| We are saved from loud noises for this arc . |
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| ive read the manga and they appear in the arc after swordsmith, i quite like that they aren't in swordsmith because in this arc they focus a decent amount on muichiro and tanjiro and nezuko and the sun breathing lore, if they had zenitsu and insokue there during all this there would be just too many characters in focus and would just be annoying |
I loved this arc in the manga, I don’t think I noticed that they weren’t even in the arc |
| Inosuke is best character and Zenitsu is now tolerable in short doses. |
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| Nope. I love them both. But the good thing is that we get to see new Hashiras in action. |
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.  |
| Better without Zenitsu, but i will miss Inosuke |
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| Damn Zenitsu was docile for more than half of Yukaku hen and he's still catching strays from the fanbase. I don't dislike either Zenitsu or Inosuke but their presence or lack thereof is probably not going to affect my enjoyment of the swordsmith village arc. |
  Arteta's Tricky Reds!   |
| Absolutely yes, even good boy Tanjiro with his cardboard personality is 100 times more bearable than those two. |
| Nah it wouldn't, Zenitsu's my favorite character so it's a bit to see that he won't be in this season much, but later on though we'll be eating good |
| These are just two standart Shonen-Characters. It fits the demographic. They are no different from Sanji constantly beeing horny Naruto beeing dumb Midorya beeing a goody two shoes Goku saving the day in the end etc. etc. etc. Tropes. They work for a specific audience, you know. We just grew up. Stuff that was hilarious, back when Bleach was airing isn't as effective to us now that we've seen a lot more Shows like that. It's the classic, loud comic relief character and the angry Strongman. It's Shonen^^ Enough already. It's how the Genre always has been, guys. Maybe you've just grown out of it. |
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xZabuzax said: Merve2Love said: These are just two standart Shonen-Characters. It fits the demographic. They are no different from Sanji constantly beeing horny Naruto beeing dumb Midorya beeing a goody two shoes Goku saving the day in the end etc. etc. etc. Tropes. They work for a specific audience, you know. We just grew up. Stuff that was hilarious, back when Bleach was airing isn't as effective to us now that we've seen a lot more Shows like that. It's the classic, loud comic relief character and the angry Strongman. It's Shonen^^ Enough already. It's how the Genre always has been, guys. Maybe you've just grown out of it. Not like Zenitsu, no, the characters you mentioned aren't even on that same level of annoying. I've watched plenty of shounen animes before and Zenitsu is probably the most retarded, loud, obnoxious character I've ever encountered. Zenitsu is awesome when he's sleeping but once he's awake, he's unbearable to watch, that mofo single-handedly ruined S1 for me. Watching an anime is one thing, watching an anime while constantly being ear-raped without condoms is another, that friction... man. Yes, you said it. For you, it ruined it. For a 12y old boy he's probably pretty funny to watch. That is what Im saying, you know :) It's just perspective and taste. But also the demographic, as I said. And the demographic for this Show is young boys. Young boys who probably aren't as annoyed with loud, obnoxious Funny-Guys as you are. That was my point^^ |
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| The only thing that would make it better is getting to watch it immediately. |
xZabuzax said: Yes....that is....again.....my point.he just screams like an idiot for the sake of pleasing 12-year-old kids. If you understood it the first time around, why are you repeating it back to me? Yes. He's pleasing 12 year old kids... and if he DOES - that is a good thing, because that's the Show's target audience. They don't really need a punchline.... They need a whole lot of action and some screamy comic relief... *sigh* Nevermind. Yes, yes you're right. A little less screaming and we all win. Would be good. Wonder why they don't change this Shonen-Trope that is just working for them, for decades now. Glad he isn't as relevant this season, I guess. Here you go. |
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Yup. It's the Anime's fault grown ups do expect a grown up piece of medium, with some grounded characters from the Creator, who made said Anime for children. I think you're right^^ Rejoice! |
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| YES YES!Inosuke is quite tolerable, but the absence of Zenitsu will be a cause for celebration for me.Too bad he's coming back.I can't stand his screaming, crying and pathetic behavior |
