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| Story is messed up, I have so many questions and there are a lot of things that I don't understand. I hope the ending will be something reasonable but I guess it won't be. |
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tonyymmao said: i don't understand, anyone who completed over 100 titles should not like this, sure, is interesting i mean i certainly find it interesting but is just not "good" to give an example to what i mean, tell me, what is the over all objective exactly? and as a side note i certainly like how Inori is becoming more human. Her going Mirajane style from Fairy Tail is the highlight of the second half of this show. IDK, do you turn super saiyan after watching your 100th anime? I think this show is a freaking mess, so bad it's so entertaining |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
tonyymmao said: i don't understand, anyone who completed over 100 titles should not like this, sure, is interesting i mean i certainly find it interesting but is just not "good" to give an example to what i mean, tell me, what is the over all objective exactly? and as a side note i certainly like how Inori is becoming more human. Her going Mirajane style from Fairy Tail is the highlight of the second half of this show. I think "good" and "like" are irrelevant. I think it's bad but I like it. I might enjoy it but I won't give a good score. I don't know exactly the objectives of this show, but my objective was to enjoy it and I think I succeeded. I'm not sure I'm making sense though. |
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| Everything feels so forced. Now, who is the 'real' villain? GHQ, Gai or Mana? And it's sad that they decided now to put some personality into Inori. Did they had to make us wait that many episodes? ...And Arisa. She felt like Cornelia from Code Geass in this episode. |
deathxempress said: Everything feels so forced. Now, who is the 'real' villain? GHQ, Gai or Mana? And it's sad that they decided now to put some personality into Inori. Did they had to make us wait that many episodes? ...And Arisa. She felt like Cornelia from Code Geass in this episode. I don't think so. I liked Cornelia. Arisa is just a bitch. I'm willing to bet....Anyone who isn't sided with Shu, is an enemy. Sooo....There's your answer :D. |
Ahri said: deathxempress said: Everything feels so forced. Now, who is the 'real' villain? GHQ, Gai or Mana? And it's sad that they decided now to put some personality into Inori. Did they had to make us wait that many episodes? ...And Arisa. She felt like Cornelia from Code Geass in this episode. I don't think so. I liked Cornelia. Arisa is just a bitch. I'm willing to bet....Anyone who isn't sided with Shu, is an enemy. Sooo....There's your answer :D. I pretty much agree. I kind of liked Cornelia as well, but Arisa is a fucking bitch that deserves to die. IDK why the hell did they decide to bring gai back?? |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
deathxempress said: Everything feels so forced. Now, who is the 'real' villain? GHQ, Gai or Mana? And it's sad that they decided now to put some personality into Inori. Did they had to make us wait that many episodes? ...And Arisa. She felt like Cornelia from Code Geass in this episode. I think a Milly Ashford gone horribly wrong is a better comparasion. I agree about Inori, it would have been better to see this development in her character 5 episodes ago, following Gai's death. Or even better 10 episodes ago. The writers keep throwing more and more stuff into the mix, resulting in an even greater mess of a story. This is the time where the story should become more focused, drawing the various elements together into a focused conclusion, that is both interesting and compelling. Cowboy Bebop certainly did this. Code Geass Season 1 did this, leading to a Cliffhanger that set up the Second season. I just do not see this happening with GC. |
| Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?" Watcman: "One who fears the dark." "And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction. "Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be." |
Articman said: deathxempress said: Everything feels so forced. Now, who is the 'real' villain? GHQ, Gai or Mana? And it's sad that they decided now to put some personality into Inori. Did they had to make us wait that many episodes? ...And Arisa. She felt like Cornelia from Code Geass in this episode. I think a Milly Ashford gone horribly wrong is a better comparasion. I agree about Inori, it would have been better to see this development in her character 5 episodes ago, following Gai's death. Or even better 10 episodes ago. The writers keep throwing more and more stuff into the mix, resulting in an even greater mess of a story. This is the time where the story should become more focused, drawing the various elements together into a focused conclusion, that is both interesting and compelling. Cowboy Bebop certainly did this. Code Geass Season 1 did this, leading to a Cliffhanger that set up the Second season. I just do not see this happening with GC. Holy shit... I actually forgot she was in code geass, you are absolutely right. They are SO similar, MORE CODE GEASS COMPARSION!!! |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
KorusNarek said: We need Kamijou Touma with his pimp hand strong in this anime. This. |
