1st what is your sex? 2nd Do you support the censorship of these characters? 3. Are you over 18?
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Kenzolo-folk said:
arling in the franxx may have sexualization, but its a show targeted towards teenagers featuring teenage characters. There is no sexualization of prepubescent children in darlifra. A teenager liking child shit is still weird, but a teenager like teenage sexual shit is not. Imma be honest, idk why ur mentioning darlifra as if i ever said teenage-resembling sexualization is bad. Its prepubescent little kid characters thats the problem.
Rape in media is deplorable and disgusting, but more tolerable because it implies attraction to grown people. However rape of children thats supposed to be for the viewers satisfaction is a whole different level of disgusting
The people animating Darling in the Franxx are all adults, do you think they are committing a crime by drawing teenagers in sexual situations? arling in the franxx may have sexualization, but its a show targeted towards teenagers featuring teenage characters. There is no sexualization of prepubescent children in darlifra. A teenager liking child shit is still weird, but a teenager like teenage sexual shit is not. Imma be honest, idk why ur mentioning darlifra as if i ever said teenage-resembling sexualization is bad. Its prepubescent little kid characters thats the problem.
Rape in media is deplorable and disgusting, but more tolerable because it implies attraction to grown people. However rape of children thats supposed to be for the viewers satisfaction is a whole different level of disgusting
And this doesn't erase the fact that you do have a lolicon on your favs and enjoy his work full of problematic stuff...
| @MadanielFL MadanielFL said: The characters in darlifra are teenagers but can believed to be adults if the show told you because they have grown-looking bodies, they arent drawn as little children with tanktops and high pitched voices. I dont think its unusual for an adult to find a teenage anime character arousing because the anime design of a teenager and the anime design of an adult female character is virtually the same. The people animating Darling in the Franxx are all adults, do you think they are committing a crime by drawing teenagers n sexual situations? MadanielFL said: And this doesn't erase the fact that you do have a lolicon on your favs and enjoy his work full of problematic stuff... i mean what do u want me to say? when i put him as my favorites i didnt know he was a lolicon. "and enjoy his work full of problematic stuff," did i not just say that i dont enjoy the fact he explicitly includes rape scenes? I like berserk for guts and the overarching messages. When a rape scene is in berserk I'm not reading it like its supposed to be arousing for me- 100% of the time i just immediately skip it when i reread it, its what I tolerate from a series like berserk. Its extremely hard to find a show in anime that doesnt include some type of sexualization/problematic scene. Its what i expect from anime at this point, and if I were to immediately demonize any show with these elements, my list would be too narrow for me to even say I enjoy watching anime. I understand that what western and japanese media consider problematic are not the same, and i dont push these western standards at all unless of course it depicts LITTLE KIDS. Im focusing on child rape for viewer satisfaction, which is not in berserk. |
Kenzolo-folkMar 29, 9:20 PM
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| Oohhhh this is like the war of roses Two different factions yet more-or-less born from the same source, the white roses (anti censorship) and the red roses (pro censorship) are fighting for supremacy  |
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Kenzolo-folk said: The characters in that show do not look like adults, they are mostly all short, and none of them have actual adult bodies (like muscles or facial hair), they don't even act or sound like adults. The characters in darlifra are teenagers but can believed to be adults if the show told you because they have grown-looking bodies, they arent drawn as little children with tanktops and high pitched voices. I dont think its unusual for an adult to find a teenage anime character arousing because the anime design of a teenager and the anime design of an adult female character is virtually the same. If you pick a random person on the street, and show them one of the characters, most people wouldn't think they are adults. If you look at actual adults in the show like Hachi or Nana, you will see how they look at lot more grown up then the rest of the cast. |
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Kenzolo-folk said:
The characters in darlifra are teenagers but can believed to be adults if the show told you because they have grown-looking bodies, they arent drawn as little children with tanktops and high pitched voices. I dont think its unusual for an adult to find a teenage anime character arousing because the anime design of a teenager and the anime design of an adult female character is virtually the same.
