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Sep 17, 2011 5:01 AM
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It was not in the first season though. Why?
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Sep 17, 2011 9:06 AM
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probably mistake , i have read novel and there's no any harem in it , it should be romance instead.
Sep 17, 2011 9:15 AM
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Not to mention "Comedy and Super Power." The first season was tagged as "Mystery, Romance, Supernatural" so why the changes?
Sep 17, 2011 7:10 PM
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There is certain group called 'Araragi Harem', consist of Tsun but no-dere Hitagi, Final Boss Nadekho, Wifu Shinobu, nyan nyan Hanekawa, bro-con fire sisters, talk-talk-talk Mayoi and pervert Suruga. However, since Ararararagi already chose her girl friend, this so called 'harem' is already vague in terms of existence.

However, since Araragi is siscon, fire sisters will... (*cough)
Oct 17, 2011 10:34 PM
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i don't really know why. unless koyomi or one of the fire sisters develop a sibling complex then sure.
but he already chose senjougahara as his girlfriend and hes faithfull to her. (if he wasn't u should know what happens lol) so that makes the "harem" tag kinda placed wrong.
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Oct 18, 2011 2:23 AM
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Steins;Gate is more harem than this.
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ringoo4 said:
However, since Ararararagi already chose her girl friend, this so called 'harem' is already vague in terms of existence.
I don't think so, if that's the truth then most anime(s) with Harem tag will be removed (except for those HAREM endings, eg. shuffle).
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Nov 2, 2011 7:36 AM
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I just hope romance will remain in there, if it needs to be harem, don't mind but if it's gonna be only harem without romance i'm gonna pass on this one :P
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Nov 5, 2011 8:39 AM
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Well, the first season is harem afterall
Nov 7, 2011 5:52 AM
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ringoo4 said:
There is certain group called 'Araragi Harem', consist of Tsun but no-dere Hitagi, Final Boss Nadekho, Wifu Shinobu, nyan nyan Hanekawa, bro-con fire sisters, talk-talk-talk Mayoi and pervert Suruga. However, since Ararararagi already chose her girl friend, this so called 'harem' is already vague in terms of existence.

However, since Araragi is siscon, fire sisters will... (*cough)


suruga can't really be counted as harem since she's a lesbo
Nov 12, 2011 2:54 AM

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Cashdaxxx said:
ringoo4 said:
However, since Ararararagi already chose her girl friend, this so called 'harem' is already vague in terms of existence.
I don't think so, if that's the truth then most anime(s) with Harem tag will be removed (except for those HAREM endings, eg. shuffle).
'vague'. Even from the start, Araragi's only possible choice of girl friend was Shenjougahara Hitagi. It already lost its merit as being Harem, since Harem usually comes from protagonist who is indecisive, ordinary and not choosing any heroine from the start.
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ringoo4 said:
Cashdaxxx said:
ringoo4 said:
However, since Ararararagi already chose her girl friend, this so called 'harem' is already vague in terms of existence.
I don't think so, if that's the truth then most anime(s) with Harem tag will be removed (except for those HAREM endings, eg. shuffle).
'vague'. Even from the start, Araragi's only possible choice of girl friend was Shenjougahara Hitagi. It already lost its merit as being Harem, since Harem usually comes from protagonist who is indecisive, ordinary and not choosing any heroine from the start.
Now I got the point. Thanks.
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Nov 23, 2011 9:04 PM

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Karhu said:
Steins;Gate is more harem than this.


Rukako is still a guy, its not a harem :P
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Nov 23, 2011 9:10 PM

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zansabarshadow said:
Karhu said:
Steins;Gate is more harem than this.


Rukako is still a guy, its not a harem :P
Are you saying you can't have guys in your harem?
Nov 27, 2011 1:14 PM

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I like how nobody thought of reporting this in the anime modifications thread :|

Anyway, removed harem from the anime and the manga.
Nov 29, 2011 5:38 AM

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kuroshiroi said:
I like how nobody thought of reporting this in the anime modifications thread :|

Anyway, removed harem from the anime and the manga.


