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Nov 25, 2022 10:08 AM
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Kanye West announces 2024 presidential bid

Rapper Kanye West has said he intends to run for US president in 2024, despite facing several scandals over his recent behaviour.

The star, who has legally changed his name to Ye, posted a video of his campaign logo to social media, alongside the caption Ye 24.

He also claimed to have asked Donald Trump to be his running mate.

West previously ran for president in 2020, but that campaign flopped, attracting a meagre 70,000 votes.

His latest claims came in a video posted after West was spotted at Trump's Mar-A-Lago golf club earlier this week, accompanied by Nick Fuentes, a prominent white nationalist.

West said his request for a running mate left the former president, who recently launched his own re-election campaign, "most perturbed".

In a video titled Mar-A-Lago Debrief, West claimed: "Trump started basically screaming at me at the table, telling me I'm going to lose. Has that ever worked for anyone in history?"

The launch of West's campaign comes as the rapper faces a number of damaging controversies.

He provoked a storm of criticism after attending Paris Fashion Week in a T-shirt bearing the slogan "White Lives Matter" - a phrase adopted by white supremacists, who began using it in 2015 as a response to the Black Lives Matter movement.

West then claimed his critics were being paid by a secret cabal of Jewish people, a common trope of antisemitism.

As he continued to make antisemitic comments online and in television interviews, the 45-year-old was dropped by his talent agency, while fashion companies including Gap, Adidas and Balenciaga said they would no longer work with him.

The musician later commented that he had lost "two billion dollars in one day".

Earlier this week, Rolling Stone magazine reported claims that West had used "porn, bullying and mind games" to create a "toxic environment" among Adidas employees working on his Yeezy brand shoes.

The company said on Thursday it had launched an independent investigation into the claims.

When West ran for president in 2020, he announced his campaign too late to appear on the ballot in at least six states.

He held only one rally, in which he broke down in tears as he discussed abortion, and funded two television adverts. In the end, he was only listed as a candidate in 12 states.

For his 2024 bid, the rapper suggested he had enlisted alt-right commentator Milo Yiannopoulos as his campaign manager.

A former editor at the right wing publication Breitbart, Mr Yiannopoulos was largely shunned by mainstream conservatives after a video emerged in 2017 of him appearing to condone paedophilia. He said the comments were "gallows humour" and stated his "disgust" at the sexual abuse of minors.

Most recently, Mr Yiannopolous worked as an intern for Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-63754702

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Now one can only hope for a Donald Trump VS Kanye West duel.
Nov 25, 2022 10:35 AM
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Terrible candidate just for his attitude. He succeeded in the entertainment industry by carrying on in spite of people constantly telling him 'no'. But that has gotten to his head, clearly.
Nov 25, 2022 11:16 AM
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No one will vote for him because he panders to white people while shitting on Jews. He couldn’t even get Hotep types to like him.

Though it would be funny to see Kanye try to turn a debate into a rap battle.
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Nov 25, 2022 11:33 AM
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USA politics is really an entertainment show
Nov 25, 2022 7:48 PM
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This time the dinosaurs will be hit by an iceberg, #Kanye2024



Nov 26, 2022 12:25 AM
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Apparently he had dinner with Trump to discuss the 2024 bid, both thought they were going to be the president and Trump went ballistic when West asked him to be the VP. There's no way Trump would be under a black man.

There was also a holocaust denying white power man there too.

The comedy continues.
Nov 26, 2022 5:58 AM
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traed said:
No one will vote for him because he panders to white people while shitting on Jews. He couldn’t even get Hotep types to like him.

Though it would be funny to see Kanye try to turn a debate into a rap battle.


This whole kanye thing is a great opportunity to cause division between the african community and banks.
traed said:
No one will vote for him because he panders to white people while shitting on Jews. He couldn’t even get Hotep types to like him.

Though it would be funny to see Kanye try to turn a debate into a rap battle.


At least Kanye is raising the issue of jewish overrepresentation, they're modern day WASPs.
Nov 26, 2022 9:07 AM
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RuneRem said:
traed said:
No one will vote for him because he panders to white people while shitting on Jews. He couldn’t even get Hotep types to like him.

Though it would be funny to see Kanye try to turn a debate into a rap battle.


This whole kanye thing is a great opportunity to cause division between the african community and banks.
traed said:
No one will vote for him because he panders to white people while shitting on Jews. He couldn’t even get Hotep types to like him.

Though it would be funny to see Kanye try to turn a debate into a rap battle.


At least Kanye is raising the issue of jewish overrepresentation, they're modern day WASPs.

What is this new conspiracy about Black people and banks?

