| First thread since Mellow 4 Mod. Whoop. Summer classes started, and I'm bored as hell. Probably don't have time for LoL so I guess I'm back on MAL! Now with the thread. Not sure how this thread'll go so I'll condense it. ===================== So I've just been wondering a quickie question. If you had the choice of living happy, but your entire living was a lie, would you choose to do it? Examples:
Oh, and to verify, answer the question before you're living it. Of course you're going to be fine with it after you've made the choice to live the lie. I'm talking before. Soo apparently CommanderJenny left MAL. Lol. Made a spew of threads then suddenly decides to great. Just dandy. Oh, and in other news, I'm bored! Have fun wasting your time reading this text. Blah blah that's it for now. I'm fucking hungry and too poor to solve it. |
MellowJello said: I'm fucking hungry and too poor to solve it. Me too. If living a lie would fix this, I'm sold, and the details don't matter. I wonder what the rest of MAL will say. This thread has some potential for entertainment. |
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| If I felt good about it, then why not? |
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| No. I believe religion is a lie, yet it obviously makes some people happy. Perhaps it would make me happy too, but I will not ignore what I believe to be the truth for the mere sake of happiness. |
كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
| I haven't left MAL. |
| Come visit my town // I apologize in advance for my second-rate English Join my fan club // Improve the transport network |
CommanderJenny said: Would you care to answer the question of the thread? And if so, what's your answer?I haven't left MAL. Nidstang said: And if you didn't feel good about it?If I felt good about it, then why not? |
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| If im living happily (i.e im feeling happy) why would i care if it was a lie? Do you mean if i'd be guaranteed good living conditions but had to lie for them? |
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| I might not be following your question correctly, but here goes... I guess it depends on who I'm affecting. If I genuinely know the people that I might be screwing over by living this lie, say your first example "Hitman (hired assassin) living with his oblivious family" than no I wouldn't want to lie to only have myself be happy. If I knew I was screwing over people, but had no idea who I was screwing over then yeah I wouldn't mind if it meant I could be happy. Pretty fucked up way to think, but it's honest and I think most people would too. I doubt I'll ever be in a position to do this anyways. |
| “News travels fast in places where nothing much ever happens.” ― Charles Bukowski |
| I could never be happy if I knew it was a lie. Catch 22. |
| Let this be our little secret, no needs to know we're feeling HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER! |
Maor said: If im living happily (i.e im feeling happy) why would i care if it was a lie? Do you mean if i'd be guaranteed good living conditions but had to lie for them? MellowJello said: Oh, and to verify, answer the question before you're living it. Of course you're going to be fine with it after you've made the choice to live the lie. I'm talking before. And whatever makes you happy. If you live the lie, lie for the happiness, or the entire thing is a sham, then yes. |
| Yes.. My dream job is working for the CIA so.. |
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| Mellow, did pretending to be a girl on the internet make you happy? |
| No. Lies have to get out someday, right? |
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KawanoMino said: No. Lies have to get out someday, right? Do they? |
| Come visit my town // I apologize in advance for my second-rate English Join my fan club // Improve the transport network |
MellowJello said: CommanderJenny said: Would you care to answer the question of the thread? And if so, what's your answer?I haven't left MAL. Nidstang said: And if you didn't feel good about it?If I felt good about it, then why not? Then I wouldn't be able to handle it. |
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JustALEX said: Mellow, did pretending to be a girl on the internet make you happy? WHAT THE... MELLOW'S A DUDE?!? |
| Let this be our little secret, no needs to know we're feeling HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER! |
| Life is a lie, might as well be happy, right? |
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| I guess I would, I think it would be quite endearing to have a second life. And if the stress wouldn't be to much, and if I indeed would be happy. Why the fuck not? |
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| meh, no. The stress would kill me and I ain't exactly some shining shounen protag anyway. Lying to myself for a long period of time would only set me up for more horrible truths anyway or.... something like that. |
| You're all idiots, but I'm no different. |
| If the only person affected by the lie is me, than I would gladly live in that lie of happiness |
| Schools out, No job at moment, STILL hello MAL Eh..I will try to be online |
Nidstang said: If I felt good about it, then why not? Agree. |
| No. True Happiness will never equate to Lies and Deceit, only to Regrets and wasted time. |
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Hiryu12 said: That could be interpreted to be pretty "deep".No. True Happiness will never equate to Lies and Deceit, only to Regrets and wasted time. Capitalized letters feels like I'm missing something, though I have no clue what. |
Hiryu12 said: No. True Happiness will never equate to Lies and Deceit, only to Regrets and wasted time. Who told you that? What quoting website did that come from? |
