LoneWolf said: AltoRoark99 said: You're assuming all yaoi is pornographic. We're mainly talking about innocent boys' romance stories. Well if you're gonna go with that, I guess the only yaoi, I've enjoyed is MW, but that was written by the god of manga himself. I tend to dislike romance in general, I don't see how making it a romance with two dudes suddenly makes it better. I don't mind if there is yaoi or gay stuff somewhere in the story or some characters happen to be gay. I watch a lot of T.V series (Spartacus, Game of Thrones, American Horror Story) where they have implied gay sex and I don't care, cause it's not the main focus and its' not what I'm watching those shows for. Why would I go out of my way to watch/read a story that focuses on something I don't care about? Same-sex romance can do things that straight romances cannot. For example, they can touch upon how society views homosexuals, and how the two main lovers overcome this struggle. I'm not a yaoi reader, but that's what many yuri stories I've seen tend to do. aidafairbairn said: No they can't. If a "straight" guy says he likes yaoi, he's not entirely straight. He must be at least bisexual. Why would a straight guy like to see two men making out? Same reason why I wouldn't watch yuri. I'm simply not interested. Can they watch yaoi? Of course they can. But between 'watching' and 'liking' there's a damn huge distance. It's not always because they like to see two dudes making out. Some read/watch it for the story alone. Not all yaoi and yuri is pornographic. |
| I don't see why not.. Lots of straight girls like yuri |
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| Nope. You can not be straight and like male homosexual anime. Many straight guys are turned on be lesbians so straight guys can like lesbian anime. |
ezikialrage said: Nope. You can not be straight and like male homosexual anime. Many straight guys are turned on be lesbians so straight guys can like lesbian anime. Since when was it about getting turned on by it? You know that not all yaoi and yuri is pornographic, right? |
| I am straight and like yuri. (same goes for yaoi though) |
| am straight male am watch/read yaoi |
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| Well technically a lot of the guys in yaoi look like girls except with dicks anyways, so why not? I can't really speak for straight people myself because I really don't have a gender preference. If I see a well written love story, despite the genders involved, I'll watch it. I'm sure it's like that for a lot of straight people as well. I'm also sure there are a fair amount of guys who don't realize that they're bisexual or gay who watch yaoi. Not everybody goes through life knowing all along that they are actually attracted to the same gender. |
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| Thought Banana Fish was good . . . And that had some Yaoi undertones in it. Would say it is possible for a straight man to like Yaoi, however doubt it isn't extremely rare that a straight man prefers yaoi over heterosexual romance, I am guessing it is just in rare cases you will get a guy who says something along the lines of "I don't mind Yaoi". I really can't imagine someone being straight and "preferring" yaoi though, it makes me question why they prefer it and the only answers I can come up with are not leading me to believe they are straight. Also would like to mention that from what I have seen, Yaoi seems to be very similar in style to Smut series . . . So unless they somehow are very similar in title / art / themes / etc., but written much better, I highly doubt people go to Yaoi and think "Damn, the plot in these is so much better than in other sub-genres". In other words, even if someone was straight but had no preference over whether the couple was a girl and a boy or two dudes, I am going to guess they will still prefer the girl and a guy because the quality of the works is on a different level. Not too bash on yaoi, however asking for depth in characters / plot from a book about two homosexual males written by a female for females is asking for just a bit much. |
Pirating_NinjaJan 25, 2016 10:23 PM
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sensei said: My question is; can a guy be straight and like yaoi at the same time? Well, you could say the same thing about straight girls liking yuri. That entirely depends on what you mean by "like" If you can watch it without getting aroused, but simply like the plot, characters and romance. Then sure, why not. It just seems rare for any guy to be able to watch something romantic without getting aroused... But if you mean "like" as in you get aroused by it, then no. You are most likely homosexual, bi-sexual or at least bi-curious. |
