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| Ugh, I watch the episode 12 hours late and already I have to sift through 8 pages of ships and commentary. THIS is why I'd already upgraded this show to Masterpiece since episode 4. :D AlexTheRiot said: Wow they really nailed it. Hikari's state of mind from the shock and what he needed to move forward, just nailed it. But seriously, I can't imagine how ignorant you'd have to be to insult his character after all the growth and progress he's made, and especially after what he's been through now. He's all alone in a world where everyone but him has changed, and to him he just witnessed his childhood love likely die and is left to wonder if and when she and his loved ones will wake up and share his experience. Even still, his turn around at the end of the episode showed just how much he's grown. All it took was seeing how(pathetic) Chisaki was doing to realize he could try to embrace the change. After one day. I do like Tsumugu as a character now. He offered very little imo the whole first half, but I think that's because his character was always going to be one that took a while but had long term payoff. We're starting to see the payoff now that you can see his emotionless wall start to crack, and he's been reduced to Taichi level suffering. PA is really impressing me more and more. After all the subtle and not so subtle buildup in the first half, they're delivering on every point possible. This! Anyone who thinks Hikari is a loudmouth with no good points and lacking in character development should go back and watch the first 13 episodes till their eyes bleed. He is the first and only character in all my years of watching anime to go from a prejudiced bigot (humans are bad, they stole my sister, the guy has a kid, etc.) to a mature accepting leader who facilitated the Ofunehiki when all the adults on both side were all bitching at each other, all at the tender age of 14 in one half of a season. His character may be impulsive, but he has a brain and isn't afraid to use it. The way he reacted to Chisaki's confession, the way he made his own confession to Manaka, and even this episode just goes out to show how much character development he's undergone. Imagine going to sleep and waking up 5 years into the future where everything has changed and most of the people that you hold dear are now gone (under the sea, missing, etc.). At 14 years of age, would you be mature enough to accept everything right off the bat, to hold everything in until you break down (on the boat), and to do so in a fashion that doesn't trouble EVERYONE around you? I highly doubt anyone with that age would have the mentality or maturity to do what he just did. Though this episode was somewhat a filler, it confirmed several points. First, Tsumugu has feelings for Chisaki. In prior episodes up to 13, you didn't see it at all. Last episode with the time skip, you sort of had an inkling, but the way he reacted to that professor's comment and the comment about her becoming prettier just sealed the deal. The comment also ensured that Chisaki was made to notice his feelings as well. That was confirmed with the door scene at the end of the episode, Chisaki didn't look guilty (as if caught cheating) per say, but she was surprised at how aware Tsumugu was about her. Tsumugu, being the emo guy he is will never go ahead and say out loud that he likes/loves Chisaki. I figure it will take a trigger of someone of Kaname's caliber to force him to scream his emotions out to the world (kind of like the classroom confessions). The only unknown I have after this episode..... I still don't know who Chisaki actually has feelings for. I thought that Hikari x Chisaki was already dead in the water, but this episode left me more confused than not as to who SHE wants. Second, Hikari is definitely aiming to bring back his family/Manaka/village. He may be a strong mature lad to accept the changes around him, but him diving back to the village shows how even for normal people, when changes around you are too overwhelming, you would try to grab whatever semblance of normality you can in any way you can think of. For him, it was to try to go back to his village under the sea. The failure to do so and the jibe from Tsumugu just tipped him over the edge and he finally lashed out. The fact that he did so in front of Tsumugu alone is also important, it shows that Hikari values Tsumugu not as a rival of sorts but as an important friend, the first he met since coming from the sea. For a 14 year old, that is very mature in my eyes. The joke he made to make Chisaki feel better about her "not changing" was also another mature act. If it were way back in episode 2, he would never have been able to show that kind of tact or understanding to comfort a girl (they'd probably have all ran away crying or something). I can see the next 10 episodes all about him trying to figure the reason why the Ofunehiki didn't work and to try and get his village back. Third..... Akari's kid is so dayum cute! Him running around with a pair of boxers in hand, his playing with uncle Hikari and the flag waving! Man I want a kid like that when I grow up! Not gonna talk about ships after this because mine still haven't changed that much. Unless I have more story development, I'm still on Hikari x Manaka, with everyone else a mystery. |
