| I can't figure it out. What can people possibly say about this anime that makes it bad? All I can think of is: 1. Nudity 2. Violence 3. Incest I'm a big boy, and I looked at the rating before I watched it. It clearly noted how vulgar it would be. I just don't get it. I cried so freaking hard when Nyu kept telling the dude she was sorry, and he didn't realize she meant what she really meant. People can be so stingy. |
| There are always haters, show is very good and touching if u get into it. I find two things that could be fixed: |
| You hardly saw any good anime. What would you know? And being violent having blood etc isn't what makes it get criticism, that's what actually made it have fans. The basic flaw of this anime is that it has a bad ending and a big identity crisis. It doesn't know if it wants to be horror, drama show or a silly comedic fanservice moe show. It somehow tried to combine those stuff and that didn't work in it's favor because ether they don't seem to mix together very well or they didn't know how to cook them without destroying each others flavors. |
| You know... Elfen Lied is the 6th most popular anime out there. It needs far more hate than it gets. |
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| The ending wasnt bad. The ending is like a shot for shot connection to the manga so you can continue the story on your own. |
Monad said: The basic flaw of this anime is that it has a bad ending and a big identity crisis. It doesn't know if it wants to be horror, drama show or a silly comedic fanservice moe show. Oh, it definitely knows what it wants to be. You may not like what it's doing, but there's no "identity crisis" here, the way it contrasts its happy and idealistic side with its tragic and nihilistic side and plays them off against each other, bringing them together in the middle in the form of myth is very clever and absolutely deliberate, there's no string of coincidences here. |
Solvite said: I can't figure it out. What can people possibly say about this anime that makes it bad? All I can think of is: 1. Nudity 2. Violence 3. Incest I'm a big boy, and I looked at the rating before I watched it. It clearly noted how vulgar it would be. I just don't get it. I cried so freaking hard when Nyu kept telling the dude she was sorry, and he didn't realize she meant what she really meant. People can be so stingy. Because People cant handle it or don't understand it. Also the anime changed the ending. the manga loves hate on it cause of the fact that they changed the ending(or made it up). They story isn't that confusing but there is much symbolism and it can be a bit deep. and the #1 reason people can't handle it. 1st is the gore and yes 2nd is the nudity it is not fan-service but it is there and people are just like boooobys. 3rd Horrifying scenes people don't like to think that bad stuff happens in life this shows what can happen. Also in a gory way. 4th this show doesn't make you think but it does make you feel maybe people don't like there emotions being played with idk(not sure about this one). |
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| I loved Elfen Lied, but if it had been a 30ish episode anime that completely covered the manga it would have been perfect. 30ish episodes would slow the pacing down just enough and the addition of the ACTUAL ending would serve many purposes: 1) As a solid resolution 2) As a tear jerker 3) It would take its rightful throne as most gruesome death in anime history. |
Solvite said: I can't figure it out. I'm a big boy, and I looked at the rating before I watched it. It clearly noted how vulgar it would be. I just don't get it. People can be so stingy. Ok here's your problem: people don't check the rating. Elfen Lied is on Netflix and that's where I watched it. It was fine for me, because I love horror movies. But seriously, imagine someone clicking on that and not knowing what they're getting into... |
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| Because it has stupid plot and lots of SHOCK FACTOR! |
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Monad said: You hardly saw any good anime. What would you know? And being violent having blood etc isn't what makes it get criticism, that's what actually made it have fans. You didn't understand it at all. aLooser said: I loved Elfen Lied, but if it had been a 30ish episode anime that completely covered the manga it would have been perfect. 30ish episodes would slow the pacing down just enough and the addition of the ACTUAL ending would serve many purposes: 1) As a solid resolution 2) As a tear jerker 3) It would take its rightful throne as most gruesome death in anime history. Yep, that's exactly what they should've done, the manga was so good. |
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| Elfen Lied was the first manga that I completed when I started reading manga. I read that about 5 years ago and it is still the best manga that I have read imo. I tend to watch what I finished reading (or vice versa) to see which is better. The anime followed the manga for about 6 eps, then they pretty much said "screw the awesome manga... let's see how we can make a great manga complete shit, " and that they did do. I can understand where this show can be good if you have not read the manga, but if you have, then you know the show not only changed the story, but left quite a bit of important information out of the anime. As far as I'm concerned, this show is the worst adaptation from manga to anime (based on the titles that I have read AND watched). |
