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Sep 9, 2023 11:13 AM
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TLDR: a rant about a romance anime, so pls keep it civil if you care about this stuff yall!

To be honest, her unable to make a decision is not even an issue. The real problem lies in her lack of communication with her fiance, she seems to not listen to what he has to say like almost all the time (he told her that she should tell him how she feels but she refuses to, what is on her mind that is bothering her, or her problems with nightmares even though he had made it crystal clear that she need to communicate with him and tell him about those things), you can't have a functional relationship if one person doesn't listen to the other. She thinks of herself as being a bother to her fiance even though he went out of his way to tell her that that is not the case. He tried to make sure that he and she could bond as a couple through proper communication, but she just didn't want to listen to what he had to say and thus did just not understand him at all (which is also weird since her character is supposed be the type who listen to and do whatever the people around her say, but to the only person that she should listen to, which is her loving husband, she didn't). It's annoying when the husband is trying his best to communicate with the wife to build their relationship only for her to refuses to listen even one bit. Had she listened to him, none of the indecisiveness shenanigans would have happened and they wouldn't have turned an issue in the first place. All of which makes it feel like she doesn't even love him (but she does, and the contradiction is where I feel like the rom wasn't natural )

Bonus nitpick: When he got shot, she didn't even react or respond, or try to yell out to the guy with the gun to stop like she didn't even care. Only when he was beaten did she run out to him. Which is kinda weird, She worries that her husband would be overworked because of her being around but she didn't even flinch at the sight of him actually getting shot at and in danger.
A-lil-weeb-dogSep 9, 2023 4:21 PM
Sep 9, 2023 11:24 AM
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You just ignored what kind of personality Miyo has because of her upbringing. That's one of the first things that the series shows you and you failed to recognize it, understand it.
Miyo won't be able to talk until she thinks they are equal in that relationship. Miyo currently thinks she is inferior to Kudo and does not deserve him until she becomes stronger.
You won't change that thinking in a day or two.
Sep 9, 2023 11:28 AM
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I can see how Miyo’s actions can be frustrating, but as someone who grew up being abused in similar ways I see her as an accurate portrayal of an emotional abuse victim. She absolutely is not setting up a healthy foundation for a relationship and her communication/expressions are not helping her in anyway, but complex PTSD really does a number on a person and their thought patterns and behaviors. Something that, simply being out of the situation for a couple of months, if that, won’t erase.

It’s difficult to watch her suffer like this and in some ways make her current situation worse for herself, but I think watching her road to recovery will be a big part of the payoff of this series. I really appreciate that it isn’t depicting her story as simply as “she moved away from her evil family and all her problems went away” and I think the romance will be stronger for it.

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I said I'm gonna do my best!!
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Sep 9, 2023 11:38 AM
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Pffffff..... What is with all these people? What is wrong with all of you? What problem do you have with Myo? Like for real now. A personality can't be changed in a few days/weeks . It takes months maybe years to change.😰😰
Sep 9, 2023 11:39 AM
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Honestly I at least partially agree. I fully understand that her life was traumatic and that she would act like this especially because it's the very beginning of their relationship. Unfortunately I still think it's kind of irritating especially when Kudou risks his life twice for her. Hasn't he proved that he cares about her? Also it's a story, things don't have to be fully realistic, her getting better even a little bit would have been nice. The main reason it hasn't is for the drama which just makes said drama feel contrived. I guess this story just isn't for me anymore. I really liked the beginning though, idk what changed for me to go from fully liking Miyo to being kind of annoyed by her.
Sep 9, 2023 11:41 AM
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Pffffff..... What is with all these people? What is wrong with all of you? What problem do you have with Myo? Like for real now. A personality can't be changed in a few days/weeks . It takes months maybe years to change.😰😰
@Sterall Because anime fans love victim blaming.
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Sep 9, 2023 11:44 AM
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RobertsahDHDA said:
@Sterall Because anime fans love victim blaming.

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Sep 9, 2023 12:08 PM
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Bro, just because can't understand her plight and what she went thought doesn't mean she is poorly written or anything. When someone was confined their entire life and every decision was made for them, it's obvious that they won't know what to do once their circumstances improve. It is literally as if a therapist would try to blame an abuse victim.

