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If this is the original dragon ball Z but without the filler, then what kind of logic has made it score lower?

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Jun 6, 2023 5:12 AM
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I mean, you would expect the better version, to be rated..... better. 
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Jun 6, 2023 5:17 AM
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nostalgia and the bruce falconer score not being in it I guess, people loved that
Jun 7, 2023 1:36 AM
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Yea this is definitely the better of the two, and if you were new to DB should watch Kai over Z. If you finish all of DB and really like it then that’s when you watch the extra stuff "DBZ"
Jun 7, 2023 1:38 AM
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I don't know I have only watched the original version. My friend who has wached both versions told me he didn't like some new censorship they introduced.
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Jun 7, 2023 2:31 AM
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I think what people were expecting was a complete do overs on the fights to make it much more appealing
Jun 7, 2023 2:39 AM
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Apolygon2 said:
I mean, you would expect the better version, to be rated..... better. 


The change in the musics and the censorship were the 2 main problems pointed out when it was airing.
There is also some scenes where you can clearly see a cut happened , with characters teleporting from one scene to another , due to the useless extented scenes being removed. (Especially noticeable in the Freezer/Namek Arc.)

But overall , it's just nostalgia blindfolded fans , even going as far as saying fillers were good when only a very few of them were actually of good quality and/or funny.
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Jun 7, 2023 3:17 AM
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I just binged the whole dragon ball series recently including gt and I only watched kai for Z. I thought it was great. The pacing of the original, which I tried to watch for 50 episodes at first, was abysmal to say the least. Definitely had a better time after switching to kai. Also I still found the ost really good. Some of it ends up being reused in super as well.
Jun 7, 2023 3:22 AM
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I honestly loved both DBZ and Kai but Kai follows the manga to a T and less filler arcs * better acting quality by Chris sabat, Sean Schemmel and Colleen Clinkenbeard etc though the only issue I see is less blood due to modern day FCC standards in Japan nowadays but not completely removed like hunter X Hunter 2011 and fairy Tail etc
Jun 7, 2023 9:17 AM
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They took out the episode where piccolo and goku learn to drive cars
Jun 12, 2023 11:12 AM

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It's better than the Z in my opinion and don't know why it's rated low than Dbz but it's still good score and it's better than dbz in alot of Way's, the ops r amazing and the animation didn't approve that much tbh but still better than Dbz og and also no filler and more shorter it's good in alot of ways so idk why tho i grow with db kai instead of z
Jun 12, 2023 11:18 AM

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HERO123456 said:
the animation didn't approve that much tbh but still better than Dbz og


Uh , no...

Aside from a very few shots who got redrawns/recolored , 99% of Kai is directly taken from the episodes of Z , no improvement was made.
It even was the biggest disappointment of the fans when episode 1 dropped , especially with the opening , which sold dreams for fans.
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Jun 12, 2023 11:23 AM

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Alexioos95 said:
HERO123456 said:
the animation didn't approve that much tbh but still better than Dbz og


Uh , no...

Aside from a very few shots who got redrawns/recolored , 99% of Kai is directly taken from the episodes of Z , no improvement was made.
It even was the biggest disappointment of the fans when episode 1 dropped , especially with the opening , which sold dreams for fans.
Alexioos95 said:
HERO123456 said:
the animation didn't approve that much tbh but still better than Dbz og


Uh , no...

Aside from a very few shots who got redrawns/recolored , 99% of Kai is directly taken from the episodes of Z , no improvement was made.
It even was the biggest disappointment of the fans when episode 1 dropped , especially with the opening , which sold dreams for fans.
I love it tho and i don't think most of the people were disappointed maybe it was only u, so far i have met people who r satisfied with the Db kai but that might be the people who started Db with kai i think and openings r actually the best in Kai and everyone will approve doesn't matter if they watched Og or kai, guess it's just u lol
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Jun 12, 2023 11:46 AM

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HERO123456 said:
i don't think most of the people were disappointed maybe it was only u


I can ensure you that no.
You can search for old forums from 2009 , and you'll see that it was a huge letdown. (Especially since it was advertised as a re-animation , with the opening getting released in first.)

HERO123456 said:
i think and openings r actually the best in Kai and everyone will approve doesn't matter if they watched Og or kai, guess it's just u lol


Uuf , that's definitely a hot take.

Absolutely no one ever thought Dragon Soul was better than Cha-La Head-Cha-La or We Gotta Power. (Or Dan dan Kokoro from GT)
The whole OSTs changes was one of the points which made the fans gnash , and it's exactly why we got special DVDs fixing it outside of Japan. (A few fan-groups even planned to do it themselves before it was announced.)