| Schools out, No job at moment, STILL hello MAL Eh..I will try to be online |
| I'm rationalizing all the time. Isn't that essentially lying to myself? XD |
SOExclusive said: Hiryu12 said: No. True Happiness will never equate to Lies and Deceit, only to Regrets and wasted time. Who told you that? What quoting website did that come from? Just thought of it on the spot. I maybe an engineering graduate but I took philosophy classes as well. =) |
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| i really don't think so. i've always had a hard time being anything but me. |
| Fine to me as long as it won't harm other people. |
MellowJello said: Hiryu12 said: That could be interpreted to be pretty "deep".No. True Happiness will never equate to Lies and Deceit, only to Regrets and wasted time. Capitalized letters feels like I'm missing something, though I have no clue what. The capital letters are just for emphasis. I actually forgot to capitalize the Wasted Time part. =( |
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| If I am not aware and will never find out that it is a lie, maybe. Although I'm quite content with my life right now. |
| Oh, be careful, this thread is deeper than it seems. My answer is yes. |
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| I get the feeling this is a very self-conscious thread, coming from Mellow. |
 Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. |
| "if it makes you happy" ... uh.. yea. I'd be happy. Duh. |
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Red_Keys said: Ignored the bolded I see."if it makes you happy" ... uh.. yea. I'd be happy. Duh. |
Red_Keys said: "if it makes you happy" ... uh.. yea. I'd be happy. Duh. Taking his question so literally for comedic effect is rater comedic (durrrr), but I do not think I'd ever sacrifice truth for happiness. Can you say the same? |
كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
| Oh ok. Well then: I live it right now. My sexuality is a secret, and so is the fact that I watch anime. Bam. Get at me. |
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Red_Keys said: Oh ok. Well then: I live it right now. My sexuality is a secret, and so is the fact that I watch anime. Bam. Get at me. But not on here, right? |
| Come visit my town // I apologize in advance for my second-rate English Join my fan club // Improve the transport network |
| The more severe the lie, the more likely I won't. |
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| I don't want to live a lie, at least not in this sense. It's hard to keep a secret about yourself away from others. Its nice not to hide things. Now if you mean if I would live in a Matrix or choose reality, I think that's a tough one, but I'd choose reality that is harsh rather then living the lie of the Matrix. |
MellowJello said: Well that would be the best job ever. |
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Chakaara said: MellowJello said: Well that would be the best job ever. What do you think politicians do? |
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| I believe lies are necessary. Sometimes we do it subconsciously. Rationalizing about an outcome when it really had nothing to do with your own efforts can be a lie, for example. Though to accept lies as necessary or living with a lie is easier said than done. But what if you know for sure the person/people don't wish to hear it? It will undeniably destroy your relationships, destroy stability (on more macro relationships than just with people alone) just because your naivety thought it was a good idea to be honest. And where can honesty get you? Alone. Fired. Depressed. For starters. Not to say that honesty is bad, but again, there should be a balance. Nobody likes someone who lies often either. |
TachiiJun 25, 2013 12:01 PM
Tachii said: Nobody likes someone who lies often either. Election days tell me otherwise, especially the last one. But I will agree that lies are necessary. One truth that is for certain is that some people just can't handle the truth. |
NTADJun 25, 2013 12:29 PM
| I'd rather not live a lie unless I absolutely had to... And I can't think of any examples either. As Tachii already mentioned, I also believe that lies are necessary. |
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| How can you live a lie and be happy? Usually only those in denial or those who have some sort of altered state of mind are living a lie and, even then, it's only a lie to those looking in from the outside. To the person who is 'living a lie' that lie is their truth. Conforming to your own ideals about what is true and what isn't. That's when I think you'll be happy. |
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Ntad said: I guess that's true. Though I think people didn't think they were lies. Or they just thought the guy was likeable, not whatever policies they said they were going to do. When they discover lies, as they usually do, it's usually game over. But hey, the masses are not quite, that bright.Tachii said: Nobody likes someone who lies often either. Election days tell me otherwise, especially the last one. But I will agree that lies are necessary. One truth that is for certain is that some people just can't handle the truth. |
| Happiness isn't worth more than truth to me. I would rather live a miserable life that is real, than a happy life that is fake. If the life is fake the happiness is fake anyway. |
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| I think people love being lied to depending on the effect of the lie. Society wouldn't function the same if everyone were brutally honest. For more info, watch that 1 Kino no Tabi episode. |
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