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Oct 21, 2020 7:43 PM
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A former Florida teacher admitted to having a “crush” on a student after there was a sexual encounter between them at his home, authorities said.

Kristen O’Brien, who quit her job last month at United Brethren Christ Academy in Holy Hill, was arrested Friday for having inappropriate sexual contact with a student, news station WFTV reported.

The 31-year-old was confronted by the boy’s mother after she noticed concerning messages on his phone, police said.

O’Brien told the mom that she had an “inappropriate emotional relationship” with the student in which she had a “crush” on him, authorities said.

She claimed that she had given the boy three options: They could pretend she never told him she had a crush; they could end communication with each other; or they could do whatever they wanted and not care about any repercussions, the Daytona Beach News-Journal reported.

O’Brien said on one occasion, the boy touched her in a sexual manner while they were under a blanket on the couch at his home, the newspaper reported.

The teacher also admitted at one point she had tried to “make [the boy] jealous” by tutoring his brother and taking him to McDonald’s, police said.

O’Brien faces charges of lewd and lascivious battery and committing a sexual act on a child older than 12 but younger than 16, the outlets reported. She was released from jail on $50,000 bail.

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https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/ex-florida-teacher-arrested-for-sexual-encounter-with-student/

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Oct 21, 2020 9:44 PM
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Did we hit Bingo here?

>Florida

>Female Teacher fucking a kid

>FREE SPACE

>She gets treated far less strict compared to if the situation was a male teacher on a female student

>It happened at a Religious school


BINGO, BINGO, BINGO!!!

Oct 21, 2020 9:59 PM
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If she didn't explicitly invite him to touch her doesn't sound like much of a case against her. The wording here sounds like that's all that happened.
Oct 21, 2020 10:19 PM
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bro what's with all ur posts about shit teachers on ce? are you trying to tell us something
Oct 22, 2020 7:14 AM
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Theonewhorules said:
bro what's with all ur posts about shit teachers on ce? are you trying to tell us something


Simply showing you the failures of the school system.

Oct 22, 2020 10:25 AM
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Crow_Black said:


The teacher also admitted at one point she had tried to “make [the boy] jealous” by tutoring his brother and taking him to McDonald’s, police said.



I feel bad for the poor kid, but this McDonald's stuff made me laugh so hard.
Oct 22, 2020 11:41 AM
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Crow_Black said:
Theonewhorules said:
bro what's with all ur posts about shit teachers on ce? are you trying to tell us something


Simply showing you the failures of the school system.

Your posts have literally nothing to do with the school system.
Oct 22, 2020 12:25 PM
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traed said:
Crow_Black said:


Simply showing you the failures of the school system.

Your posts have literally nothing to do with the school system.


Well clearly this is a failure having teachers like these and the other ones go wildn out and why i rather homeschool kids instead.

Oct 22, 2020 12:52 PM
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the question is, was the teacher hot though?
Oct 22, 2020 3:32 PM

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Promethazine said:
the question is, was the teacher hot though?

Well you can see her pic at the link in OP
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Oct 22, 2020 4:04 PM

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Crow_Black said:
traed said:

Your posts have literally nothing to do with the school system.


Well clearly this is a failure having teachers like these and the other ones go wildn out and why i rather homeschool kids instead.

The only common thread you've found is that they are teachers. They aren't even in the same states (in a couple cases being from different countries) and the range of focus for wrongdoing wildly varies between them.
That doesn't reinforce an argument for homeschooling or every instance of anecdotal evidence of abusive parents would reinforce the need for places like public schools
Oct 22, 2020 6:29 PM

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Fatephile said:
Promethazine said:
the question is, was the teacher hot though?

Well you can see her pic at the link in OP

nvm teacher deserves to go to jail jus for looking like that
Oct 22, 2020 7:44 PM

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Isn't this some porn plot
Oct 22, 2020 7:48 PM

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Promethazine said:
Fatephile said:

Well you can see her pic at the link in OP

nvm teacher deserves to go to jail jus for looking like that

As if anyone ever looks fantastic in a mug shot. She's at least average.
Oct 22, 2020 8:28 PM

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So once again, it was an obsessive helicopter parent deciding to ruin a teacher's life over something her son probably enjoyed.