You and the ones you asked that are definitely in the minority , and it's not even a question.
So yeah , it's definitely a "you" problem. x)
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Jun 12, 2023 9:16 PM

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Alexioos95 said:
So yeah , it's definitely a "you" problem
the same goes for u, doesn't mean if u didn't liked it so everybody doesn't like it either lol, it's okay man u don't have to prove anything bro
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Jun 13, 2023 9:24 AM

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I've watched both DBZ was fine back in his time on TV but his pace is too slow for our world so KAI is the way. Too bad KAI isnt as polished as except.
Jun 13, 2023 8:19 PM

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Its definitely Bruce Flaconer score. DBZ fans arent here for anything else besides that and fights.
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Aug 12, 2023 6:24 PM
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It may doesn't have filler, but it also censor some of the fights, and blood that Dragon Ball Z had. 
Aug 17, 2023 7:14 PM

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i have a full review on the DBK on this, but i will put this in short -
DBK wasn't truly a remake but more of a cut version of DBZ. as key of speaking, while the animation looked sharper in HD, it was the same animation, but instead having the old DBZ, you just got shorter DBZ. so it's not considered as "new anime" or "remake" speaking of. and the fact that the opening spoils key moments telling that DBK wasn't supposed to be it's own thing, but "re-airing" the old anime in shorter way.
i'm saying that specially as manga reader, DBK made lots of bold cuts but didn't changed the story to be more manga-ish. great example for this - goku never struggled with frieza in the manga after going supersaya one bit, but in DBK they didn't even bothered to cut his beating up by frieza. and the more you go to cell arc, the less they care about cutting fillers as a matter of fact.
and i won't even start talking about the 2nd DBK. hell doesn't exist in the manga.

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you know what? let's be more bold. did you know that in the manga, the super sayan transforming in frieza arc was only two panels, and that's that
just go to this thread and see how people felt disappointed from the original manga, and you will know why DBK considered worse by fans
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=330495
(you should see me justify the manga though lol)
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Oct 12, 2023 2:28 PM
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It's just re-using the animation of Dragon Ball Z but cutting out everything that wasn't in the manga, and it feels like a lazy route to take in comparison to shows that got a full-on remake. Dragon Ball Kai is not the better version. It's basically a long recap of DBZ. If you've already seen DBZ, you've already seen Dragon Ball Kai too as it's not a new experience at all, so it won't be as exciting as watching DBZ for the first time (and you can easily skip the filler episodes by using a filler guide anyway). Would've been more exciting if this was a remake as it'd feel like a new experience, but I've never heard of already complete adaptations of anime ever getting a remake. Dragon Ball Kai is strictly for people who have never watched DBZ before, and even then, they're supposed to watch the original Dragon Ball first, which didn't even get any sort of deleting all the filler treatment. Red Dead Redemption re-release is sort of in a similar situation, as the game is neither a remake nor remaster, just a lazy port, but they're charging almost full price for a 13 year old game.

I also think it's odd that they didn't do the same with Dragon Ball first. It's also slow-paced and has fillers. But they just went straight to Z.
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Oct 12, 2023 2:33 PM

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its just not as good lol
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Oct 14, 2023 4:48 PM

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For a short review here's My review on Kai

- The Faulconer score not being there, it really made those epic moments a lot more memorable.
- The new animated scenes and art just stuck out like a sore thumb, it didn't fit the original scenes at all.
- The faster pace at times did help but at other times it just makes the scenes less emotional or impactful.

Basically they tried to make it have a better pace at the cost of everything that made DBZ stand out in the first place.
And don't even get me started on Kai 2014 ... My review on Kai 2014
Oct 14, 2023 4:56 PM

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The filler of Z was hilarious. Cutting the comedy destroys the action comedy balance the og had. I loved episodes like where Goku bathed in magma, and had a chic try to seduce him to eat him.
Oct 15, 2023 12:50 PM

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The filler of Z was hilarious. Cutting the comedy destroys the action comedy balance the og had. I loved episodes like where Goku bathed in magma, and had a chic try to seduce him to eat him.
@rohan121 Or Piccolo and Goku trying to get their drivers license ..
You're definitely right though, it's one of the reasons why Kai just didnt do it for me.
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I found something interesting on
nyaa. si
https://nyaa.si/view/1552813
It's most probably the best dbz experience you can get with Bruce Faulconer music,no dragged out episodes and better voice acting

And if you really wanna bitch about the fillers then why not just watch them when you want to

I also found another site where you can watch the original dbz eps with Faulconer music
https://watch-dbz55.funonline.co.in/dragon-ball-z/

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