Resus-2 said: In short, I signed to watch a dark, mature shounen anime and that's exactly what I got in the first 10 episodes or so and I was happy and satisfied with it but as soon as Zenitsu appeared, this anime took a 180 turn and went from being a dark, mature shounen anime to being a childish anime and I'm not kidding here, Zenitsu turned this anime into a 12-year-old kids anime with his BS, I didn't sign for this shit, the Tonal Whiplash was real here, Zenitsu literally turned Demon Slayer into a 12-year-old kids anime and I hated it and and yep, I was also close in dropping this anime because of him. Yeah. That's where you're wrong, I think. Demon Slayer was never intendet to be dark and mature.^^ It was MADE for 12-year old Kids, in fact. Sure there is blood, sure there is hardship and sad moments. It's still a Shonen, tho. It's meant to be "cool" and action packed and "hard" - you're confusing these things with "maturity". In short, Demon slayer is NOT and will NEVER BE aimed at you - who thinks this was made for an adult audience, expecting some dark Story, with well reasoned Characters. It's just not, my dude^^ EDIT: By the way, I don't think there's anything wrong with hating Zenitsu. He's annoying to you? Alright. Seeing this as a "flaw" of the Show, tho? No...cause: It is made for kids. And this Trope is working with that audience. |
Merve2LoveApr 5, 2023 8:44 AM
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xZabuzax said: So now you changed the argument into "Shouldn't be watched without supervision?" Merve2Love said: Yeah. That's where you're wrong, I think. Demon Slayer was never intendet to be dark and mature.^^ It was MADE for 12-year old Kids, in fact. Sure there is blood, sure there is hardship and sad moments. It's still a Shonen, tho. It's meant to be "cool" and action packed and "hard" - you're confusing these things with "maturity". In short, Demon slayer is NOT and will NEVER BE aimed at you - who thinks this was made for an adult audience, expecting some dark Story, with well reasoned Characters. It's just not, my dude^^ EDIT: By the way, I don't think there's anything wrong with hating Zenitsu. He's annoying to you? Alright. Seeing this as a "flaw" of the Show, tho? No...cause: It is made for kids. And this Trope is working with that audience. I don't think he's wrong about it, R - 17+ animes mean that children shouldn't be watching that anime without supervision from an adult. I don't know where I read this but as far as I remember, Zenitsu was created because the mangaka was afraid Demon Slayer was going to get too dark for the audience so he needed some comic relief characters and thus, Zenitsu was created. There is nothing wrong with having comic relief characters in a manga or anime, I've read the manga and Zenitsu didn't bother me that much in the manga since he wasn't that bad there, the problem is the anime so I blame the director here, the director was the one with the idea in making Zenitsu a hell lot more annoying. It doesn't matter. By your logic Call of Duty is the most mature and dark thing, ever. It does not matter what the actual rating is. What you've read about Zenitsu is exactly the reason why this is a Shonen - consumed by Kids. The Mangaka wanted to reach a certain audience and he knew how to do it - thus Zenitsu was born .... In other words: EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU FOR A WEEK NOW ....xD Im really, really sorry. You're not watching some mature, thought provoking Story when tuning into Demon Slayer, after work. It's not aimed at you and just a bit of fun entertainment. And here is the important part: Even if you disagree - it was STILL made for Teenagers, not for adults - as backed up by Stories like Zenitsus creation, the Genre, the source material beeing published in Shonen-Jump and it's prequels. I get it. Demon Slayer is consumed by adults aswell....but that wasn't the point. And for that Reason -> Zenitsu is not a flaw. The director did nothing wrong and the voiceactor is doing what he's supposed to do. You're comparing non-audio Manga Panels with loud screaming scenes from the Show. Yes....that's gotta be a bit different. |
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xZabuzax said: Merve2Love said: So now you changed the argument into "Shouldn't be watched without supervision?" It doesn't matter. By your logic Call of Duty is the most mature and dark thing, ever. It does not matter what the actual rating is. What you've read about Zenitsu is exactly the reason why this is a Shonen - consumed by Kids. The Mangaka wanted to reach a certain audience and he knew how to do it - thus Zenitsu was born .... In other words: EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU FOR A WEEK NOW ....xD Im really, really sorry. You're not watching some mature, thought provoking Story when tuning into Demon Slayer, after work. It's not aimed at you and just a bit of fun