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Jan 18, 4:20 AM
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another great ep

i knew it that Kid was hiding well, he is very good
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Jan 18, 5:26 AM
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Darn I thought that appraiser guy spray painted or something. Then again, the way he only put his hand halfway in is kind of suspicious. The crown has to still be there. Wish that someone would just go up there and check.

Thought that Amuro was going to make an appearance and capture Kid again but maybe he's being reserved for the next episode. Kinda wish they didn't show us who he disguised himself as in the beginning of the episode. Defeats the purpose of trying to figure out who he's disguised as this time. I'm looking forward to seeing how he pulled this heist off.

Seeing Sonoko and Ran crawling in the Fujin Road while Conan is just walking through it was funny.

On another note, was not expecting Wakita to be there. And he said something about if only he had his other eye, he wouldn't be useless. Does he need depth perception to figure something or what. Just from the OP, we've got some exciting times ahead of us this year. Or at least, I hope.

hai_X_isJan 18, 5:42 AM
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Jan 18, 6:19 AM
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Amuro Toru has a new Seiyu starting with this episode. Takeshi Kusao replaces Toru Furuya after his scandal.
The difference is there, but the Seiyu did a good job to make Amuro's new voice as similar as his previous one.
Jan 18, 6:40 AM
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Amuro Toru has a new Seiyu starting with this episode. Takeshi Kusao replaces Toru Furuya after his scandal.
The difference is there, but the Seiyu did a good job to make Amuro's new voice as similar as his previous one.
@groudonvert

Shame that this kind of thing happens but it is great they found a replacement.
Rei might have some more involvement with the plot so I'm looking forward to how Takeshi Kusao handles the role.

Haven't seen a significant change in VAs on Detective Conan since Kogoro's old VA retired. I think we will get used to it eventually.
Notice: I read most manga in Japanese now so I'm not sure where you can read in English. Sorry in advance.
Jan 18, 6:51 AM
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@groudonvert

Shame that this kind of thing happens but it is great they found a replacement.
Rei might have some more involvement with the plot so I'm looking forward to how Takeshi Kusao handles the role.

Haven't seen a significant change in VAs on Detective Conan since Kogoro's old VA retired. I think we will get used to it eventually.
@hai_X_is
Well speaking of significant change in VA, we have 3 characters in this episode who changed voice : Nakamori, Jirokichi (3rd Seiyu !) and Amuro Toru. Nakamori and Jirokichi voices are completely different from before (the second Seiyu had a similar voice from the first one).

The FBI group - except Akai - saw their seiyu died, Jodie has yet to be replaced though (and we don't know if she will appear again since the manga has yet to make her appear again since movie 26 and the last confrontation).

And let's not forget that all main characters have old Seiyu :/ They could die or retire before the series end, sadly.
Jan 18, 7:10 AM
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now Trunks will be voicing Amuro-san
Jan 18, 9:08 AM
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It seems obvious that the male appraiser was Kid in disguise since it was framed with his body completely covering the appraisal process. In addition to that, he stopped the police officer who was checking the place where the crown was by throwing suspicion on the exhibit director. I assume the crown is still there and Kaito painted it or something when appraising it. Maybe a special kind of paint that turns black and camouflages with the black background under very specific circumstances. Or maybe it was another similar trick. Regardless, it's very sloppy detective work to not even check the place where the crown was directly.
Jan 18, 11:53 AM
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@hai_X_is
Well speaking of significant change in VA, we have 3 characters in this episode who changed voice : Nakamori, Jirokichi (3rd Seiyu !) and Amuro Toru. Nakamori and Jirokichi voices are completely different from before (the second Seiyu had a similar voice from the first one).

The FBI group - except Akai - saw their seiyu died, Jodie has yet to be replaced though (and we don't know if she will appear again since the manga has yet to make her appear again since movie 26 and the last confrontation).

And let's not forget that all main characters have old Seiyu :/ They could die or retire before the series end, sadly.
@groudonvert

Ah I see. Hard to keep track of them. I guess since they aren't around that much they can just switch the VAs around.

