Would you like an official Discord server to be added to MAL?
Yes
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522
No
5.4%
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Neither. I do not think it will change anything.
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597 votes
| I`ll make it simple and get straight to the point: I believe it would be great if you created an official Discord server for the MAL community. Not only is it free, but the various other options it provides would make it more than welcome by the community, I`m sure. Setting it up is also extremely simple (i.e. you can add the Discord widget somewhere on the site or just an icon leading to the invite link etc.), so all that is left for you to do is let people join and "maintain the order". Hopefully you will consider adding this for the MAL community to possibly make sharing opinions and discussing the things we all like an even more enjoyable experience. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What do you guys think? Should Discord be added as another means of communication in the MAL community? Comment below ^^ |
TenshoJul 27, 2017 9:47 AM
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| I believe that there is already an official discord sever for mal but I don't have the invite to it so I couldn't give you it |
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| I believe it would be nice, I don't know if they would want to implement it, however. You have my support~ |
Jon_Weekends said: No there isn't. Just an IRC.I believe that there is already an official discord sever for mal but I don't have the invite to it so I couldn't give you it --- discord is pretty fun, I use it as well most of the time to interact with my club people. But the downsides are pretty high as well. Bot spamming and lots of hate can circulate through it. On the plus side I would love to find newer mal people. Another noteworthy point is, who'll mod such a huge base population? On what rules? Even in IRC mods are scarce (not blaming them) so we'll need to employ other people which'll lead to discontent. |
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Iizbakaokay said: Jon_Weekends said: No there isn't. Just an IRC.I believe that there is already an official discord sever for mal but I don't have the invite to it so I couldn't give you it --- discord is pretty fun, I use it as well most of the time to interact with my club people. But the downsides are pretty high as well. Bot spamming and lots of hate can circulate through it. On the plus side I would love to find newer mal people. Another noteworthy point is, who'll mod such a huge base population? On what rules? Even in IRC mods are scarce (not blaming them) so we'll need to employ other people which'll lead to discontent. You can't bot spam in Discord servers? Also there's hate on this site as well everywhere lol. You're right about who will mod, there might just be recruitment if they decide to add Discord chat into the MAL community. |
Ninele said: My server got raided with scat porn once. It was just a normal user using a script to continuously post same thing so it's very much possible. Recruitment takes a long time usually, let's wait and see to the response I reckon.You can't bot spam in Discord servers? Also there's hate on this site as well everywhere lol. You're right about who will mod, there might just be recruitment if they decide to add Discord chat into the MAL community. |
IizyJul 30, 2016 5:44 AM
| I don't know why people write that they are approachable persons, if you were you wouldn't be on MAL. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Extended families or lovers on MAL are a farce. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Iizbakaokay said: Ninele said: My server got raided with sat porn once. It was just a normal user using a script to continuously post same thing so it's very much possible. Recruitment takes a long time usually, let's wait and see to the response I reckon.You can't bot spam in Discord servers? Also there's hate on this site as well everywhere lol. You're right about who will mod, there might just be recruitment if they decide to add Discord chat into the MAL community. Ban them. Simple. Also, you can put a limit for the time new members are allowed to talk in the Discord server. I think you know there's spam protection as well. If recruitment takes a long time then you know the saying. Good things come to those who wait. :) Anyways, I hope I'm not coming off offensive to you. I'm just trying to get my point across. <3 |
| It's true that there are a couple downsides to this, however I think the positives outweigh the negatives in this case. A Discord server can only improve community relations and help people to get in touch with the MAL staff much more easily, amongst other things :) |
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Ninele said: What should I be offended about this? We're both on equal footing, two mal users and getting our point across :IIizbakaokay said: My server got raided with sat porn once. It was just a normal user using a script to continuously post same thing so it's very much possible. Recruitment takes a long time usually, let's wait and see to the response I reckon. Ban them. Simple. Also, you can put a limit for the time new members are allowed to talk in the Discord server. I think you know there's spam protection as well. If recruitment takes a long time then you know the saying. Good things come to those who wait. :) Anyways, I hope I'm not coming off offensive to you. I'm just trying to get my point across. <3 I am voting 'yes' because I want to see if this is feasible or not. --- Also MAL staff like forum mods are 24x7 on IRC so reaching to them is pretty easy although they take some time to respond. |
