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Dec 18, 2008 3:24 PM

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shinkeikaku said:
Lots of teenagers do have sex and manage not to catch disease or get pregnant.
Oh yeah, I'm not saying that everyone goes out and gets pregnant. I'm just saying that as an example of the worse things they could be doing xD
Dec 18, 2008 5:20 PM

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lol why would they to watch it?
This totally reminds me of the "I accidentally a coca cola bottle" line.


lol sorryv for my typo. but seriously why would they

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Dec 23, 2008 5:43 AM

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Rebella said:
No comment on poll result. I highly disagree with it and there's a big fall in morals today.


I couldn't agree more , hentai is evil .. I'm an adult , but it hurts my eyes even glancing any hentai related graphics , and you want kids to watch it ?
May be parents should gather their children on Saturday nights and rent some porn to entertain them too ..
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i dont really think theirs anything wrong with it.

if they didnt mastubate to hentai they would just find something else much worse to watch.

i mean can you imagine explaining to a 12 year old kid what BDSM is or something.

if they want to watch it its their choice
Dec 23, 2008 6:54 AM

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Kufufufu Little children do naughty things kufufufu
Dec 23, 2008 7:05 AM
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I find it fucking unbelievable that people find the time to complain about their kids jacking off to porn at age 12 when they could be doing drugs or getting some stupid bitch pregnant.

OH NO MY CHILD IS MASTURBATING. HE'S GOING TO HELL NOW. WHY GOD?

what the fuck is wrong with people

Hentai same thing. Who gives a fuck.

I agree with that!
Dec 23, 2008 7:17 AM

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It's natural. Now, if you get addicted (which there are a number of people who are addicted to porn) then that can make yourself desensitized and therefore you need MORE stimuli to get you aroused. So that may lead one into going into heavier and heavier stuff. Porn is great, but I don't think that should stop teenagers from having sex all together. As long as they use a condom, they should be experimenting and having fun, not cooped up in their rooms fapping all the time lol

Dec 23, 2008 7:28 AM

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i dont have a problem with that...i started watching porns when i was hmm.. i wont tell ;P
Dec 23, 2008 7:30 AM

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Meh, I'm cool with it, expecially since I've been watching hentai for a few years now. It's better than penting up a rabid sexual urge until you're 18 and ready to explode.
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Dec 23, 2008 7:41 AM

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They should be allowed obviously, except some things that are ment for adults.
Dec 23, 2008 7:45 AM

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Maglor said:
They should be allowed obviously, except some things that are ment for adults.


Hentai in general is meant for adults. That doesn't make any sense.
Dec 23, 2008 7:48 AM

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hikky said:
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They should be allowed obviously, except some things that are ment for adults.


Hentai in general is meant for adults. That doesn't make any sense.


It is for 18+ Like on the labels, But who is going to stop them? 'Tis the parent's responsibility to decide what is introduced in the child's environment, thus why most ISP's have parental controls or controls that block key words, such as "porn" and etc etc
Dec 23, 2008 8:18 AM
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biased lol
Dec 23, 2008 8:44 AM

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They will find out about the birds and the bees eventually, maybe it's better to show them the nasty stuff about sex early on...

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It's better than them going out and doing it.


Thank you sir, for making my day ^_^


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Dec 23, 2008 7:05 PM

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don't agree :P
they should be patient ..
just wait until 17 year-old

but I don't know,, it's depend on the person
for me,, I don't have any problem :P

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It is wrong, but normal. It means that we are growing up.

Dec 25, 2008 12:22 AM

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Kaiserpingvin said:
Rebella said:
No comment on poll result. I highly disagree with it and there's a big fall in morals today.

I am pretty sure almost every single person who voted in fact has morals, so your statement is in error.

"Almost" because Baman might'ave, and there might be other full-heart nihilists lurking here.


Not really. It's immoral, unethical and illegal to show kids hentai. How about that? I don't care about looking open minded on forums hun ;) Try to be like me.

Dec 25, 2008 12:28 AM

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lol ppl...its normal to watch porns or even hentai....and btw u cant forbid em...they would watch it even if u forbid it ^^....ask ur self,could some1 forbid u ? nope i dnt think so ˇ:D
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I think the problem stems not from the act of showing teenagers or what have you pornography (whatever the type), it's what said teenagers do with this knowledge AFTER. If you as a parent or guardian do not raise your kids to act responsibly then there is gonna be some issues.

