| I wouldn't bother me if it was a simple comedy anime like konosuba or whatever where there are no consequences, but this is clearly a serious anime, with some comedy in it, and when that girl fucking KIDNAPS tadano, absolutely nothing happens ? she just says "sorry" the next day, tadano wasn't even going to do anything ? |
ZehennagelAug 19, 2022 6:15 AM
| You lost me at konosuba being a comedy. |
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Swagernator said: if you don't like it, it doesn't mean it's not a comedy, sorry to burst your bubble but those are 2 different things, though if you are under 6 you might not make the difference.You lost me at konosuba being a comedy. |
| She did face some consequences, namely almost missing the chance to become Komi’s friend which matters more to her than her own life |
| If you are from South East Asia, then I request you, when you will start an anime, you search if it is available on Muse Asia and Ani-one Asia, before looking through piracy websites |
| even in konosuba i think it would still have some consequences |
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Swagernator said: You lost me at konosuba being a comedy. so now we toxic for absolutely no reason? |
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| tadano knows that if he do pull up something on yamai he will get some type of serial killer torcher shit. so he may kept quiet about it |
borderliner said: Zehennagel said: I wouldn't bother me if it was a simple comedy anime like konosuba or whatever where there are no consequences, but this is clearly a serious anime, with some comedy in it, and when that girl fucking KIDAPS tadano, absolutely nothing happens ? she just says "sorry" the next day, tadano wasn't even going to do anything ? Do us all a favour and "Get a life" you are on mal and you watch anime and you still have the audacity to tell someone to get a life lmao |
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| While it's not a goofy anime, there's an absence of police and headmasters so as long as Tadano doesn't think it's a problem then the narrative doesn't either. Also I think that it getting resolved with an apology despite its seriousness is part of what makes Tadano a part of the student body because only eccentric students go to the school |
| It's a fucking episodic comedy why would there be any fucking drama. It's fiction, not real life the laws of logic aren't the same. |
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| Wth? This is actually a serious anime? |
| Tadano did not pressed any charges. And yes, it is a simple comedy show. I find it even more baffling that anyone in the cast even tolerates Yamai's very presence despite her best efforts to be unlikable. |
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| Wait? Komi-san is a serious anime? Since when? |
| Pretty sure Komi-san isnt a serious anime but if you say so |
| Yeah that's why yamai is garbage |
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| This is fiction... |
Worsties said: this is a discussion website...This is fiction... |
| ngl u have me at that. |
Do you seriously want to have a discussion about this!? Well why would brushing an incident among friends off with a sorry bother you? |
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| Well first, she would face those consequences only if Tadano, the victim, pressed charges against her. Second, this is just as much of a comedy as Konosuba, but perhaps not as much sexual assault and maybe more gag characters. |
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borderliner said: haha yea I too usualy kidnap my friends and keep them trapped in my closet for hours, among other crimes, when I'm jalous, just little incidents haha ! Zehennagel said: this is a discussion website... Do you seriously want to have a discussion about this!? Well why would brushing an incident among friends off with a sorry bother you? no seriously, what I'm saying is that this is not a completely comedic anime, its got serious themes etc, and this is clearly a crime but its brushed off as nothing, for imersion I thought this is a problem, it makes more sense to have something completely comedic and nothing serious, no consequences, or something where there are consequences and a crime has consequences. but in my opinion to have both like this, especially a crime, doesn't make much sense imo. |
ZehennagelAug 19, 2022 11:05 AM
Leedv188 said: bro its a discussion website stfuZehennagel said: I wouldn't bother me if it was a simple comedy anime like konosuba or whatever where there are no consequences, but this is clearly a serious anime, with some comedy in it, and when that girl fucking KIDNAPS tadano, absolutely nothing happens ? she just says "sorry" the next day, tadano wasn't even going to do anything ? bro its an anime stfu |
Potatoboy11 said: well if you wanna have the last word this bad, I'll let you have it. I don't consider this show as totaly "comedic" like a konosuba or other, there is still some character development and all, and it adresses the themes seriously. we just disagree on that. We don't have to call each other stupid, or being agressive, but I guess this is internet so my bad, should have known betterZehennagel said: bro I did look at the character why the fuck do you gotta be so fucking agressive bro ? what the hell are you talking about ? how is that dumb shit, did you watch the same anime I did? you can disagree without having to be so aggressive, that's called discussion If aggressive means calling out the idiot; then yes, I am aggressive. Let's take a look back at we have at hand: -comedy show -non serious show (idk what makes konosuba less serious than this) -gag characters -said gag characters sticking to their characteristics. And then there's you trying to target the show for not being serious, and trying to wipe it off with a "nO tHis A sERiOus SHoW". And again, if being aggressive means being absolutely right; then yes, I am being aggressive. |