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El_Psy said: sensei said: My question is; can a guy be straight and like yaoi at the same time? Well, you could say the same thing about straight girls liking yuri. That entirely depends on what you mean by "like" If you can watch it without getting aroused, but simply like the plot, characters and romance. Then sure, why not. It just seems rare for any guy to be able to watch something romantic without getting aroused... But if you mean "like" as in you get aroused by it, then no. You are most likely homosexual, bi-sexual or at least bi-curious. Actually I don't think getting aroused because something is "romantic" is a thing for most guys. You get aroused because there are sex scenes in it, not because it's romantic. And Yaoi/Shounen ai is all over the place on this. Some Yaoi Manga don't even give you a sex scene in the "real plot" but release an extra chapter, in some it's so short and non-explicit that you'd be hardpressed (hue hue) to get aroused at all. So I agree with you on the "like"-thing. If you just enjoy it for the romance storyline, sure, why not. If you get off on it, you're probably not totally straight. But really, it's not inconceivable that someone is turned on by something they see in fiction and not in reality. There's a huge incest/rape genre in Hentai. Doesn't mean people reading it want to bang their sisters. |
BVerfG said: El_Psy said: That entirely depends on what you mean by "like" If you can watch it without getting aroused, but simply like the plot, characters and romance. Then sure, why not. It just seems rare for any guy to be able to watch something romantic without getting aroused... But if you mean "like" as in you get aroused by it, then no. You are most likely homosexual, bi-sexual or at least bi-curious. Actually I don't think getting aroused because something is "romantic" is a thing for most guys. You get aroused because there are sex scenes in it, not because it's romantic. And Yaoi/Shounen ai is all over the place on this. Some Yaoi Manga don't even give you a sex scene in the "real plot" but release an extra chapter, in some it's so short and non-explicit that you'd be hardpressed (hue hue) to get aroused at all. So I agree with you on the "like"-thing. If you just enjoy it for the romance storyline, sure, why not. If you get off on it, you're probably not totally straight. But really, it's not inconceivable that someone is turned on by something they see in fiction and not in reality. There's a huge incest/rape genre in Hentai. Doesn't mean people reading it want to bang their sisters. Well played, Mortal. You indeed speak the words of truth. I didn't quite think it through when I said that thing about romantic and arousal bit. No, no, you are quite right. Yeah actually scratch the whole thing, I'm being stupid. Lets blame it on the caffeine withdrawal... that sounds reasonable. Lets just keep to the whole, definition of Like bit. |
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| You can be straight and still be aroused by yaoi. That's because you have to have an attraction to real males to be able to be told that you are either homosexual or bisexual. |
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| Sure they can. I see no issue with that. |
| If you like it, you're not straight. |
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| The medium is completely different to regular porn to the point where becoming aroused to watching it doesn't make you gay. You can be aroused to anime yaoi because it's completely different. There's also furry shows, and stuff like the Pico series. What does being aroused to an anime furry make you? Or intergalactic alien porn? This all stays purely in the realms of fantasy. |
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Dr_Mantis said: The medium is completely different to regular porn to the point where becoming aroused to watching it doesn't make you gay. You can be aroused to anime yaoi because it's completely different. There's also furry shows, and stuff like the Pico series. What does being aroused to an anime furry make you? Or intergalactic alien porn? This all stays purely in the realms of fantasy. Why there's so many of you who think Yaoi is only homosexual porn? Yaoi = romance between two males. Is not about being turned on, is about a straight guy liking a romance between two males. |
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| Because that's what the OP is implying, @badwolf45f. While yaoi can be about romantic relationships too, being homosexual is also being into romantic relationships with males, e.g. wanting to have one. If that's why you watch certain entertainment, then yes, you are homosexual. Not if you watch yaoi, that is. Because of what @Dr_Mantis said himself. Since "love" is associated with "sexual attraction" too. There are little to no "romantic" relationships that do not involve sex. |