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| Miuna was cute as a kid but now she's just another obstacle with her incessant (or should I say, INCESTant) feelings for Hikari. I really do not like them being together at all. The time skip makes it so convenient for them to be together though with them now being the same age, mentality and same class that I'm scared that they might go with Hikari x Miuna. I really really hope not. It actually disgusts me, lol. MIUNA'S ANNOYING BOOT HER OFFF HIKARI x MANAKA ALL THE WAY |
| Dude, please no multiple posts, if you wanna reply to several posts, keep them in one post and make multiple quotes. Makes it less messy. |
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| the show just keeps getting better and better. 5/5 thoroughly enjoying the time skip episodes |
Ongaku-hime said: mustardpalace said: These two episodes were sad, but my heart will be broken when Kaname comes back and sees Chisaki. Also, why are people rooting for Miuna and Hikari when we all know he obviously will never give up on Manaka. Plus he's basically her uncle. Jeez you guys. "But they're not related by blood!" Yeah, but he is related to her brother by blood whom she is also related to by blood. So technically, they are related by blood. I'm related to my mother by blood and I'm also related to my father by blood. That doesn't mean my parents are related by blood. |
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| I don't even care who ends up with who right now (concerning hikari, tsumugu, chisaki, etc.). The ONE and ONLY thing I ask for is that manaka does not come back into the love polygon. I used to like Manaka at the very beginning, but then she completely blew off her closest friend in hikari (who loved her), and proceeded to try and get inside freaking tsumugu. If that wasn't enough she then basically said tsumugu was 'too good' for her, and was gonna try go after hkari again. If anything HIKARI is too good for her. And there ends my rant for this week. Hopefully next weeks episode gives me something to rant about again. |
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| Hikari seeing what Chisaki feared T__________T I lost it. But Hikari will move foward. I will lose it again when Kaname comes back T__T. I can't stop crying |
ona said: I'm related to my mother by blood and I'm also related to my father by blood. That doesn't mean my parents are related by blood. Thank you for being the voice of reason. If not for you, I would have had to bang my head against the wall to stop it from hurting because that reasoning was so wrong in all different ways... |
| I want Rambo in a mecha-suit with a laser-chainsaw gun that fires nuclear warheads, fighting the love-child of Predator, Alien, a group of Bangladeshi terrorists, and Satan. (Actually that would be a pretty sick show) - StopDropAndBowl |
| I am loving this series after the time skip, when Hikari started bursting out to Tsumugu u could just hear how lost he felt. Very curious at what is going to happen next episode, how will things ever go back to normal? |
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| I really LIKED this anime and gave it 10 already but I am taking off a point because of Miuna. If you think Chisaki is annoying well she is actually one of the most maturer characters and is acting exactly how one would in the real world when compared to that lil selfish brat. |
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Wordsmith said: ona said: I'm related to my mother by blood and I'm also related to my father by blood. That doesn't mean my parents are related by blood. Thank you for being the voice of reason. If not for you, I would have had to bang my head against the wall to stop it from hurting because that reasoning was so wrong in all different ways... Look up the definition of Incest or ask you parents/family and see their response... It's more so of a crush anyways its not like anythings happening although the shippers of Hikari x Miuna are kinda creepy to me and possibly would love ImoCho. |
VoooJan 17, 2014 12:14 AM
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Vooo said: Look up the definition of Incest or ask you parents/family and see their response... It's more so of a crush anyways its not like anythings happening although the shippers of Hikari x Miuna are kinda creepy to me and possibly would love ImoCho. Incest is always about blood relation. Not blood relation = no incest. And in this case there's not even the "grew up together" thing. Sure, "I'm dating the adopted daughter of my big sister" sounds a bit weird at start, but once you think about it, there's nothing wrong about it. Especially when the two lovers are the same age. So, your only reason sounds like "mimimi not in my christian anime". We get it, you don't like it. And you don't have to. But please keep your unfounded arguments to yourself. |
| I want Rambo in a mecha-suit with a laser-chainsaw gun that fires nuclear warheads, fighting the love-child of Predator, Alien, a group of Bangladeshi terrorists, and Satan. (Actually that would be a pretty sick show) - StopDropAndBowl |
