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Nov 24, 2023 7:42 PM
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Fun fact: The names Frieren, Himmel, Stark, Fern, Eisen, Heitel, and Flamme are words taken from the Scandi and Germanic languages (Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, and German) which represents their character's traits.

E.g., Fri(eren) is loosely translated as "The Free" or "The Frozen" in German, Himmel is "The Sky", Stark (or Stærk) is "The Strong", Flamme is "The Flame", Eisen is "The Iron", Heitel is "The Cheerful", and Fern can be translated as "The Detached" or Remote.

Source: I speak all of the above languages.
Nov 24, 2023 8:04 PM
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Is it not only simply german?

I mean, i think the mangaka just do a google translator Jap → Ger about some noum and yay, another name for a new character.

Rob7 said:
Ok one char or another, but EVERY of them being just stuff in german? lol

I think i can guess the next characters to be introduced:

Stein, Becher, Flasche, Mond, Sonne, Messer, Rad, Zahn, Ohr, Fuß, Arsch...

Rob7Nov 24, 2023 8:08 PM
Nov 24, 2023 8:34 PM
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Just now figuring this out?
Nov 24, 2023 8:53 PM
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No shit sherlock.
Nov 24, 2023 9:09 PM
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Neat, I didn't know that. I thought they were kind of weird names to be Japanese but didn't put much thought into it.
Nov 24, 2023 9:14 PM
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I'm pretty sure someone else brought this up already in discussion
Nov 24, 2023 9:17 PM
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Just a small issue, I’m sure Himmel is German for heaven not sky…
Although now i checked, it’s both
Nov 24, 2023 9:18 PM
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relhak said:
Fun fact: The names Frieren, Himmel, Stark, Fern, Eisen, Heitel, and Flamme are words taken from the Scandi and Germanic languages (Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, and German) which represents their character's traits.

E.g., Fri(eren) is loosely translated as "The Free" or "The Frozen" in German, Himmel is "The Sky", Stark (or Stærk) is "The Strong", Flamme is "The Flame", Eisen is "The Iron", Heitel is "The Cheerful", and Fern can be translated as "The Detached" or Remote.

Source: I speak all of the above languages.

damm nice i didn't knew that
Nov 24, 2023 10:10 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's just German but yeah it's really funny cause the names also give some sort of spoilers if you know German.

Oh you mean "Lügner" the demon is gonna lie???? 😯😯😯

(Lügner translates to Liar)
Nov 24, 2023 10:57 PM

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I saw this meme on Reddit the other day and it's kinda accurate.

Nov 25, 2023 12:07 AM
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All the names(even spells) in the whole world building are based on German words. Only some of the spells are loosely translated and that too is from the manga and not yet in the anime. It is actually pretty impressive to implement the same method for spells which is hard to do
Nov 25, 2023 12:13 AM

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Nov 25, 2023 12:36 AM

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relhak said:
Fun fact: The names Frieren, Himmel, Stark, Fern, Eisen, Heitel, and Flamme are words taken from the Scandi and Germanic languages (Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, and German) which represents their character's traits.

E.g., Fri(eren) is loosely translated as "The Free" or "The Frozen" in German, Himmel is "The Sky", Stark (or Stærk) is "The Strong", Flamme is "The Flame", Eisen is "The Iron", Heitel is "The Cheerful", and Fern can be translated as "The Detached" or Remote.

Source: I speak all of the above languages.

Wow so all of their names actually encompass their personalities too! Good catch.
Nov 25, 2023 3:16 AM

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relhak said:
Fun fact: The names Frieren, Himmel, Stark, Fern, Eisen, Heitel, and Flamme are words taken from the Scandi and Germanic languages (Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, and German) which represents their character's traits.

E.g., Fri(eren) is loosely translated as "The Free" or "The Frozen" in German, Himmel is "The Sky", Stark (or Stærk) is "The Strong", Flamme is "The Flame", Eisen is "The Iron", Heitel is "The Cheerful", and Fern can be translated as "The Detached" or Remote.

Source: I speak all of the above languages.

