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Mar 22, 2009 8:45 PM

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Legend said:
did somone say AMERICA!


Oh look, another superhero in spandex.

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Like it's even natural for a guy to have that much muscle. Freaking gross.



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Ontario said:
Welcome to the NHK helped hikikomori's to seek help and become normal people.

So there.

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Mar 22, 2009 8:47 PM

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SY said:
You are so unbelievably wrong about American comics.

MAINSTREAM AMERICAN COMICS ARE ALL ABOUT SUPERHEROES IN SPANDEX WITH SOME SILLY SECRET IDENTITY. EITHER THAT OR THEY'RE SUNDAY COMICS COMEDY SHORTS.

PROVE ME WRONG.

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Mar 22, 2009 8:48 PM

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ukonkivi said:
SY said:
You are so unbelievably wrong about American comics.

MAINSTREAM AMERICAN COMICS ARE ALL ABOUT SUPERHEROES IN SPANDEX WITH SOME SILLY SECRET IDENTITY. EITHER THAT OR THEY'RE SUNDAY COMICS COMEDY SHORTS.

PROVE ME WRONG.

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Mar 22, 2009 8:49 PM

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ukonkivi said:
SY said:
You are so unbelievably wrong about American comics.

MAINSTREAM AMERICAN COMICS ARE ALL ABOUT SUPERHEROES IN SPANDEX WITH SOME SILLY SECRET IDENTITY. EITHER THAT OR THEY'RE SUNDAY COMICS COMEDY SHORTS.

PROVE ME WRONG.


Mar 22, 2009 8:50 PM

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You lose.

WHO THE HECK ARE THEY? THEY DON'T SEEM VERY MAINSTREAM TO ME.

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lol, is that Silver Surfer? Nice job proving me RIGHT.
Stereoypical American superhero bullshit is stereotypical.

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Mar 22, 2009 8:52 PM

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ukonkivi said:
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You lose.

WHO THE HECK ARE THEY? THEY DON'T SEEM VERY MAINSTREAM TO ME.

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lol, is that Silver Surfer? Nice job proving me RIGHT.


silence ignorant one

Mar 22, 2009 8:52 PM

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ukonkivi said:
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You lose.

WHO THE HECK ARE THEY? THEY DON'T SEEM VERY MAINSTREAM TO ME.

ukonkivi... as a troll. Never thought I'd see the day.
Mar 22, 2009 8:53 PM

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Legend said:

Nice stereotypical spandex outfit.

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Mar 22, 2009 8:54 PM

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ukonkivi said:
Legend said:

Nice stereotypical spandex outfit.


you seem to be missing the bigger picture. then again small minds tend to
Mar 22, 2009 8:55 PM

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You seem to lack any good details to your point and remain saying the same pointless bullshit.

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Mar 22, 2009 8:55 PM

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Um. So really. Are there any non-super hero, non sunday-strip western comics?
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ukonkivi said:
You seem to lack any good details to your point and remain saying the same pointless bullshit.
You're one to talk.
Mar 22, 2009 8:56 PM

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watching cartoons makes you cool
Mar 22, 2009 8:56 PM

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naikou said:
Um. So really. Are there any non-super hero, non sunday-strip western comics?

Yes. But when they do, they are called Alternative comics.

Because that just mentioned is the mainstream.

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Vagabond said:
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Vagabond said:
My avatar and signature...

You lose.

WHO THE HECK ARE THEY? THEY DON'T SEEM VERY MAINSTREAM TO ME.

ukonkivi... as a troll. Never thought I'd see the day.

A pretty shitty one at it too, may I add.

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Ontario said:
Welcome to the NHK helped hikikomori's to seek help and become normal people.

So there.


No, there is.
She just comes in a different form.

Mar 22, 2009 8:57 PM

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AND WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY SPANDEX!!


Mar 22, 2009 8:58 PM

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ZoiQ said:
watching cartoons makes you cool
Mar 22, 2009 8:59 PM

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Vagabond said:
You're one to talk.