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BlackTruth said: Elfen Lied was the first manga that I completed when I started reading manga. I read that about 5 years ago and it is still the best manga that I have read imo. I tend to watch what I finished reading (or vice versa) to see which is better. The anime followed the manga for about 6 eps, then they pretty much said "screw the awesome manga... let's see how we can make a great manga complete shit, " and that they did do. I can understand where this show can be good if you have not read the manga, but if you have, then you know the show not only changed the story, but left quite a bit of important information out of the anime. As far as I'm concerned, this show is the worst adaptation from manga to anime (based on the titles that I have read AND watched). The manga didn't make any sense. At the end, Lucy somehow was turned into ice cream. |
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| I think it's generally because it disguises itself as a deep show, when in reality it's just a bad excuse for showing an excessive amount of gore and nudity. I've recently had the realization that it's quite contradictory too - it seems to want to explain how bad it is with violence and abuse of stuff when it still wants to smack that in your face the whole ride. Despite knowing it's a bad show, I still love it just because of nostalgia bias. |
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| Obnoxious/stupid characters Too much gore and fanservice Incredibly melodramatic (which didn't make me sad because I hated the characters) Incest Waayyy more popular than in should be, more than likely because of the gore/fanservice Nice animation though, and the soundtrack is fantastic. I've grown to despise it more and more when I think about it, but there are plenty of worse things out there than this. |
Cupquake said: Solvite said: I can't figure it out. I'm a big boy, and I looked at the rating before I watched it. It clearly noted how vulgar it would be. I just don't get it. People can be so stingy. Ok here's your problem: people don't check the rating. Elfen Lied is on Netflix and that's where I watched it. It was fine for me, because I love horror movies. But seriously, imagine someone clicking on that and not knowing what they're getting into... That what I did, I pressed the random button on Anilinks and it popped up. The start was a little intense especially considering that it was one of my first anime knowing that it was an anime. It may not be the best but it's still one of my favorites out there |
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| The story was ok but nothing special, and it didn't make me feel sad because I hated the characters. The action was ok for 2004 and nice OST but I think its very overrated because of the popularity |
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Shinryuken said: More like underrated because of the popularity.The story was ok but nothing special, and it didn't make me feel sad because I hated the characters. The action was ok for 2004 and nice OST but I think its very overrated because of the popularity |
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| The nudity sorta bugged me. I felt like it distracted from the serious messages the story was telling. Still one of the more successfully emotional animes I've seen, even if it's far from flawless |
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| Amazed at the number of people who gave Elfen Lied negative reviews. Only have seen 1 so far that made sense. The rest were simply stupid. People, it is NOT an ecchi harem horror story. It's about alienation, unrequited love and the question of what it means to be human. Yes, it has a ton of nudity. It's not porn. The nudity represents innocence and vulnerability. The young Diclonius girls in the institute never had a chance to become human, so they became monsters instead. Yes, there is a ton of violence. But that's not the story - that's the background, which contrasts starkly against the love that Lucy feels for Kouta. It's not a "horror" story - there's no mystery to be solved, or suspense. Yes, a bunch of girls end up living in the house. That doesn't make it a "harem". Kouta isn't romantically interested in any of them, although he does respond to Nyuu's affections. The series is meant for mature audiences - if you can't handle the nudity and violence, at least understand why it's there. if you aren't mature or smart enough to understand symbolism in a story, go watch Mouse or something. |
 There are two types of anime - almost as good as Elfen Lied, and not as good as Elfen Lied. |
Burayan said: Amazed at the number of people who gave Elfen Lied negative reviews. Only have seen 1 so far that made sense. The rest were simply stupid. People, it is NOT an ecchi harem horror story. It's about alienation, unrequited love and the question of what it means to be human. Yes, it has a ton of nudity. It's not porn. The nudity represents innocence and vulnerability. The young Diclonius girls in the institute never had a chance to become human, so they became monsters instead. Yes, there is a ton of violence. But that's not the story - that's the background, which contrasts starkly against the love that Lucy feels for Kouta. It's not a "horror" story - there's no mystery to be solved, or suspense. Yes, a bunch of girls end up living in the house. That doesn't make it a "harem". Kouta isn't romantically interested in any of them, although he does respond to Nyuu's affections. The series is meant for mature audiences - if you can't handle the nudity and violence, at least understand why it's there. if you aren't mature or smart enough to understand symbolism in a story, go watch Mouse or something. It is not an ecchi harem horror story, but it's presented so excessively that it's quite a bother. Oh wait, look at your signature Burayan said: There are two types of anime - almost as good as Elfen Lied, and not as good as Elfen Lied. It's obvious that you view Elfen Lied above any other, even though you have yet to watch/read the other good ones. And you seem to be the type who won't accept an anime/manga better than Elfen Lied, because of your signature. Almost as good as Elfen Lied, or not as good as Elfen Lied. Do you understand what that means? That means that no other anime/manga shall become as good as, or even better than Elfen Lied for you, even though you have not read all the mangas out there yet. P.S. You don't understand what's a harem. The male doesn't have to be romantically interested with any girls for the show to be called harem, as long as the girls are. Meant for mature audience, huh? Nudity and gore is nothing special, at least it wasn't presented in the right way. |