It is almost entertaining to see that you are still stuck in 1930s anti-Semitism. If you are a NEET, it is not due to the "Jewry" or "Jewish lobby," but your own incompetence...
Nov 27, 2022 5:58 AM
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Meusnier said:
RuneRem said:


This whole kanye thing is a great opportunity to cause division between the african community and banks.


At least Kanye is raising the issue of jewish overrepresentation, they're modern day WASPs.

What is this new conspiracy about Black people and banks?

It is almost entertaining to see that you are still stuck in 1930s anti-Semitism. If you are a NEET, it is not due to the "Jewry" or "Jewish lobby," but your own incompetence...


1930s antisemitism? In 1930 US/Anglosphere WASPs were in control, with far less jewish overrepresentation, similar for Germany, Prussian protestants were in control, with a small amount of jewish overrepresentation.

Society is just group X vs Y vs Z. My group should benefit.
Nov 27, 2022 2:10 PM

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RuneRem said:
Meusnier said:

What is this new conspiracy about Black people and banks?

It is almost entertaining to see that you are still stuck in 1930s anti-Semitism. If you are a NEET, it is not due to the "Jewry" or "Jewish lobby," but your own incompetence...


1930s antisemitism? In 1930 US/Anglosphere WASPs were in control, with far less jewish overrepresentation, similar for Germany, Prussian protestants were in control, with a small amount of jewish overrepresentation.

Society is just group X vs Y vs Z. My group should benefit.

Pff, imagine whining about the so-called "overrepresentation" of Jewish people in Europe after 6 millions of them were brutally and methodically assassinated... There are far less Jews in Germany today, your points are not only nonsensical but statistically inaccurate.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/germany-jewish-population-in-1933

The Jewish population in Germany is about a fifth of what it was in 1933. In the UK too, the Jewish population has decreased since that year. You have no idea about what you are talking about, and instead of whining about the too little (sic) WASPs in position of power (source: "I bain't tell 'ee"), how about you stop being a NEET and try to honour your "race"? You benefit from this society for it allows you to keep living thanks to the work of others. You would have died like a dog in Dickens's time, and you should be grateful.

Sorry mate, but no one will ever believe in your conspiracy theory about Jews controlling the world. Get with the times. Even the far-right parties in France stopped with the anti-Semitic rhetoric, you should learn from them.
Nov 27, 2022 3:27 PM

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Meusnier said:
RuneRem said:


1930s antisemitism? In 1930 US/Anglosphere WASPs were in control, with far less jewish overrepresentation, similar for Germany, Prussian protestants were in control, with a small amount of jewish overrepresentation.

Society is just group X vs Y vs Z. My group should benefit.

Pff, imagine whining about the so-called "overrepresentation" of Jewish people in Europe after 6 millions of them were brutally and methodically assassinated... There are far less Jews in Germany today, your points are not only nonsensical but statistically inaccurate.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/germany-jewish-population-in-1933

The Jewish population in Germany is about a fifth of what it was in 1933. In the UK too, the Jewish population has decreased since that year. You have no idea about what you are talking about, and instead of whining about the too little (sic) WASPs in position of power (source: "I bain't tell 'ee"), how about you stop being a NEET and try to honour your "race"? You benefit from this society for it allows you to keep living thanks to the work of others. You would have died like a dog in Dickens's time, and you should be grateful.

Sorry mate, but no one will ever believe in your conspiracy theory about Jews controlling the world. Get with the times. Even the far-right parties in France stopped with the anti-Semitic rhetoric, you should learn from them.


WW2 is irrelevant. If Ashkenazis are a tiny population in western europe, why are they so overrepresented?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-22/who-gets-to-tell-australian-stories-report-media-diversity/101665856

If WASPs aren't allowed to be overrepresented in the country they founded, why should ashkenazi. That's a new aussie article, they have the audacity to keep publishing them, https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/aug/17/australian-television-a-whitewash-as-anglo-celtic-presenters-dominate-newsrooms this article wasn't enough, so if Anglos are gonna be critiqued, so are ashkenazis.

"Journalists with Anglo-Celtic background still 'vastly over-represented' on Australian TV screens"

Imagine the outrage if mainstream media were saying Journalists and owners of news with a jewish background still vastly overrepresented.



Replace "Anglo-Celtic" with jewish, and the outrage wouldn't end.
RuneRemNov 27, 2022 3:42 PM
Nov 27, 2022 9:55 PM

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RuneRem said:
Meusnier said:

Pff, imagine whining about the so-called "overrepresentation" of Jewish people in Europe after 6 millions of them were brutally and methodically assassinated... There are far less Jews in Germany today, your points are not only nonsensical but statistically inaccurate.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/germany-jewish-population-in-1933

The Jewish population in Germany is about a fifth of what it was in 1933. In the UK too, the Jewish population has decreased since that year. You have no idea about what you are talking about, and instead of whining about the too little (sic) WASPs in position of power (source: "I bain't tell 'ee"), how about you stop being a NEET and try to honour your "race"? You benefit from this society for it allows you to keep living thanks to the work of others. You would have died like a dog in Dickens's time, and you should be grateful.

