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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Since no one was starting this thread, i decide to do so myself. The episode had a very interesting twist. |
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| Good episode. Nice to see that even Arthur has his weaknesses and is haunted by a trauma. Siege of avalon next should be fun to watch with Arawn and Arthur not being there to fight. |
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| *Facepalm* Was there anyone writing a script for this or they just randomized story elements together? Just when it was starting to get decent with the last ep. |
| I honestly liked this episode. Sure, it seemed a little sloppy at times, but it really kept my attention. Although... seriously. I understand he was going berserk and reliving a very traumatic event, but still. "I made a promise to avenge my dead father... therefore I'll fulfill it, even if I have to kill my sister!" ...yeah. That's awesome logic, Arthur. *coughs* But. Good episode overall, I thought. |
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| i was disappointed he didnt die |
Syllen said: i was disappointed he didnt die he is the demon king. they dont die that easily :P |
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rutix said: Syllen said: i was disappointed he didnt die he is the demon king. they dont die that easily :P Yeah, but without him dying, this whole scene is kind of pointless, especialy Arawn's line "you avanged your father" - how exactly, if he didn't die? And Arthur could simply throw his sister away and then stab defencless Arawn, without berserker's charge... And yeah, this whole thing came out of nowhere, too random for me, and Arawn didn't even try to explain the whole situation... |
| Really liked this episode... But i think they will do the cliffhanger with the dead of Arawn before we know he is not dead. x_x |
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| oAo Wow...psycho Arthur is psycho. |
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| they should have kept arawn's still being alive a secret..there was no point if he didn't die.. |
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| sooooooooooo. . . . . where was the point in any of that? "hey! let's go half way to the enemy base because i know immuh gonna get stabbed so's we can come all the way back!" |
| the masochist says "hurt me! hurt me!" the sadist replies "no" |
AceSoldia said: they should have kept arawn's still being alive a secret..there was no point if he didn't die.. I agree. That one line killed the whole episode. Would've made the plot better if Arawn just randomly appeared when they were in danger of dying or something like that. I felt some disappointment that Arthur didn't stab Riannon. That would have made it interesting in my opinion. |
| wat is what I'd want to say.. but since he's still alive, I won't : p edit: oh but wait.. I just did O.o |
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| They should have given Arthur a brain in this anime. He annoys me more each episode for his lack of common sense. Also, the dream Riannon had plus the line Arawn spoke about knowing what was going to happen. Was that what it was about? If so this series got lame fast. If the next episode is this bad I'm gonna drop this. BTW! The zombies were all identical and poorly drawn. |
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| Pretty bad episode. Once again we're totally disconnected from the previous episode's ending, and once again, we have Arthur's character development backsliding for the sake of the plot. With this event though, I can safely say that Arthur is worse off, and much more useless than before the show started, since he even seems to have bitched out and ran away. Worse off, he killed Arawn, but didn't. Even though he got impaled by a large sword, defenseless, Arawn is still alive, removing the point of Arthur's "justice." I'll also say that I'm disappointed that Arawn is the one who killed Arthur's dad. I figured he would have said something by now so I assumed it was some other person as yet to be mentioned. Oh well. At least that loose end is tied up. |
noteDhero said: I think Arthur was a pretty cool guy in the beginning, wasn't afraid of anything and killed stuff.. (yeah dunno how true that actually is, but anyway, for the sake of lol) now he's pretty much a wuss at best >.>Pretty bad episode. Once again we're totally disconnected from the previous episode's ending, and once again, we have Arthur's character development backsliding for the sake of the plot. With this event though, I can safely say that Arthur is worse off, and much more useless than before the show started, since he even seems to have bitched out and ran away. I'll also say that I'm disappointed that Arawn is the one who killed Arthur's dad. I figured he would have said something by now so I assumed it was some other person as yet to be mentioned. makes kinda no sense at all, why would Arawn kill his buddy Pwyll's decendant? 'cause I take it Pwyll and Arawn were buddys back then, and since Arthur's his decendant, then that kinda makes his father one too? |
OosranJul 18, 2009 12:25 PM
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| he said he was brainwashed or something |
| Man, Arthur is a jerk. I've tried to like him, but he continues to disappoint me. I agree that the impact is lessened by the fact that Arawn didn't die, but he's kinda the main character, and the series is barely past the halfway point. If he's gonna die, it'll be much later. And the scene still served to show the depth of Arthur's anger for his father's killer, he was so shaken up he didn't even think about Riannon. |
TKMalone said: Yup, stupid Arthur is really stupid, huh?Man, Arthur is a jerk. I've tried to like him, but he continues to disappoint me. I agree that the impact is lessened by the fact that Arawn didn't die, but he's kinda the main character, and the series is barely past the halfway point. If he's gonna die, it'll be much later. And the scene still served to show the depth of Arthur's anger for his father's killer, he was so shaken up he didn't even think about Riannon. |