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badwolf45f said: Yeah that's a fair point.Dr_Mantis said: The medium is completely different to regular porn to the point where becoming aroused to watching it doesn't make you gay. You can be aroused to anime yaoi because it's completely different. There's also furry shows, and stuff like the Pico series. What does being aroused to an anime furry make you? Or intergalactic alien porn? This all stays purely in the realms of fantasy. Why there's so many of you who think Yaoi is only homosexual porn? Yaoi = romance between two males. Is not about being turned on, is about a straight guy liking a romance between two males. But then why would any straight guy dislike yaoi romance? The conflicts would just be different degrees of homophobia really, so that would all just be irrational. What really puzzles people is why would straight people watch yaoi with sexual content. And I don't see why that's so puzzling. |
Trance said: I'm a guy and I can imagine buttfucking another guy. I don't find the thought repulsive, and I can even imagine kissing another man. |
| I've got no idea. I'm gay and I like yaoi, but that is logic. I also like hetero romance, so why wouldn't it be possible that someone that is straight likes yaoi? |
AltoRoark99 said: ezikialrage said: Nope. You can not be straight and like male homosexual anime. Many straight guys are turned on be lesbians so straight guys can like lesbian anime. Since when was it about getting turned on by it? You know that not all yaoi and yuri is pornographic, right? I am pretty sure that most homosexual and lesbian anime are not pornographic. It still does not change the fact why strait guys don't watch yaoi anime and would have no problem watching yuri anime. |
ezikialrage said: AltoRoark99 said: Since when was it about getting turned on by it? You know that not all yaoi and yuri is pornographic, right? I am pretty sure that most homosexual and lesbian anime are not pornographic. It still does not change the fact why strait guys don't watch yaoi anime and would have no problem watching yuri anime. There are plenty of straight guys that wouldn't mind watching/reading a yaoi just for the story. Just like how there are so many yuri fans that are female. |
AltoRoark99 said: ezikialrage said: I am pretty sure that most homosexual and lesbian anime are not pornographic. It still does not change the fact why strait guys don't watch yaoi anime and would have no problem watching yuri anime. There are plenty of straight guys that wouldn't mind watching/reading a yaoi just for the story. Just like how there are so many yuri fans that are female. Yeah ; I mean i don't consider Yuri relevant in this case since ''Straight'' guys don't even watch shojo most of the time on the first place. Guys in general don't watch Yaoi since it has Romance and it's homosexual. They could watch Yuri , but like hell they watch it for the ''plot'' , that's a lie. In fact , i would argue that most fans of both homo genres are actually FEMALE since while sometimes explicit , it contains lots of emotional stuff and has romantic themes , something that commonly females like. I don't know a single ''Yuri fan'' that's male and that actually respects the genre for what it is , instead of treating it like lame fanservice. Yaoi on the other hand , is in a much better position thanks to it's female supporters , and while some of them are pretty much dumb as hell only caring for the fanservice , most of them care about the plot setting and if a series is actually good they would watch it. In the end i see no problem with ''Straight'' guys liking Yaoi , considering that , you are who you are and nobody has the right to tell you ''you aren't straight'' just because you watch something they don't. It's really stupid , people who judge pretend they are that person , when they aren't. |
| I'll watch a yaoi if i stumble upon it and turns out to be good. And if theres a little yaoi in any anime, its not gonna inhibit my viewing experience but at the same time i'm not gonna go out of my way to find yaoi either. Its not my genre. I guess thats true for any genre |
ezikialrage said: You're generalizing.AltoRoark99 said: Since when was it about getting turned on by it? You know that not all yaoi and yuri is pornographic, right? I am pretty sure that most homosexual and lesbian anime are not pornographic. It still does not change the fact why strait guys don't watch yaoi anime and would have no problem watching yuri anime. "You can not be straight and like male homosexual anime." No, you can. Maybe it's more rare for het guys to like a BL series but it's possible. Panzertreee said: No, it doesn't. Are heterosexual romances catering to the sexual fantasies of heterosexual people? No.A straight man can't like or enjoy it because it serves a singular purpose. That purpose is catering to the sexual fantasies of the gay or bisexual. In the end, whoever believes that watching romance equals to being that specific sexual orientation are the people that watch romance just to self insert themselves and have fantasies with it. Not everyone watches it like that. Why would I, a cisgender heterosexual female, watch an anime about a transgender male-to-female character if I couldn't relate? Because I watch series to get enlightened, to see stories from other perspectives, to see conflicts and learn. |