But yes, this topic is an age-old topic that has been beaten around more times than I could ever count.
Dec 25, 2008 12:51 AM

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u are completely right and I agree with all facts....our duty is to rise kids with takin full responsibility...But everybody will rise their kid on their own and this is good thread to discuss about it ^^
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Dec 25, 2008 1:41 AM

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I don't think kids should be watch Hentai, but I don't really think it is a big deal if teenagers watch it.
Dec 25, 2008 7:15 AM

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Rebella said:
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Rebella said:
No comment on poll result. I highly disagree with it and there's a big fall in morals today.

I am pretty sure almost every single person who voted in fact has morals, so your statement is in error.

"Almost" because Baman might'ave, and there might be other full-heart nihilists lurking here.


Not really. It's immoral, unethical and illegal to show kids hentai. How about that? I don't care about looking open minded on forums hun ;) Try to be like me.



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Kuyukly said:
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Rebella said:
No comment on poll result. I highly disagree with it and there's a big fall in morals today.

I am pretty sure almost every single person who voted in fact has morals, so your statement is in error.

"Almost" because Baman might'ave, and there might be other full-heart nihilists lurking here.


Not really. It's immoral, unethical and illegal to show kids hentai. How about that? I don't care about looking open minded on forums hun ;) Try to be like me.



Do you really have nothing better to do than troll? Jeez.

I don't think she's trolling. This thread is on the subject of kids and teenagers watching hentai, and she disagrees with the concept of it. Nothing wrong with that at all.

It is illegal, by the way.
Dec 25, 2008 7:20 AM

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I'm only 12 years old, and I've been watching hentai for 11 years, porn for 14.
I'm not ashamed.
Dec 25, 2008 7:22 AM

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qtipbrit said:
I'm only 12 years old, and I've been watching porn for 14 [years].

I used to watch porn all the time before my mom was pregnant with me, too.
Dec 25, 2008 7:22 AM

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What is wrong with being curious?

Its not a problem, as long as they don't start becoming sadistic and wanting to tie/be tied by someone. -_-;;


Even then there is nothing wrong as long as both parties have mutual consent.
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Foggle said:
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Rebella said:
No comment on poll result. I highly disagree with it and there's a big fall in morals today.

I am pretty sure almost every single person who voted in fact has morals, so your statement is in error.

"Almost" because Baman might'ave, and there might be other full-heart nihilists lurking here.


Not really. It's immoral, unethical and illegal to show kids hentai. How about that? I don't care about looking open minded on forums hun ;) Try to be like me.



Do you really have nothing better to do than troll? Jeez.

I don't think she's trolling. This thread is on the subject of kids and teenagers watching hentai, and she disagrees with the concept of it. Nothing wrong with that at all.

It is illegal, by the way.


Illegal, yes, but I'm referring to her condescending use of "hun" and implying that she can decide what's moral and what's not rather than her disagreement. She's done that in other threads to rile people up too.

Also, showing kids hentai isn't the question here--it's about whether kids and teenagers can watch it, whether they find it themselves or otherwise.

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I'm only 12 years old, and I've been watching porn for 14 [years].

I used to watch porn all the time before my mom was pregnant with me, too.

I have no mother, I was born from a test tube.
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qtipbrit said:
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I'm only 12 years old, and I've been watching porn for 14 [years].

I used to watch porn all the time before my mom was pregnant with me, too.

I have no mother, I was born from a test tube.

My mother was actually a cow inseminated with a human embryo. I am nothing but a clone of another person. :(
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Foggle said:
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I'm only 12 years old, and I've been watching porn for 14 [years].

I used to watch porn all the time before my mom was pregnant with me, too.

I have no mother, I was born from a test tube.

My mother was actually a cow inseminated with a human embryo. I am nothing but a clone of another person. :(

Lies, I met your mother at the local pound.
I would have adopted her, but she was too lanky for my tastes.
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Rebella said:
Not really. It's immoral, unethical and illegal to show kids hentai. How about that? I don't care about looking open minded on forums hun ;) Try to be like me.


This is not about open-mindedness, it's about having a sensible, well-supported worldview. And there is no such thing as a sensible, well-supported absolutist moral worldview. The onus of proof is on you, and you skid away from it. I mean, it's bad enough to state something as objectively morally wrong, but when you go and give zero arguments for your position, that's just silly. Open-mindedness is irrelevant next to intellectual honesty and coherence (of course, open-mindedness is a part of that, but not a necessary one).