Sorry mate, but no one will ever believe in your conspiracy theory about Jews controlling the world. Get with the times. Even the far-right parties in France stopped with the anti-Semitic rhetoric, you should learn from them.


WW2 is irrelevant. If Ashkenazis are a tiny population in western europe, why are they so overrepresented?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-22/who-gets-to-tell-australian-stories-report-media-diversity/101665856

If WASPs aren't allowed to be overrepresented in the country they founded, why should ashkenazi. That's a new aussie article, they have the audacity to keep publishing them, https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/aug/17/australian-television-a-whitewash-as-anglo-celtic-presenters-dominate-newsrooms this article wasn't enough, so if Anglos are gonna be critiqued, so are ashkenazis.

"Journalists with Anglo-Celtic background still 'vastly over-represented' on Australian TV screens"

Imagine the outrage if mainstream media were saying Journalists and owners of news with a jewish background still vastly overrepresented.



Replace "Anglo-Celtic" with jewish, and the outrage wouldn't end.

You are contradicting yourself. Anglo-Saxons are "over-represented," and you are happy about it, but when other ethnic backgrounds are over-represented (I am still waiting for your peer-reviewed articles supporting that), you whine about it.

Please stop using liberal talking points to try making your discourse look socially acceptable.

To be fair, I believe that the whole "representation" thing is rather stupid, in no way will people be distributed evenly in all jobs with respect to gender for example. This topic is as silly as men who complain that not enough women die on the battlefields...
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I don't want to get into your argument but non whites are massively over represented on the BBC, they want non white to make up 30% of their workforce despite only making up 8% of the population, therefore whites are massively discriminated against with non whites 3.5 times more likely to get a job than whites. All of this is in the BBC pdf available on its site.

They even put out adverts for non whites until someone pointed out that was illegal so now they use an agency that has no whites on its books.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/19/bbc-criticised-for-banning-white-job-applicants-for-trainee-role-7243601/
Nov 28, 2022 3:33 AM

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I don't want to get into your argument but non whites are massively over represented on the BBC, they want non white to make up 30% of their workforce despite only making up 8% of the population, therefore whites are massively discriminated against with non whites 3.5 times more likely to get a job than whites. All of this is in the BBC pdf available on its site.

They even put out adverts for non whites until someone pointed out that was illegal so now they use an agency that has no whites on its books.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/19/bbc-criticised-for-banning-white-job-applicants-for-trainee-role-7243601/

@Meusnier

Overrepresentation is all fine and dandy if it's non-whites and jewish people, but if its white people or anglo-celts, then it things have to be "equal". This whole system is designed to disadvantage western peoples.

On a side note, Anglos aren't overrepresented in Australia, within living memory the country was 98% Anglo celtic, so it's only natural businesses will still reflect that, it is forced immigration that has diluted the country to 58% Anglo. And latest stats actually put Anglos as less than 58%.
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https://twitter.com/AltHistoryHub/status/1597454530072879104
Are we not going to make the joke that the far right rep here is a gay man, a Hispanic and a black rapper.
Mao said:
If you have to shit, shit! If you have to fart, fart!
Nov 29, 2022 7:06 AM
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It does sounds like the start of a joke, a morbidly obese orange man, a Mexican white supremacist and a black anti Semite walk into a room.
But alas it was just 3 obnoxious pieces of shit seeking out similar company.
Nov 29, 2022 9:02 AM

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Neither Kanye West, nor Donald Trump will be able to fight the Deep State, so it matters not if either gets elected. The decision is not made by the people, but by the organizations in power
If you want to see actual change, you would have to reform all those more or less secret societies and organizations from the inside
This includes, but is not limited to
- the Illuminati/Freemasons (Grand Lodge)
- the WEF
- the Templars
- the Opus Dei
- the Skull & Bones
- the Rosicrucians
- the families of Rothschild, Rockefeller
- Blackrock
- Murdoch inc.
- the FED
- everyone on Epstein's private flights
- Pfizer and other big Pharma
- JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs and other investment banks

And many, many more
Nov 29, 2022 9:15 AM

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Noboru said:
Neither Kanye West, nor Donald Trump will be able to fight the Deep State, so it matters not if either gets elected. The decision is not made by the people, but by the organizations in power
If you want to see actual change, you would have to reform all those more or less secret societies and organizations from the inside
This includes, but is not limited to
- the Illuminati/Freemasons (Grand Lodge)
- the WEF
- the Templars
- the Opus Dei
- the Skull & Bones
- the Rosicrucians
- the families of Rothschild, Rockefeller
- Blackrock
- Murdoch inc.
- the FED
- everyone on Epstein's private flights
- Pfizer and other big Pharma
- JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs and other investment banks