| If it's shounen ai yes but if it's yaoi no, I would wonder why a guy would watch/read yaoi for the story when no one is forcing them to watch it lol, they can watch so many other anime for the story without the nice detailed fucking scenes. |
| The movie Titanic has a heterosexual sex scene, and boobs. Any gay guy who likes that movie is lying to himself and is actually straight. |
Red_KeysJan 26, 2016 4:55 PM
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| It takes a real man to accept Yaoi for what it is. |
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Red_Keys said: but the movie isn't revolved around that.The movie Titanic has a heterosexual sex scene, and boobs. Any gay guy who likes that movie is lying to himself and actually straight. |
Bambi said: You're right Titanic doesn't revolve around a romance lol silly meRed_Keys said: but the movie isn't revolved around that.The movie Titanic has a heterosexual sex scene, and boobs. Any gay guy who likes that movie is lying to himself and actually straight. |
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Red_Keys said: No, Titanic doesn't revolve around explicit sexual scenes like yaoi does.Bambi said: You're right Titanic doesn't revolve around a romance lol silly mebut the movie isn't revolved around that. |
| Lol give me a break. Most yaoi artists don't even know what a dick looks like, let alone competently draw an actual sex scene. Featuring something is not the same thing as "revolving around" something. |
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| One would beg that it's made to satisfy the sexual desires of gay men, so i highly doubt people would watch it for anything else but the sex scenes. It's like watching hentai for the plot, why would you do that lol? |
| i know of some yaoi that have the romance as a minimal subplot lol and don't have any sexual scenes other than a kiss or two hentai is a completely different thing compared to yaoi/yuri. hentai is literally "i will give u sex" |
| Then that wouldn't even be yaoi i'd be shounen ai which is different. The thing is, upon reading a yaoi you don't exactly know how many sex scenes will be in, you'd have to read it first, and just the concept alone of guys fucking is enough to scare straight guys away. |
| japanese people actually categorize all "homosexual series" as BL. there is no shounen-ai, yaoi distinction. idk why the west does it lol i'm saying i know yaoi manga on MAL tagged as "yaoi" which have no sex scenes at all lol shounen-ai anime such as sekaiichi hatsukoi has plenty of sex scenes, although they're censored. |
| It kind of makes sense to make a distinction between the two, considering not everyone gets off to seeing gay sex. Plenty of hentai scenes are censored too, I actually think there's less censoring in yaoi then there is hentai tbh, from experience reading. Plus, this question is more towards guys, a girl's and gay/bi guy's opinion, such as Red_Keys, is obviously going to be biased. |
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| I'm straight and I like Yuri. So yes...i would think a straight guy can like yaoi. |
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AltoRoark99 said: ezikialrage said: I am pretty sure that most homosexual and lesbian anime are not pornographic. It still does not change the fact why strait guys don't watch yaoi anime and would have no problem watching yuri anime. There are plenty of straight guys that wouldn't mind watching/reading a yaoi just for the story. Just like how there are so many yuri fans that are female. I completely agree with this. Most people can't wrap their head around that idea. |
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Bambi said: Once again, we are not talking about getting aroused by it. For the love of god people, not all yaoi and yuri is pornographic.Red_Keys said: No, Titanic doesn't revolve around explicit sexual scenes like yaoi does.You're right Titanic doesn't revolve around a romance lol silly me |
AltoRoarkJan 26, 2016 6:39 PM
AltoRoark99 said: I stated in one of my posts that shounen ai is ok.Bambi said: Once again, we are not talking about getting aroused by it. For the love of god people, not all yaoi and yuri is pornographic.No, Titanic doesn't revolve around explicit sexual scenes like yaoi does. |
Bambi said: I'm straight but I wouldn't mind reading a yuri series. If it's not tagged with hentai/ecchi, it's not going to be something that can make me uncomfortable. If it's hentai/ecchi, it'll be full on sex everywhere and fanservice shots. Otherwise, I don't mind seeing explicit sexual scenes if they help the storyline.It kind of makes sense to make a distinction between the two, considering not everyone gets off to seeing gay sex. Plenty of hentai scenes are censored too, I actually think there's less censoring in yaoi then there is hentai tbh, from experience reading. I'm sorry that other straight guys are uncomfortable with seeing gay people show affection towards each other. The point is: Yaoi/Yuri does not have to have ANY sexual scenes/fanservice and can still be tagged as one. |
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