Uh, no. At least I'm making the effort of the distinction between alt-comics and mainstream American an so forth.

All you're giving me is a bunch of "LOL NO".
And it is up to you to give examples. And explain.
LOL LOOK AT MY AVATAR isn't enough.

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ZoiQ said:
ZoiQ said:
watching cartoons makes you cool
Mar 22, 2009 9:01 PM

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Vagabond said:
ukonkivi... as a troll. Never thought I'd see the day.

You're just not cool enough for all caps.

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Mar 22, 2009 9:01 PM

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ZoiQ said:
ZoiQ said:
ZoiQ said:
watching cartoons makes you cool
Mar 22, 2009 9:02 PM

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inb4 spam
Mar 22, 2009 9:03 PM

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Look up Kabuki by David Mack. It can appeal to any anime fan/weeaboo/whatever. It's published by Marvel.
Mar 22, 2009 9:03 PM

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ukonkivi said:
Vagabond said:
You're one to talk.

Uh, no. At least I'm making the effort of the distinction between alt-comics and mainstream American an so forth.

All you're giving me is a bunch of "LOL NO".
And it is up to you to give examples. And explain.
LOL LOOK AT MY AVATAR isn't enough.




Mar 22, 2009 9:05 PM

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shinkeikaku said:
Look up Kabuki by David Mack. It can appeal to any anime fan/weeaboo/whatever. It's published by Marvel.

How mainstream? How common?

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Mar 22, 2009 9:05 PM

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I find it amusing this entire argument stemmed from this:

(It was actually a misquote if you read it in context, scroll below.)

You guys need to stop turning everything into a western comic hatefest. We all know how bad they are. Anime is like no other medium of communication, and as such there is no need to compare it to what we know to be far inferior forms of communication.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=74173&show=60#msg2845897

Having to constantly hate on western comics only suggests a lack of confidence in the superiority in anime, and we know that's not true! And that only means one thing - you are ignorant of anime!
Mar 22, 2009 9:07 PM

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ukonkivi said:
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Look up Kabuki by David Mack. It can appeal to any anime fan/weeaboo/whatever. It's published by Marvel.

How mainstream? How common?
So, because something isn't mainstream means it's not western media? What the fuck are you even trying to argue? The most mainstream anime in Japan mostly all sucks as much as mainstream media in America mostly all does.
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ukonkivi said:
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Look up Kabuki by David Mack. It can appeal to any anime fan/weeaboo/whatever. It's published by Marvel.

How mainstream? How common?

I don't know. I don't follow the market. People know of it. A friend loaned me the books. Anyway, it's beautiful.
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tr1ggers4d said:
I find it amusing this entire argument stemmed from this:

(It was actually a misquote if you read it in context, scroll below.)

You guys need to stop turning everything into a western comic hatefest. We all know how bad they are. Anime is like no other medium of communication, and as such there is no need to compare it to what we know to be far inferior forms of communication.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=74173&show=60#msg2845897

Having to constantly hate on western comics only suggests a lack of confidence in the superiority in anime, and we know that's not true! And that only means one thing - you are ignorant of anime!


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Vagabond said:
ukonkivi said:
shinkeikaku said:
Look up Kabuki by David Mack. It can appeal to any anime fan/weeaboo/whatever. It's published by Marvel.

How mainstream? How common?
So, because something isn't mainstream means it's not western media? What the fuck are you even trying to argue?

This:
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tr1ggers4d said:
Watching anime would be comparable to listening to a mashup of avril lavigne, miley cyrus and tay zonday while sniffing cocaine off billy may's newest toilet seat and having an orgasm with edward from twilight.

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Vagabond said:
So, because something isn't mainstream means it's not western media

Way to either completely miss or ignore my whole point about alt-comics.
I'm going with ignore since I said it several times.

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Mar 22, 2009 9:08 PM

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ukonkivi said:
Vagabond said:
So, because something isn't mainstream means it's not western media

Way to either completely miss or ignore my whole point about alt-comics.
I'm going with ignore since I said it several times.