And many, many more

The "Deep State" does not exist, and anyone with the right qualifications can work for investment banks, while becoming a Freemason is not especially difficult provided that you have received some "elite" education or can be considered as an "elite" for some reason (wealth, job, etc). Even CEO of small companies can become Freemasons, I know some examples... WEF is nothing. The Templars? You cannot be for real... Your other examples are as nonsensical. Think about it for one second: if the "Deep State" existed, you would not be able to give a list of "culprits" and dozens of companies do not constitute a single entity that goes in the one specific direction.

Have a nice evening.

RuneRem said:
QPR said:
I don't want to get into your argument but non whites are massively over represented on the BBC, they want non white to make up 30% of their workforce despite only making up 8% of the population, therefore whites are massively discriminated against with non whites 3.5 times more likely to get a job than whites. All of this is in the BBC pdf available on its site.

They even put out adverts for non whites until someone pointed out that was illegal so now they use an agency that has no whites on its books.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/19/bbc-criticised-for-banning-white-job-applicants-for-trainee-role-7243601/

@Meusnier

Overrepresentation is all fine and dandy if it's non-whites and jewish people, but if its white people or anglo-celts, then it things have to be "equal". This whole system is designed to disadvantage western peoples.

On a side note, Anglos aren't overrepresented in Australia, within living memory the country was 98% Anglo celtic, so it's only natural businesses will still reflect that, it is forced immigration that has diluted the country to 58% Anglo. And latest stats actually put Anglos as less than 58%.

Who has ever spoken about under-representation of Jewish people? Please make an effort to be consistent; you cannot both complain that Jews are over-represented and that they benefit from some affirmative action.

Your point being?

QPR said:
I don't want to get into your argument but non whites are massively over represented on the BBC, they want non white to make up 30% of their workforce despite only making up 8% of the population, therefore whites are massively discriminated against with non whites 3.5 times more likely to get a job than whites. All of this is in the BBC pdf available on its site.

They even put out adverts for non whites until someone pointed out that was illegal so now they use an agency that has no whites on its books.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/19/bbc-criticised-for-banning-white-job-applicants-for-trainee-role-7243601/

We both know that what Nyu is up to has very little to do with a general critique of affirmative action. Rather that writing the said critique, he pretends that he cares about "representation," and that it implies that there should be more white people in some jobs, while they are still over-represented in Australia (in the example that he used).
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Meusnier said:
The "Deep State" does not exist, and anyone with the right qualifications can work for investment banks, while becoming a Freemason is not especially difficult provided that you have received some "elite" education or can be considered as an "elite" for some reason (wealth, job, etc). Even CEO of small companies can become Freemasons, I know some examples... WEF is nothing. The Templars? You cannot be for real... Your other examples are as nonsensical. Think about it for one second: if the "Deep State" existed, you would not be able to give a list of "culprits" and dozens of companies do not constitute a single entity that goes in the one specific direction.

Have a nice evening.
As much as you want to deny it, the Deep State does exist
There is a difference between being a mere puppet and someone actually being able to influence the course
That's how they gain influence, by incorporating potentially useful people
That "nothing" shows us our future
Yes, the Templars still exist and actually have the knowledge of Atlantis in the Ark of the Covenant which they got from the Crusades

Thanks, you too
Nov 29, 2022 10:29 AM

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Meusnier said:
Noboru said:
Neither Kanye West, nor Donald Trump will be able to fight the Deep State, so it matters not if either gets elected. The decision is not made by the people, but by the organizations in power
If you want to see actual change, you would have to reform all those more or less secret societies and organizations from the inside
This includes, but is not limited to
- the Illuminati/Freemasons (Grand Lodge)
- the WEF
- the Templars
- the Opus Dei
- the Skull & Bones
- the Rosicrucians
- the families of Rothschild, Rockefeller
- Blackrock
- Murdoch inc.
- the FED
- everyone on Epstein's private flights
- Pfizer and other big Pharma
- JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs and other investment banks

And many, many more

The "Deep State" does not exist, and anyone with the right qualifications can work for investment banks, while becoming a Freemason is not especially difficult provided that you have received some "elite" education or can be considered as an "elite" for some reason (wealth, job, etc). Even CEO of small companies can become Freemasons, I know some examples... WEF is nothing. The Templars? You cannot be for real... Your other examples are as nonsensical. Think about it for one second: if the "Deep State" existed, you would not be able to give a list of "culprits" and dozens of companies do not constitute a single entity that goes in the one specific direction.