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| This wasn't disconnected at all and neither the previews episodes, it's going pretty much what happened in the Visual Novel. |
| I confirm the word of Neji... I'm here in the game (after three days of game...) and Arthur is the same... |
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| o_o ... Arthur gone berserk x_x |
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orangehouse said: no he's just a jerk, don't pay him any mind and maybe he disappears? probably not but one could hope now, right?Dxo_o ... Arthur gone berserk x_x |
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Kvakond said: *Facepalm* Was there anyone writing a script for this or they just randomized story elements together? Just when it was starting to get decent with the last ep. Can't say better than that. The 14th episode was excellent, especially the direction and face expressions. This one was totally random scenaristically speaking. And more than a script and character elopment, I feel like these two elements are in a regressive curve in this 15th ep. Well, not a good one, let's see if the siege of Avalon will be more interesting. |
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noteDhero said: Pretty bad episode. Once again we're totally disconnected from the previous episode's ending, and once again, we have Arthur's character development backsliding for the sake of the plot. With this event though, I can safely say that Arthur is worse off, and much more useless than before the show started, since he even seems to have bitched out and ran away. Worse off, he killed Arawn, but didn't. Even though he got impaled by a large sword, defenseless, Arawn is still alive, removing the point of Arthur's "justice." I'll also say that I'm disappointed that Arawn is the one who killed Arthur's dad. I figured he would have said something by now so I assumed it was some other person as yet to be mentioned. Oh well. At least that loose end is tied up. I'm hopping there was a reason for Arawn killing him. But then again I have doubts that it was really him to begin with. The guy who killed Arthur's dad looks very different from the white Arawn we saw in this episode and the Arawn we see in every episode. @at everyone bitching about Arthur. What he did was understandable. If the killer of your dad was standing in front of you, don't tell me you would just shrug it off because the guys been nice to you. No, you would at least get angry and start beating the living shit out of him. We also have to take into consideration that Arthur was very young when he saw his dad get killed. That amplifys things a lot. As for the episode as a whole....it was random and felt waaaaay out of place. They leave the village because they want to light then unfinished castle walls on fire...stupid. The only thing that I can think of is that this was a setup to fool the enemy commander into thinking their weak now. If this isnt the case then the episode really is crap. |
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| Oh wow, nice episode. Amazing twist. Did not expect that. O; |
DeathfireD said: @at everyone bitching about Arthur. What he did was understandable. If the killer of your dad was standing in front of you, don't tell me you would just shrug it off because the guys been nice to you. No, you would at least get angry and start beating the living shit out of him. We also have to take into consideration that Arthur was very young when he saw his dad get killed. That amplifys things a lot. exactly the kind of thing i wanted to say. He isn't just being a dickhead, hes been wanting revenge most of his life. It isn't going to be like 'hey it's all good you killed my father' -_- The episode was average though. Most of it was pretty sloppy but i found the twist bit to be interesting. (Well i actually guessed that twist a few eps back even if it aint the exact 'truth') It is stupid that Arawn survived though like many said. It did ruin the impact of the scene. However i will agree with other people that he wouldn't die so easily. I actually thought he was gonna die and come back. But no way did i think he would die off for good. |
| I've had enough of this stupidity. |
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| Good except for Arthur being a baka. Forgot that Arawn was dead for the past 1,000 years memory lapse? |
| Sore wa himitsu desu. |
| the "hell" cauldron, huh? sounds a lot like the black cauldron to me, but hey i think they're basing it off the same mythology; and arawn just pwned those undead guys, but at what cost? |
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velcom said: DeathfireD said: @at everyone bitching about Arthur. What he did was understandable. If the killer of your dad was standing in front of you, don't tell me you would just shrug it off because the guys been nice to you. No, you would at least get angry and start beating the living shit out of him. We also have to take into consideration that Arthur was very young when he saw his dad get killed. That amplifys things a lot. exactly the kind of thing i wanted to say. He isn't just being a dickhead, hes been wanting revenge most of his life. It isn't going to be like 'hey it's all good you killed my father' -_- The episode was average though. Most of it was pretty sloppy but i found the twist bit to be interesting. (Well i actually guessed that twist a few eps back even if it aint the exact 'truth') It is stupid that Arawn survived though like many said. It did ruin the impact of the scene. However i will agree with other people that he wouldn't die so easily. I actually thought he was gonna die and come back. But no way did i think he would die off for good. For those of you who didnt notice Arwan was dead for the past 1000 years, how the heck can he kill Arthur's father? As to why he didn't die: |