And yeah I agree. A lot of old heads are in this since the 90s. Just hope that it will end before that happens.
Notice: I read most manga in Japanese now so I'm not sure where you can read in English. Sorry in advance.
Jan 18, 11:56 AM
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It seems obvious that the male appraiser was Kid in disguise since it was framed with his body completely covering the appraisal process. In addition to that, he stopped the police officer who was checking the place where the crown was by throwing suspicion on the exhibit director. I assume the crown is still there and Kaito painted it or something when appraising it. Maybe a special kind of paint that turns black and camouflages with the black background under very specific circumstances. Or maybe it was another similar trick. Regardless, it's very sloppy detective work to not even check the place where the crown was directly.
@anime-prime

That seems about right. Heard from somewhere this isn't the greatest heist case.

I'm thinking the same. Kind of irritating that not even Nakamori himself would go up and check if it's there. Heck even after Conan made a good point they just went along with Kid's trick.
Notice: I read most manga in Japanese now so I'm not sure where you can read in English. Sorry in advance.
Jan 18, 12:58 PM
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@anime-prime

That seems about right. Heard from somewhere this isn't the greatest heist case.

I'm thinking the same. Kind of irritating that not even Nakamori himself would go up and check if it's there. Heck even after Conan made a good point they just went along with Kid's trick.
@hai_X_is
Nakamori seems to have some doubt at some point and wanted to check before mustache guy interrupted him.

I won't talk much about the case, but it has some great points, one of them being Wakita appearing in it who hints to the 17 years case after Rumi Wakasa's flashback in the previous case who did the same. The ending of the case is also a huge point in its favor.
Jan 18, 6:42 PM

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I never knew Poirot cafe did food deliveries. Maybe it's to compete with other places that use Uber Eats and whatnot.

I'm guessing the two appraisers are Kid and Jii. That can of compressed air was probably something that wasn't air sprayed onto it.

It's almost crazy to think after his scandal, Toru Furuya resigned from voicing Amuro, a character role that was literally named after him. He brought it upon himself though which he has to live with for the rest of his life. I honestly didn't even notice he was replaced with a new VA the first time around, until I went back to listen to it again, and only then did I notice the very evident difference. I'm sure we'll all get used to it soon enough just the previous times someone was replaced. There's only a handful of characters I can never imagine being voiced by someone else, and that's the main characters like Conan, Ran, Ai...etc, and more reoccurring characters like Kuroba Kaito/Kudo Shinichi, Hatori, and Kazuha. In those cases...I honestly hope they can come to an agreement to use AI to replicate their voices in the event that someone passes away for whatever reason; something that's happened a few times now and they had to find a replacement before their next appearance. This is a just a real possibility of life as people age, for long-running series like this. It's too bad hearing about Jodie's VA passing away as well...she was the same age as my dad which really hits home for me. Speaking of mortality, I also hope they already have an ending made for the manga, in case the author passes away before the series finishes.
Jan 18, 10:01 PM
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Well Mary's voice acting was improved with the new Seiyu who makes a clear difference between Child Mary and Adult Mary. Maybe we can expect something similar when Amuro is more serious (not that I didn't like either performance, but changing a Seiyu can help sometimes).
Jan 18, 10:06 PM

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@hai_X_is
Well speaking of significant change in VA, we have 3 characters in this episode who changed voice : Nakamori, Jirokichi (3rd Seiyu !) and Amuro Toru. Nakamori and Jirokichi voices are completely different from before (the second Seiyu had a similar voice from the first one).

The FBI group - except Akai - saw their seiyu died, Jodie has yet to be replaced though (and we don't know if she will appear again since the manga has yet to make her appear again since movie 26 and the last confrontation).

And let's not forget that all main characters have old Seiyu :/ They could die or retire before the series end, sadly.
@groudonvert I don’t think the VA for her was replaced but Azusa’s voice has definitely changed quite a bit recently. Likely her voice changing due to VAs age and such. It’s really sad but a reality that if a show goes on for long enough the cast will begin needing to be replaced.

Luckily most of the main cast VAs are still in their 50s and 60s which is generally young enough that old age won’t kill them for a while longer. Although that means nothing for health problems and everything else. Agasa’s and Akai’s VAs on the other hand may not last much longer. I think Akai’s is nearing 80 and Agasa’s is in his mid 80s. And sadly Chihaya’s VA died not that long after getting her role.