I am looking forward to seeing an actual argument from you, so I can show the logical/factual contradictions inherent in it and demolish it. I am also looking forward to you not replying so we can continue finding out exactly how Foggle was born and what qtipbrit is doing with Foggles mother. Or, most schockingly, you come with an argument I've never heard before which is actually consistent, logical and well-based in fact, in which case the world will change for the more oppressive kind of better and we'll all be middleclass with white shining teeth.

tl;dr moral absolutism schmoral smchobolutism, it should die in a fire (and it actually did but the damn thing is a ZOMBIE OH FUCK BURNING MORAL ABSOLUTIST ZOMBIE).
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umm....hentai is not for kids...for teenagers yes...
But u cant forbid em...as i allready said.
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someone's gotta stick some senses on kids or they usually grow up like retards in the future. teenagers on the other hand have a better understanding of their surrounding and the media, so it's alright for them to actually see it and maybe learn from it.

again for kids, a big no-no.
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But some people even if they over 20 are worst than 8 years kids.

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When you're young, watching porn is like smoking cigarettes. All the adults say you shouldn't do it, so you go do it anyway. And kids need to get inspiration somewhere if I believe all those studies wich say that kids these days start having sex at a much younger age...

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Kaiserpingvin said:
Rebella said:
Not really. It's immoral, unethical and illegal to show kids hentai. How about that? I don't care about looking open minded on forums hun ;) Try to be like me.


This is not about open-mindedness, it's about having a sensible, well-supported worldview. And there is no such thing as a sensible, well-supported absolutist moral worldview. The onus of proof is on you, and you skid away from it. I mean, it's bad enough to state something as objectively morally wrong, but when you go and give zero arguments for your position, that's just silly. Open-mindedness is irrelevant next to intellectual honesty and coherence (of course, open-mindedness is a part of that, but not a necessary one).

I am looking forward to seeing an actual argument from you, so I can show the logical/factual contradictions inherent in it and demolish it. I am also looking forward to you not replying so we can continue finding out exactly how Foggle was born and what qtipbrit is doing with Foggles mother. Or, most schockingly, you come with an argument I've never heard before which is actually consistent, logical and well-based in fact, in which case the world will change for the more oppressive kind of better and we'll all be middleclass with white shining teeth.

tl;dr moral absolutism schmoral smchobolutism, it should die in a fire (and it actually did but the damn thing is a ZOMBIE OH FUCK BURNING MORAL ABSOLUTIST ZOMBIE).


Try to make your posts informative please= CUT THE CRAP! and stick to grammers when typing please. Your post hurt my eyes.
Anyways, here's why it's immoral. Having kids watch porn, hentai any medium with extremely sexual graphic content is illegal everywhere. By violating the laws which state that it's a crime to expose minors and underrage people to such mediums, you become immoral because abiding the laws is moral. Why is there ESRB? Why are minors and underrage prohibited from going to some places or watching certain movies or play some games?
Moral is a broad term and doesn't apply to basic things such as telling the truth and not stealing. It's a relative and subjective term also.
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Rebella said:
Try to make your posts informative please= CUT THE CRAP! and stick to grammers when typing please. Your post hurt my eyes.
Anyways, here's why it's immoral. Having kids watch porn, hentai any medium with extremely sexual graphic content is illegal everywhere. By violating the laws which state that it's a crime to expose minors and underrage people to such mediums, you become immoral because abiding the laws is moral. Why is there ESRB? Why are minors and underrage prohibited from going to some places or watching certain movies or play some games?
Moral is a broad term and doesn't apply to basic things such as telling the truth and not stealing. It's a relative and subjective term also.
Bolded part: That is what I am arguing for and you against. The preceeding sentence I don't get though, are you saying telling the truth and not stealing aren't moral? If so you're at least the most unique absolutist I've seen.

Why it is immoral? I don't care. You must prove that they are objectively true, something you didn't do beyond merely stating that it was so (this is my sticking point with it all). I'm an anarchist, I don't like the law, and abiding by the law for the sake of abiding by the law is appalling. We are not automatons, we are living beings, the laws are for our sake. Not vice versa. If they serve no purpose they are to be discarded. Unless of course someone proves that no, human beings exist for the sake of upholding law (you must admit that's not a very credible scenario).

And those things exist because of ages-old, calcifying moral systems based on false presuppositions. Games do not turn you into a murderer. Porn does not turn you into a nymphomaniac.

Apart from "schockingly" I do not spot any atrocious error on my part regarding that posts English. Which is about on the same level as using "also" when it really should be "too", or positioned far earlier in the sentence. Or calling it grammers.