| I don't know why people write that they are approachable persons, if you were you wouldn't be on MAL. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Extended families or lovers on MAL are a farce. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| I like the idea of there being a discord server. I'm a regular user of it so it'd be nice to be on a MAL server. |
 Was it the shyness in my soul that made me lonely just like you? No one noticed I was there, when I walked into the room. -Freddie Mercury |
striderzz said: I meant to type scat porn :/ You know me and my c,d,e key troubles.Iizbakaokay said: What's sat porn though? Satellite porn? XDMy server got raided with sat porn once. It was just a normal user using a script to continuously post same thing so it's very much possible. Recruitment takes a long time usually, let's wait and see to the response I reckon. Anyway good idea, I always disliked that IRC thing. |
| I don't know why people write that they are approachable persons, if you were you wouldn't be on MAL. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Extended families or lovers on MAL are a farce. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| I would support a MAL discord server and use it on a daily basis. |
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| *bump* Hopefully this post will be reviewed soon |
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| Even though I'm very new here, I would LOVE the idea of a Discord Server for MAL (Hell, I'd even consider making one). Not only does it benefit the community with real time chat, but it can also bring the community a little more together. |
| I think this idea is very great! I would like a Discord for MAL too =) |
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| Why would it have to be 'officially' supported/created? MAL is always open to creations of various sub-communities on external websites that MAL staff does not oversee (yet). By that I mean these sub-communities being created and appropriately run by normal members of MAL. I don't know if anyone has gone ahead and created it already. Discord is easy to handle. If anyone would be willing to set it up with me, we could work in a collaboration on the matter. It would instantly require some staff anyway, even if in lower amounts. |
Subpyro said: Why would it have to be 'officially' supported/created? MAL is always open to creations of various sub-communities on external websites that MAL staff does not oversee (yet). By that I mean these sub-communities being created and appropriately run by normal members of MAL. I don't know if anyone has gone ahead and created it already. Discord is easy to handle. If anyone would be willing to set it up with me, we could work in a collaboration on the matter. It would instantly require some staff anyway, even if in lower amounts. There is an unofficial MAL Discord server, but it is fairly inactive despite its numerous members. I am in the process of creating a Discord server, although so far not directly related to MAL (as I wish for MAL itself to create one as this post says), so if you want to join me with that, I`d be more than happy to invite you ^^ |
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| Activity is another matter. Just so you know, MAL has an official IRC channel and it is not precisely burning with activity, either. There are a few regulars and that's that. Pretty dead most of the time. So I do not believe changing the matter into something 'official' would help much. It's the community-orientated people that frequent such chats anyway. |
Subpyro said: Activity is another matter. Just so you know, MAL has an official IRC channel and it is not precisely burning with activity, either. There are a few regulars and that's that. Pretty dead most of the time. So I do not believe changing the matter into something 'official' would help much. It's the community-orientated people that frequent such chats anyway. In terms of activity, there is a big difference between "official" servers and "unofficial/community-driven" servers. It is a fact that as long as MAL puts a Discord server link on their website and claim it to be their official server, activity will be bursting on it. It`s just how it works and I do not intend to explain why right now, goumen. |
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| The way you talk, I'm sure you have much experience on the matter and of course, know better than anyone else what the ending result would be like. We should just comply with your undoubtedly correct vision that, despite having no actual ground to stand on such as examples of past cases, is just absolutely right. It just doesn't click for me how MAL openly shares their IRC channel in their FAQ section of the forums, openly shares the IRC moderators that moderate the channel and expresses it exists in every occasion where someone might want to chat about anime and manga somewhere, yet, despite all that, is a relatively dead place. I thought it might be because people in the majority here just aren't down for such matters, but I'm sure you would know better. |