Have a nice evening.

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@Meusnier

Overrepresentation is all fine and dandy if it's non-whites and jewish people, but if its white people or anglo-celts, then it things have to be "equal". This whole system is designed to disadvantage western peoples.

On a side note, Anglos aren't overrepresented in Australia, within living memory the country was 98% Anglo celtic, so it's only natural businesses will still reflect that, it is forced immigration that has diluted the country to 58% Anglo. And latest stats actually put Anglos as less than 58%.

Who has ever spoken about under-representation of Jewish people? Please make an effort to be consistent; you cannot both complain that Jews are over-represented and that they benefit from some affirmative action.

Your point being?

QPR said:
I don't want to get into your argument but non whites are massively over represented on the BBC, they want non white to make up 30% of their workforce despite only making up 8% of the population, therefore whites are massively discriminated against with non whites 3.5 times more likely to get a job than whites. All of this is in the BBC pdf available on its site.

They even put out adverts for non whites until someone pointed out that was illegal so now they use an agency that has no whites on its books.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/19/bbc-criticised-for-banning-white-job-applicants-for-trainee-role-7243601/

We both know that what Nyu is up to has very little to do with a general critique of affirmative action. Rather that writing the said critique, he pretends that he cares about "representation," and that it implies that there should be more white people in some jobs, while they are still over-represented in Australia (in the example that he used).


https://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/02/nyregion/princeton-puzzle-where-have-jewish-students-gone.html

There you go.






THE NEW YORK TIMES everyone. Talking about how Jews usually 25%-33% of Ivy Leagues are "underrepresnted" at Princeton. Jews are 2% of the population.
And the NYT have the audacity to assert the standard for Jewish representation should be a quater of all students, and if its less, well the Main stream media raises the issue.

Compare that to the Guardian discussing Anglo representation.


One groups overrepresentation is empowered, the other's is an issue for "diversity".
@Noboru
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Meusnier said:

We both know that what Nyu is up to has very little to do with a general critique of affirmative action. Rather that writing the said critique, he pretends that he cares about "representation," and that it implies that there should be more white people in some jobs, while they are still over-represented in Australia (in the example that he used).


True but what I am pointing out there is institutionalised racism and sexism and it's al directed against straight white men. The police turned down a man for a job who won in court. The reason was he didn't get any woke points being a straight white male.

I know there is racism and under-representation for other but it's not because of barriers. It's because of a few arsehole individuals.

If we want strict quotas we have to get rid of 90% of black footballers and and 23 whites, 1 Asian and 1 black white for each squad which matches the UK ratio. How do you think that would go down?
You either apply quotas to everything or nothing.
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QPR said:
Meusnier said:

We both know that what Nyu is up to has very little to do with a general critique of affirmative action. Rather that writing the said critique, he pretends that he cares about "representation," and that it implies that there should be more white people in some jobs, while they are still over-represented in Australia (in the example that he used).


True but what I am pointing out there is institutionalised racism and sexism and it's al directed against straight white men. The police turned down a man for a job who won in court. The reason was he didn't get any woke points being a straight white male.

I know there is racism and under-representation for other but it's not because of barriers. It's because of a few arsehole individuals.

If we want strict quotas we have to get rid of 90% of black footballers and and 23 whites, 1 Asian and 1 black white for each squad which matches the UK ratio. How do you think that would go down?
You either apply quotas to everything or nothing.


Actually if we wanted quotas, the quotas would have to change every year, as Brits would lose 1% representation.
A quota in 2022 means 74% ethnic British representation.


A quota in 1991 means 94% British representation.
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Meusnier said:
The "Deep State" does not exist, and anyone with the right qualifications can work for investment banks, while becoming a Freemason is not especially difficult provided that you have received some "elite" education or can be considered as an "elite" for some reason (wealth, job, etc). Even CEO of small companies can become Freemasons, I know some examples... WEF is nothing. The Templars? You cannot be for real... Your other examples are as nonsensical. Think about it for one second: if the "Deep State" existed, you would not be able to give a list of "culprits" and dozens of companies do not constitute a single entity that goes in the one specific direction.

Have a nice evening.
As much as you want to deny it, the Deep State does exist
There is a difference between being a mere puppet and someone actually being able to influence the course
That's how they gain influence, by incorporating potentially useful people
That "nothing" shows us our future
Yes, the Templars still exist and actually have the knowledge of Atlantis in the Ark of the Covenant which they got from the Crusades

Thanks, you too

Your are dangerously deluded. What an odd mixture between pagan legends and vague knowledge about Christianity...

Then where is the Ark of the Covenant, and who has ever used its power?