I'm so fucking sick of all these parents in denial about their teenage offspring's hormones. In a rational country not consumed by hysteria over age gap relationships like ours is, this teacher would be seen as having done something very positive for the boy's development. Giving him an easy first relationship so that when he does go on to date a girl his own age he has a lot of valuable experience to help him through the process. But no, instead our sick society throws innocent people in prison and destroys their lives because they are desperate to continue living in their fantasy land where teenagers are asexual beings with no hormones.

I swear these parents are the ones who deserve to go to prison, not the teachers.
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Oct 22, 2020 8:35 PM

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Well, I've read the article summary and I don't see on what basis charges are levied against her. Battery and committing a sexual act? What battery and what sexual act (or they may be considering them one and the same for the purposes of this case) did she allegedly commit? The only thing written about any overt sexual action was the teen student "touched her in a sexual manner while they were under a blanket."

No actual assault, rape, coercion or intimidation, bribery or blackmail/extortion is really either proven or even alleged here in the case of the teacher in question.

A parent would pretty predictably and understandably be upset (most parents, anyway) and it's reasonable for the school to fire her, but there's really no basis or validity behind mounting a criminal charge here.
Oct 22, 2020 9:09 PM

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traed said:
Promethazine said:

nvm teacher deserves to go to jail jus for looking like that

As if anyone ever looks fantastic in a mug shot. She's at least average.

what man, its just my opinion. she looks like she shoots heroin up her veins tho
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Ryuk9428 said:
So once again, it was an obsessive helicopter parent deciding to ruin a teacher's life over something her son probably enjoyed.

I'm so fucking sick of all these parents in denial about their teenage offspring's hormones. In a rational country not consumed by hysteria over age gap relationships like ours is, this teacher would be seen as having done something very positive for the boy's development. Giving him an easy first relationship so that when he does go on to date a girl his own age he has a lot of valuable experience to help him through the process. But no, instead our sick society throws innocent people in prison and destroys their lives because they are desperate to continue living in their fantasy land where teenagers are asexual beings with no hormones.

I swear these parents are the ones who deserve to go to prison, not the teachers.

I'm surprised you don't have Onegai☆Teacher or Nande Koko ni Sensei ga!? on your list with a post like this. You do have Domestic Girlfriend on there but you only gave it a 7 for some reason.


I did not know about them but they are on PTW list now.

A 7 is a good rating. I didn't think it was amazing, but it was good.
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WatchTillTandava said:
Well, I've read the article summary and I don't see on what basis charges are levied against her. Battery and committing a sexual act? What battery and what sexual act (or they may be considering them one and the same for the purposes of this case) did she allegedly commit? The only thing written about any overt sexual action was the teen student "touched her in a sexual manner while they were under a blanket."

No actual assault, rape, coercion or intimidation, bribery or blackmail/extortion is really either proven or even alleged here in the case of the teacher in question.

A parent would pretty predictably and understandably be upset (most parents, anyway) and it's reasonable for the school to fire her, but there's really no basis or validity behind mounting a criminal charge here.

Looking at the charges "Lewd or Lascivious Battery" is explicitly a charge for sexual contact with a minor. Groping probably being the most obvious example (other names for it could be Statutory rape depending on the degree of the act or the jurisdiction definitions).

Inherently most versions of sexual battery include unwanted touching of intimate body parts without consent or through fraud, but this particular variation is explicitly in reference to the involvement of a minor.
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This is serious. We need to track this student down and give him his "Luckiest Boy in America" medal right away!
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GamerDLM said:
Looking at the charges "Lewd or Lascivious Battery" is explicitly a charge for sexual contact with a minor. Groping probably being the most obvious example (other names for it could be Statutory rape depending on the degree of the act or the jurisdiction definitions).

Inherently most versions of sexual battery include unwanted touching of intimate body parts without consent or through fraud, but this particular variation is explicitly in reference to the involvement of a minor.