Subpyro said: The way you talk, I'm sure you have much experience on the matter and of course, know better than anyone else what the ending result would be like. We should just comply with your undoubtedly correct vision that, despite having no actual ground to stand on such as examples of past cases, is just absolutely right. It just doesn't click for me how MAL openly shares their IRC channel in their FAQ section of the forums, openly shares the IRC moderators that moderate the channel and expresses it exists in every occasion where someone might want to chat about anime and manga somewhere, yet, despite all that, is a relatively dead place. I thought it might be because people in the majority here just aren't down for such matters, but I'm sure you would know better. Your sarcasm is unnecessary, my friend. The thing is, people just don't like IRC enough to be an active user of it. Discord, on the other hand is more visually appealing and easier to manage (with), making it (imo) a better way for community members to communicate with each other. The staff would have a much easier life with easily-managable permissions, roles etc. and the members would very likely enjoy the more fluid flow of conversations Discord enables them and, of course, the use of "mentions", sharing images in an easier fashion and the use of Voice Channels for various purposes besides random, normal conversations. All in all, I don't see any reason why the Discord server would be inactive. It's only a matter of properly presenting it to the community and the rest will go pretty much on it's own. Edit: Tbh, I believe anything beats IRC. |
KreateerAug 6, 2016 8:23 AM
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| I just dislike it when people express their visions as factual reality, especially in a commanding tone. I love debating ideas and possibilities. But I do not require lectures on something that I'm well-aware of. We have recently set up a Discord channel on one other community website. It was less active than Skype, but a bit more than the IRC. At any point, only a smaller selection of users frequent it all together and the reason is simple: people hold different preferences. Your main issue is generalizing what people like to do based on your personal preferences. I'll put it this way. You can attempt to convince the staff to put up an official Discord channel and advertise it accordingly. I would have nothing against it, the more features the merrier. Just do not throw your thinking of absolute truth of exceeding activity onto others. Because there will be no exceeding activity. It might and potentially will be higher than that on the IRC, but it won't break the roof. |
Subpyro said: I just dislike it when people express their visions as factual reality, especially in a commanding tone. I love debating ideas and possibilities. But I do not require lectures on something that I'm well-aware of. We have recently set up a Discord channel on one other community website. It was less active than Skype, but a bit more than the IRC. At any point, only a smaller selection of users frequent it all together and the reason is simple: people hold different preferences. Your main issue is generalizing what people like to do based on your personal preferences. I'll put it this way. You can attempt to convince the staff to put up an official Discord channel and advertise it accordingly. I would have nothing against it, the more features the merrier. Just do not throw your thinking of absolute truth of exceeding activity onto others. Because there will be no exceeding activity. It might and potentially will be higher than that on the IRC, but it won't break the roof. Exactly. I didn't mean to make it sound like having the Discord server is drastically gonna improve activity or something like that, but that it will most likely be bigger and more active than what it is now and will allow for better and simpler connection with the community. In any case, my point still stands: Anything is better than IRC and Discord is the best option to replace it with. |
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| That sounds better. If that is your true mindset, then the results might be similar to what you are expecting. Just for the next time, do watch what you say. Because nonsense like this does not really create a nice image: Kreateer said: It is a fact that as long as MAL puts a Discord server link on their website and claim it to be their official server, activity will be bursting on it. It`s just how it works and I do not intend to explain why right now, goumen. |
Subpyro said: That sounds better. If that is your true mindset, then the results might be similar to what you are expecting. Just for the next time, do watch what you say. Because nonsense like this does not really create a nice image: Kreateer said: It is a fact that as long as MAL puts a Discord server link on their website and claim it to be their official server, activity will be bursting on it. It`s just how it works and I do not intend to explain why right now, goumen. I wrote that as a quick reply and couldn't go into detail as I was busy, so I left it like that. Sry it mislead you. |
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| For Discord you'd need to download software. For IRC you could just use the IRC client you already use and there are lot of IRC clients to choose from. Problem with MAL and the IRC activity is that people don't want to "learn" new stuff and IRC is a bit complicated if you have to setup your own client and put in the info. (And more so if you want to register a nickname.) If you really want activity there you'd need to put a link somewhere in the navigation bar (under "community" or directly on top next to "community" and the other stuff). Somewhere in the FAQ ... that is not enough. If people don't know it exists they won't even look for it in the FAQ (lots of people don't read a FAQ - only if they have problems and need info). Similar for staffe members where the IRC mods are listet. But usually you don't checke the staff member website. Only if you need to contact someone or need to know tho is moderator or stuff like that. For people just updating their list there is no need to know about the staff. (Only if you post in forums or help adding stuff to the database you might want to know database and forum moderators.) IRC channel is more like a support channel only. Banned users get linked there and even get a link to a webchat client. Make some tuts with screenshots for popular clients (for different OS especially for mobile phones - a lot of people want to go online on mobile I think there are also IRC clients for mobile OS) and add a link in the navigation and more people might use IRC. |