The characters in that show do not look like adults, they are mostly all short, and none of them have actual adult bodies (like muscles or facial hair), they don't even act or sound like adults. The characters in darlifra are teenagers but can believed to be adults if the show told you because they have grown-looking bodies, they arent drawn as little children with tanktops and high pitched voices. I dont think its unusual for an adult to find a teenage anime character arousing because the anime design of a teenager and the anime design of an adult female character is virtually the same.
If you pick a random person on the street, and show them one of the characters, most people wouldn't think they are adults.
If you look at actual adults in the show like Hachi or Nana, you will see how they look at lot more grown up then the rest of the cast.
| @MadanielFL I mean yeah, looking back they dont really have adult designs. Even so, I dont think its as serious as sexualizing child-looking anime characters. I dont enjoy darlifra or glorify it for this aspect. if someone dislikes darlifra for this reason i dont think its odd or strange, i just personally like the individual characters. would i trust the creators to be in the same room as me? probably not, but i dont hold this to the same standard as watching animated child porn. truthfully my list is fueled heavily by nostalgia from watching anime as a tween. im sure if i rewatched darlifra i probably would not like it as much as i did before. Again, I think its normal to find teenagers attractive, or use teenage sex to sell a show because they want it to be for teeangers. prepubescent children just isnt the same because whether its teenagers or adults its mad weird. |
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Kenzolo-folk said: Well, then you better avoid most anime, since pretty much everyone working on the industry, is either a lolicon, have friends that are lolicons, or at least have no problems with it. I mean yeah, looking back they dont really have adult designs. Even so, I dont think its as serious as sexualizing child-looking anime characters. I dont enjoy darlifra or glorify it for this aspect. if someone dislikes darlifra for this reason i dont think its odd or strange, i just personally like the individual characters. would i trust the creators to be in the same room as me? probably not, but i dont hold this to the same standard as watching animated child porn. truthfully my list is fueled heavily by nostalgia from watching anime as a tween. im sure if i rewatched darlifra i probably would not like it as much as i did before. Again, I think its normal to find teenagers attractive, or use teenage sex to sell a show because they want it to be for teeangers. prepubescent children just isnt the same because whether its teenagers or adults its mad weird. It's no wonder that when Japan tried to make lolicon illegal, there was an industry wide outcry against it, and it wasn't just those that made loli hentai that were against it. |
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Kenzolo-folk said:
I mean yeah, looking back they dont really have adult designs. Even so, I dont think its as serious as sexualizing child-looking anime characters. I dont enjoy darlifra or glorify it for this aspect. if someone dislikes darlifra for this reason i dont think its odd or strange, i just personally like the individual characters. would i trust the creators to be in the same room as me? probably not, but i dont hold this to the same standard as watching animated child porn. truthfully my list is fueled heavily by nostalgia from watching anime as a tween. im sure if i rewatched darlifra i probably would not like it as much as i did before.
Again, I think its normal to find teenagers attractive, or use teenage sex to sell a show because they want it to be for teeangers. prepubescent children just isnt the same because whether its teenagers or adults its mad weird.
Well, then you better avoid most anime, since pretty much everyone working on the industry, is either a lolicon, have friends that are lolicons, or at least have no problems with it. I mean yeah, looking back they dont really have adult designs. Even so, I dont think its as serious as sexualizing child-looking anime characters. I dont enjoy darlifra or glorify it for this aspect. if someone dislikes darlifra for this reason i dont think its odd or strange, i just personally like the individual characters. would i trust the creators to be in the same room as me? probably not, but i dont hold this to the same standard as watching animated child porn. truthfully my list is fueled heavily by nostalgia from watching anime as a tween. im sure if i rewatched darlifra i probably would not like it as much as i did before.
Again, I think its normal to find teenagers attractive, or use teenage sex to sell a show because they want it to be for teeangers. prepubescent children just isnt the same because whether its teenagers or adults its mad weird.
