zharnotczar said: StrangeBlackCat said: I could say the same of any other genre.I don't think i want to argue that there is no musicianship in RAP.. What I'd say is the musicianship that revolves around rap is VERY low quality. As you stated of course there is shit in each genre.. but almost all the rap genre as a whole is low quality over all. |
StrangeBlackCat said: As you stated of course there is shit in each genre.. but almost all the indie genre as a whole is low quality over all.zharnotczar said: StrangeBlackCat said: I could say the same of any other genre.I don't think i want to argue that there is no musicianship in RAP.. What I'd say is the musicianship that revolves around rap is VERY low quality. As you stated of course there is shit in each genre.. but almost all the rap genre as a whole is low quality over all. Do you see what I just did there? |
| It all boils down to subjectivity. My opinion is more important than yours, therefore, RAP sucks over all. |
StrangeBlackCat said: Don't try and twist the words around to appear as though you've won the argument.It all boils down to subjectivity. My opinion is more important than yours, therefore, RAP sucks over all. |
| I'm sorry you see it that way. I'm not here to win or lose what you'd see as an 'argument'. |
Jimbow said: Since we're talking about hiphop anyway, I think the only quality hiphop is the underground stuff that hardly anyone knows. Stuff like The Dynospectrum, Atmosphere, Sage Francis and Sol.Illaquists of Sound is what hiphop should be famous about. Damn straight!! |
| Those comments and actually like 99% of YT comments reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyYaPWasos Addicting song. |
StrangeBlackCat said: Sorry about my last post. I had been drinking a little bit.I'm sorry you see it that way. I'm not here to win or lose what you'd see as an 'argument'. |
| He's just doing it for the attention. LAME! =_= |
zharnotczar said: alexcampos said: Bullshit. I dislike rap just as much as any other guy, but there is musicianship. Please. Rap for me this instant. Do as well as any popular artists today. Show me that there's no musicianship involved.I don't care if it's mainstream, underground, or any other hip hop, I don't like it because there is NO MUSICIANSHIP. It's a guy rapping to a looping beat, THAT'S IT!!! Any idiot can rap, and just like this clown (soulja boy) any idiot can "successfully" influence the industry. So I ask you, if you're not singing and there are no instruments, how in the hell can this be called music??? Musicianship: knowledge, skill, and artistic sensitivity in performing music. Rap has no skill (for example playing an instrument is a skill) Rap has no artistic anything (Yeah OK, maybe some do, but the other 99% DON'T) Rapping about bitches, violence, and your "homies" is not artistic, I'm fucking tired of all this "street" shit. I'll admit that the beats are catchy and sometimes even well made, but the lyrics are so horrible that it really makes you wonder if listening to Disney songs would be a better alternative. |
| Wow. Just.....wow..... |
alexcampos said: Musicianship: knowledge, skill, and artistic sensitivity in performing music. Pop has no skill (for example playing an instrument is a skill) Pop has no artistic anything (Yeah OK, maybe some do, but the other 99% DON'T) Pop-ing about love, happiness, and your "friends" is not artistic, I'm fucking tired of all this "pleasant" shit. I'll admit that the beats are catchy and sometimes even well made, but the lyrics are so horrible that it really makes you wonder if listening to Disney songs would be a better alternative. I can easily use your argument against any genre. |
zharnotczar said: alexcampos said: Musicianship: knowledge, skill, and artistic sensitivity in performing music. Pop has no skill (for example playing an instrument is a skill) Pop has no artistic anything (Yeah OK, maybe some do, but the other 99% DON'T) Pop-ing about love, happiness, and your "friends" is not artistic, I'm fucking tired of all this "pleasant" shit. I'll admit that the beats are catchy and sometimes even well made, but the lyrics are so horrible that it really makes you wonder if listening to Disney songs would be a better alternative. I can easily use your argument against any genre. Try using it for rock, R&B, and jazz. |
alexcampos said: Musicianship: knowledge, skill, and artistic sensitivity in performing music. Rock has no skill (for example playing an instrument is a skill) Rock has no artistic anything (Yeah OK, maybe some do, but the other 99% DON'T) Rocking about drugs, sex, and "fun" is not artistic, I'm fucking tired of all this "rocker" shit. I'll admit that the beats are catchy and sometimes even well made, but the lyrics are so horrible that it really makes you wonder if listening to Disney songs would be a better alternative. Musicianship: knowledge, skill, and artistic sensitivity in performing music. R&B has no skill (for example playing an instrument is a skill) R&B has no artistic anything (Yeah OK, maybe some do, but the other 99% DON'T) R&Bing about "whatever R&B could be about (I'm not too familiar with this genre)" is not artistic, I'm fucking tired of all this "(whatever)" shit. I'll admit that the beats are catchy and sometimes even well made, but the lyrics are so horrible that it really makes you wonder if listening to Disney songs would be a better alternative. Musicianship: knowledge, skill, and artistic sensitivity in performing music. Jazz has no skill (for example playing an instrument is a skill) Jazz has no artistic anything (Yeah OK, maybe some do, but the other 99% DON'T) Jazzing about love, sadness, and "anything really" is not artistic, I'm fucking tired of all this "anything" shit. I'll admit that the beats are catchy and sometimes even well made, but the lyrics are so horrible that it really makes you wonder if listening to Disney songs would be a better alternative. My word choice got lazy, but it's very possible. |