Luthandorius said: For Discord you'd need to download software. This is incorrect. Discord is used for VoIP communications and instant messaging and runs on Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, Android, iOS, Linux and in a web browser. Hence one does not really have to download anything. |
| @eric Yes, but they keyword should be CHOOSE. You don't have to, I've used it for a quite long time without downloading anything... and it worked just fine. If there is a software to bash, Discord should be the very last one of its kind. I support the idea. Discord is great and it would be nice to have an official channel instead of a couple of unofficial ones |
| *bump* Waiting for official/staff reply on this. Let`s make this happen! :D |
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| We had a short discussion about this a while back with the forum moderators throwing out ideas here and there and seeing how it could work with IRC still being a thing. I do believe discord would get more traction and people would be more inclined to use it. The customization for it is also much easier than IRC and it just looks better overall. At the moment, it's still very much up in the air, but I'll bring up the topic again and see if anything new comes to the table in that regard. |
sarroush said: We had a short discussion about this a while back with the forum moderators throwing out ideas here and there and seeing how it could work with IRC still being a thing. You are aware that creating a bridge between the IRC and Discord takes little to no time at all, correct? |
| Okay I have tried this a bit. I don't like the web/browser client. Still need to try the downloadable client to see how it looks at my old screen with only 1024x768 resolution. :D I guess if people want it there is no reason against it. But it should not be more adertised than IRC. If you put it somewhere in the navigation bar (instead of only putting it in the FAQ) you should also put IRC there (which atm i only possible to find in the FAQ or on the screen you get shown when banned). A bridge - which Subpyro mentioned - would be nice. I googled this and seems there exists software for that. But probably a bit harder to manage kicks/bans if you wanted to kick/ban someone on one of both you could do it at the place where he is logged in - but could not do it from the other place (there you could only ban the bridge client that relays the messages). I guess if moderators were online on both at the same time it would not be a problem. |
| I was actually wondering if mods were actually going to comment about this. But it seems like you guys have. I don't see why we have to have an 'official' Discord server. I mean it seems to me like there's two people? who have already considered just starting a MAL server. From my few months on just one server, and foray's into three others, it's a much better alternative to Skype. I can't say much about IRC since I never touched one. But I think the selling point should be that Discord can be installed on Android. So you can literally take it with you where ever you go. No need to sit down at a laptop. You have a MAL server and then you have [insert whatever mobile MAL updating app you have here] and I think it's a very nice alternative to having to constantly log into MAL to talk or ask for recommendations or something. Not to mention I'm not sure how many people are strictly mobile. I have been off and on with that for the last few years. |
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sarroush said: any news on this?We had a short discussion about this a while back with the forum moderators throwing out ideas here and there and seeing how it could work with IRC still being a thing. I do believe discord would get more traction and people would be more inclined to use it. The customization for it is also much easier than IRC and it just looks better overall. At the moment, it's still very much up in the air, but I'll bring up the topic again and see if anything new comes to the table in that regard. |
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| I would very much like this. My friends and I have been using it for quite some time now (late 2015 maybe), and I must say that it's a wonderful app. |
| People who put MAL stats in their sigs are losers lol |
| The IRC is hardly advertised. I can't even find the link to it on the navbar. A discord would attract a lot more people I imagine. What kind of channels would you like to see? Just keep it simple or are there certain forum boards/topics you want in there too? like #recs, #techtalk, #csshelp, #music, etc. |
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Tensho said: The IRC is hardly advertised. I can't even find the link to it on the navbar. A discord would attract a lot more people I imagine. What kind of channels would you like to see? Just keep it simple or are there certain forum boards/topics you want in there too? like #recs, #techtalk, #csshelp, #music, etc. some dedicated manga and anime channels, including a channel for reccomandations and airing anime discussions. also gaming and off-topic channels are usually nice. Perhaps a spoiler channel, in wich spoilers are allowed (and disallowed on all other channels) |
| I would definitely love an official mal discord server. My only concern for it would be how to moderate it :S There will be loads of trolls/spammers. |
