| We all know general perception on fictional media can change over time. Lots of stuff that is poorly received or divisive when it first comes out eventually can achieve "cult status", which means people revisit it later and finds out it holds up surprisingly well and may even have been ahead of its era. I think about Popee the Performer for example, a bad CGI show which was often a meme in the early days of online anime communities, but as time passed people started to see such cheap animation as endearing considering the time it came out, and started to focus on other aspects of it, like how funny it truly was or how amazing Wakako Masuda's character designs actually were. Hell, even Toby Fox, creator of Undertale and Deltarune, considers himself a fan of it. What are some other examples of this you know about? |
AtromentinaJul 28, 7:46 AM
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| @JoeChip Nice to see Nagao Takena mentioned because I always genuinely thought anything by him is a misunderstood work of art. |
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| Nichijou flopped really badly when it came out now it's a trend to glaze it |
| I went through my entire list and could't really find an examlpe like that. I've heard that the Ghost in the Shell movie was originally a massive flop or smth like that. |
| "Those words are meant for those that dare defy god's final warning... An epigraph of their stubbornness" - Maho Hiyajo (Steins;Gate 0)    |
Atromentina said: We all know general perception on fictional media can change over time. Lots of stuff that is poorly received or divisive when it first comes out eventually can achieve "cult status", which means people revisit it later and finds out it holds up surprisingly well and may even have been ahead of its era. I think about Popee the Performer for example, a bad CGI show which was often a meme in the early days of online anime communities, but as time passed people started to see such cheap animation as endearing considering the time it came out, and started to focus on other aspects of it, like how funny it truly was or how amazing Wakako Masuda's character designs actually were. Hell, even Toby Fox, creator of Undertale and Deltarune, considers himself a fan of it. What are some other examples of this you know about? A perfect example of "cult status" is like "Agent AIKa" where a fan would end up buying the series just to collect on Japanese Laserdisc, multiple DVD volume releases, the Remastered edition, Limited Edition collector's sets that came with a real pair of cheap nylon white panties with a tiny pink bow at the top as some obscure swag, and even random niche stuff like "Tobimono Girls" a Japanese collector’s print issue of Noriyasu Yamauchi’s illustration art, even go to doujinshi convention buying up fanfiction of the franchise, etc... Where a fan would even go out of their way to go to a convention half way across Japan just to get Noriyasu Yamauchi to sign a copy of one of their DVD volumes or even their illustrated Art book. Cult status implies that something once written off as trashy, niche, or forgettable ends up developing a loyal fanbase that digs way deeper than surface-level reception. What was once mocked for being excessive or lowbrow suddenly gets appreciated for how bold, unfiltered, or stylistically unique it was. People come back around and go, “Wait… this had a vibe”, and next thing you know, there’s merch, retrospectives, and fan art popping up decades later. "Agent AIKa" used insane camera angles and unapologetic fanservice flooded with obnoxious amounts of gratuitous panty shots that would beyond overwhelm some modern casual consumer. Even if "Agent AIKa" might’ve been still meme-worthy back in the day, but now it stands as this weird, iconic time capsule of late-90s anime excess, and loyal fans who have followed the franchise love it for exactly that. |
ColourWheelJul 28, 11:09 AM
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| I think Konosuba has already reached cult status in the anime community. |
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Atromentina said:
We all know general perception on fictional media can change over time. Lots of stuff that is poorly received or divisive when it first comes out eventually can achieve "cult status", which means people revisit it later and finds out it holds up surprisingly well and may even have been ahead of its era.
I think about Popee the Performer for example, a bad CGI show which was often a meme in the early days of online anime communities, but as time passed people started to see such cheap animation as endearing considering the time it came out, and started to focus on other aspects of it, like how funny it truly was or how amazing Wakako Masuda's character designs actually were. Hell, even Toby Fox, creator of Undertale and Deltarune, considers himself a fan of it.
What are some other examples of this you know about?
We all know general perception on fictional media can change over time. Lots of stuff that is poorly received or divisive when it first comes out eventually can achieve "cult status", which means people revisit it later and finds out it holds up surprisingly well and may even have been ahead of its era.