RioFS said: I disagree on that, it is comedic allright but its got serious themes, and adresses them seriously, so it's not a "100% comedy" show where nothing matters, there is still some character development and all.Well first, she would face those consequences only if Tadano, the victim, pressed charges against her. Second, this is just as much of a comedy as Konosuba, but perhaps not as much sexual assault and maybe more gag characters. |
Zehennagel said: RioFS said: I disagree on that, it is comedic allright but its got serious themes, and adresses them seriously, so it's not a "100% comedy" show where nothing matters, there is still some character development and all.Well first, she would face those consequences only if Tadano, the victim, pressed charges against her. Second, this is just as much of a comedy as Konosuba, but perhaps not as much sexual assault and maybe more gag characters. Why can't comedy anime have character development? Look at Kaguya-Sama. |
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Zehennagel said: borderliner said: haha yea I too usualy kidnap my friends and keep them trapped in my closet for hours, among other crimes, when I'm jalous, just little incidents haha ! Do you seriously want to have a discussion about this!? Well why would brushing an incident among friends off with a sorry bother you? So, your discussion point is that comedy shows need to have the characters acting within societal norms otherwise you get bothered by it? Is that a reasonable summary of what you actually want to talk about? |
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borderliner said: I edited my post after you answer so here's what I wrote : no seriously, what I'm saying is that this is not a completely comedic anime, its got serious themes etc, and this is clearly a crime but its brushed off as nothing, for imersion I thought this is a problem, it makes more sense to have something completely comedic and nothing serious, no consequences, or something where there are consequences and a crime has consequences. but in my opinion to have both like this, especially a crime, doesn't make much sense imo.Zehennagel said: haha yea I too usualy kidnap my friends and keep them trapped in my closet for hours, among other crimes, when I'm jalous, just little incidents haha ! So, your discussion point is that comedy shows need to have the characters acting within societal norms otherwise you get bothered by it? Is that a reasonable summary of what you actually want to talk about? |
Zehennagel said: Potatoboy11 said: well if you wanna have the last word this bad, I'll let you have it. I don't consider this show as totaly "comedic" like a konosuba or other, there is still some character development and all, and it adresses the themes seriously. we just disagree on that. We don't have to call each other stupid, or being agressive, but I guess this is internet so my bad, should have known betterIf aggressive means calling out the idiot; then yes, I am aggressive. Let's take a look back at we have at hand: -comedy show -non serious show (idk what makes konosuba less serious than this) -gag characters -said gag characters sticking to their characteristics. And then there's you trying to target the show for not being serious, and trying to wipe it off with a "nO tHis A sERiOus SHoW". And again, if being aggressive means being absolutely right; then yes, I am being aggressive. Gintama is the the greatest comedy show out there, yet, even though it's a parody and a gag show, it is still heavily centered around it's characters. Almost every character got their fair share of development and depth. Even so, I don't see nobody taking it seriously outside of the serious arcs. Konosuba, wich you claimed to have no character development, provided an entire movie to give Megumin some development. Character development, story, themes... etc are not what decide whether a show is serious or not; the author does, and that is shown through the story-writing. The entire debate of whether a show is serious or not is simply wrong; as wrong as comparing a brick of concrete with a lightyear. See? It doesn't make sense. And so is your debate. Your basing your entire argument on how you feel when your opinion doesn't bring anything onto the table. Moral of the speech. If you think that your opinion matters in an objective discussion, then you're simply wrong. |
Zehennagel said: borderliner said: I edited my post after you answer so here's what I wrote : no seriously, what I'm saying is that this is not a completely comedic anime, its got serious themes etc, and this is clearly a crime but its brushed off as nothing, for imersion I thought this is a problem, it makes more sense to have something completely comedic and nothing serious, no consequences, or something where there are consequences and a crime has consequences. but in my opinion to have both like this, especially a crime, doesn't make much sense imo.So, your discussion point is that comedy shows need to have the characters acting within societal norms otherwise you get bothered by it? Is that a reasonable summary of what you actually want to talk about? I think your logic is flawed, in fact I'd argue that serious issues often benefit from being explored through comedy. This is a show about what is often debilitating, the reality of having a condition like Komi-sans is most likely a life of social exclusion. The comedic pretence of the show brings Komi to the centre of all things. I should point out that I'm no fan of some of the show's more absurd characters, but their existence does point to the author wanting to explore Komi-san's condition through those absurdities. And in the context of that premise scenes like Tadano's kidnap are fair game. |
borderlinerAug 19, 2022 12:33 PM
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| I've accepted the fact that the average anime is NOT a good source of comedy. There are some great ones like Saiki K, Konosuba, Kaguya Sama and Prison School, but your average RomCom or Isekai are not the best place to look for. |