Way to ignore the whole argument I've been giving since I entered this thread.
Mar 22, 2009 9:09 PM

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ukonkivi said:
Vagabond said:
So, because something isn't mainstream means it's not western media

Way to either completely miss or ignore my whole point about alt-comics.
I'm going with ignore since I said it several times.

YEAH
THAT'S HOW TRUE ANIME FANS ROLL

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Having to constantly hate on western comics only suggests a lack of confidence in the superiority in anime, and we know that's not true! And that only means one thing - you are ignorant of anime!
Mar 22, 2009 9:12 PM

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I don't see how a knowledge of every post in this thread is necessary for what our conversation developed into.

You said there was stereotyping about Western comics.
I said, "well, but there is a large one size fits all sort of thing going on in mainstream American comics" several times.
Then you went on a bunch about "LOL NO" without any sourcing.
Then I restated by point about mainstream and averages.
And then you went off saying "lol what's mainstream have to do with anything".

It's all about averages. I'm not saying alt-comics don't exist, my point has been that they are alt-comics. And that, on average, American comics have less variety, especially within the mainstream, than Japanese comics.

That has been my argument.

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Mar 22, 2009 9:16 PM

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tr1ggers4d said:
I find it amusing this entire argument stemmed from this:

(It was actually a misquote if you read it in context, scroll below.)
You can't be anymore wrong than that. This whole thing was started because SY made this thread, but the problem can be traced back even further to her parents giving birth to her, which can be traced back even further to Adam and Eve eating that forbidden fruit, which can, again, be traced back further to when God created them. It's God's fault that everyone here is arguing, so blame him.
Mar 22, 2009 9:16 PM

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BlueYoshi said:
ZoiQ said:
ZoiQ said:
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watching cartoons makes you cool


It totally does. I'm thinking of moving to Japan and learning their language, simply because I like watching their cartoons.

That's how cool I am.
Mar 22, 2009 9:20 PM

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ukonkivi said:
I don't see how a knowledge of every post in this thread is necessary for what our conversation developed into.

You said there was stereotyping about Western comics.
I said, "well, but there is a large one size fits all sort of thing going on in mainstream American comics" several times.
Then you went on a bunch about "LOL NO" without any sourcing.
Then I restated by point about mainstream and averages.
And then you went off saying "lol what's mainstream have to do with anything".

It's all about averages. I'm not saying alt-comics don't exist, my point has been that they are alt-comics. And that, on average, American comics have less variety, especially within the mainstream, than Japanese comics.

That has been my argument.

Dude.
You only had to mention one thing to prove your argument.
http://myanimelist.net/anime/4714/The_Rapeman
Not only does it fucking pwn every single western comic in exsitence, it has much more variety and fucking hardcore shit.
Also related: HOT NEW GUIDE TO DESIGNING YOUR OWN ANIME. JUST INCLUDE (tentacles, school girls, douchebags, douches, shitty romance, giant eyes, flat chest, CLICHE LINEAR PLOT, etc)
Mar 22, 2009 9:22 PM

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tr1ggers4d said:
ukonkivi said:
I don't see how a knowledge of every post in this thread is necessary for what our conversation developed into.

You said there was stereotyping about Western comics.
I said, "well, but there is a large one size fits all sort of thing going on in mainstream American comics" several times.
Then you went on a bunch about "LOL NO" without any sourcing.
Then I restated by point about mainstream and averages.
And then you went off saying "lol what's mainstream have to do with anything".

It's all about averages. I'm not saying alt-comics don't exist, my point has been that they are alt-comics. And that, on average, American comics have less variety, especially within the mainstream, than Japanese comics.

That has been my argument.