I think about Popee the Performer for example, a bad CGI show which was often a meme in the early days of online anime communities, but as time passed people started to see such cheap animation as endearing considering the time it came out, and started to focus on other aspects of it, like how funny it truly was or how amazing Wakako Masuda's character designs actually were. Hell, even Toby Fox, creator of Undertale and Deltarune, considers himself a fan of it.
What are some other examples of this you know about?
A perfect example of "cult status" is like "Agent AIKa" where a fan would end up buying the series just to collect on Japanese Laserdisc, multiple DVD volume releases, the Remastered edition, Limited Edition collector's sets that came with a real pair of cheap nylon white panties with a tiny pink bow at the top as some obscure swag, and even random niche stuff like "Tobimono Girls" a Japanese collector’s print issue of Noriyasu Yamauchi’s illustration art, even go to doujinshi convention buying up fanfiction of the franchise, etc... Where a fan would even go out of their way to go to a convention half way across Japan just to get Noriyasu Yamauchi to sign a copy of one of their DVD volumes or even their illustrated Art book.
Cult status implies that something once written off as trashy, niche, or forgettable ends up developing a loyal fanbase that digs way deeper than surface-level reception. What was once mocked for being excessive or lowbrow suddenly gets appreciated for how bold, unfiltered, or stylistically unique it was. People come back around and go, “Wait… this had a vibe”, and next thing you know, there’s merch, retrospectives, and fan art popping up decades later.
"Agent AIKa" used insane camera angles and unapologetic fanservice flooded with obnoxious amounts of gratuitous panty shots that would beyond overwhelm some modern casual consumer. Even if "Agent AIKa" might’ve been still meme-worthy back in the day, but now it stands as this weird, iconic time capsule of late-90s anime excess, and loyal fans who have followed the franchise love it for exactly that.
| @ColourWheel Amazing insight! I didn't know about Agent AIKa, will check it out later. |
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| Hasn't Boku no Pico reached a cult status? |
| Code Geass has always been a popular show, but for a long time it was considered a wish-fulfillment show for edgy teens and fujoshi. Many years have passed, the fans have grown and now the show is considered a proven classic, loved by elitists and is arguably better than modern shows for teens. @ColourWheel But was this show ever considered shitty garbage? I first learned about it in the 00s and it was still an example of meme-y old ecchi. |
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RobertBobert said: @ColourWheel But was this show ever considered shitty garbage? I first learned about it in the 00s and it was still an example of meme-y old ecchi. Yeah, that's the thing, cult status doesn't always mean something was universally hated or considered "shitty garbage" from the jump. It’s more about how something gets written off as niche, excessive, or just not taken seriously, only for it to develop this dedicated fanbase that sees value others missed. "Agent AIKa" always had that meme-y ecchi rep, sure. But most people saw it as throwaway panty-shot bait, not something worth collecting or revisiting. It got lumped in with late-90s OVA junk food. Fast forward to today? It’s appreciated as a bold, unfiltered time capsule. Fans aren’t just ironically watching it, they’re hunting down rare artbooks, getting LaserDiscs signed by Noriyasu Yamauchi, and fully embracing what made it unique. A classic Western example would be "The Rocky Horror Picture Show". That 1975 film was seen as weird, trashy, and fringe, but over time it exploded into a cult phenomenon. Indie theaters still show it decades later, every Friday night. Fans dress in drag, sing along, act out scenes under the screen, and turn it into a full-blown community event. That’s cult status. It’s not about mainstream approval, it’s about the ritual, the loyalty, and how deep the fandom goes. Same kind of vibe with "Agent AIKa". What looked like mindless fanservice to some became a stylistic relic people now treasure, because it dared to go full throttle in a way that stuck. And while it didn’t invent the panty fanservice trope, "Agent AIKa" played a huge role in codifying the hyper-exaggerated panty shot as a deliberate visual motif, not just something incidental, but something baked into the identity of the show. That influence echoed across time after it's release, shaping how Ecchi and panty fanservice was framed and how far creators could push the absurdity. One could even make a strong case that a lot of what followed in the Ecchi genre and panty fanservice in general would look totally different today if "Agent AIKa" had never existed at all. |
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RobertBobert said:
@ColourWheel But was this show ever considered shitty garbage? I first learned about it in the 00s and it was still an example of meme-y old ecchi.