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| Actually, Gunslinger Girl is probably my favorite anime show (maybe Azumanga Daioh, depending on my mood). The signature is meant to be tongue-in-cheek humor, it's a joke. Don't get so wrapped up in trivial stuff. The point is that people watch Elfen Lied expecting porn or they see nudity and squeal "OMG its porn!" and never understand the actual story. I think I _do_ understand what "harem" is, and while Elfen Lied can technically be called a harem show, it is not ecchi harem. I should have been clearer about that. If someone doesn't like it because it has too much nudity and violence, or they like it specifically because of that, then *shrug* your tastes are your tastes, everyone likes different things. But rating something you don't understand seems irresponsible. |
There are two types of anime - almost as good as Elfen Lied, and not as good as Elfen Lied. |
| It's been a long while since I've watched it, so I'll try my best to explain a bit as to why I disliked it. The gore, especially in the beginning I actually liked, it was interesting, a very good method to present how the character thinks very little of human life itself and won't hesitate to take any lives, not to mention being impressively ruthless. It does go a little over the top from time to time, but it's hardly the anime's weakest aspect (aside from the part that its aged poorly, but I digress). The nudity, in the opening I was fine with it, even found it to be a bit likable. Various instances I was fine with it, but it becomes very repetitive. I even became confused as to whether a large number of scenes were intended to be fanservice or not, rather than actually paying attention to the scene itself, which is something along the lines of a failure on the directing; those scenes like little else, were of little interest anyways. This will be the complaint you see the most, the characters, which is my second largest grievance. /Most/ have very little depth, are borderline unlikable, the protagonist is unlikable. He's for the most of it, the typical harem lead whose actions are abundantly filled with plot-convenience-stupidity, no to mention where would he be without his clueless but warmhearted nature. By plot convenience stupidity, here's an example in just the first episode, you find a naked female who is without the ability to speak and has literal horns growing out of her head, what would you do? Call 119? Take her to a hospital? And/or file a missing persons report? Or the correct answer, none of the above? And my main grievance, the lazy writing. In the first (or was it second, I don't remember anymore) episode alone, Lucy is conveniently knocked on her head, relieving her of her severe amnesia (of course, the best cure for memory loss, head bludgeoning, if only everyone beat Kid repeatedly in Ever17, everything would've been fine then), only to deal with the problem at hand and then conveniently have her amnesia triggered once more just in time to not be found out, that becomes a recurring formula too. It also has something along the lines of an identity crisis, does it want to be dark and ruthless plot, or a light-hearted comedy harem tale; now to be fair it's entirely possible to balance out the two and have an interesting result from it, but Elfen lied far from does it well. The anime isn't without its merits though, what was mentioned before in its favor and interesting concepts such as vector hand and the like are definitely positive aspects, but they are undoubtedly heavily out-weighed by the negatives. I hear the manga is better, but the anime left me without the desire to try it, perhaps I will eventually, eventually. |
BeryllusSep 20, 2013 6:29 PM
| Because immature teens love to talk shit. |
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PzKpfw_VI_Tiger said: Because immature teens love to talk shit. More like immature teens are the ones who defend this show. |
JonasTheJay said: PzKpfw_VI_Tiger said: Because immature teens love to talk shit. More like immature teens are the ones who defend this show. Naw, it's because immature teens like to shitpost and hate. If you don't like the show just move along, no need shit talk and ruin it for others. There were shows that I did not like but instead of expressing my personal oppinion on how I think that certain show is shit and how much I hate it I just stopped watching it and moved along instead of ruining mood for others. |
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| It seems to have been quite well received when it was first released, but nowadays it has become something of a proverbial punching bag for anime critics. I think it has something to do with the fact that, prior to it, there had been nothing quite like EL but nowadays violent, melodramatic shows are a dime a dozen (think Mirai Nikki). |
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