| Ok, this is getting out of hand, those last ones don't even make sense. |
alexcampos said: I'll admit, the one about R&B was stupid, but the other two have just as much relevance as your does.Ok, this is getting out of hand, those last ones don't even make sense. |
| Laaaame. Totally lame. |
alexcampos said: If rap has no skill, and I can't rap, what does this mean? That I have no skill? But wait, rap takes no skills. That I do have skill? So that I can't rap?Musicianship: knowledge, skill, and artistic sensitivity in performing music. Rap has no skill (for example playing an instrument is a skill) Rap has no artistic anything (Yeah OK, maybe some do, but the other 99% DON'T) Rapping about bitches, violence, and your "homies" is not artistic, I'm fucking tired of all this "street" shit. |
| Lol If this isn't a joke, it's damned funny. When's it out?!? And that song was like a clone of Nears theme!! |
| fuck soulja boy |
 Xiaoling Squirrel; baddest rodent in the forest. |
| LOOOOOOOOOOOL. Soulja, oh you. |
| I know he sucks but who cares if he likes Death note? |
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| wtf... xD |
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cncfan said: I know he sucks but who cares if he likes Death note? someone didn't read the thread |
| He stole my new album idea! |
alexcampos said: zharnotczar said: alexcampos said: Bullshit. I dislike rap just as much as any other guy, but there is musicianship. Please. Rap for me this instant. Do as well as any popular artists today. Show me that there's no musicianship involved.I don't care if it's mainstream, underground, or any other hip hop, I don't like it because there is NO MUSICIANSHIP. It's a guy rapping to a looping beat, THAT'S IT!!! Any idiot can rap, and just like this clown (soulja boy) any idiot can "successfully" influence the industry. So I ask you, if you're not singing and there are no instruments, how in the hell can this be called music??? Musicianship: knowledge, skill, and artistic sensitivity in performing music. Rap has no skill (for example playing an instrument is a skill) Rap has no artistic anything (Yeah OK, maybe some do, but the other 99% DON'T) Rapping about bitches, violence, and your "homies" is not artistic, I'm fucking tired of all this "street" shit. I'll admit that the beats are catchy and sometimes even well made, but the lyrics are so horrible that it really makes you wonder if listening to Disney songs would be a better alternative. I can understand your point but rap does take skill it has changed. You have to go back to the "old school" to find rap which has skill in it. For example: This song came out in 1994 and still describes the state of hip hop 16 years later. So tell me that making a song which is still relevant 16 years later takes no skill. Oh he is talking about rap in the song by the way :) |
The comments were quite funny though. |
Nabi123 said: alexcampos said: zharnotczar said: alexcampos said: Bullshit. I dislike rap just as much as any other guy, but there is musicianship. Please. Rap for me this instant. Do as well as any popular artists today. Show me that there's no musicianship involved.I don't care if it's mainstream, underground, or any other hip hop, I don't like it because there is NO MUSICIANSHIP. It's a guy rapping to a looping beat, THAT'S IT!!! Any idiot can rap, and just like this clown (soulja boy) any idiot can "successfully" influence the industry. So I ask you, if you're not singing and there are no instruments, how in the hell can this be called music??? Musicianship: knowledge, skill, and artistic sensitivity in performing music. Rap has no skill (for example playing an instrument is a skill) Rap has no artistic anything (Yeah OK, maybe some do, but the other 99% DON'T) Rapping about bitches, violence, and your "homies" is not artistic, I'm fucking tired of all this "street" shit. I'll admit that the beats are catchy and sometimes even well made, but the lyrics are so horrible that it really makes you wonder if listening to Disney songs would be a better alternative. I can understand your point but rap does take skill it has changed. You have to go back to the "old school" to find rap which has skill in it. For example: This song came out in 1994 and still describes the state of hip hop 16 years later. So tell me that making a song which is still relevant 16 years later takes no skill. Oh he is talking about rap in the song by the way :) Yes alexcampos read this guys speech & learn |
| thats sad , just vey sad and pathetic |
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