@ColourWheel But was this show ever considered shitty garbage? I first learned about it in the 00s and it was still an example of meme-y old ecchi.
Yeah, that's the thing, cult status doesn't always mean something was universally hated or considered "shitty garbage" from the jump. It’s more about how something gets written off as niche, excessive, or just not taken seriously, only for it to develop this dedicated fanbase that sees value others missed.
"Agent AIKa" always had that meme-y ecchi rep, sure. But most people saw it as throwaway panty-shot bait, not something worth collecting or revisiting. It got lumped in with late-90s OVA junk food. Fast forward to today? It’s appreciated as a bold, unfiltered time capsule. Fans aren’t just ironically watching it, they’re hunting down rare artbooks, getting LaserDiscs signed by Noriyasu Yamauchi, and fully embracing what made it unique.
A classic Western example would be "The Rocky Horror Picture Show". That 1975 film was seen as weird, trashy, and fringe, but over time it exploded into a cult phenomenon. Indie theaters still show it decades later, every Friday night. Fans dress in drag, sing along, act out scenes under the screen, and turn it into a full-blown community event. That’s cult status. It’s not about mainstream approval, it’s about the ritual, the loyalty, and how deep the fandom goes.
Same kind of vibe with "Agent AIKa". What looked like mindless fanservice to some became a stylistic relic people now treasure, because it dared to go full throttle in a way that stuck. And while it didn’t invent the panty fanservice trope, "Agent AIKa" played a huge role in codifying the hyper-exaggerated panty shot as a deliberate visual motif, not just something incidental, but something baked into the identity of the show. That influence echoed across time after it's release, shaping how Ecchi and panty fanservice was framed and how far creators could push the absurdity. One could even make a strong case that a lot of what followed in the Ecchi genre and panty fanservice in general would look totally different today if "Agent AIKa" had never existed at all.
| @ColourWheel So, is this another so bad, it's good show from the past that people re-watch with an ironic squint years later? Like the trashy slashers from the 80s? |
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Code Geass has always been a popular show, but for a long time it was considered a wish-fulfillment show for edgy teens and fujoshi. Many years have passed, the fans have grown and now the show is considered a proven classic, loved by elitists and is arguably better than modern shows for teens.
@ColourWheel But was this show ever considered shitty garbage? I first learned about it in the 00s and it was still an example of meme-y old ecchi.
@ColourWheel But was this show ever considered shitty garbage? I first learned about it in the 00s and it was still an example of meme-y old ecchi.
| @RobertBobert Man, I remember those days. Gorou Taniguchi was a really loved director because of Infinite Ryvius and Planetes but when he made Code Geass it was like the "Coppola making One from the Heart" of anime elitists, just because he decided to partner with CLAMP for the character designs. Glad to see that time did it the justice it deserved. |
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| I don't care about the cult status of shows. I watch shows I enjoy, I don't care what other people think about shows. |
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@RobertBobert Man, I remember those days. Gorou Taniguchi was a really loved director because of Infinite Ryvius and Planetes but when he made Code Geass it was like the "Coppola making One from the Heart" of anime elitists, just because he decided to partner with CLAMP for the character designs. Glad to see that time did it the justice it deserved.