Dude.
You only had to mention one thing to prove your argument.
http://myanimelist.net/anime/4714/The_Rapeman
Not only does it fucking pwn every single western comic in exsitence, it has much more variety and fucking hardcore shit.
Also related: HOT NEW GUIDE TO DESIGNING YOUR OWN ANIME. JUST INCLUDE (tentacles, school girls, douchebags, douches, shitty romance, giant eyes, flat chest, CLICHE LINEAR PLOT, etc)


So, a harem but with tentacles?
Mar 22, 2009 9:22 PM

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BlueYoshi said:
tr1ggers4d said:
ukonkivi said:
I don't see how a knowledge of every post in this thread is necessary for what our conversation developed into.

You said there was stereotyping about Western comics.
I said, "well, but there is a large one size fits all sort of thing going on in mainstream American comics" several times.
Then you went on a bunch about "LOL NO" without any sourcing.
Then I restated by point about mainstream and averages.
And then you went off saying "lol what's mainstream have to do with anything".

It's all about averages. I'm not saying alt-comics don't exist, my point has been that they are alt-comics. And that, on average, American comics have less variety, especially within the mainstream, than Japanese comics.

That has been my argument.

Dude.
You only had to mention one thing to prove your argument.
http://myanimelist.net/anime/4714/The_Rapeman
Not only does it fucking pwn every single western comic in exsitence, it has much more variety and fucking hardcore shit.
Also related: HOT NEW GUIDE TO DESIGNING YOUR OWN ANIME. JUST INCLUDE (tentacles, school girls, douchebags, douches, shitty romance, giant eyes, flat chest, CLICHE LINEAR PLOT, etc)


So, a harem but with tentacles?

sure, why not!
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OH YEAH! MAINSTREAM JAPANESE COMICS ARE SO LIFE CHANGING AWESOME.

There is NO superhero aspect at all, ever.

No way is there some lame-ass character that one day realizes "OH SHIT, I HAVE AWESOME POWER/HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE BEST" and then they STRUGGLE for as LONG AS POSSIBLE to make the series SUPERIOR.. and then they KICK ASS AT THE END.. if it ever ends... IT is ESPECIALLY good when the main character is also 12.

Yeah, okay?

And what DOES "mainstream" have to do with anything. DID YOU KNOW, IN JAPAN, MOST MANGA ISN'T MAINSTREAM. NOT EVERYONE READS MANGA LIKE YOU WEABOOS DO.

?_?

Unthinkable, right?
Mar 22, 2009 9:27 PM

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SY said:
OH YEAH! MAINSTREAM JAPANESE COMICS ARE SO LIFE CHANGING AWESOME.

There is NO superhero aspect at all, ever.

No way is there some lame-ass character that one day realizes "OH SHIT, I HAVE AWESOME POWER/HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE BEST" and then they STRUGGLE for as LONG AS POSSIBLE to make the series SUPERIOR.. and then they KICK ASS AT THE END.. if it ever ends... IT is ESPECIALLY good when the main character is also 12.

Yeah, okay?

And what DOES "mainstream" have to do with anything. DID YOU KNOW, IN JAPAN, MOST MANGA ISN'T MAINSTREAM. NOT EVERYONE READS MANGA LIKE YOU WEABOOS DO.

?_?

Unthinkable, right?


YOU'RE JUST IGNORANT.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=74173&show=60#msg2845897
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SY said:
OH YEAH! MAINSTREAM JAPANESE COMICS ARE SO LIFE CHANGING AWESOME.

There is NO superhero aspect at all, ever.

No way is there some lame-ass character that one day realizes "OH SHIT, I HAVE AWESOME POWER/HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE BEST" and then they STRUGGLE for as LONG AS POSSIBLE to make the series SUPERIOR.. and then they KICK ASS AT THE END.. if it ever ends... IT is ESPECIALLY good when the main character is also 12.

Yeah, okay?

And what DOES "mainstream" have to do with anything. DID YOU KNOW, IN JAPAN, MOST MANGA ISN'T MAINSTREAM. NOT EVERYONE READS MANGA LIKE YOU WEABOOS DO.

?_?

Unthinkable, right?


YOU'RE JUST IGNORANT.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=74173&show=60#msg2845897


But I have met real Japanese people before.

?___?