Wait that's how you change stuff like that? Why the two systems?
Nov 29, 2011 5:41 AM

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harem or not, i still want to watch it
Dec 3, 2011 5:16 AM

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kuroshiroi said:
I like how nobody thought of reporting this in the anime modifications thread :|

Anyway, removed harem from the anime and the manga.
Even if we will, we can't. There's no "genre" option in the "Edit Anime Information".
EDIT: ow okay, it's on the Forums.
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Dec 7, 2011 9:54 AM

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Technically, it is a harem... Just because he's not wanting to do every single girl in his harem, it's still a harem. Hell, even a lesbian has practically fallen for him. Being that there are only two, no... three if you count Hitagi's dad... male characters and the rest of them are female: it's a harem.
Dec 15, 2011 6:32 AM

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hmmm, hopefully it should still be good even though the tag has been taken down.
Dec 25, 2011 12:15 AM

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Cashdaxxx said:
ringoo4 said:
However, since Ararararagi already chose her girl friend, this so called 'harem' is already vague in terms of existence.
I don't think so, if that's the truth then most anime(s) with Harem tag will be removed (except for those HAREM endings, eg. shuffle).


Shuffle had a chosen girl ending.
Dec 25, 2011 8:45 AM

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highfyrebright said:
Cashdaxxx said:
ringoo4 said:
However, since Ararararagi already chose her girl friend, this so called 'harem' is already vague in terms of existence.
I don't think so, if that's the truth then most anime(s) with Harem tag will be removed (except for those HAREM endings, eg. shuffle).


Shuffle had a chosen girl ending.
Yeah, with the whole pack beside him.
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Dec 27, 2011 12:05 PM

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icantfeelmyarms said:
Technically, it is a harem... Just because he's not wanting to do every single girl in his harem, it's still a harem. Hell, even a lesbian has practically fallen for him. Being that there are only two, no... three if you count Hitagi's dad... male characters and the rest of them are female: it's a harem.


I don't really see this as a harem as much as it's two conflicting intertwined love triangles. Yes, Lesbo Kanbaru offered herself to Koyomi, but it was merely a pretense for Koyomi to give up on Hitagi so Kanbaru could be with her instead. Later in the same episode, Kanbaru's true desires showed itself as her demon form tried to eviscerate Koyomi.

Tsubasa, Koyomi, and Hitagi is the classic love triangle.

Sengoku and Mayoi seem to be merely Imouto types. Though you could argue that Sengoku does seem to harbor some affection towards Koyomi.

I'm not sure what Shinobu is. It seems she's merely the remaining remnant of a former vampire that is merely a tool for Koyomi.

See, I'd rather look at it that way then just saying "yep, it's a harem". Because when you think of harems you think of ecchi comedies where the stupid protagonist plays dumb while 5/6 cliched women chase him around chanting "I will not lose".
Dec 28, 2011 12:37 AM

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highfyrebright said:
Cashdaxxx said:
ringoo4 said:
However, since Ararararagi already chose her girl friend, this so called 'harem' is already vague in terms of existence.
I don't think so, if that's the truth then most anime(s) with Harem tag will be removed (except for those HAREM endings, eg. shuffle).


Shuffle had a chosen girl ending.
The thing important is 'from the start'. Araragi had Senjougahara as girl friend since episode 5. When the word 'Araragi Harem' itself is mentioned in the novel as a word, it is still 'imaginary' in terms of existence.

I don't deny characters have sorta harem relationship, having a single vampire siscon boy and bunch other girls around. The problem is, you won't be able to see the things you normally expect from regular harem from other series. That's the thing.
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Dec 28, 2011 12:46 AM

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Could be a mistake... but I mean, he IS surrounded by girls. Whether there are romantic innuendos for each of the heroines is the real question.

Jan 2, 2012 6:04 PM

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I'm pretty sure the conversation between Koyomi and Black Hanekawa in ep15 about the vampire's "charm" took a shot at Bake being a harem.
Jan 4, 2012 12:08 AM

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Karhu said:
Steins;Gate is more harem than this.
Jan 8, 2012 7:17 AM

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Well now, thanks to this topic, every show I watch makes me think of harems. Every. Single. One.
Jan 8, 2012 11:37 AM

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Deconstruction of the harem genre.