You cannot prove that those groups work together towards some evil goal...
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Meusnier said:

The "Deep State" does not exist, and anyone with the right qualifications can work for investment banks, while becoming a Freemason is not especially difficult provided that you have received some "elite" education or can be considered as an "elite" for some reason (wealth, job, etc). Even CEO of small companies can become Freemasons, I know some examples... WEF is nothing. The Templars? You cannot be for real... Your other examples are as nonsensical. Think about it for one second: if the "Deep State" existed, you would not be able to give a list of "culprits" and dozens of companies do not constitute a single entity that goes in the one specific direction.

Have a nice evening.


Who has ever spoken about under-representation of Jewish people? Please make an effort to be consistent; you cannot both complain that Jews are over-represented and that they benefit from some affirmative action.

Your point being?


We both know that what Nyu is up to has very little to do with a general critique of affirmative action. Rather that writing the said critique, he pretends that he cares about "representation," and that it implies that there should be more white people in some jobs, while they are still over-represented in Australia (in the example that he used).


https://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/02/nyregion/princeton-puzzle-where-have-jewish-students-gone.html

There you go.






THE NEW YORK TIMES everyone. Talking about how Jews usually 25%-33% of Ivy Leagues are "underrepresnted" at Princeton. Jews are 2% of the population.
And the NYT have the audacity to assert the standard for Jewish representation should be a quater of all students, and if its less, well the Main stream media raises the issue.

Compare that to the Guardian discussing Anglo representation.


One groups overrepresentation is empowered, the other's is an issue for "diversity".
@Noboru

Nobody is advocating affirmative action for Jews. Fred A. Hargadon, Princeton's dean of admissions, says his office does not consider religion at all and does not view the religious composition of other colleges as a useful measure.

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/02/nyregion/princeton-puzzle-where-have-jewish-students-gone.html

Quote from your article... Jews have always been over-represented in mathematics and other sciences, so the concern raised in the article is legitimate (because what matters in the end is to attract as many gifted people as possible), especially when one knows the troubled history of America with anti-Semitism. George David Birkhoff is one famous example who opposed to the recruitment of many Jewish mathematicians in Harvard.

https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Birkhoff/

You can keep quoting this opinion piece from the Guardian, bit it does not give any weight to your initial point that white people allegedly suffer from "under-representation." You should stop painting yourself as a defender of "representation" if you only support it when it benefits you. That is extremely hypocrite.

QPR said:
Meusnier said:

We both know that what Nyu is up to has very little to do with a general critique of affirmative action. Rather that writing the said critique, he pretends that he cares about "representation," and that it implies that there should be more white people in some jobs, while they are still over-represented in Australia (in the example that he used).


True but what I am pointing out there is institutionalised racism and sexism and it's al directed against straight white men. The police turned down a man for a job who won in court. The reason was he didn't get any woke points being a straight white male.

I know there is racism and under-representation for other but it's not because of barriers. It's because of a few arsehole individuals.

If we want strict quotas we have to get rid of 90% of black footballers and and 23 whites, 1 Asian and 1 black white for each squad which matches the UK ratio. How do you think that would go down?
You either apply quotas to everything or nothing.

It is not institutionalised, you are legally protected against discrimination, as your example shows.

On the other hand, racism cannot be reduced to an issue about a few "bad apples" to paraphrase you politely, and one could deem it institutionalised.

I am not defending quotas (which are especially stupid in niche jobs; do you want to restrict the number of Protestant mathematicians in France?—that are another over-represented group if my memory serves right; it was definitely over-represented in Bourbaki's group), but some awareness should be raised about systemic issues of racism in many organisations.
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No, they just find ways around like the example of the BBC only wanting black people, they were told it was illegal so just use an agency that only has black people.
They went from officially not wanting white people to unofficially not wanting white people.

The BBC is still racist and sexist too, I read an example of a male ex pilot who did media stuff but the BBC would only interview a woman, they couldn't find one so cancelled it.
There's a lot more which is why I stopped paying my licence fee over a decade ago.
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Then where is the Ark of the Covenant, and who has ever used its power?

You cannot prove that those groups work together towards some evil goal...
The Ark of the Covenant is supposedly kept in custody by the Templars
Supposedly, the ones who built the domes

I didn't say that. My only point was mentioning that those groups have influence and not that they all work together. Every group has its own interests
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RuneRem said:


https://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/02/nyregion/princeton-puzzle-where-have-jewish-students-gone.html

There you go.






THE NEW YORK TIMES everyone. Talking about how Jews usually 25%-33% of Ivy Leagues are "underrepresnted" at Princeton. Jews are 2% of the population.
And the NYT have the audacity to assert the standard for Jewish representation should be a quater of all students, and if its less, well the Main stream media raises the issue.

