
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| It has the same level of insanity and crazy battles as any other part. The story and the ned goals off the characters are also nuanced in a way. The problem that I have are with side characters. They commonly come and leave the main story in most cases never to be seen again. This is a real shame because there are a lot more interesting side characters compared to other jojos. |
| Okay, I'm all caught up on Jojolion. So far, it's an interesting part, I like the sort of unifying idea about this Part being about navigating an increasingly confusing and hostile modern world, exploiting things like existential doubt with Gappy, gender struggles with Yasuho, nature's cruelty with the Higashikata family curse and how some opt to inflict harm on/sacrifice others for their kin, and this whole messy web of sin and guilt and all, the mysteries about Gappy's origins and how that ties into the grander franchise lineage, etc. Maybe something on capitalism with how the Rokakaka fruit has become a luxury item despite being a form of medicine and all, a kind of unreliable, strange medicine, but medicine all the same, I feel like there were some bits mentioned thus far that were more meaningful, but they're escaping me atm. This is more of Araki's experimentation post-SO to shake things up a bit though, and while it is fascinating, I am not completely won over with it. I know by its nature it would be a bit trickier to have the tight-knit group dynamic the pre-SBR entries have (heck, even SBR is all about Johnny & Gyro's bonding and all) but I do kind of miss it since most characters are just kind of living their lives otherwise (well, the Higashikata at least) and Yasuho kind of comes and goes, though Rai is a decent late addition, but the lack of like a consistent group to bounce off one another, the indirect mystery and a non-traditional villain who doesn't have the same kind of masterminding and enduring presence makes this Part's structure feel a bit more stitched together and less like an organic progression at times, because it seems we're about at the end game but that the story has felt so small in a way. Also, I am rarely one to complain or notice "Araki forgot" but it is super glaring to me that Kyo is directly connected to Gappy but has done virtually NOTHING after her arc, like there's a prime opportunity for her to be heavily involved in the plot, or at least be aware of the goings-on despite her Stand maybe being weird to work into fights with other characters after and her being the Higashikata housekeeper and all, but feels like a huge missed opportunity though. Still, Gappy is one of the best Jojos, is a great villain, the mysteries are still engaging, some of the fights are incredibly tense, it just still feels all around quite good. Kind of reflects my feelings with Kanye West's post-Graduation discography: the other albums haven't quite met the consistency of the first 3, but I'm always intrigued at what the experimentation brings and really respect it. As for rankings, it would be: 8) Phantom Blood: the usual complaints 7) Stone Ocean: bottom of the barrel Stand fights, hate the weird "Geo-cache life hack search for Heaven by meeting X conditions" plot and how flimsy it feels, Jolyne is a weaker Jojo, Pucci I've pretty much forgotten about entirely besides being Dio's devotee, etc; it's saved by Foo Fighters, Weather Report's backstory, Hermes I guess and the odd other thing, but otherwise if it weren't for how compromised PB's story is along with these things, this would be the bottom for me 6) Stardust Crusaders: Araki just starting the Stand format and all, all around "good", decent cast, comedy, adventure, villain (not HUGE on Dio personally) and fights but some fights in the first half were a bit more boring at times and Jotaro is the worst Jojo. Next 3 are essentially tied, but to the nitty-gritty, gun to my head, if I had to give a number for each, then: 5) Steel Ball Run: 4) Battle Tendency: Joseph is absolutely hysterical, him & Caesar's bromanship is solid, it's a decent globetrotter with metrosexual Aztec vampire gods, cyborg Nazis, an Italian man with killer bubble blowing, etc, it's a decently paced, silly and exhilarating good time, just wish Joseph didn't get all the kills and maybe have a few more minions and such, expand the story a bit more. 3) Jojolion: outlined most of it earlier, doesn't always work, but this experimentation is at least a lot less thorny than SBR for me; some Stands still feel a bit unoriginal and hasn't returned to peak A-game, consistent fights, but still quite good. 2) Vento Aureo: yes, Golden Wind has a lot of easy stuff to pick apart at - Giorno is a strangely characterized lead, Araki gave him way too many damn abilities he kept forgetting about, the cast is a bit unbalanced in fights or characterization at times (Abbachio), it has less humour than other Parts, it has a bit of a slow start, Fugo, etc. But I just love the aesthetics of it a bunch, the adventure, I still like Bruno's gang a lot and Giorno himself, I like Diavolo as a villain (not just for Doppio), and most importantly it continues to be peak quality for Stand fights in the series, just an absolute blast. Stardust Crusaders but Italian and better, indeed (for me at least). 1) Diamond is Unbreakable: Best Jojo, best villain, some of the best Stand fights with almost no duds, pretty great cast all around, very funny, trims a lot of the usual redundant and baggy exposition, fantastic urban horror suspense in this built up community, just the best. A few weird quirks here and there, but negligible effect to the overall quality in the end. It's a bit much, but I guess I've never really posted about my thoughts about Jojo at length anywhere, so thought I'd spill a bit lol. |
AngelsArcanumMar 27, 2020 1:14 AM
| I actually really liked it even from chapter one, I loved the mystery aspect reminded me of part 4 (who would have known) |
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