| @Atromentina It's hard for me to say how much this is deserved, but just imagine my reaction when the people who were attacked by elitists in the 00s grew up and became elitists themselves in the 10s and 20s. |
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RobertBobert said: @ColourWheel So, is this another so bad, it's good show from the past that people re-watch with an ironic squint years later? Like the trashy slashers from the 80s? You kind of missed the point of what I was laying out. "Agent AIKa" isn’t something that actual hardcore fans are rewatching just to laugh at or cringe through ironically, that’s the difference. Sure, it had a meme-y rep, and yeah, it was always extreme with the panties practically perpetually shoved up in your face. But it wasn’t incompetent or some half-assed production. People are revisiting it now and realizing it was stylized by design, not accidentally funny like some bad 80s slasher. The direction, the animation, the way it leaned hard into absurd visual gag, all of that was intentional and not even strictly meant to be some sexual content for a bunch of horny perverts to jerk their meat to either. And that’s what makes it interesting in hindsight. It exaggerated things on purpose and ended up influencing how Ecchi and panty fanservice got framed later on. So no, it’s not just “trash we laugh at now”. It’s more like... "Damn, this went full throttle with a specific aesthetic, and it actually stuck the landing better than people gave it credit for at the time". That’s the sentiment I hear the most when I lend the original "Agent AIKa" OVA to people in real life to watch, not just laughs, but a real appreciation for how bold and self-aware it actually was. |
ColourWheelJul 28, 11:42 AM
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RobertBobert said:
@ColourWheel So, is this another so bad, it's good show from the past that people re-watch with an ironic squint years later? Like the trashy slashers from the 80s?
@ColourWheel So, is this another so bad, it's good show from the past that people re-watch with an ironic squint years later? Like the trashy slashers from the 80s?
You kind of missed the point of what I was laying out. "Agent AIKa" isn’t something that actual hardcore fans are rewatching just to laugh at or cringe through ironically, that’s the difference. Sure, it had a meme-y rep, and yeah, it was always extreme with the panties practically perpetually shoved up in your face. But it wasn’t incompetent or some half-assed production. People are revisiting it now and realizing it was stylized by design, not accidentally funny like some bad 80s slasher.
The direction, the animation, the way it leaned hard into absurd visual gag, all of that was intentional and not even strictly meant to be some sexual content for a bunch of horny perverts to jerk their meat to either. And that’s what makes it interesting in hindsight. It exaggerated things on purpose and ended up influencing how Ecchi and panty fanservice got framed later on.
So no, it’s not just “trash we laugh at now”. It’s more like... "Damn, this went full throttle with a specific aesthetic, and it actually stuck the landing better than people gave it credit for at the time". That’s the sentiment I hear the most when I lend the original "Agent AIKa" OVA to people in real life to watch, not just laughs, but a real appreciation for how bold and self-aware it actually was.
| @ColourWheel Now it sounds like a trashy '80s slasher that modern fans ironically analyzed and taken apart into detail as a very intelligent and profound masterpiece.. Like Twilight or Jennifer's Body for the '00s. |
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RobertBobert said: @ColourWheel Now it sounds like a trashy '80s slasher that modern fans ironically analyzed and taken apart into detail as a very intelligent and profound masterpiece.. Like Twilight or Jennifer's Body for the '00s. Whether you're self-aware of it or not, you're kind of proving my point. You're lumping "AIKa" in with stuff that got reappraised in spite of being a mess, but the difference is "AIKa" was never an accident to begin with. It was always self-aware. It wasn’t trash elevated by irony, it was stylized trash by design, executed with real production value and intent. The fanservice was turned up to 11 on a dial that only went to 10. But it wasn't incompetent or oblivious, that absurdity was the point. And it helped shape how over-the-top Ecchi could be both ridiculous and visually sharp. This isn’t like "Twilight" being ironically analyzed into retroactive genius. It’s people rewatching "AIKa" and finally getting what it was doing on purpose the whole time. lol That said, I am genuinely curious, what then would you consider something with actual cult status? Please, enlighten us… lol. |
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RobertBobert said:
@ColourWheel Now it sounds like a trashy '80s slasher that modern fans ironically analyzed and taken apart into detail as a very intelligent and profound masterpiece.. Like Twilight or Jennifer's Body for the '00s.
@ColourWheel Now it sounds like a trashy '80s slasher that modern fans ironically analyzed and taken apart into detail as a very intelligent and profound masterpiece.. Like Twilight or Jennifer's Body for the '00s.