| Am I the only one finding this episode a little disappointing? Wait, that's a bit harsh I guess. I do not like the shippings so far, but they're pretty much canon so that's that. |
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| Oh my god. I think this is the first anime that has had me in continuous tears for an entire episode. Got-dam dohz feels. On another note, it's kind of amazing how polarized the opinions are about nearly ALL of the main characters in this show. People seem to either love or hate Hikari, Kaname, Tsumugu, Chisaki, and Manaka. That's not saying opinions are non existent in the middle of the spectrum. I for one like just about everyone. :P |
-Trippwire-Jan 17, 2014 1:01 AM
| THE FEELSSSS!! Seriously, one of the few animes i look forward to every week. Hope manaka comes back before hikari gets old... |
| Glad that Chisaki and Hikari met each other! I wonder who woke up as mentioned in the preview... My guess is Kaname or could it be.... manaka? |
| Okay, I really hate writing but I need to write my thoughts on this. For the theories:
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joori_StrawberryJan 17, 2014 7:20 AM
| pew pew pew |
| Hikari chisaki ship not yet sunk,there is still hope,18 and 23 age difference is nothing. |
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joori_Strawberry said: Okay, I really hate writing but I need to write my thoughts on this. For the theories:
I think that's a good explanation of what happened, and some decent theories about things to come (especially about Manaka being caught in the net lol). All of Chisaki's anguish made me blubber like a fool. And I think you're right about Miuna and Hikari. This show does a really good job leading around it's love dodecagon or however many pairs there are, but that one seems ill-fated to me. |
| 8/10 ------> 9/10 Brilliant. |
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| The feels in this episode were pretty amazing. Everyone has seen Hikari and now he is not depressed anymore. Great episode!!! |
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| Marvelous episode along with the stunning backgrounds The pace was just right and the feelings revealed as it went Looks like the sea village has been sealed off and protected by the currents, Poor Hikari, but he was well cared for by his family and friends |
| I find it funny how people think pulling off an uncle-niece relationship is simple when there's no blood related problems involved. In the show, others perceive Hikari and Miuna as uncle and niece. Therefore to them, that's going to be a problem. Logically there's nothing wrong with the relationship but to society? That's a whole other story which I don't get why people can't see this. Try placing yourself in the actual story. Even if you say you'd still support it, will you really? I understand hesitantly and gradually you will but immediately? Heck, why are there so many people unwilling to accept gay marriages when there's nothing wrong with it logically? To be honest, even though I find Hikari/Miuna pairing cute I sure as hell wouldn't accept it easily. You guys are speaking from a viewer's (outsider's) POV, completely missing the fact that it's not normal and no, fucking love doesn't conquer it all. =,= But anyways, the backlash Hikari, Chisaki, and, to a lesser extent, Miuna are getting is startling. Whoever described Hikari as underdeveloped and an immature brat is highly laughable and clearly missed the entire series since he developed fairly early. Also, I don't understand why anyone's belittling Chisaki's insecurities. Here's a friend she thought she'd never see before, a friend who's part of her life, coming back after five years. He never changed and she did. Of course she's going to wonder how she will interact him and how things have changed from then on. I still don't understand Miuna's crush, to be honest, even if everyone's pointing that the evidence was her blushing a hefty amount of times before. I dunno, I thought she was just the shy type (which she kind of was-ish). At least she gives Hikari room and tries to find ways to cheer him up. And SO WHAT IF SHE WANTS HIM? Wasn't freaking Kaname's attitude like that towards Chisaki? It's like whatever 'disagreeable' traits the females of the show have are marveled and admired when the males of the show have them. It's annoying. =3= (On another note: more ChisakixTsugumi moments, kyaaaa~) |
Parisbelle said: I find it funny how people think pulling off an uncle-niece relationship is simple when there's no blood related problems involved. It wouldn't be simple, but if it's addressed I don't think it'd take as long as you're insinuating. The mere fact that they aren't related by blood would really aid in people's approval. Love doesn't conquer all, but in animes it frequently does. Not that I agree with the notion, but couples that have some form of 'non-official' family relation is definitely common in anime. Parisbelle said: And SO WHAT IF SHE WANTS HIM? Wasn't freaking Kaname's attitude like that towards Chisaki? It's like whatever 'disagreeable' traits the females of the show have are marveled and admired when the males of the show have them. It's annoying. =3= As for this, I don't think it's a case of male favouritism, but rather because so many people ship Hikari x Manaka, and she's getting in the way. That and of course because of the whole uncle thing. I personally don't mind cuz I can't stand Manaka :P |