Potatoboy11 said: well I never said that character development was what made a comedy or not, you just extrapolated from me.Zehennagel said: well if you wanna have the last word this bad, I'll let you have it. I don't consider this show as totaly "comedic" like a konosuba or other, there is still some character development and all, and it adresses the themes seriously. we just disagree on that. We don't have to call each other stupid, or being agressive, but I guess this is internet so my bad, should have known better Gintama is the the greatest comedy show out there, yet, even though it's a parody and a gag show, it is still heavily centered around it's characters. Almost every character got their fair share of development and depth. Even so, I don't see nobody taking it seriously outside of the serious arcs. Konosuba, wich you claimed to have no character development, provided an entire movie to give Megumin some development. Character development, story, themes... etc are not what decide whether a show is serious or not; the author does, and that is shown through the story-writing. The entire debate of whether a show is serious or not is simply wrong; as wrong as comparing a brick of concrete with a lightyear. See? It doesn't make sense. And so is your debate. Your basing your entire argument on how you feel when your opinion doesn't bring anything onto the table. Moral of the speech. If you think that your opinion matters in an objective discussion, then you're simply wrong. and no, it's not just how I feel, clearly the show has some serious moments, and if you must, you can rewatch the scene in which the kidnapped guy is behind, its pretty creepy and clearly noy made to laugh, later it's debatable, but in this scene, clearly, there are touching moments, I don't see how anyone other than a psychopatch could laugh a that scene. Not because of the crime or whatever but clearly, it's not comedic, in this scene, again. That's what I'm tlaking about. and in fact, in the rest of the show, what I meant by serious that maybe wasn't very clear, is that there are clearly touching moments between the characters, in a comedy without consequences, you don't realy care about the characters feelings, they're so over the top, but the 2 mc are developped, seriously, and when they have those touching moments, it's not funny or anything. This was one of these moments. So serious, touching, important, and yet all of it in the context of a crime, who didn't have any consequences. that makes it less coherent imo. What I'm saying is : you can't feel the "seriousness" of the show even though it is, and the scene was, in my opinion, if crimes have no consequences, yet again its not a "complete" comedy since it has some srious, touching themes and all. but I understand its just one part of the show, it wasn't to my taste but I don't think its a bad anime. and about gintama, it's not a realy good example. the last quarter of the series was serious, touching, etc, but apart from a few exeptions, there was next to no comedy, in dozens of episodes(compared to the other 3/4 of the series which were comedy gold). |
ZehennagelAug 19, 2022 2:55 PM
borderliner said: okay that's interesting, so you're saying that having a clear scenario doesn't realy matter, its about what's described ? like in some kubrick movies ? Zehennagel said: I edited my post after you answer so here's what I wrote : no seriously, what I'm saying is that this is not a completely comedic anime, its got serious themes etc, and this is clearly a crime but its brushed off as nothing, for imersion I thought this is a problem, it makes more sense to have something completely comedic and nothing serious, no consequences, or something where there are consequences and a crime has consequences. but in my opinion to have both like this, especially a crime, doesn't make much sense imo. I think your logic is flawed, in fact I'd argue that serious issues often benefit from being explored through comedy. This is a show about what is often debilitating, the reality of having a condition like Komi-sans is most likely a life of social exclusion. The comedic pretence of the show brings Komi to the centre of all things. I should point out that I'm no fan of some of the show's more absurd characters, but their existence does point to the author wanting to explore Komi-san's condition through those absurdities. And in the context of that premise scenes like Tadano's kidnap are fair game. |
Zehennagel said: borderliner said: okay that's interesting, so you're saying that having a clear scenario doesn't realy matter, its about what's described ? like in some kubrick movies ? I think your logic is flawed, in fact I'd argue that serious issues often benefit from being explored through comedy. This is a show about what is often debilitating, the reality of having a condition like Komi-sans is most likely a life of social exclusion. The comedic pretence of the show brings Komi to the centre of all things. I should point out that I'm no fan of some of the show's more absurd characters, but their existence does point to the author wanting to explore Komi-san's condition through those absurdities. And in the context of that premise scenes like Tadano's kidnap are fair game. No way I'm going to be comparing this to a Kubrick movie, though you can point to how absurd Dr Strangelove is and the deadly serious topic it tackles. But be it Stanley Kubrick or Mike Meyers, Attack on Titan or Komi-san the characters only need to behave believably within the framework of their setting. |
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Zehennagel said: I wouldn't bother me if it was a simple comedy anime like konosuba or whatever where there are no consequences, but this is clearly a serious anime, with some comedy in it, and when that girl fucking KIDNAPS tadano, absolutely nothing happens ? she just says "sorry" the next day, tadano wasn't even going to do anything ? Yep, one of the big reasons that I hate this anime. It's really gross and it gets worst. Much worst. |
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