Whether you're self-aware of it or not, you're kind of proving my point. You're lumping "AIKa" in with stuff that got reappraised in spite of being a mess, but the difference is "AIKa" was never an accident to begin with. It was always self-aware. It wasn’t trash elevated by irony, it was stylized trash by design, executed with real production value and intent.
The fanservice was turned up to 11 on a dial that only went to 10. But it wasn't incompetent or oblivious, that absurdity was the point. And it helped shape how over-the-top Ecchi could be both ridiculous and visually sharp. This isn’t like "Twilight" being ironically analyzed into retroactive genius. It’s people rewatching "AIKa" and finally getting what it was doing on purpose the whole time. lol
That said, I am genuinely curious, what then would you consider something with actual cult status?
Please, enlighten us… lol.
| @ColourWheel I just want to say that you don't have to turn something you like into a masterpiece to love and admire it. For example, Queen Blade is the epitome of cheesy sexualization and fetishization of fantasy women. From the main character's sisters fucking each other to the plot reminiscent of a horny teenage boy fanfic for some other, serious title. And at the same time, I sincerely admire it, because it is a perfectly made title in its genre. You don't have to overanalyze it or pretend the writers were subtle post-ironic trolls to love it. |
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RobertBobert said: @ColourWheel I just want to say that you don't have to turn something you like into a masterpiece to love and admire it. For example, Queen Blade is the epitome of cheesy sexualization and fetishization of fantasy women. From the main character's sisters fucking each other to the plot reminiscent of a horny teenage boy fanfic for some other, serious title. And at the same time, I sincerely admire it, because it is a perfectly made title in its genre. You don't have to overanalyze it or pretend the writers were subtle post-ironic trolls to love it. I never said otherwise, but you’re just sidestepping everything I’ve laid out, and not even offering your own examples of what you consider cult status. lol You definitely don’t have to intellectualize everything to enjoy a show. I’m all for just loving something on its own terms. My point was that "Agent AIKa" has a deliberate style and consciously pushed fanservice in a way that actually shaped that era of anime. It’s not about calling it a masterpiece, but understanding it had real production value behind that ‘over the top’ vibe, which makes revisiting it way more interesting than just laughs or nostalgia. Certainly a lot more in my opinion, than something that’s just the "epitome of cheesy sexualization and fetishization of fantasy women". lol |
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RobertBobert said:
@ColourWheel I just want to say that you don't have to turn something you like into a masterpiece to love and admire it. For example, Queen Blade is the epitome of cheesy sexualization and fetishization of fantasy women. From the main character's sisters fucking each other to the plot reminiscent of a horny teenage boy fanfic for some other, serious title. And at the same time, I sincerely admire it, because it is a perfectly made title in its genre. You don't have to overanalyze it or pretend the writers were subtle post-ironic trolls to love it.
@ColourWheel I just want to say that you don't have to turn something you like into a masterpiece to love and admire it. For example, Queen Blade is the epitome of cheesy sexualization and fetishization of fantasy women. From the main character's sisters fucking each other to the plot reminiscent of a horny teenage boy fanfic for some other, serious title. And at the same time, I sincerely admire it, because it is a perfectly made title in its genre. You don't have to overanalyze it or pretend the writers were subtle post-ironic trolls to love it.
I never said otherwise, but you’re just sidestepping everything I’ve laid out, and not even offering your own examples of what you consider cult status. lol
You definitely don’t have to intellectualize everything to enjoy a show. I’m all for just loving something on its own terms. My point was that "Agent AIKa" has a deliberate style and consciously pushed fanservice in a way that actually shaped that era of anime. It’s not about calling it a masterpiece, but understanding it had real production value behind that ‘over the top’ vibe, which makes revisiting it way more interesting than just laughs or nostalgia. Certainly a lot more in my opinion, than something that’s just the "epitome of cheesy sexualization and fetishization of fantasy women". lol
| @ColourWheel This is just my opinion, you don't need to be so defensive like I'm trying to convince you that Aika is trash. If you're wondering what a cult is in my book, half of Carpenter's films qualify as one. Most of his undisputed masterpieces flopped at the box office and were positively re-evaluated years later. Especially in the case of The Thing, which went from being a widely panned horror film to a horror movie legend. |
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RobertBobert said:
@ColourWheel I just want to say that you don't have to turn something you like into a masterpiece to love and admire it. For example, Queen Blade is the epitome of cheesy sexualization and fetishization of fantasy women. From the main character's sisters fucking each other to the plot reminiscent of a horny teenage boy fanfic for some other, serious title. And at the same time, I sincerely admire it, because it is a perfectly made title in its genre. You don't have to overanalyze it or pretend the writers were subtle post-ironic trolls to love it.
