The Case Study of Vanitas
| The show is more historical than being it romance I'd say. |
"......If I told you that I was a real witch, would you believe it?"  |
| wait, Vanitas is a romance anime/manga all along? |
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| agreed but honestly i just pretend like those dont exist lmao. jean's a nice girl and i like vanitas, nothing against them just not a fan of ....whatever is going on between them so i just ignore it. same with noe and dominique though rather of not liking their romance its just rly forgettable for me |
KaiXy_ said: For real! I mean, yes it's not romance focus because it's shounen, but the horrible romance stands out the most rather than it's actual genres. They said the romance specially with vanitas and jeanne is necessary for the plot but I can't see any important aspect in their relationship aside from character development purposes. Their whole interaction and relationship seem more like a fanservice. It's not because it's a shounen that it cannot be romance focus (e.g. Horimiya, Fuuka, Suzuka are shonen and romance focus), but I agree that the romance affects the flow of the story for this series. |
| But romance isn't the point of the show. |
| I favor both of the relationships (Vanitas and Jeanne even moreso), but at the same time it's more a subplot or supporting element of the story than the central plot. Meaning it can be emphasized and take center stage, then be shifted to the backburner without too much disruption to the congruence and flow of the show. I thought while watching this first season that the series could use a Romance genre tag, but I'd say its primary focus is moreso with the tags it already has - Historical, Vampire, and Supernatural. And if a Romance genre tag were to be added, then it could very easily and credibly be argued that Comedy and Drama genre tags should be added too. KaiXy_ said: For real! I mean, yes it's not romance focus because it's shounen, but the horrible romance stands out the most rather than it's actual genres. They said the romance specially with vanitas and jeanne is necessary for the plot but I can't see any important aspect in their relationship aside from character development purposes. Their whole interaction and relationship seem more like a fanservice. In some series, character development is itself crucial to and part of the plot. In some cases, the characters basically "are" the plot. |
WatchTillTandavaJan 22, 2022 1:32 AM
| I just dropped the serie after ep 3 I can't believe the Mc stole a kiss from a girl against her will and was about to rape her... The author went too far with this joke and obviously have no morals |
tragedydesuJan 22, 2022 8:17 AM
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shivamrajput958 said: tragedydesu said: lol he was not about to rape her,wtf did we watched the same show it's just a kiss and a proposal after that nothing more nothing less.I just dropped the serie after ep 3 I can't believe the Mc stole a kiss from a girl against her will and was about to rape her... The author went too far with this joke and obviously have no morals he said 'he wanted more' before that guy stopped him , okay maybe he wasn't going to rape her but he went too far 'just a kiss' are you telling me that stealing a kiss from a girl against her will is okay?? and yeah a proposal after a sexual harassment.. so romantic not sure if i'm a highly sensitive person or just people's morals this days are too weird anyway i can't possibly forgive that kind of scenes btw i agree with op ,this anime would be so much better if it didn't have any romance |
tragedydesuJan 22, 2022 8:55 AM
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| @shivamrajput958 i'm not okay with that kind of scenes at all but i can swallow them under some conditions , the mc is supposed to be likable and easy to root for him , if a villain sexual harass a girl then it makes sense he is an asshole he is supposed to be hated the gank rape in mirrai nikki was commited by evil characters not the main characters (im glad they got slaughtered) the stealing kiss in noragami was so disgusting and unnecessary , i just forced myself to finish that anime because only 2 episodes left i watched death note a long time ago so i don't remember L doing that , i'm not okay with it even as a joke |
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| these romance are pretty rare anyways |
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| I'm only 4 episodes in and yeah the romance is not the best. It's like a 12 year old wrote a wattpad book. |
| VnK's romance is boring and poorly developed, chapter 11 was the worst, Vanitas x Jeanne is really annoying. I watched this because I thought it would be like Pandora Hearts. Romance shouldn't be included if it isn't going to be well written and for VnK is unnecessary. Agree with @Alice0006 |
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| I don’t know I like it, Vanitas & Jeanne’s interactions are funny. |
“You flounder through life, struggling desperately so you won't drown, even though you would float if you'd just relax.” |