It's no wonder that when Japan tried to make lolicon illegal, there was an industry wide outcry against it, and it wasn't just those that made loli hentai that were against it.
| @MadanielFL i already know the japanese industry is riddled full of creeps. i can enjoy their art as long as their creepy fetishes dont seep into the work or they havent done anything illegal to some kid. you guys havent made anything worth looking at, you guys sit at your computers and jerk off to animated children and pretend its normal because its everywhere in this medium. just looking at ur profile you clearly enjoy loli pervert content and your creepy ass is scared of being told ur a pedo so ur jumping through these massive ass hurdles to pretend its normal. |
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Kenzolo-folk said: Then you are still giving them money by watching anime. i already know the japanese industry is riddled full of creeps. i can enjoy their art as long as their creepy fetishes dont seep into the work or they havent done anything illegal to some kid. if you think lolicon is bad and you think it should end, then the only thing you can do to stop it is by boycotting anime and not supporting anything from that industry. |
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Kenzolo-folk said:
i already know the japanese industry is riddled full of creeps. i can enjoy their art as long as their creepy fetishes dont seep into the work or they havent done anything illegal to some kid.
Then you are still giving them money by watching anime. i already know the japanese industry is riddled full of creeps. i can enjoy their art as long as their creepy fetishes dont seep into the work or they havent done anything illegal to some kid.
if you think lolicon is bad and you think it should end, then the only thing you can do to stop it is by boycotting anime and not supporting anything from that industry.
| @MadanielFL i pirate anime. idk if this is to make urself feel better, but not every person that creates animanga is into loli porn. some of them are normal, thats why they show actually curvy and/or grown women in their work rather than kids. Do you actually really like lolicon hentai or are you arguing with me because you suspect virtue signaling? |
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Kenzolo-folk said: They might not be into it, but if you were to go to Japan and personally ask them if they are in favor of banning loli stuff, they would most likely say no. idk if this is to make urself feel better, but not every person that creates animanga is into loli porn. some of them are normal, thats why they show actually curvy and/or grown women in their work rather than kids. Most people in the industry grew up watching anime that often features that type of stuff, like Monogatari, Gurren Lagan, the Dragon Ball manga and many other series, it's pretty safe to say that the entire industry is pro lolicon, even if they are not all lolicon themselves. |
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Kenzolo-folk said:
idk if this is to make urself feel better, but not every person that creates animanga is into loli porn. some of them are normal, thats why they show actually curvy and/or grown women in their work rather than kids.
They might not be into it, but if you were to go to Japan and personally ask them if they are in favor of banning loli stuff, they would most likely say no. idk if this is to make urself feel better, but not every person that creates animanga is into loli porn. some of them are normal, thats why they show actually curvy and/or grown women in their work rather than kids.
Most people in the industry grew up watching anime that often features that type of stuff, like Monogatari, Gurren Lagan, the Dragon Ball manga and many other series, it's pretty safe to say that the entire industry is pro lolicon, even if they are not all lolicon themselves.
| @MadanielFL Yeah and what ur telling me isnt new or surprising.. ive been said in this thread that japan is obsessed with this type of creepy stuff which is why so many fans are led to believe that what theyre watching is normal because its EVERYWHERE. I dont put japanese people on this pedestal, quite literally the opposite- so whatever some japanese person on the street says isnt gonna surprise me. Again, do you actually really like lolicon hentai or are you arguing with me because you suspect virtue signaling? |
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Kenzolo-folk said: Pirating anime doesn't change anything, you are still consuming it and creating a demand for it, and many people who pirate anime still talk about it on social media and with friends, which in turn might lead them to get into anime and spend money on it. Yeah and what ur telling me isnt new or surprising.. ive been said in this thread that japan is obsessed with this type of creepy stuff which is why so many fans are led to believe that what theyre watching is normal because its EVERYWHERE. I dont put japanese people on this pedestal, quite literally the opposite- so whatever some japanese person on the street says isnt gonna surprise me. Lolicon won't stop existing until everyone starts boycotting anime and the industry starts to lose money, because if things continue to be like they are, they will continue to make more of it and there's nothing you can do about it. |
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Kenzolo-folk said:
Yeah and what ur telling me isnt new or surprising.. ive been said in this thread that japan is obsessed with this type of creepy stuff which is why so many fans are led to believe that what theyre watching is normal because its EVERYWHERE. I dont put japanese people on this pedestal, quite literally the opposite- so whatever some japanese person on the street says isnt gonna surprise me.