Unthinkable, right? REAL JAPANESE PEOPLE.
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SY said:
tr1ggers4d said:
SY said:
OH YEAH! MAINSTREAM JAPANESE COMICS ARE SO LIFE CHANGING AWESOME.

There is NO superhero aspect at all, ever.

No way is there some lame-ass character that one day realizes "OH SHIT, I HAVE AWESOME POWER/HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE BEST" and then they STRUGGLE for as LONG AS POSSIBLE to make the series SUPERIOR.. and then they KICK ASS AT THE END.. if it ever ends... IT is ESPECIALLY good when the main character is also 12.

Yeah, okay?

And what DOES "mainstream" have to do with anything. DID YOU KNOW, IN JAPAN, MOST MANGA ISN'T MAINSTREAM. NOT EVERYONE READS MANGA LIKE YOU WEABOOS DO.

?_?

Unthinkable, right?


YOU'RE JUST IGNORANT.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=74173&show=60#msg2845897


But I have met real Japanese people before.

?___?

Unthinkable, right? REAL JAPANESE PEOPLE.

I have too.
They all told me you're just ignorant, since you know like, they have hivemind.
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SY said:
tr1ggers4d said:
SY said:
OH YEAH! MAINSTREAM JAPANESE COMICS ARE SO LIFE CHANGING AWESOME.

There is NO superhero aspect at all, ever.

No way is there some lame-ass character that one day realizes "OH SHIT, I HAVE AWESOME POWER/HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE BEST" and then they STRUGGLE for as LONG AS POSSIBLE to make the series SUPERIOR.. and then they KICK ASS AT THE END.. if it ever ends... IT is ESPECIALLY good when the main character is also 12.

Yeah, okay?

And what DOES "mainstream" have to do with anything. DID YOU KNOW, IN JAPAN, MOST MANGA ISN'T MAINSTREAM. NOT EVERYONE READS MANGA LIKE YOU WEABOOS DO.

?_?

Unthinkable, right?


YOU'RE JUST IGNORANT.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=74173&show=60#msg2845897


But I have met real Japanese people before.

?___?

Unthinkable, right? REAL JAPANESE PEOPLE.
Met one in middle school. His friend was pissing me off, so I punched him in the face and they both qq'd to some teacher and got me expelled.
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tr1ggers4d said:
They all told me you're just ignorant, since you know like, they have hivemind.
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llxwarbirdxll said:
SY said:
tr1ggers4d said:
SY said:
OH YEAH! MAINSTREAM JAPANESE COMICS ARE SO LIFE CHANGING AWESOME.

There is NO superhero aspect at all, ever.

No way is there some lame-ass character that one day realizes "OH SHIT, I HAVE AWESOME POWER/HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE THE BEST" and then they STRUGGLE for as LONG AS POSSIBLE to make the series SUPERIOR.. and then they KICK ASS AT THE END.. if it ever ends... IT is ESPECIALLY good when the main character is also 12.

Yeah, okay?

And what DOES "mainstream" have to do with anything. DID YOU KNOW, IN JAPAN, MOST MANGA ISN'T MAINSTREAM. NOT EVERYONE READS MANGA LIKE YOU WEABOOS DO.

?_?

Unthinkable, right?


YOU'RE JUST IGNORANT.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=74173&show=60#msg2845897


But I have met real Japanese people before.

?___?

Unthinkable, right? REAL JAPANESE PEOPLE.
Met one in middle school. His friend was pissing me off, so I punched him in the face and they both qq'd to some teacher and got me expelled.


my best friend at school was japanese his name was hoshi or kenji i cant remember japanese names all sound the same to me

he was the one who told me what a hikikomori was i kept saying it hikomori he was a genius and painted stuff like this

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They all told me you're just ignorant, since you know like, they have hivemind.
It's funny because tr1ggers4d is making a reference to http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp317/V4gab0nd/Random/JapanHive.jpg in which japanese people are displayed as lings with hivemind in order to suggest that the entire japanese population thinks SY is ignorant

FTFY
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