| And watch him die infected by the virus or gunned down by a mecha. Yea that'll work *rolls eyes* |
Darklight0303 said: And watch him die infected by the virus or gunned down by a mecha. Yea that'll work *rolls eyes* If they do end up killing Shu, i hope they kill off Inori as well. Not because i dislike her, because i love both Shu and Inori, but it just wouldn't feel right to have one living and the other die. |
Ahri said: Darklight0303 said: And watch him die infected by the virus or gunned down by a mecha. Yea that'll work *rolls eyes* If they do end up killing Shu, i hope they kill off Inori as well. Not because i dislike her, because i love both Shu and Inori, but it just wouldn't feel right to have one living and the other die. I am pretty sure he was talking about Kamijou Touma |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| What GodlyKyon said o/ |
Darklight0303 said: What GodlyKyon said o/ My bad =P, Touma would get destroyed by mecha no doubt, but i'd like to think he'd cancel out the virus ;D |
| Inori is really becoming a lustful and violent girl like Mana was, without her actually noticing until shortly after she does something. Her connection to Mana must be the reason why GHQ is targeting her. Her new form was pretty damn vicious, yet she got caught in the end. The ending shows Shu being determined, but what can he do without his power? Try to talk sense into Gai? |
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Onyxthegreat said: Inori is really becoming a lustful and violent girl like Mana was, without her actually noticing until shortly after she does something. Her connection to Mana must be the reason why GHQ is targeting her. Her new form was pretty damn vicious, yet she got caught in the end. The ending shows Shu being determined, but what can he do without his power? Try to talk sense into Gai? Pretty sure she was taken OVER by mana... She had a character!? Ahri said: Darklight0303 said: What GodlyKyon said o/ My bad =P, Touma would get destroyed by mecha no doubt, but i'd like to think he'd cancel out the virus ;D Good example of a protagonist in the right setting |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| lol, this is becoming so absurd that it's actually entertaining, now I seriously want to know how it ends despite being so bad. |
GodlyKyon said: to be the villain.....i thought that was obvious at this pointIDK why the hell did they decide to bring gai back?? |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: GodlyKyon said: to be the villain.....i thought that was obvious at this pointIDK why the hell did they decide to bring gai back?? I meant it was a terrible choice. And illogical on the part of the Keido, more importantly, HOW? There's already like what? 4 villains? Brow Void guy, Keido, GHQ, Mana, wtf... |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
TeaLover said: KorusNarek said: We need Kamijou Touma with his pimp hand strong in this anime. This. I concur. |
| No matter the case, I just don't see this series ending well. GodlyKyon said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: GodlyKyon said: to be the villain.....i thought that was obvious at this pointIDK why the hell did they decide to bring gai back?? I meant it was a terrible choice. And illogical on the part of the Keido, more importantly, HOW? There's already like what? 4 villains? Brow Void guy, Keido, GHQ, Mana, wtf... BLACK MAGIC. |
GodlyKyon said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: GodlyKyon said: to be the villain.....i thought that was obvious at this pointIDK why the hell did they decide to bring gai back?? I meant it was a terrible choice. And illogical on the part of the Keido, more importantly, HOW? There's already like what? 4 villains? Brow Void guy, Keido, GHQ, Mana, wtf... cloning? maybe with same way they did to mana >>> inori.. now they did gai to >> white hair gai.. keido and GHQ is yuu puppet.. and yuu is a da'at representative.. (and in this episode, they explainde what da'at is right) and mana is.. uum.. i don't know.. so i think the main villain is this da'at something organization |
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| More religious references, Da'at now seriously? |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| ... Wow, so, they followed up a relatively good episode with a really boring / crappy one. GREAT -_-" At least I'm caught up now ... zzz Gai uses Voids at will and kills the students, whatever and then DARYL WHY ARE YOU SO LAME NOW. YOU KILLED YOUR STUPID PARENTS. STOP CARING ABOUT TSUGUMI ... SERIOUSLY -_-" Arisa kills her own grandfather ... well I guess he was willing to kill her too but ... uhm, OK. She's sticking by Gai now ... along with that other guy her "partner" I guess o_O WTF was the ending ... ugh Inori, why are you so freaking annoying? More singing? That can magically carry super far away even though she's practically whispering? Then she just suddenly goes crazy, changes appearances and has super strong powers including making Shu go to bed by tapping his head? Are you freaking kidding me right now? Was this episode supposed to make us "feel" for her or something, because I just hate her more than ever. Jeez, why can't you let Mana take over and be LESS ANNOYING?! OTL Yea, can't say I'm really pleased with this episode ... *sigh* |
