| >Believing Crunchyroll lies. Guys, please. OP, would you have the source on that? And when I mean source it's the original japland article. I wanna see what exactly they considered as base material for this numbers since it's a pretty retarded notion trying to make a pattern out of such a diverse industry. a 30 minute episode of a TV anime in 2010 that totaled 11,000,000 yen (about US $145,214 at the current exchange rate) consisted of the following expenses "a" what? I can't take this information seriously if I don't know what it's about. e.g: Original work - 50,000 yen ($660) The cheapest from all? As if. Some really successful VN/LN/manga are way more expensive than that for the studio to acquire the rights, not to mention when it's already owned by another stronghold like Kadokawa. Original Art - 1.5 million yen ($19,801) What's with the discrepancy between them?? Direction - 500,000 yen ($6,600) Still varies A LOT. Paying Anno, Urubutcher, Miyazaki, etc to direct you stuff isn't the same of getting a new guy. Animation - 1.1 million yen ($14,521) Art (backgrounds) - 1.2 million yen ($15,841) Photography - 700,000 yen ($9,240) This looks like SHAFT or KyoAni. |
| I know its expensive but is just too expensive... ._. |
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| $150,000 per episode is a pretty commonly quoted figure, but 5,000 frames per episode? That seems much too small even considering the relatively low frame rates used in anime. Most shows are animated "on the threes" meaning each frame is duplicated three times. Nearly everyone shoots at 24 fps these days, so there are eight unique frames per second. Excluding the OP and ED leaves us with about 20 minutes of new material per episode, or 1,200 seconds. That works out to nearly 10,000 unique frames per episode. I also didn't see an item for music. Perhaps it's included in the "sound" category? I've wondered for a while now what composers are paid for a complete score. |
| Wait Wait, so you're telling me that over 3 terabyte Bluray anime I downloaded *piracy* are...ccan't find words to describe my feelings!! argg |
| This is why the manga you want animated isn't being adapted. If they think it's not gonna earn any money, they don't make it. |
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SeijiSensei said: $150,000 per episode is a pretty commonly quoted figure, but 5,000 frames per episode? That seems much too small even considering the relatively low frame rates used in anime. Most shows are animated "on the threes" meaning each frame is duplicated three times. Nearly everyone shoots at 24 fps these days, so there are eight unique frames per second. Excluding the OP and ED leaves us with about 20 minutes of new material per episode, or 1,200 seconds. That works out to nearly 10,000 unique frames per episode. I also didn't see an item for music. Perhaps it's included in the "sound" category? I've wondered for a while now what composers are paid for a complete score. In-Between frames arent included here. |
TapuTapuuSep 17, 2014 5:16 PM
| 150k seems low. I mean, even if it has a ridiculous margin of 100% (it doesn't), high quality anime can really cost a ton: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1300298569/under-the-dog |
| So this is why the best of anime never get a season 2,,, Budget.... -_- |
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| Pocket change |
| That's seems cheaper than i thought for on episode but it's too much for one season. Fate/Zero and Ghost in the Shell's cost must have been off the roof. |
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Yohimo_asakura said: In-Between frames arent included here. And I once again ask for source. |
| So with the budget of a Pixar movie one could make a thousand anime episodes. |
| Good thing a nice portion of you don't help at all and would rather steal 100 shows than pay for 1. You're disgusting. |
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| noooooooo, air gear season 2 T-T |
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SeijiSensei said: Excluding the OP and ED leaves us with about 20 minutes of new material per episode, or 1,200 seconds. That works out to nearly 10,000 unique frames per episode. That's assuming that TV anime don't make use of background pans and flapping mouths. That's something they always do, even in important episodes. You also have to take into account scenes that use multiple layers for different characters or effects. |
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Rinth said: 150k seems low. I mean, even if it has a ridiculous margin of 100% (it doesn't), high quality anime can really cost a ton: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1300298569/under-the-dog these costs include distribution. derp |
xbobx said: Yohimo_asakura said: In-Between frames arent included here. And I once again ask for source. that's only logic. You can't make 22 min anime with 5000 frames (that would be <4 frames per second , even if you exclude moments when nothing moves, the number of frames are still too small). And what the statistic here defines are main animation frames, based on such logic. You should find source for yourself, if you really need it, actually, since I personally dont need any of it, because I think what I say is obvious. |
TapuTapuuSep 18, 2014 6:41 AM
Yohimo_asakura said: xbobx said: And I once again ask for source. that's only logic. You can't make 22 min anime with 5000 frames (that would be <4 frames per second , even if you exclude moments when nothing moves, the number of frames are still too small). And what the statistic here defines are main animation frames, based on such logic. You should find source for yourself, if you really need it, actually, since I personally dont need any of it, because I think what I say is obvious. "every animu is the same" "what I say is obvious" Yeaa m8, right. Completely right. Just like animation styles differ from one studio to another, the amount of static frames and/or the use of in-betweens while keeping the same fps can also be completely different. Not to mention that when they mix 3DCGI with classic 2D it can go over the statistic in a matter of seconds. You said a supposed fact "In-Between frames arent included here." without sauce that's just you spouting bullshit, like the OP is just some random numbers from a random animu complied together. If you want people to believe what you're presenting, the first thing to do is show believable canon arguments or offer a strong source. I won't spend my time scavenging for something OP should've already linked here in the first place. Instead, I'll just ignore it and call it bullshit. |
laldonkaments said: I wonder how much that Monogatari style costs... Static screens were economic enough, tho xD |
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| 145K? You can animate all of Toei's works with that! :P How much does CGI-ing cost? Both cheap Beraerk/FateZero CGI and Final-Fantasy-CGI? |
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| Well if you compare this to live TV: They used to pay each actor in Friends $1 million an episode. So including production costs, that's like $7 million total for 30 minutes of crappy boring comedy... |
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hybreezy said: LoGH had 100k? What the hell? |
hybreezy said: >>>/m/ Thank you, based fgts. GITS reaching 300K. Blame all dat heavy 3DCGI. Most surprisingly is that they managed to compensate it all with merchandise sales. Strong is the power of a fanbase. kokkoderrisch said: LoGH had 100k? What the hell? 80's static animation. Easy to produce, no real requirement of special equipment, music records used to be cheaper and most of them are originals, the cast wasn't that well known yet and the original story was probably bought by a really cheap price. (But yea, I'd expect a bit more... Maybe it's inflation correction) |
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