@ColourWheel I just want to say that you don't have to turn something you like into a masterpiece to love and admire it. For example, Queen Blade is the epitome of cheesy sexualization and fetishization of fantasy women. From the main character's sisters fucking each other to the plot reminiscent of a horny teenage boy fanfic for some other, serious title. And at the same time, I sincerely admire it, because it is a perfectly made title in its genre. You don't have to overanalyze it or pretend the writers were subtle post-ironic trolls to love it.
I never said otherwise, but you’re just sidestepping everything I’ve laid out, and not even offering your own examples of what you consider cult status. lol
You definitely don’t have to intellectualize everything to enjoy a show. I’m all for just loving something on its own terms. My point was that "Agent AIKa" has a deliberate style and consciously pushed fanservice in a way that actually shaped that era of anime. It’s not about calling it a masterpiece, but understanding it had real production value behind that ‘over the top’ vibe, which makes revisiting it way more interesting than just laughs or nostalgia. Certainly a lot more in my opinion, than something that’s just the "epitome of cheesy sexualization and fetishization of fantasy women". lol
| @ColourWheel This is just my opinion, you don't need to be so defensive like I'm trying to convince you that Aika is trash. If you're wondering what a cult is in my book, half of Carpenter's films qualify as one. Most of his undisputed masterpieces flopped at the box office and were positively re-evaluated years later. Especially in the case of The Thing, which went from being a widely panned horror film to a horror movie legend. |
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RobertBobert said: @ColourWheel This is just my opinion, you don't need to be so defensive like I'm trying to convince you that Aika is trash. If you're wondering what a cult is in my book, half of Carpenter's films qualify as one. Most of his undisputed masterpieces flopped at the box office and were positively re-evaluated years later. Especially in the case of The Thing, which went from being a widely panned horror film to a horror movie legend. I’m not being defensive, I’m being specific. You’ve been openly dismissive about "AIKa" (the irony), and I laid out why that take oversimplifies the show’s actual intent and legacy. You also described another franchise as “the epitome of cheesy sexualization”, which carried an obvious indirect jab. that is hardly neutral “opinion” language, even if it’s something you claim to enjoy. lol And sure, Carpenter’s films like "The Thing" are textbook classics, no argument there. But that’s a very different context: mainstream critical failure, commercial flop, followed by long-term reappraisal. "AIKa" was never some big studio gamble. It was a direct-to-video title that thrived in its niche. Cult status in Anime often hinges more on subcultural endurance, influence on tropes, or being rediscovered in new ways. That’s why it deserves to be talked about differently than Western cult cinema. So if we’re actually comparing what makes something “cult”, let’s do that. and not just retreat into “it’s just my opinion” after tossing out so much shade and pretending it was neutral. lol |
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RobertBobert said:
@ColourWheel This is just my opinion, you don't need to be so defensive like I'm trying to convince you that Aika is trash. If you're wondering what a cult is in my book, half of Carpenter's films qualify as one. Most of his undisputed masterpieces flopped at the box office and were positively re-evaluated years later. Especially in the case of The Thing, which went from being a widely panned horror film to a horror movie legend.
@ColourWheel This is just my opinion, you don't need to be so defensive like I'm trying to convince you that Aika is trash. If you're wondering what a cult is in my book, half of Carpenter's films qualify as one. Most of his undisputed masterpieces flopped at the box office and were positively re-evaluated years later. Especially in the case of The Thing, which went from being a widely panned horror film to a horror movie legend.