It's really cringe when people think that character development is like a flipping a switch and Miyo would immidietly do a complete 180* just because Kaya is gone, while in fact it is a gradual process, that in some works can take entire story.
People seem to completely omit the fact that in earlier episode they had an argument, after which Miyo started to believe she is nothing but a burden and began to question wether they should even marry, which makes her not being able to answer the question totally consistent with her characterization.
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Sep 9, 2023 12:42 PM
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A-lil-weeb-dog said:
Bonus nitpick: When he got shot, she didn't even react or respond, or try to yell out to the guy with the gun to stop like she didn't even care. Only when he was beaten did she run out to him. Which is kinda weird, She worries that her husband would be overworked because of her being around but she didn't even flinch at the sight of him actually getting shot at and in danger.


Seems unintended. They didn't cut back to her, so her not reacting is not shown either. If they wanted to make a point of it they would of cut to her having no reaction.
They either cut any reaction there because it would disrupt the flow of the fight with too much pausing or because they didn't know how to make it be irrelevant to the fight without adding unnecessary things like the old man stopping her twice.

If she scream and he looked at her wouldn't you be calling her an idiot for distracting someone that was in life/death combat?
Sep 9, 2023 12:57 PM
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It is almost like she was raised to never talk to the other people, just follow orders. Weird.
Sep 10, 2023 12:23 AM
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tbh I first really liked Miyo but her indecisiveness, her always keeping herself shut just makes me puty Kudo like he is a really good person and just seeing him desperately trying to get a hold on Miyo make me sad. The directors could have worked to make her correct a little more loving but they t
did not. I am now disappointed in Miyo and am only watching to finish it.


First half was much better than 2nd
Sep 10, 2023 3:16 AM
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How are people still not getting it, it's like when re:zero came out all over again
Sep 10, 2023 3:39 AM
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Bro, just because can't understand her plight and what she went thought doesn't mean she is poorly written or anything. When someone was confined their entire life and every decision was made for them, it's obvious that they won't know what to do once their circumstances improve. It is literally as if a therapist would try to blame an abuse victim.

It's really cringe when people think that character development is like a flipping a switch and Miyo would immidietly do a complete 180* just because Kaya is gone, while in fact it is a gradual process, that in some works can take entire story.
People seem to completely omit the fact that in earlier episode they had an argument, after which Miyo started to believe she is nothing but a burden and began to question wether they should even marry, which makes her not being able to answer the question totally consistent with her characterization.
@Piromysl Trauma is still stuck with her that she can't even call Hazuki "big sis"
Sep 11, 2023 3:02 PM

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I find absolutely no issue with Miyo having these flaws, she has a right to be a severely flawed character because of her history. Many people here are upset because it has only been a short amount of time, and trauma does not heal that quickly. I agree with that sentiment.

I think, reading through this post, the frustration is more-so with the concept of character development in story-telling. This is an anime. It is a work of fiction, and while I don't think the story should magically cure all of Miyo's afflictions, it feels unproductive because there is no sense of progress. Most good stories show character development in one way or another. Miyo has become less groveling and more independent. But in dramatic interactions between Miyo and her husband, where it feels like progress should be made, it feels unfulfilling when nothing comes of the emotion.

This is just my take on the conversation. I don't really care if no one agrees.
Sep 11, 2023 9:24 PM
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(Not responding directly to OP - just adding to the general conversation)

People who are abused are human too. Just cause someone faces abuse does not mean they're automatically incompetent and unable to work shit out. I hate the practice of justifying abuse victims acting ridiculous cause "but how could they know how to do normal things when they were abused!?" It's just so insulting. People who have gone through abuse can be held to the same standards as anyone else.

I can understand why Miyo acts the way she does, to a degree. And it's important to understand where she's coming from, for sure. But that doesn't mean that her behavior is justified or acceptable. She deserves having someone tell her that she is FOR REAL being ridiculous, and that if she wants to actually try and help the situation then she should start by actually listening to what people are trying to tell her and communicate. It's wild that she's obsessed with trying to be a great wife yet she repeatedly ignores what her husband actually wants.

But what makes it particularly frustrating is that it seems like everyone in the story is just going to coddle her and treat her like this fragile victim. Immediately after the fiance gets a little upset with her, he beats himself up over what he said. BRO. It's not YOUR fault that Miyo is acting wack af - you've actually done a good job trying to support her! It's just gonna be annoying if the narrative plays out in a way where Miyo is excused for acting in an unreasonable manner cause she was an abuse victim, but everyone else is expected to be 100% emotionally controlled or else they're considered in the wrong somehow.

Anyway, we'll see how this series plays out. I just hope Miyo comes away from all this being like, "Hey, sorry, I actually was being ridiculous. Thanks for sticking with me and trying to help me out, I appreciate it."
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Sep 12, 2023 8:23 PM
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I think Miyo's real problem is that her character after the kidnapping (episode 6, if I'm not wrong, her peak) took a step forward in terms of her development, but in these last episodes she went back again and became the same Miyo she was when she barely knew Kudo. She's just not being consistent right now, which I have to admit, is a little frustrating. But I want to think that it is natural because of her past, since she is still finding her true identity and her way of expressing herself.