But in all seriousness, I think
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>Bakemonogatari
>not a harem


Just because the MC actually picks a girl, doesn't stop it from being a show about a guy lusted after by several chicks.


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ringoo4 said:

I don't deny characters have sorta harem relationship, having a single vampire siscon boy and bunch other girls around. The problem is, you won't be able to see the things you normally expect from regular harem from other series. That's the thing.


have got the right idea. Bakemonogatari is a harem that's just a bit different from most other harems you see.
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Bakemonogatari had a harem ending. If anything, the harem tag should be moved from Nise to Bake.


Ugh, people, stop using harem ending the phrase!

There's a difference betweeen "harem ending" and "no decision" ending, and Bakemonogatari was CERTAINLY not a harem end
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Jan 11, 2012 12:30 AM

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^Counter this.

edited due to errr.. derp.
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Cashdaxxx said:
http://static.zerochan.net/full/47/16/270847.jpg

^Counter this.


For shame, a direct link. Nise is playing up the lolis for sure though.
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I'd consider it borderline Harem, considering more or less every female character is/have been after araragi. I just don't think it's explicitly developed enough to have the tag though. Also, Kanbaru is magic.
Feb 26, 2012 3:44 PM
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This isn't a traditional Harem since it's deeper than most when it comes to romance, but it still should be classified as one due to the number of lovers. Hitagi seems to be the winner (I haven't read far enough in the novels). Sengoku and Tsubasa have loved Koyomi since before Bakemonogatari. That's 3 main lovers. Then there's the supporting Harem that includes Shinobu (read it on baka-tsuki or wait for the movie if you want to understand her willingness), Mayoi (she likes to be sexually harassed, but it's much less romantic and much more of being her only friend), Suruga who has no problems doing things to Koyomi (but in love with Hitagi. She knows the most about the harem), Karen (newest episode HEAVILY implies it). Harem. It wasn't done on an ecchi in Bakemongatari compared to Nise though (Karen and Shinobu).

Aside from all that, just looking at how many Harem series that aren't tagged as Harem on this website it doesn't actually matter. It seems like some people only consider it Harem if the girls physically fight over the person or have a Shana tsundere.
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Cashdaxxx said:
ringoo4 said:
However, since Ararararagi already chose her girl friend, this so called 'harem' is already vague in terms of existence.
I don't think so, if that's the truth then most anime(s) with Harem tag will be removed (except for those HAREM endings, eg. shuffle).


the shuffle anime didnt really have a harem ending though lol
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Harem tag needs to be put back in.

He's like the only guy in the series. The other two guys are middle-aged, play a supporting role, and have left the series already.

All the girls clearly have feelings for him. Even his sisters.

To not call it a harem is misleading.
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Incest tag needs to be put in.
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Wincest tag, dat sleazy bastard stole both his sisters first kisses, now he should marry them both lol

Actually most anime harems aren't harems really, Zero no Tsukaima, Nyan Koi, Mahouka or OreImo for example, people call it harems but there is always main girl and other girls have no chance no matter what fanbase think. Even canonical harem Infinite Stratos isn't harem for that matter, because there is Houki and he doesn't even understand that he has harem and doesn't love any of them.
High School DxD - Rias, Date A Live - Tohka, Mayo Chiki - Subaru, all harems I know have canon love interest more or less. It depends on what couple do you like, if it's gahara x araragi then you don't like when someone calls it harem, and if you ship other couple then you like to call it harem, it's simple lol
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Cashdax said:
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'vague'. Even from the start, Araragi's only possible choice of girl friend was Shenjougahara Hitagi. It already lost its merit as being Harem, since Harem usually comes from protagonist who is indecisive, ordinary and not choosing any heroine from the start.
Now I got the point. Thanks.


I see a point with the Harem Tag... As Araragi said in Episode 9 to Hajiguji

Im dating Senjougahara and I love Hanekawa, but I Plan to marry you.
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Well harem tag has been removed. Thanks to all MAL modmins

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