| Arthur's reaction to the whole situation is understandable. He father was killed in front of him, when he was a small child. Arawn also egged him on, by telling him to come and try to avenge his father. What I don't understand is, why did he killed Arthur's father? He doesn't seem like a bad guy. In fact it's out of his character to be so evil. |
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| Just I said earlier, Arthur is a total dumbass. Evilincarnate said: velcom said: DeathfireD said: @at everyone bitching about Arthur. What he did was understandable. If the killer of your dad was standing in front of you, don't tell me you would just shrug it off because the guys been nice to you. No, you would at least get angry and start beating the living shit out of him. We also have to take into consideration that Arthur was very young when he saw his dad get killed. That amplifys things a lot. exactly the kind of thing i wanted to say. He isn't just being a dickhead, hes been wanting revenge most of his life. It isn't going to be like 'hey it's all good you killed my father' -_- The episode was average though. Most of it was pretty sloppy but i found the twist bit to be interesting. (Well i actually guessed that twist a few eps back even if it aint the exact 'truth') It is stupid that Arawn survived though like many said. It did ruin the impact of the scene. However i will agree with other people that he wouldn't die so easily. I actually thought he was gonna die and come back. But no way did i think he would die off for good. For those of you who didnt notice Arwan was dead for the past 1000 years, how the heck can he kill Arthur's father? As to why he didn't die: |
| Sore wa himitsu desu. |
| Did you watch the earlier eps at all??? tttm said: Arthur's reaction to the whole situation is understandable. He father was killed in front of him, when he was a small child. Arawn also egged him on, by telling him to come and try to avenge his father. What I don't understand is, why did he killed Arthur's father? He doesn't seem like a bad guy. In fact it's out of his character to be so evil. |
| Sore wa himitsu desu. |
| Very good episode, don't blame Arthur he live with hatred and wants revenge for his father thats all.. |
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zinvince said: Very good episode, don't blame Arthur he live with hatred and wants revenge for his father thats all.. i agree lol i think id wanna kill anyone who killed my dad and i dont think anything would stop me not even if arawn was a good guy . which on that note i hate arawn with passion. i hate hime more than ichigo ...that says something. |
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bubbleboy352 said: sooooooooooo. . . . . where was the point in any of that? "hey! let's go half way to the enemy base because i know immuh gonna get stabbed so's we can come all the way back!" I agree with this. Really what's the point? And why didn't he let the magisian to that fire spell? So what if it takes some time before he does it again? It's better than the shit that happened. |
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| Main point of the episode -Authur is a faking retard. |
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| yea i kinda agree with som of you, it would have been a nice shock to see that he was alive in the NEXT episode. so i guess arthur "avenged" his dad, but forget about the fact that he has more lives than that. |
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| Well Arthur sure had reason to kill him...instead of calling Arthur the idiot, Riannon deserves that title. Again she's show an inability to think for himself, now has fallen in love with her dad's killer, and would rather have Arthur kill her than let Arawn die. She continues to defy all reason and logic. But now do we not only have a continuity issue, but why the heck would arawn kill their father. And if Arawn does die then there goes the only interesting character. |
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WolfWood37 said: Well Arthur sure had reason to kill him...instead of calling Arthur the idiot, Riannon deserves that title. Again she's show an inability to think for himself, now has fallen in love with her dad's killer, and would rather have Arthur kill her than let Arawn die. She continues to defy all reason and logic. But now do we not only have a continuity issue, but why the heck would arawn kill their father what part of Arawn's been sleep for 1000years dont u retards get how the hell could he be the killer :/ plus the voice was different wth is wrong with u ppl Once again we have another idiot that wasnt payin attention to the anime, How bout u pay more attention to the story b4 u bash someone thats tryin to defend someone thats perfectly innocent ( callling it the inability to think for herself ). I lawl at the ppl that say what arthur did is understandable so ya basically u saying its understandable that u would want to kill ur own sister just to get revenge ya ok gg there buddy |
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| They left out a couple of sequences from the game which made it clear that Arthur's father was killed by a white angel and that he had sworn revenge and hated the white angels. His reaction to the mural in Arawn's tomb was part of that foreshadowing. As to jumping to conclusions, some folks are as quick to do so as Arthur (and there is a good reason why Arthur is not going to be the one leading the tribe--he's just too hotheaded). There is no doubt that a white angel killed his father, but why would he make sure to leave Arthur alive and tell him very plainly "Hey, I'm Arawn. Remember me, and the next time you see me take revenge for your father!" Ogam, Arawn, and the elves aren't the only ones who can interpret prophecies or take action based on them. Why didn't Arawn fight? Well aside from being pretty weak from the cleansing, he also has been feeling overwhelming guilt this whole time for some things from his past that have yet to be revealed. With Arthur absent, and Arawn on death's door, who will step up to lead the fight against Gaius? Watch next episode to find out. |
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