Then I would say it's a shame and a waste of resources as well if they go down that route considering it doesn't seem like from the sequence of events established they'll have any proof to substantiate a claim of her initiating it. The parents can be angry and the school, like any other employer, can choose to fire over this or basically any other reason they deem fit (had she not already quit in what may or have not been a classic forced resignation), but if the student caressed or stimulated her in some way I would think there would be a burden of proof required to establish she was the initiating party and pursuer as after all, in the eyes of the outside observer it could have been an act the student did of his own will and she could even claim being displeased about it and retreating from the scene unless it was foolishly filmed like so many people do nowadays. But you can't really effectively and efficiently prosecute someone for being a recipient of a sexual advance.

This is one of the typical cases where the lawyers involved can essentially weave any story around it they so wish as the tangible proof of any legally incriminating "wrongdoing" is basically next to zero as it's all inferred and about looking unseemly.
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WatchTillTandava said:
GamerDLM said:
Looking at the charges "Lewd or Lascivious Battery" is explicitly a charge for sexual contact with a minor. Groping probably being the most obvious example (other names for it could be Statutory rape depending on the degree of the act or the jurisdiction definitions).

Inherently most versions of sexual battery include unwanted touching of intimate body parts without consent or through fraud, but this particular variation is explicitly in reference to the involvement of a minor.


Then I would say it's a shame and a waste of resources as well if they go down that route considering it doesn't seem like from the sequence of events established they'll have any proof to substantiate a claim of her initiating it. The parents can be angry and the school, like any other employer, can choose to fire over this or basically any other reason they deem fit (had she not already quit in what may or have not been a classic forced resignation), but if the student caressed or stimulated her in some way I would think there would be a burden of proof required to establish she was the initiating party and pursuer as after all, in the eyes of the outside observer it could have been an act the student did of his own will and she could even claim being displeased about it and retreating from the scene unless it was foolishly filmed like so many people do nowadays. But you can't really effectively and efficiently prosecute someone for being a recipient of a sexual advance.

This is one of the typical cases where the lawyers involved can essentially weave any story around it they so wish as the tangible proof of any legally incriminating "wrongdoing" is basically next to zero as it's all inferred and about looking unseemly.

From a legal stance it doesn't really matter who initiated, consensual or otherwise it still falls under "Lewd or Lascivious Battery" due to the involvement of a minor. As an adult it would be considered her responsibility to reject those advances or notify the parents, guardians or other authoritative figures if he continued to attempt to pursue them. But based on her own statements she was an active and willing participant in a continued relationship only stating she attempted to break it off after being confronted by the mother. It was also implied there were multiple occurrences but the story only gave one specific example.
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GamerDLM said:
From a legal stance it doesn't really matter who initiated, consensual or otherwise it still falls under "Lewd or Lascivious Battery" due to the involvement of a minor. As an adult it would be considered her responsibility to reject those advances or notify the parents, guardians or other authoritative figures if he continued to attempt to pursue them. But based on her own statements she was an active and willing participant in a continued relationship only stating she attempted to break it off after being confronted by the mother. It was also implied there were multiple occurrences but the story only gave one specific example.


All I can say in this case is that I'm definitely hoping (well, to the extent I care to begin with; I mean, more intellectually as I'm not all too emotionally invested as I've only skimmed this and these cases crop up a dime a dozen) it gets thrown out or she gets off hassle-free and easily as I definitely do not agree with any of these laws or statutes which predicate the nature of any sexual encounter strictly on lines of age; similar to the statutory rape offenses and such. Every situation, at least in cases where both parties are post-pubescent, should probably have to be reviewed on a much more individually rigorous basis and thoroughly to determine malice and coercion and age largely left out of it, except in the case of predation on obviously unwilling participants.
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WatchTillTandava said:
Every situation, at least in cases where both parties are post-pubescent, should probably have to be reviewed on a much more individually rigorous basis and thoroughly to determine malice and coercion and age largely left out of it, except in the case of predation on obviously unwilling participants.

That's what they do in Germany, Austria, and a few others I think Romania is another maybe iirc..
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