Pirating anime doesn't change anything, you are still consuming it and creating a demand for it, and many people who pirate anime still talk about it on social media and with friends, which in turn might lead them to get into anime and spend money on it. Yeah and what ur telling me isnt new or surprising.. ive been said in this thread that japan is obsessed with this type of creepy stuff which is why so many fans are led to believe that what theyre watching is normal because its EVERYWHERE. I dont put japanese people on this pedestal, quite literally the opposite- so whatever some japanese person on the street says isnt gonna surprise me.
Lolicon won't stop existing until everyone starts boycotting anime and the industry starts to lose money, because if things continue to be like they are, they will continue to make more of it and there's nothing you can do about it.
| @MadanielFL Right.. except ive already long cemented the fact that these things will continue to exist. I never voiced that the industry has to ban lolicon no matter what it takes, because even tho i believe it shouldnt exist, the reality of that happening is less than 0. I wish people would ignore this shitty content and get locked up for enjoying it. Just like how child porn will always continue to exist because there will always be creeps out there somewhere selling disgusting shit. That doesn't mean I cant feel absolute disgust when someone openly talks about enjoying this type of content. What continues to surprise me is that the actual fans are engaging in this type of creepy shit and think its okay because its animated. |
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Right.. except ive already long cemented the fact that these things will continue to exist. I never voiced that the industry has to ban lolicon no matter what it takes, because even tho i believe it shouldnt exist, the reality of that happening is less than 0. I wish people would ignore this shitty content and get locked up for enjoying it.
Just like how child porn will always continue to exist because there will always be creeps out there somewhere selling disgusting shit. That doesn't mean I cant feel absolute disgust when someone openly talks about enjoying this type of content. What continues to surprise me is that the actual fans are engaging in this type of creepy shit and think its okay because its animated.
Right.. except ive already long cemented the fact that these things will continue to exist. I never voiced that the industry has to ban lolicon no matter what it takes, because even tho i believe it shouldnt exist, the reality of that happening is less than 0. I wish people would ignore this shitty content and get locked up for enjoying it.
Just like how child porn will always continue to exist because there will always be creeps out there somewhere selling disgusting shit. That doesn't mean I cant feel absolute disgust when someone openly talks about enjoying this type of content. What continues to surprise me is that the actual fans are engaging in this type of creepy shit and think its okay because its animated.
| @Kenzolo-folk IF it was an issue it would reflect in real world numbers. Japan has more lolicons than the rest of the world, but their rate of sex crimes involving children isn't higher. The result of murder in media, such as someone being cut in half with their insides all over the page/screen, doesn't make one less likely to continue the story. This disgust results in thrill which is dopamine. The end result is still exciting. However bring the level of disgust from a similar counterpart in an actual real world uncanny event and it will overwhelm the thrill. Not to mention empathy which in fiction is fickle is much stronger in real world situations |
| Anti-censorship, but honestly IDGAF here if they put more clothes on some half-naked lollies, I don't want to see that crap anyway. So it's a "...and nothing of value was lost" situation. |
KruszerMar 30, 1:20 AM
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| Funny that the poll explicitly asks for the opinion of people below 18, who are not even allowed to watch the Re:Zero 3 (P-17!), i.e. 17-year olds can watch it under supervision of a parent only. Still, the show doesn't go he full way for R+ or Rx, adult only. The goal to market to older teenager causes this, not "censorship". Age protection of children and teenagers is not at all censorship. There's plenty of Rx material which is perfectly legal in Europe, adults are not "censored" here. Kids are prevented from accessing material society agreed upon as "adult only". And it's not the "evil western wokeness pressure" causing this, in my native Germany https://myanimelist.net/anime/54722/Mahou_Shoujo_ni_Akogarete is rated 16+, and https://myanimelist.net/anime/40010/Ishuzoku_Reviewers was never canceled. Don't mix continental Europe witn the traditionally more prude Anglosphere, please. Each democracy has the degree of prudery their people demand, and the USA has a lot of fundamentalist Christians. To make that clear: censorship is a state intervention, like in Russia where positive depictions of homoxexuality will land you in jail or intensive care unit. What we see here is optimization of marketing of a show to children under 18. Abusing the term "censorship" on commercial optimization plays in the hands of blood-soaked dictators such as Putin, the Mullah regime, Saudi-Arabia and the many more contries with actual censorship. |
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