entertainment. And here is the important part: Even if you disagree - it was STILL made for Teenagers, not for adults - as backed up by Stories like Zenitsus creation, the Genre, the source material beeing published in Shonen-Jump and it's prequels. I get it. Demon Slayer is consumed by adults aswell....but that wasn't the point. And for that Reason -> Zenitsu is not a flaw. The director did nothing wrong and the voiceactor is doing what he's supposed to do. You're comparing non-audio Manga Panels with loud screaming scenes from the Show. Yes....that's gotta be a bit different. Call of Duty shouldn't be played by children either since it's rated 18+, and yes, I'm well aware that children play it too. The mangaka created Zenitsu because he was afraid Demon Slayer was going to get too dark and as I said, there is nothing wrong in having comic relief characters in a manga or anime, even Berserk which is one of the most mature mangas out there have comic relief characters like Puck. The problem is not the comic relief characters, the problem is how annoying you make them out to be and Zenitsu turned out to be the most annoying, retarded, obnoxious character I've ever watched in an anime, at least in S1, thank god Zenitsu wasn't that annoying in the movie, or S2 since he was sleeping for the most part. I never said that Zenitsu is a flaw, he wasn't that annoying in the manga, the problem is the anime, I said he is annoying as hell and ruined S1 for me. And yes, Demon Slayer was made for a more mature audience, in other words, Teenagers, hence it's rated R - 17+ and children shouldn't even be watching it without supervision from an adult. Im giving up^^ My logic is just beaten by you beeing convinced Demon Slayer is not a Shonen xD Im fine with that. It's alright. |
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xZabuzax said: Merve2Love said: Im giving up^^ My logic is just beaten by you beeing convinced Demon Slayer is not a Shonen xD Im fine with that. It's alright. I never said Demon Slayer is not shounen, of course, it is. Death Note is a shounen anime too and it's one of my favorites but if I see Death Note with an annoying, retarded, obnoxious character like Zenitsu in it then you can bet your ass I would be complaining about it too. As I said before, comic relief characters aren't the problem, it's how annoying you make them out to be. What works in a manga won't necessarily work in an anime, they are both different mediums after all. Anyway, nice chatting with you too. No....you don't understand. If it IS in fact a Shonen (and it is)....then....it's, by definition, made for young Boys (aka made for a younger audience...). Cause Shonen is a term that, very clearly, defines what can and cannot be shown and how characters and story-arcs play out, in Anime. That's just a fact. Zenitsu's Character is a part of that... But as I said: I give up. Logic and facts don't really work on you ... I learned that much, this week. It's almost funny how you disagree with me, constantly, while admitting to every point Im making ... |
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xZabuzax said: As it was stated in this debate already, not all shounen animes are created equal, some of them are more mature than others. There are some shounen animes like Dragon Ball that are aimed toward 13+ year old audiences and there are other shounen animes like Demon Slayer and Death Note that are aimed towards 17+ year old audiences and as I said, if I see a retarded character like Zenitsu in an anime like Death Note (which is a more mature anime than most shounen out there) then you can bet your ass I would be complaining about it too. Anyway, didn't you say you were giving up? They are made equal. Cause they aim at the same agegroups, regardless of how bloody and/or how much nudity is making them get rated differently. That is just law - that has nothing to do with the actual audience that is consuming the product, in the end. That's just rules, laid out by whatever country you live in. Take Call of Duty, again. There are some characters appearing in Dragonball that are as violent as Characters in Demon Slayer. So what? A boy who's watching Dragonball wouldn't go watch Demon Slayer and come out feeling intimidated, cause it's too dark. No. It's made with the same formula. Shonen. Watching Deathnote wouldn't go over your head, cause you're 13. You could still relate to the setting, starting with Yagami sitting at school. Just goes to Show that these ratings aren't exactly representative of anything, but laying out some ground rules. They all aim at the same thing - appealing to Teenagers. Teenagers who want to be as cool as Goku or who want to have a girlfriend like Misa. Teenagers who think it's badass seeing an arm getting chopped off by some Demon. It doesn't matter. It's the same thing....it's aimed at the same people! |
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