Partly, I think that's what really bothers me about Miyo (although I like her in general). People criticizing her by saying that she is "stupid" seems to me to be an act worthy of the Saimori family that they surely criticized so much in the beginning. What they call "dumb" is absolutely natural, because she never learned to express herself correctly, adding that she lives in a sexist and classist world. Her mother died when she was little and her father was never really good to her, so she practically grew up in an environment without her father and mother figures. Her stepmother and stepsister treated her like dirty rags ad nauseam, and there weren't many people who really defended her. Of course you create thousands of insecurities and a terrible self-image in that situation. Miyo is not stupid. The barbaric thing about her is what I mentioned before, that despite having shown signs of maturity, she returned to being the same submissive from the beginning who is not able to express her humble desires. I hope that she really takes flight again as far as her character is concerned, since in this second half of the season compared to the first, she has left something to be desired.
Sep 13, 2023 1:11 AM
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When she does start to have proper development we will probably never see it as the anime won’t go that far.
Sep 15, 2023 2:51 PM

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I can't with Miyo anymore, It's like she's apologizing for existing to everything and everyone.. Gurl stop. I can't. Every single episode she will apologize. Please.
Sep 15, 2023 6:40 PM
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It is almost like she was raised to never talk to the other people, just follow orders. Weird.
@Polvo_Aranha Her husband ordered her to tell him when she is bothered by something though?
Sep 15, 2023 6:42 PM
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@Polvo_Aranha Her husband ordered her to tell him when she is bothered by something though?

You can't just stop doing something you were forced to do all the time your whole life, to the point it becomes an instinct, of a sudden.
Sep 15, 2023 6:53 PM
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The thing about Miyo that is annoying me in the recent episodes is that there has been practically no development in the way she thinks. If anything it has actually regressed since episode 6. People who disagree with OP in this thread are accusing him of not understanding Miyo's character and how abuse victims think in these situations, but I disagree. OP never stated that she had to instantly get over her trauma or that she's stupid. The real issue is that the story is exclusively coddling her at this stage and her mentality has REGRESSED. People claim that her healing will take time, which I agree with...but in episode 6 we saw that she grew to the point where she could actually say no to her abusive family. A clear progression in her character and a display of trust and faith in her husband. Fast forward to recent episodes and suddenly she doesn't want to listen to him even when he's telling her EXACTLY what he wants from her?

I can understand her mindset to a certain extent. She's shifted to wanting to be a more "worthy" wife and she feels like she can't be coddled by him anymore. Cool. But why is it that when her husband, whom it was established she implicitly trusts and has faith in, tells her that she can open up to him and tell him when she's hurting whenever she wants that she suddenly loses this faith in him? She thinks she'll be a burden to him, but my sister in Christ...he's pretty much spelled it out to you that you AREN'T a burden to him? What makes this even worse is that people are saying that this is because she hasn't gotten over her upbringing and how she was raised to live and think. But if she went by that mentality she'd literally listen to him because he's the one who is the authority in her life now. So which is it? It just doesn't make any sense.

No one is saying that she has to do a complete 180 in character and not have any internal struggles, but this is genuinely ridiculous and illogical.
Sep 15, 2023 6:55 PM
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@Polvo_Aranha Her husband ordered her to tell him when she is bothered by something though?

You can't just stop doing something you were forced to do all the time your whole life, to the point it becomes an instinct, of a sudden.
@Polvo_Aranha Yea I agree with you...hence why I brought up my question. She was forced to listen to her superiors and do what they asked. Yet we see her clearly disobeying her superior (at least in her eyes since she literally states she isn't on even footing with her husband) and refuse to tell him when she's struggling. It's a contradiction.
Sep 15, 2023 6:57 PM
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It isn't something you change from one moment to another. It's a stair, with many steps.
Sep 15, 2023 9:24 PM
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It isn't something you change from one moment to another. It's a stair, with many steps.
@Polvo_Aranha And I'm telling you that's my point...you're saying that it isn't changed quickly yet it clearly has. She's literally disobeying her husband.
Sep 16, 2023 12:44 PM

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I just find the show a frustrating watch, somewhat agree with everyone's chimes in the forum, and I agree not everyone reacts the same to a situation/event especially when abused however its still painful as a viewer to watch the terrible communication that if done better could solve/help issues very easily.
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