Madara31 said: It wouldn't be simple, but if it's addressed I don't think it'd take as long as you're insinuating. The mere fact that they aren't related by blood would really aid in people's approval. Love doesn't conquer all, but in animes it frequently does. Not that I agree with the notion, but couples that have some form of 'non-official' family relation is definitely common in anime. I personally think it would since Nagi no Asukara takes itself very seriously. If it does go down that path, I'd think it would have to take as long as series that takes incest (okay, so they're not blood related it may not take as long but I think the show would still need to spend a fairly large amount of time) seriously. Thing is, they're family related, blood related or not. NnA is more realistic than most animes so I'm judging the anime differently from how I judge others. Whether the NnA will let me down or not is another story. Madara31 said: As for this, I don't think it's a case of male favouritism, but rather because so many people ship Hikari x Manaka, and she's getting in the way. That and of course because of the whole uncle thing. I personally don't mind cuz I can't stand Manaka :P I'm not even talking about those who ship Hikari and Manaka at this point but about those who favor Kaname when he has really done more damage than Chisaki yet he's loved by many and hardly held responsible for what he has done. (I think my feelings from that were mixed up when I was trying to describe how I felt about Miuna. ;D) I think I prefer Manaka as a standalone, when she's not so into the whole crush thing (which she never directly says she was in love with anyone but it was kind of obvious she was). She embodies the whole 'maiden in love' thing too idealistically that it's ugh, why can't you just stay single. Plus, I think she's better off single. :P |
| What a truly magnificent episode! I love the seriousness. Hikari and everyone close to him essentially has to face new challenge which is accepting the new change after the 5 year gap. |
Parisbelle said: I personally think it would since Nagi no Asukara takes itself very seriously. If it does go down that path, I'd think it would have to take as long as series that takes incest (okay, so they're not blood related it may not take as long but I think the show would still need to spend a fairly large amount of time) seriously. Thing is, they're family related, blood related or not. NnA is more realistic than most animes so I'm judging the anime differently from how I judge others. Whether the NnA will let me down or not is another story. It'd take time, but because pretty much the only thing going on with Miuna right now are her feelings for Hikari, I think they'd be able to incorporate the struggle into the story without too much trouble. Perhaps that'd be Miuna's focus while the other characters address the other issues? I dunno. You may be right in that it'd cause too much controversy. But they have 11 episodes to address it which I think is more than enough considering several animes which I also consider to be realistic have done so in less time (because in those animes, the issue only started getting addressed several episodes in). Parisbelle said: I'm not even talking about those who ship Hikari and Manaka at this point but about those who favor Kaname when he has really done more damage than Chisaki yet he's loved by many and hardly held responsible for what he has done. (I think my feelings from that were mixed up when I was trying to describe how I felt about Miuna. ;D) I think I prefer Manaka as a standalone, when she's not so into the whole crush thing (which she never directly says she was in love with anyone but it was kind of obvious she was). She embodies the whole 'maiden in love' thing too idealistically that it's ugh, why can't you just stay single. Plus, I think she's better off single. :P To be honest I agree with you on Kaname, I don't really know why he's loved as much as he is considering what he's done. Maybe people just like to support the romantically tragic character. Chisaki can also be considered tragic, but not in a romantic sense. And I'd definitely also prefer Manaka as a standalone. Maybe as a new god or something, I dunno. I think the story would have a bigger impact that way :P |
| Hikari and his nephew! The almighty "kancho" team is born ladies and gentlemen :) |
| Looks like we are back to the status quo in some sense. |
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| Hikari venting out his feelings to Tsumugu was sad to see :(. Hikari's reunion with Chisaki was even sadder,actually teared up abit ;___;.Glad to see Hikari hasn't changed though. (Speaking out which dat animation during that scene breathtaking.) I feel like no one is really going to care about Kaname coming back(other than Sayu).In the end he really did get screwed over. |
| The fuck? Is this fucking netorare or should I say cheating? |
Amble said: The fuck? Is this fucking netorare or should I say cheating? What is? |
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