I don't care if you find it immoral, just don't go around positing it as an absolute truth. Moral can't be wrong, it is a mere human construction and as thus anything is permitted and all moral systems "true"/meaningless, praise be to them hashishes.
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I voted "They should not watch", but I don't really see why they would want to watch it (talking about kids, not fourteen year olds). In any case, if they have to, better to watch real porn, in my opinion. Not that live porn can't be messed up, but I think hentai has a lot more inappropriate content, and it's not very realistic either.


Couldn't have said it better. =)
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Kids should not watch it, they should have no knowledge that it exists anyway.

Teenagers are naturally horny things, so they'll probably watch hentai regardless of whether anyone says not to.

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I don't see the appeal of Hentai really. They're just drawings.

Also, I voted no opinion.
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I'm 15 years old and I've been fapping to hentai since I was 12.

Nothing is wrong with masturbating, since you know, about 90% of teenagers and adults do it.
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Kaiserpingvin said:
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Try to make your posts informative please= CUT THE CRAP! and stick to grammers when typing please. Your post hurt my eyes.
Anyways, here's why it's immoral. Having kids watch porn, hentai any medium with extremely sexual graphic content is illegal everywhere. By violating the laws which state that it's a crime to expose minors and underrage people to such mediums, you become immoral because abiding the laws is moral. Why is there ESRB? Why are minors and underrage prohibited from going to some places or watching certain movies or play some games?
Moral is a broad term and doesn't apply to basic things such as telling the truth and not stealing. It's a relative and subjective term also.
Bolded part: That is what I am arguing for and you against. The preceeding sentence I don't get though, are you saying telling the truth and not stealing aren't moral? If so you're at least the most unique absolutist I've seen.

Why it is immoral? I don't care. You must prove that they are objectively true, something you didn't do beyond merely stating that it was so (this is my sticking point with it all). I'm an anarchist, I don't like the law, and abiding by the law for the sake of abiding by the law is appalling. We are not automatons, we are living beings, the laws are for our sake. Not vice versa. If they serve no purpose they are to be discarded. Unless of course someone proves that no, human beings exist for the sake of upholding law (you must admit that's not a very credible scenario).

And those things exist because of ages-old, calcifying moral systems based on false presuppositions. Games do not turn you into a murderer. Porn does not turn you into a nymphomaniac.

Apart from "schockingly" I do not spot any atrocious error on my part regarding that posts English. Which is about on the same level as using "also" when it really should be "too", or positioned far earlier in the sentence. Or calling it grammers.

I don't care if you find it immoral, just don't go around positing it as an absolute truth. Moral can't be wrong, it is a mere human construction and as thus anything is permitted and all moral systems "true"/meaningless, praise be to them hashishes.


Kids watching porn and hentai is immoral. Put the "killing" urge to sound open minded aside please. As for the "I don't abide by the laws just to abide by them" XD ... I'm a lawyer in training, what the heck does that mean? You're in a democratic country, you make the laws hun not a group of martians. Laws were made to protect you and your rights from any form of assult. Put that sixties conspiracy theory and crap talk aside. Be rational. Abide by the laws just to abide by them you say...


Aren't you contradicting yourself by trying to backfire every post I make? Or you view me as a "threat" ?
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Kids watching porn and hentai is immoral. Put the "killing" urge to sound open minded aside please. As for the "I don't abide by the laws just to abide by them" XD ... I'm a lawyer in training, what the heck does that mean? You're in a democratic country, you make the laws hun not a group of martians. Laws were made to protect you and your rights from any form of assult. Put that sixties conspiracy theory and crap talk aside. Be rational. Abide by the laws just to abide by them you say...


You are just saying that it is immoral, and then saying it is because the law says so. Now, a few small tidbits here:

The law changes.

The law only applies to citizens of the relevant country.

The law was made for human beings.

Just abiding by the law because it is the law is insane - it should only be followed when it is for the purpose of making society work, and making sure people have lives living up to whatever standards have been set by the process of voting, fillibustering, bribing, more voting, brandy, drunk parties and then some voting. Top off with some bribes and a lot of propaganda all over the place.

If the law would say, "Kill the jew! Throw him down the well!", I would not follow the law. That's what I meant with not abiding by the law because it's the law - I follow the rules that make sure society runs on and doesn't get fucked up. Stopping kids from watching porn is frankly irrelevant. There is no harm done to anyone, so the law should shut up and let the kids watch whatever sick shit they want (I don't think they at all would want to, actually).

And there was not any conspiracy theory :/ I just think that laws are unnecessary and tyrannic.