Honestly so long as their VA is still alive to voice them I’m perfectly fine with their voice changing due to age. But I’d rather when they have to replace VAs to try and get younger ones to do the job if this show won’t end in the next 5-10 years. Most of them are voicing characters from ages 20-40 with a few outliers but the point still stands.
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Jan 18, 10:26 PM
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hai_X_is said:
Darn I thought that appraiser guy spray painted or something. Then again, the way he only put his hand halfway in is kind of suspicious. The crown has to still be there. Wish that someone would just go up there and check.

Thought that Amuro was going to make an appearance and capture Kid again but maybe he's being reserved for the next episode. Kinda wish they didn't show us who he disguised himself as in the beginning of the episode. Defeats the purpose of trying to figure out who he's disguised as this time. I'm looking forward to seeing how he pulled this heist off.

Seeing Sonoko and Ran crawling in the Fujin Road while Conan is just walking through it was funny.

On another note, was not expecting Wakita to be there. And he said something about if only he had his other eye, he wouldn't be useless. Does he need depth perception to figure something or what. Just from the OP, we've got some exciting times ahead of us this year. Or at least, I hope.


We know it's Azusa later, but she's not there inside the room with the crown right now. He is disguised as someone else for now, and that's what is needed to be figured out.
Jan 18, 10:41 PM
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hai_X_is said:
Darn I thought that appraiser guy spray painted or something. Then again, the way he only put his hand halfway in is kind of suspicious. The crown has to still be there. Wish that someone would just go up there and check.

Thought that Amuro was going to make an appearance and capture Kid again but maybe he's being reserved for the next episode. Kinda wish they didn't show us who he disguised himself as in the beginning of the episode. Defeats the purpose of trying to figure out who he's disguised as this time. I'm looking forward to seeing how he pulled this heist off.

Seeing Sonoko and Ran crawling in the Fujin Road while Conan is just walking through it was funny.

On another note, was not expecting Wakita to be there. And he said something about if only he had his other eye, he wouldn't be useless. Does he need depth perception to figure something or what. Just from the OP, we've got some exciting times ahead of us this year. Or at least, I hope.


We know it's Azusa later, but she's not there inside the room with the crown right now. He is disguised as someone else for now, and that's what is needed to be figured out.
@JHOMei
Well the flashforward serves the purpose to ask ourselves : How will Conan resolve that tricky situation?
If there wasn't, we wouldn't have to ask ourselves this question since it would be immediately resolved.
Jan 19, 2:14 AM
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groudonvert said:
@hai_X_is
Well speaking of significant change in VA, we have 3 characters in this episode who changed voice : Nakamori, Jirokichi (3rd Seiyu !) and Amuro Toru. Nakamori and Jirokichi voices are completely different from before (the second Seiyu had a similar voice from the first one).

The FBI group - except Akai - saw their seiyu died, Jodie has yet to be replaced though (and we don't know if she will appear again since the manga has yet to make her appear again since movie 26 and the last confrontation).

And let's not forget that all main characters have old Seiyu :/ They could die or retire before the series end, sadly.

As MewsicMagic already mentioned in previous post, we lost Tanaka Atsuko as Chihaya, but this loss is more crucial because she also voiced Mari Sera. Has there been any announcement on their new VA(s)?
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Amuro's voice actor was changed!! Tho the new seiyuu sounds really similar to his old voice I didn't even realise it at first
Jan 19, 4:47 AM
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@hai_X_is
Well speaking of significant change in VA, we have 3 characters in this episode who changed voice : Nakamori, Jirokichi (3rd Seiyu !) and Amuro Toru. Nakamori and Jirokichi voices are completely different from before (the second Seiyu had a similar voice from the first one).

The FBI group - except Akai - saw their seiyu died, Jodie has yet to be replaced though (and we don't know if she will appear again since the manga has yet to make her appear again since movie 26 and the last confrontation).

And let's not forget that all main characters have old Seiyu :/ They could die or retire before the series end, sadly.