| The romance has no depth which is what make it seem as simply annoying fanservice. Some commenters above saying "its not about romance anyway" is really mystifying, that aspect of the show shouldn't be here if it isn't going to be done properly. Even if its not the primary plot if its included at all it needs to be competently done. Part of the reason why I doubt I'll ever watch season 2. That and Vanitas being one of the most annoying characters I've had the displeasure of watching. Jeanne turning into a badass when introduced into a blushing non entity from then on doesn't help either. |
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| Vanitas no Karte is not a romance focused anime. |
tragedydesu said: I just dropped the serie after ep 3 I can't believe the Mc stole a kiss from a girl against her will and was about to rape her... The author went too far with this joke and obviously have no morals Why are you going on about morals in anime when you really love the couple in Taishou Otome Otogibanashi? It looks like an adult being in a relationship with a kid. |
FlamingMangos said: tragedydesu said: I just dropped the serie after ep 3 I can't believe the Mc stole a kiss from a girl against her will and was about to rape her... The author went too far with this joke and obviously have no morals Why are you going on about morals in anime when you really love the couple in Taishou Otome Otogibanashi? It looks like an adult being in a relationship with a kid. Being very short = kid? have you never met short people who don't look like their age? The age gap btw them is 2 years,he is too tall for his age and she's too short for her age |
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tragedydesu said: FlamingMangos said: Why are you going on about morals in anime when you really love the couple in Taishou Otome Otogibanashi? It looks like an adult being in a relationship with a kid. Being very short = kid? have you never met short people who don't look like their age? The age gap btw them is 2 years,he is too tall for his age and she's too short for her age There's a difference with being short and looking literally like you're 8 years old. Like cmon on, don't make excuses. It's obviously meant to be a loli character and the age is just an excuse to make it acceptable like the vampire loli stereotype. Just look at the author's work and there's a pattern with lolis. I'm not gonna judge you because anime is just not the place to go on about morals. Just don't talk about morals when your favorite couple looks like a kid with an adult. |
FlamingMangosApr 2, 2022 12:01 AM
| @FlamingMangos it can be an excuse and it also can be realistic ,at workplace i know a girl who is 28 but looks like 14 (im also a very short person) you have never seen this anime so stop talking about something you don't know anything about i'm not here to teach people about morals lol , i can watch an anime with a serial killer but there is no way i can watch it with a rapist/or an mc who sexual harass girls (i may watched one ot two of them in the past but i can't stand them anymore) |
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| Maybe her famous work "Pandora hearts" will help you to understand how Jun actually portrays 'romance' in general, Take a note that her work is mostly broad minded and warped up with complexity. |
tragedydesu said: shivamrajput958 said: lol he was not about to rape her,wtf did we watched the same show it's just a kiss and a proposal after that nothing more nothing less. he said 'he wanted more' before that guy stopped him , okay maybe he wasn't going to rape her but he went too far 'just a kiss' are you telling me that stealing a kiss from a girl against her will is okay?? and yeah a proposal after a sexual harassment.. so romantic not sure if i'm a highly sensitive person or just people's morals this days are too weird anyway i can't possibly forgive that kind of scenes btw i agree with op ,this anime would be so much better if it didn't have any romance Bruuuh, y'all a bunch of Incel fr. Go touch some grass and get bitten by a woman in real life + L + Ratio. |
gswelcome said: The romance has no depth which is what make it seem as simply annoying fanservice. Some commenters above saying "its not about romance anyway" is really mystifying, that aspect of the show shouldn't be here if it isn't going to be done properly. Even if its not the primary plot if its included at all it needs to be competently done. Part of the reason why I doubt I'll ever watch season 2. That and Vanitas being one of the most annoying characters I've had the displeasure of watching. Jeanne turning into a badass when introduced into a blushing non entity from then on doesn't help either. You should give at least a few episodes of part 2 a try, and there's only romance in like 3 episodes. I don't ship them either, but it becomes better in the second half. |
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tragedydesu said: @FlamingMangos it can be an excuse and it also can be realistic ,at workplace i know a girl who is 28 but looks like 14 (im also a very short person) you have never seen this anime so stop talking about something you don't know anything about i'm not here to teach people about morals lol , i can watch an anime with a serial killer but there is no way i can watch it with a rapist/or an mc who sexual harass girls (i may watched one ot two of them in the past but i can't stand them anymore) Just a quick update, @tragedydesu has been proven to be an Incel unlike the people in this thread. Most of you guys are probably in a relationship compared to this weirdo. |
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