KaitoDash said: tonyymmao said: i don't understand, anyone who completed over 100 titles should not like this, sure, is interesting i mean i certainly find it interesting but is just not "good" to give an example to what i mean, tell me, what is the over all objective exactly?. I think "good" and "like" are irrelevant. I think it's bad but I like it. I might enjoy it but I won't give a good score. I don't know exactly the objectives of this show, but my objective was to enjoy it and I think I succeeded. I'm not sure I'm making sense though. don't worry, ur making perfect sense. that's why i metioned it was interesting. however i don't think u can enjoy an anime without finding it interesting, well, except for comedy anime. EvianBubble said: ... Was this episode supposed to make us "feel" for her or something, because I just hate her more than ever. Jeez, why can't you let Mana take over and be LESS ANNOYING?! OTL Yea, can't say I'm really pleased with this episode ... *sigh* how can u say that, that's heartless even if u go by objective view standards for this show |
wakka9ca said:"The endless debate between fans and haters... is totaly pointless"  |
tonyymmao said: how can u say that, that's heartless even if u go by objective view standards for this show Simple. He's not being objective. At all. |
hudang said: GodlyKyon said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: GodlyKyon said: to be the villain.....i thought that was obvious at this pointIDK why the hell did they decide to bring gai back?? I meant it was a terrible choice. And illogical on the part of the Keido, more importantly, HOW? There's already like what? 4 villains? Brow Void guy, Keido, GHQ, Mana, wtf... cloning? maybe with same way they did to mana >>> inori.. now they did gai to >> white hair gai.. keido and GHQ is yuu puppet.. and yuu is a da'at representative.. (and in this episode, they explainde what da'at is right) and mana is.. uum.. i don't know.. so i think the main villain is this da'at something organization Creating Inori made sense, as they needed a New body for Mana to inhabit. Also, Inori was meant as a means of communication with the Sleeping Mana. According to Keido. Gai doesn't make sense. Unless they needed him to seize the Void Genome from Shu. But, that comes across as trying to lower the River, instead of raising the bridge. One reason that bringing back Gai makes sense is his devotion to Mana. Bringing back a Gai committed to Mana's resurrection, does make sense. Still, how could they be certain that the Reborn Gai wouldn't turn agaisnt them? Unless they had some means of controling his mind, altering his personality during his rebirth. Or could be certain that some other person or power would influence the reborn Gai into the correct direction. Yuu/Daath/Eyebrows could be this influence. The Apocalypse Virus could be as well. We just don't know at this time. And I suspect we won't ever get an satisfactory explianation concerning this. |
| Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?" Watcman: "One who fears the dark." "And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction. "Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be." |
| Lol with Gai being Archer Class.. hahahahaha |
"Your taste is shit cause you like what I hate. Believe me I have 1000 cartoons that I rated with less than 5."  |
| that's just one of his sins. There are plenty more. |
myusername said: TeaLover said: KorusNarek said: We need Kamijou Touma with his pimp hand strong in this anime. This. I concur. +1 |
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| That joke is already ancient =_= and if you are being serious then you have no idea about matching a character to a setting. The first key parameter. DON'T PUT THEM IN A SERIES THAT WILL GET HIM KILLED 100% |
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| That edit is scary instead of funny. |
| Hmm... over 400 this episode... Soon this series will reach over 9000 |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| Anyone wondering how Kenji Kido was at the controls of the Luekocytes? The last we saw of him was in episode 10, right before Keido sprung his trap, releasing the Apocalypse Virus. I guess we now know how GHQ knew where to fire the Luekocyte at the end of episode 5. When Segai was inspired to try to turn Shu in episode 4. I wouldn't be suprised if he had the same thought concerning Kenji. It would explain more then a few things, if Kenji had turned traitor, becoming GHQ's spy within Funeral Parlour. |
| Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?" Watcman: "One who fears the dark." "And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction. "Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be." |
Articman said: Anyone wondering how Kenji Kido was at the controls of the Luekocytes? The last we saw of him was in episode 10, right before Keido sprung his trap, releasing the Apocalypse Virus. I guess we now know how GHQ knew where to fire the Luekocyte at the end of episode 5. When Segai was inspired to try to turn Shu in episode 4. I wouldn't be suprised if he had the same thought concerning Kenji. It would explain more then a few things, if Kenji had turned traitor, becoming GHQ's spy within Funeral Parlour. I have no idea why the hell did Gai even want him or almost anything about him. IDK, I doubt we will get an answer of any sort... |