Compare that to the Guardian discussing Anglo representation.


One groups overrepresentation is empowered, the other's is an issue for "diversity".
@Noboru

Nobody is advocating affirmative action for Jews. Fred A. Hargadon, Princeton's dean of admissions, says his office does not consider religion at all and does not view the religious composition of other colleges as a useful measure.

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/02/nyregion/princeton-puzzle-where-have-jewish-students-gone.html

Quote from your article... Jews have always been over-represented in mathematics and other sciences, so the concern raised in the article is legitimate (because what matters in the end is to attract as many gifted people as possible), especially when one knows the troubled history of America with anti-Semitism. George David Birkhoff is one famous example who opposed to the recruitment of many Jewish mathematicians in Harvard.

https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Birkhoff/

You can keep quoting this opinion piece from the Guardian, bit it does not give any weight to your initial point that white people allegedly suffer from "under-representation." You should stop painting yourself as a defender of "representation" if you only support it when it benefits you. That is extremely hypocrite.

QPR said:


True but what I am pointing out there is institutionalised racism and sexism and it's al directed against straight white men. The police turned down a man for a job who won in court. The reason was he didn't get any woke points being a straight white male.

I know there is racism and under-representation for other but it's not because of barriers. It's because of a few arsehole individuals.

If we want strict quotas we have to get rid of 90% of black footballers and and 23 whites, 1 Asian and 1 black white for each squad which matches the UK ratio. How do you think that would go down?
You either apply quotas to everything or nothing.

It is not institutionalised, you are legally protected against discrimination, as your example shows.

On the other hand, racism cannot be reduced to an issue about a few "bad apples" to paraphrase you politely, and one could deem it institutionalised.

I am not defending quotas (which are especially stupid in niche jobs; do you want to restrict the number of Protestant mathematicians in France?—that are another over-represented group if my memory serves right; it was definitely over-represented in Bourbaki's group), but some awareness should be raised about systemic issues of racism in many organisations.


Reread the comment. You are missing the argument made.
Overrepresentation of Anglos = BAD.
Overrepresentation of Jews = Good and it should be higher.

On a side note, 70% of US Jews support affirmative action as a policy, gallup polls etc show this. So it would be fair by their own views, that afffirmative action should apply to Jewish people.
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@Verthandi11 I watched that segment. Found it humorous and somewhat informative.

Kanye can run, will get some votes but ultimately lose. I never liked that someone's celebrity popularity somehow extends to their ability to get things done right.

Not even sure how to comment on the "race" stuff. Europeans talking about American racial identities in relation to representation is illuminating however I feel it misses some factors.
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@Verthandi11 I watched that segment. Found it humorous and somewhat informative.

Kanye can run, will get some votes but ultimately lose. I never liked that someone's celebrity popularity somehow extends to their ability to get things done right.

Not even sure how to comment on the "race" stuff. Europeans talking about American racial identities in relation to representation is illuminating however I feel it misses some factors.


Representation is a Europe thing these days because of immigrants. So unfortunately it is no longer an American race matter.
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Ye went mad. That interview he gave Alex Jones today was insane. Dude went full mask off on the nazism behind that weird mask he was wearing.



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Kanye West posted the Raelian Movement Cult’s Swastika + Star of David logo on Twitter and then his posts got taken down for a rules violation.

The Raelian Movement believes Ayy Lmao's created life on Earth.
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Kanye West posted the Raelian Movement Cult’s Swastika + Star of David logo on Twitter and then his posts got taken down for a rules violation.

The Raelian Movement believes Ayy Lmao's created life on Earth.

He was even banned from Twitter for that:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63826675
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Saying that he likes Hitler and posting swastikas.

Looks like he's definitely in the running to be the next leader of the MAGAtards.

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@Verthandi11 I watched that segment. Found it humorous and somewhat informative.

Kanye can run, will get some votes but ultimately lose. I never liked that someone's celebrity popularity somehow extends to their ability to get things done right.

Not even sure how to comment on the "race" stuff. Europeans talking about American racial identities in relation to representation is illuminating however I feel it misses some factors.
the issue with the race stuff seems to be that nobody really wants to understand or reconcile. if i can blame jewish ppl (or some other group) for my problems n get peace of mind bc of that, why wud i need to explore further?
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No, it was a list of people they love. All 3 are total narcissists with a long list of mental problems, all 3 are fascists and their true colours are coming out.
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Ye went mad. That interview he gave Alex Jones today was insane. Dude went full mask off on the nazism behind that weird mask he was wearing.