All of the names are German words, Frieren means 'to freeze' (or the noun 'freezing'). They are mostly just nouns without the article or adjectives, so:
  • Himmel → Heaven/Sky (the same word is used for both in German)
  • Eisen → Iron
  • Flamme → Flame
  • Heiter → Cheerful
  • Fern → Far/Distant
    etc.

Nov 25, 2023 3:50 AM
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Can you give me some Danish, Swedish and Norwegian examples? Because, as far as I know, they're all German.

Source: I'm a native German speaker, who is also reading the manga.
Nov 25, 2023 4:00 AM
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as someone who does not know those languages this are good trivia
Nov 25, 2023 4:28 AM
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deg said:
as someone who does not know those languages this are good trivia

indeed, i thought these are Japanese. the realization.
Nov 25, 2023 6:05 AM
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Kinda obvious for Europeans...
Nov 25, 2023 6:23 AM
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I did know just about Frieren after looking it up because it did sound familiar, didn't care about the others I know Kraft is also a German word but didn't know the meaning.
Nov 25, 2023 6:33 AM

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Interesting. Thanks.
Nov 25, 2023 7:24 AM
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lvlarcel said:
Can you give me some Danish, Swedish and Norwegian examples? Because, as far as I know, they're all German.

Source: I'm a native German speaker, who is also reading the manga.

Himmel in Danish and Swedish means Sky (but can also be Heaven, the word is used to describe both) - I thought it suited "Sky" more because of his sky-blue hair.
Frieren - can be interpreted as "Free", Danish: Fri. Frieren also has the more direct translation in the Scandi languages as "Suitor" or "Proposer".
Stark or Stærk in Norwegian/Danish would be "Strong"
The only wprds that dont fit are Eisen and Heitel as their Danish/Swedish/Norwegian counterpart are "Jern" and "Glad" or "Munter" respectively.
The Scandinavian languages, and to an extent, Germanic languages are very similar and share a common root, so many words are similar across all languages.
Nov 25, 2023 7:25 AM
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billybub said:
Just now figuring this out?

Yup, because i only just began watching the series. Hadn't heard of it before, so I didn't know how common this knowledge was.
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relhak said:
lvlarcel said:
Can you give me some Danish, Swedish and Norwegian examples? Because, as far as I know, they're all German.

Source: I'm a native German speaker, who is also reading the manga.

Himmel in Danish and Swedish means Sky (but can also be Heaven, the word is used to describe both) - I thought it suited "Sky" more because of his sky-blue hair.
Frieren - can be interpreted as "Free", Danish: Fri. Frieren also has the more direct translation in the Scandi languages as "Suitor" or "Proposer".
Stark or Stærk in Norwegian/Danish would be "Strong"
The only wprds that dont fit are Eisen and Heitel as their Danish/Swedish/Norwegian counterpart are "Jern" and "Glad" or "Munter" respectively.
The Scandinavian languages, and to an extent, Germanic languages are very similar and share a common root, so many words are similar across all languages.

hmmm, interesting.

Yeah, in German "Himmel" has the same meaning (sky/heaven), "Frieren" in German means "(to be) freezing", probably referring to Frieren's cold personality.

They're all Germanic languages, so the overlap of some words makes sense, I was just wondering if there are any examples of Scandinavian names, that do not make sense in German, cause I don't remember there being any.
Nov 25, 2023 7:36 AM
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Piromysl said:
I saw this meme on Reddit the other day and it's kinda accurate.


Nice. I didn't know that existed. However, I would disagree with the translation of Frieren as I dont feel that it properly describes her character. I would use Free or Frozen instead, as she can/could live for decades without realizing time passed by. Similarly, her looks doesn't change after hundreds of years giving her the impression that she has been frozen in time. Lastly, she's free and travels where she wants, and does what she wants on a whim, unburdened by personal relationships.

For Himmel, I would say that "Sky" is better, simply because of his Sky blue hair. Moreover, Sky goes nicely with Frieren's "Free" interpretation. How the Free longs for the Sky now after it is gone.

Heitel could be translated as "Merry", but I've always had a negative connotation of that word, i.e., as Merry would imply mindless joy. I feel "Cheerful" is a more accurate and better translation and description of his character.

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