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GodlyKyon said: Articman said: Anyone wondering how Kenji Kido was at the controls of the Luekocytes? The last we saw of him was in episode 10, right before Keido sprung his trap, releasing the Apocalypse Virus. I guess we now know how GHQ knew where to fire the Luekocyte at the end of episode 5. When Segai was inspired to try to turn Shu in episode 4. I wouldn't be suprised if he had the same thought concerning Kenji. It would explain more then a few things, if Kenji had turned traitor, becoming GHQ's spy within Funeral Parlour. I have no idea why the hell did Gai even want him or almost anything about him. IDK, I doubt we will get an answer of any sort... Kenji's own comments about Gai in episode 5, indicated that he knew Gai better then most within Funeral Parlour. Also, Gai knew what Kenji's Void was, something that he could have know, only if he had know Kenji before he was captured. While it has not been definitively stated whether or not Kenji was a member of Funeral Parlour in the past. Gai refered to him in the announcement as a Comrade. Although, Gai was also refering to Shu at that time as well. Gai needed both Kenji's Void and the Void Genome that Shu possessed to carry out his plans. |
| Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?" Watcman: "One who fears the dark." "And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction. "Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be." |
| Aw gramps. I almost laughed when you got bat shit crazy as well. But people can justify that with the samurai spirit (which is just as non-sensical). I wonder what further roles oh my shoe will play in this hell fest Tokyo. Not that I bother to mention any more ridicule I have with the show but, are we assuming now that Inori know how to bandage an arm wound? There's no way a normal person would have the equipment and knowledge to stop that insane cut and be relatively fine afterwards (albeit a bit mindfucked). |
Articman said: hudang said: GodlyKyon said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: GodlyKyon said: to be the villain.....i thought that was obvious at this pointIDK why the hell did they decide to bring gai back?? I meant it was a terrible choice. And illogical on the part of the Keido, more importantly, HOW? There's already like what? 4 villains? Brow Void guy, Keido, GHQ, Mana, wtf... cloning? maybe with same way they did to mana >>> inori.. now they did gai to >> white hair gai.. keido and GHQ is yuu puppet.. and yuu is a da'at representative.. (and in this episode, they explainde what da'at is right) and mana is.. uum.. i don't know.. so i think the main villain is this da'at something organization Creating Inori made sense, as they needed a New body for Mana to inhabit. Also, Inori was meant as a means of communication with the Sleeping Mana. According to Keido. Gai doesn't make sense. Unless they needed him to seize the Void Genome from Shu. But, that comes across as trying to lower the River, instead of raising the bridge. One reason that bringing back Gai makes sense is his devotion to Mana. Bringing back a Gai committed to Mana's resurrection, does make sense. Still, how could they be certain that the Reborn Gai wouldn't turn agaisnt them? Unless they had some means of controling his mind, altering his personality during his rebirth. Or could be certain that some other person or power would influence the reborn Gai into the correct direction. Yuu/Daath/Eyebrows could be this influence. The Apocalypse Virus could be as well. We just don't know at this time. And I suspect we won't ever get an satisfactory explianation concerning this. I think his right eye they transplanted in is helping controlling his mind. I could be wrong though. Is anyone else wondering what Gai wanted to do with the stone that caused the Apocalyptic virus? Was he gonna destroy it? Or what? I'm curious on how it would of turned out if Gai got his hands on the stone first. I remember how Shu always kept asking him what he fights for and why but he would just redirect the conversation. He said to Arisa's grandfather he fights to be able to hold a women (Mana) in his arms again but maybe it's more. He's still a mysterious character and I hope they explain more about him soon. |
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| Damn, that was one badass grandfather; I am hoping Arisa dies at some point. There's pretty much something to make you hate every character in the show. I want to know what happens next, me and everyone else. D: |
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Jlopes3 said: I'm sure all the inconsistencies and logical fallacies have been pointed out already, so all I have to say is bad writing is bad and it was getting a little bit better too.... Out of sheer scientific curiosity. How would you have done it better? |
Darklight0303 said: Jlopes3 said: I'm sure all the inconsistencies and logical fallacies have been pointed out already, so all I have to say is bad writing is bad and it was getting a little bit better too.... Out of sheer scientific curiosity. How would you have done it better? I would have given Inori a personality for starters. |
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| Bad Gai!!! |
| Inori has gone insane. o_o Guessing Gai wants her for the song like at the end of last series? Looking forward to seeing how Shu brings this back, assuming he will? |
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