I’m not being defensive, I’m being specific. You’ve been openly dismissive about "AIKa" (the irony), and I laid out why that take oversimplifies the show’s actual intent and legacy. You also described another franchise as “the epitome of cheesy sexualization”, which carried an obvious indirect jab. that is hardly neutral “opinion” language, even if it’s something you claim to enjoy. lol
And sure, Carpenter’s films like "The Thing" are textbook classics, no argument there. But that’s a very different context: mainstream critical failure, commercial flop, followed by long-term reappraisal. "AIKa" was never some big studio gamble. It was a direct-to-video title that thrived in its niche. Cult status in Anime often hinges more on subcultural endurance, influence on tropes, or being rediscovered in new ways. That’s why it deserves to be talked about differently than Western cult cinema.
So if we’re actually comparing what makes something “cult”, let’s do that. and not just retreat into “it’s just my opinion” after tossing out so much shade and pretending it was neutral. lol
| @ColourWheel When I have to say that it is "just my opinion", I can no longer be neutral. |
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Nichijou flopped really badly when it came out now it's a trend to glaze it
| @zoomerReviewer Nichijou was praised to the seventh heaven back when it aired, too, but it still flopped. I don't think anything changed. |
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RobertBobert said: @ColourWheel When I have to say that it is "just my opinion", I can no longer be neutral. This entire conversation has never been in good faith to begin with. And you can't pretend otherwise. You actually started off asking a question. showing you obviously had no clue what actual cult status is here... or at least pretending you didn't. lol RobertBobert said: @ColourWheel So, is this another so bad, it's good show from the past that people re-watch with an ironic squint years later? Like the trashy slashers from the 80s? I thoroughly explained shit to you here multiple times throughout the entire thread... you just dismissed everything I had to say while perpetually throwing shade at it.... Then suddenly just backpedaled behind "just my opinion". Then throwing up random shit like a classic Western mainstream film called "The Thing". If you ask my opinion... "The Thing", let’s be real, it’s had decades of critical rehab and mainstream validation. Calling that ‘cult’ now is like dressing it up in 'drag'. Shows like "AIKa" never needed a redemption arc, it earned their place by thriving in the margins and influencing a whole wave of Anime, not by finally getting approval from critics years later. lol If you have no other examples to drop of what you think defines a "Cult status" in Anime, then this conversation is over. Because even Western cult cinema is different by far. lol |
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RobertBobert said:
@ColourWheel When I have to say that it is "just my opinion", I can no longer be neutral.
@ColourWheel When I have to say that it is "just my opinion", I can no longer be neutral.
This entire conversation has never been in good faith to begin with. And you can't pretend otherwise. You actually started off asking a question. showing you obviously had no clue what actual cult status is here... or at least pretending you didn't. lol
RobertBobert said:
@ColourWheel So, is this another so bad, it's good show from the past that people re-watch with an ironic squint years later? Like the trashy slashers from the 80s?
@ColourWheel So, is this another so bad, it's good show from the past that people re-watch with an ironic squint years later? Like the trashy slashers from the 80s?
I thoroughly explained shit to you here multiple times throughout the entire thread... you just dismissed everything I had to say while perpetually throwing shade at it....
Then suddenly just backpedaled behind "just my opinion". Then throwing up random shit like a classic Western mainstream film called "The Thing".
If you ask my opinion... "The Thing", let’s be real, it’s had decades of critical rehab and mainstream validation. Calling that ‘cult’ now is like dressing it up in 'drag'. Shows like "AIKa" never needed a redemption arc, it earned their place by thriving in the margins and influencing a whole wave of Anime, not by finally getting approval from critics years later. lol
If you have no other examples to drop of what you think defines a "Cult status" in Anime, then this conversation is over. Because even Western cult cinema is different by far. lol
| @ColourWheel Dude, you're digging too deep, while I was pretty open and simple in my opinion. |
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