I am not open-minded, I am quite arrogant. I also happen to be a moral relativist because that's the only defensible position there is (except nihilism, I find that one illogical on grounds of rather fleeting definitions of meaning). So yes, I am rational, or as rational as my rather feeble mind can be.
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They mustn't watch! The girls will be DEVASTATED when they learn that tentacles aren't used for sex!! :3
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They mustn't watch! The girls will be DEVASTATED when they learn that tentacles aren't used for sex!! :3


Ha!Ha! i laugh so much at this. What a disappointment. No tentacles in real life.

Anyway. I Believe Kids should definitely NOT watch this things. Kids have a very vivid imagination, don't fully understand the world around them and there minds are very easily affected. Lots of them might think that that's how real sex is, or even go and to strange staff. It might even make them have strange perverted taste when they grow up or even want to rape a girl just because it affected there brain in the wrong way because they were too young. Sure most of them will probably grow up and understand that it was just some anime porn but there is always the risk of some of them being affected in the wrong way.
Am not quite sure about teenagers. But i don't think is that bad for them to see Hentai.
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I wouldn't say you're arrogant and tyrannical but you're definilty misinformed. Saying laws were created so that a group of people benefit from them means you believe laws weren't created for the greater good and that you're not benefitting from any law. This is the epitome of conspiracy theory. You know when you think of everything as a conspiracy? People in the 60s used to think that way due to being stoned. This is a shallow way of thinking.
Laws are made by people for the people. Paying taxes which you might think of as "evil" is the reason why you're getting water, electricity, medical services and schools and the list goes on.

Kids watching hentai and porn is immoral.



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Kids have a very vivid imagination, don't fully understand the world around them and there minds are very easily affected.
Apart from the vivid imagination part, that sounds exactly like adults :o

Anyway, I'd like a study confirming that yes, early porn-watching combined with a good, early sex-education does in fact still lead to mental aberrations and pain later in life. The kids can take fantasy violence, they ought to be able to take slightly fantastic sex too.

But still, I don't think many at all want to look at it. It's boring, it's just screams, moans and more or less naked bodies.
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Kids have a very vivid imagination, don't fully understand the world around them and there minds are very easily affected.
Apart from the vivid imagination part, that sounds exactly like adults :o

Anyway, I'd like a study confirming that yes, early porn-watching combined with a good, early sex-education does in fact still lead to mental aberrations and pain later in life. The kids can take fantasy violence, they ought to be able to take slightly fantastic sex too.

But still, I don't think many at all want to look at it. It's boring, it's just screams, moans and more or less naked bodies.


You are wrong. I noticed from my self and from other people that our childish memories are often over exaggerated. When we are kids some things look even more intense and affect as a lot more than when we are adults. That's why we usually feel so nostalgic or have intense fear or problems with things that are connected to our memories while we were children. And we don't know how a child's brain will absorb the experience of watching a Hentai.

As about them wanting to look at it. Well you never know but they might want to watch it at least one time, just out of curiosity.
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Hentai gives an unrealistic look of what sex is like. Kids might think that is how you have to have sex (and since some hentai has incest themes I don't think it would turn out too well -_-). Real porn > Hentai.
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Kaiserpingvin said:
Monad said:
Kids have a very vivid imagination, don't fully understand the world around them and there minds are very easily affected.
Apart from the vivid imagination part, that sounds exactly like adults :o

Anyway, I'd like a study confirming that yes, early porn-watching combined with a good, early sex-education does in fact still lead to mental aberrations and pain later in life. The kids can take fantasy violence, they ought to be able to take slightly fantastic sex too.

But still, I don't think many at all want to look at it. It's boring, it's just screams, moans and more or less naked bodies.


Well I do have an interesting story actually, I know some "friends: who were introduced to porn at a very early age and that seems to have happened to them, lets say around 5 of them, well they're pretty much socially-retarded, never been on a date with a girl, don't have any close friends, and stay home mounted to their computer all day, usually playing some RPG make for 10 year olds, like maplestory. Quite pathetic for the most part, as they spend their days wasting their lives without ever touching a girl's hand or bosom =P.

I'd say Porn leads to various factors, it develops our curiosity but perhaps also builds a mental stigma in the watchers are this is how a man and woman should always behave, you know the whole seduction scenes and crap where the gal calls in a plumber to fix her clog and crap -_-;. *shrug*

I'd say let them have at it at a "decent" age, yes decent is vague and subjective, but lets use our common sense and say it is not 0-10 years old -_-.
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