| The only immediate solution I can think of is get anti-spamming bots which allow xx messages after yy seconds. It makes sense and people like to put up coherent pieces if given some time before they press the big and tempting enter key. Also assign roles to people. The mods can take their supreme position and hire some underlings. Discord does provide a nice hierarchical system to keep petty people in check. If I am not mistaken you can also control whether to allow users to allow post images or not. This'll also keep the memes to a minimum. |
| I don't know why people write that they are approachable persons, if you were you wouldn't be on MAL. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Extended families or lovers on MAL are a farce. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Iizbakaokay said: The only immediate solution I can think of is get anti-spamming bots which allow xx messages after yy seconds. It makes sense and people like to put up coherent pieces if given some time before they press the big and tempting enter key. Also assign roles to people. The mods can take their supreme position and hire some underlings. Discord does provide a nice hierarchical system to keep petty people in check. If I am not mistaken you can also control whether to allow users to allow post images or not. This'll also keep the memes to a minimum. I have my own server for my MAL club with like 150+ peeps, so I know most of the things about a community server. I suppose we could make a 'mod' role for active people who are trustworthy who can kick/ban people to prevent trolls/spammers. Maybe the hierarchy could look something like this: - DB Admins - MAL Mods - Discord mods - Users |
Ardanaz said: Seems pretty logical to me. Do keep in mind the other things I mentioned like having a cooldown after every message if it becomes really bad. Text spamming is common as well. Well, you could add those features and rules anytime after launching the server.Iizbakaokay said: The only immediate solution I can think of is get anti-spamming bots which allow xx messages after yy seconds. It makes sense and people like to put up coherent pieces if given some time before they press the big and tempting enter key. Also assign roles to people. The mods can take their supreme position and hire some underlings. Discord does provide a nice hierarchical system to keep petty people in check. If I am not mistaken you can also control whether to allow users to allow post images or not. This'll also keep the memes to a minimum. I have my own server for my MAL club with like 150+ peeps, so I know most of the things about a community server. I suppose we could make a 'mod' role for active people who are trustworthy who can kick/ban people to prevent trolls/spammers. Maybe the hierarchy could look something like this: - DB Admins - MAL Mods - Discord mods - Users |
| I don't know why people write that they are approachable persons, if you were you wouldn't be on MAL. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Extended families or lovers on MAL are a farce. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Tensho said: The IRC is hardly advertised. I can't even find the link to it on the navbar. A discord would attract a lot more people I imagine. What kind of channels would you like to see? Just keep it simple or are there certain forum boards/topics you want in there too? like #recs, #techtalk, #csshelp, #music, etc. I would guess channels like Anime discussion seasonal anime gaming politics sports general discussion I think stuff like that could work. Sorry I just jumped into this thread by replying to your post but to add to this thread I would love the idea of a discord server. |
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| Some tips for dealing with trolls: - Verification Level: High (verified email) - 'Guest' Role: can't upload pictures, no embed links, no voice chat. It'd be nice to have a Bot to delete messages with links, too. The Guests would need to introduce themselves (maybe post a link to their MAL profile?), and the mods would give permissions (a basic role). |
Ardanaz said: Maybe the hierarchy could look something like this: - DB Admins - MAL Mods - Discord mods - Users I don't know if Kineta or Luna have given any input on the Discord idea as a whole behind the scenes, but I believe that if it would be set up, it would act the way IRC currently does; that includes requesting of help and assistance. Keeping that in mind, at least forum moderators would have to be a separate rank to put on the top of the online list, potentially only behind the administrators. That is because they are the most contacted members on the IRC for staff-related issues, mainly due to bans, their duration and reasoning. Organization and accessibility is of essence, especially when someone might be freaking out and requires help or information as soon as possible. |
Subpyro said: I don't know if Kineta or Luna have given any input on the Discord idea as a whole behind the scenes, but I believe that if it would be set up, it would act the way IRC currently does; that includes requesting of help and assistance. Keeping that in mind, at least forum moderators would have to be a separate rank to put on the top of the online list, potentially only behind the administrators. That is because they are the most contacted members on the IRC for staff-related issues, mainly due to bans, their duration and reasoning. Organization and accessibility is of essence, especially when someone might be freaking out and requires help or information as soon as possible. Like sarroush said, we have discussed it before. It would be a nice replacement, but it has some negatives too. Also I use Discord to chat with friends and my gf, so I'd get spammed with people requesting ban help while I'm traveling or something :( I could deal with that though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Would like it a lot if we used discord instead of irc. |
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