As MewsicMagic already mentioned in previous post, we lost Tanaka Atsuko as Chihaya, but this loss is more crucial because she also voiced Mari Sera. Has there been any announcement on their new VA(s)?
@regulusgal
Chihaya's new Seiyu was not announced, but it will probably be the same than Mary.
That said we don't know what will happen with her character, her last appearance in the manga was during the masked case.
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hai_X_is said:
Darn I thought that appraiser guy spray painted or something. Then again, the way he only put his hand halfway in is kind of suspicious. The crown has to still be there. Wish that someone would just go up there and check.

Thought that Amuro was going to make an appearance and capture Kid again but maybe he's being reserved for the next episode. Kinda wish they didn't show us who he disguised himself as in the beginning of the episode. Defeats the purpose of trying to figure out who he's disguised as this time. I'm looking forward to seeing how he pulled this heist off.

Seeing Sonoko and Ran crawling in the Fujin Road while Conan is just walking through it was funny.

On another note, was not expecting Wakita to be there. And he said something about if only he had his other eye, he wouldn't be useless. Does he need depth perception to figure something or what. Just from the OP, we've got some exciting times ahead of us this year. Or at least, I hope.


We know it's Azusa later, but she's not there inside the room with the crown right now. He is disguised as someone else for now, and that's what is needed to be figured out.
@JHOMei

Understandable.
Given their actions I think we can find out who is Kid.
Notice: I read most manga in Japanese now so I'm not sure where you can read in English. Sorry in advance.
Jan 19, 5:57 AM

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@groudonvert
Fair point. It adds to the suspense and allows the viewers to get hooked in to see what happens next.
Heard somewhere that is how they opened the chapter as well.
Notice: I read most manga in Japanese now so I'm not sure where you can read in English. Sorry in advance.
Jan 19, 8:01 AM
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@groudonvert
Fair point. It adds to the suspense and allows the viewers to get hooked in to see what happens next.
Heard somewhere that is how they opened the chapter as well.
@hai_X_is
Yes the manga starts the case the same way.
Jan 19, 12:48 PM
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Speaking of Seiyu, Shuichi Ikeda retired from Gundam. No information for Detective Conan yet, but it's possible we'll have a new voice for Shuichi Akai too :( (and in that case the entire cast of FBI agents will have new voices xD ).
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Good episode. Visually, it's better looking than the last two, which I thought were disappointing as far as canon episodes go (they usually step up the animation quality for those).

As far as the mystery of who Kid is right now, I think it's the old woman. She says she has bad vision, so it took her a long time to find the ketchup stains. Hum, what? She is literally an appraiser, she uses her eyes for a living! How is she then gonna come here and tell the cops that she can't tell a dog from a wolf? Be so f-in for real. Also, I think that giant tarp she's wearing could be hiding some secrets underneath...
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I'll bet you $5 that Kid gets away in the end, any takers?
Jan 23, 1:00 PM
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I'll bet you $5 that Kid gets away in the end, any takers?
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Kid has his own show, so it's very unlikely he will get caught in Detective Conan.
Besides that, Conan stopped trying to capture him long ago. They only have a friendly rivalry.
What's more is that Conan never fails to understand Kid's tricks... but Kids never fails his thieves either.
Jan 25, 7:01 AM
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hai_X_is said:
@groudonvert
Fair point. It adds to the suspense and allows the viewers to get hooked in to see what happens next.
Heard somewhere that is how they opened the chapter as well.

the suspense is how they got to that situation. It is just a different way to give a thrill.
Jan 25, 7:03 AM
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WolfWood37 said:
I'll bet you $5 that Kid gets away in the end, any takers?

just 5$? this is probably his 20th time getting away. or more
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Tbh, I think that Kusao fits Amuro so much better and he did a great job emulating Furuya's vibe. I'm glad they found great replacements for Furuya's characters so far.
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Not the most entertaining Kid's episode and it doesn't seem like most character will be doing that much.
Sonoko's Uncle is running out of ideas on how to catch Kid.
Feb 5, 4:59 PM
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Not the most entertaining Kid's episode and it doesn't seem like most character will be doing that much.
Sonoko's Uncle is running out of ideas on how to catch Kid.
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Oh you have no idea. The next Kaito Kid case is one of the best ever done ^^
Feb 6, 2:48 AM
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Kaito Kid returns, and stole the crown!!!
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Why did no one check whether it really was missing instead of taking Kid's word??

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