Him saying he liked Jews and Nazis was hilarious. The mask is just a fashion thing, he’s worn it before often when he is out places since well good deterrent for paparazi anyway

@Noboru
There is no deep state and that is coming from someone who personally has info from people that worked for the gov. It’s just made up.
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There is no deep state and that is coming from someone who personally has info from people that worked for the gov. It’s just made up.
Denying is part of a strategy to distract from the truth. That aside, it's more likely that the people you're referring to never had any influential enough position.
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Then where is the Ark of the Covenant, and who has ever used its power?

You cannot prove that those groups work together towards some evil goal...
The Ark of the Covenant is supposedly kept in custody by the Templars
Supposedly, the ones who built the domes

I didn't say that. My only point was mentioning that those groups have influence and not that they all work together. Every group has its own interests

"Supposedly"... What are the domes? What are your evidence? Why do you trust mind-numbing internet blogs?

They have influence indeed, but they are not conspiring against you and do not form an global entity that moves in the same direction and could be called "The Deep State." Think one second: the list that you shared is meaningless.

Noboru said:
traed said:
There is no deep state and that is coming from someone who personally has info from people that worked for the gov. It’s just made up.
Denying is part of a strategy to distract from the truth. That aside, it's more likely that the people you're referring to never had any influential enough position.

Strategy of whom? Do you think that @traed is a secret agent of the "Deep State"? The real State must rejoice at the sight of people like you who lose of sight the real questions and only care about fantasies that will never question their important decisions.
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You guys know right that Government gains power via people thinking it is powerful so the whole Deep State thing is Government disinfo so you think the Government is powerful which gives them power.
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You guys know right that Government gains power via people thinking it is powerful so the whole Deep State thing is Government disinfo so you think the Government is powerful which gives them power.

Exactly! Well said vasipi4946.

While idiots ramble about satanic groups of pizza connoisseurs who use kids as firewood in the Tongass forest, government officials keep enjoying their lavish lifestyle.
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Noboru said:
traed said:
There is no deep state and that is coming from someone who personally has info from people that worked for the gov. It’s just made up.
Denying is part of a strategy to distract from the truth. That aside, it's more likely that the people you're referring to never had any influential enough position.

You fail to see the irony here? You’re being lied to that there is a “deep state” in order to distract from the truth of the actual problems in the US government agencies and election system which doesn’t quite align with how the term deep state is historically used. The shady stuff is pretty in the open not in the shadows
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Dec 3, 2022 1:36 AM

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traed said:
Noboru said:
Denying is part of a strategy to distract from the truth. That aside, it's more likely that the people you're referring to never had any influential enough position.

You fail to see the irony here? You’re being lied to that there is a “deep state” in order to distract from the truth of the actual problems in the US government agencies and election system which doesn’t quite align with how the term deep state is historically used. The shady stuff is pretty in the open not in the shadows

Interestingly, the State does not have to do anything; people start believing in all kinds of nonsense, and it benefits from it. This is why the expression "you're being lied" must be precised for one could believe that some secret governmental agencies try to make people believe in the existence of the so-called "Deep State"—that no one can define precisely.
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Meusnier said:
traed said:

You fail to see the irony here? You’re being lied to that there is a “deep state” in order to distract from the truth of the actual problems in the US government agencies and election system which doesn’t quite align with how the term deep state is historically used. The shady stuff is pretty in the open not in the shadows

Interestingly, the State does not have to do anything; people start believing in all kinds of nonsense, and it benefits from it. This is why the expression "you're being lied" must be precised for one could believe that some secret governmental agencies try to make people believe in the existence of the so-called "Deep State"—that no one can define precisely.

I didn’t mean the state collectively but politicians. Trump was specifically the one that popularized this conspiracy theory and other Republican politicians copied him.
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He would be a good President just like a vegetable. In that in a world of underlying complexity that has been made hypernormalized and seemingly made simple and easily digestible for normies he would be so out of his depth and be nothing than a shut posting figure head at best.

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traed said:
You fail to see the irony here? You’re being lied to that there is a “deep state” in order to distract from the truth of the actual problems in the US government agencies and election system which doesn’t quite align with how the term deep state is historically used. The shady stuff is pretty in the open not in the shadows
There are both actual issues on the surface and in the underground with how things are handled. The problems of the one do not exclude the problems of the other. Those are two separate things. Shady stuff happens both in secret and in the open

Meusnier said:
"Supposedly"... What are the domes? What are your evidence? Why do you trust mind-numbing internet blogs?
Major cathedrals in Europe, for example. I don't have evidence. I take it with a grain of salt - I just find it possible

The list I've shared is probably just the tip of the iceberg. As I've said before, they don't necessarily have to have the same goals. I'm too irrelevant
Unless he is a very good actor, I find it rather unlikely that he would be part of any organization I've listed, same with you, even though your reaction to the Templars seems to have been a bit intriguing

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