| Your coworker burned her hands so badly that she was crying and needed bandages. You witnessed it and your response was to walk away to go greet a customer. HungryForQuality said: Yup. am I a douchebag I'm a psycho Definitely.How bad would it be if we lost a customer? Not even the slightest bit bad.What could I have done anyway? Almost anything other than what you actually did. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Dude, she burned her hand on coffee, maybe attend to that before dealing with some slack jawed customer. |
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| profit over people (capitalism at its finest) but kidding aside ye just say sorry dude nothing much you can do than to be better next time, you greeting the customer happen after you saw her get injured so nah thats a bad excuse in your part |
| Nice job. You should have just stood there sipping your coffee as she wriggled on the floor lol |
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Peaceful_Critic said: In regards to this subject. Mom used to tell me about a crowd mentality similar to what OP experienced. Where people would assume someone else would take care of the problem(To see what I'm talking about go to #2 on the list). Mom always warned against telling me to help regardless of whether there was a crowd or not. I think this is what happened to OP. that site blocked the VPN im using, is it pointing out the bystander effect? if so ye that is a reasonable explanation to what happen here |
Peaceful_Critic said: deg said: Ah, that's what it's called, yeah the article pointed that out(not labeling the effect though).that site blocked the VPN im using, is it pointing out the bystander effect? if so ye that is a reasonable explanation to what happen here i see but he cannot use the bystander effect as an excuse though lol, i mean most people will just say wtf are you talking about when you pointed out explanations like that |
| Based on the description of events, yes. Because according to the order of events you listed; after she burned her hands you did 4 different things and none of them were attempting to ask anyone for assistance. You even made a specific point how you put more emphasis on telling a coworker not to take your coffee than you did helping the person who just burned their hands. Even the case with the customer seems like post event rationale. If you had called somebody over to assist her and then said you would go handle the customers that would be a different story. But according to the events as you described them you completely disconnected yourself from the incident and to some extent actively acted as if it wasn't happening. |
GamerDLMMay 3, 2019 5:37 PM
If I know that the co-worker is clumsy I would of helped her regardles if she didn't want my help. In the end most people are stuck up with pride and don't want help for simple things cause they think they can do it alone. We all have our fuck ups though there's always the things that need your attention right away and some that can wait. The customer could of waited. You wouldn't have lost your job over it if he had left from not being able to wait a minute desu.~ |
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| Honestly sounds like your co-workers are over-reacting, how well do you know this co-worker anyway? Like do you greet her in the morning and shit? Tbh unless she asked you for help specifically I don't think its a big deal. Hell I've cut my arms/fingers, burned myself and had some pretty bad sprains at work and I didn't need people to fucking come to my aid and save me. I kind of feel like your co-worker either just wanted to the attention or she felt really dumb for not listening to your advice and wants to make you feel guilty. |
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| Mmmm, I wouldn't say you're a "psycho", just maybe a little bit insensitive, judging by your reaction in that case. Everyone makes mistakes and that doesn't determine who you are as a person nor how you will react to similar situations in the future. I would probably apologise to her and do better next time. |
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HungryForQuality said: LoneWolf said: Honestly sounds like your co-workers are over-reacting, how well do you know this co-worker anyway? Like do you greet her in the morning and shit? Tbh unless she asked you for help specifically I don't think its a big deal. Hell I've cut my arms/fingers, burned myself and had some pretty bad sprains at work and I didn't need people to fucking come to my aid and save me. I kind of feel like your co-worker either just wanted to the attention or she felt really dumb for not listening to your advice and wants to make you feel guilty. I know it's not a justification according to general society, but I dislike her personally. She's always treated me poorly and condescendingly. And so maybe that partly caused the inaction? It's definitely possible for I'm not a robot. Ultimately though, I should have been impartial and not let my personal feelings get in the way of something that was bigger than me. Oh yeah if she was being a bitch to you and expecting you to go out of your way to help her after she didn't even seem to heed your warning about being careful that's just entitled on her part. Yeah I burnt my palm at work and just laughed it off after wrapping it up (I have first aid training tho); she sounds like a drama queen tbh. Best to avoid those types unless its work related. |
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| given that all she needed was bandages, the injury probably wasnt that serious. still, it would be proper to offer help in this situation. not offering makes you look as though you dont care. |
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| After seeing the responses I feel like I'm gonna come off mean here but I'd say it depends if you like this co-worker or not. If you do then yes, you should show more compassion and give her a sincere apology, explain the reasons you didn't go to immediately help her as they're justified in a professional environment. If you don't however, I'd say just move past it, we're not obligated help people and in this scenario you've already done more than enough for her by the initial warning. |
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Maenads said: You can get burned...is that not enough? lol You can get seriously burned (2nd) by most things when hot enough.Seems like the kind of thing everyone will forget by next Thursday. Honestly I don't see how this would matter, unless your coworker is a petty and whiny person. How bad can you get burnt from coffee? I've never worked in an office and to me people getting minor burns is fairly common, mostly they just treat themselves. If she didn't have to go to the hospital I wouldn't stress it. HungryForQuality said: So hot coffee burned your co-workers hand? More precise, your coffee--It wasn't that petty. That was a minor reason. It was more I thought we could kill two birds with one stone. I handle the upcoming sale and the rest handle the injured person. Maximum efficiency. If it's not part of their job duty to get you coffee, than was it a small favor, even asking them to do so? Did it impede on their own ability to work in the immediate future (can she use her hands w/o pain)? In the end, it seems you didn't have consideration for what they did, nor went through (regardless of fault) to get you coffee. Should've said aloud your thought process, that way your actions didn't socially come off the way it was felt. was I close? |
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I'm an even scale type of person and I wouldn't choose to keep a pitch perfect friendship with someone if it meant knowing that someone else could get hurt and possibly loose any chances to have em as an ally later on. Why am I saying this? I had a really good friendship with my boss at a restaurant I used to work at too and a customer walked in wanting to eat food but they didn't have any money. I told the cook to make em a sandwhich on the house because I wanted to do a good deed for em. My boss yelled at me in the back and gave me the death stare as well that day even after I told him that I'd pay for the meal. Days later the same customer walked in and chose to eat there again, they ordered a bunch of food and gave me a 50 dollar tip, they whispered to me saying thank you for the meal. They became a returning customer from then on. If I would of done nothing for him the day he wanted to buy food they would of probably gone hungry and I don't like to have a dirty conscience knowing that someone could get hurt is what I'm trying to get at. Sorry for telling you a story that probably has almost nothing to do with the topic at hand and that I'm a total stranger to you desu.~ Ps: Gomenasai for not greeting ya earlier. Konichiwa and I hope that most of your day goes as planned from now on.~ |
L0LlMay 3, 2019 6:24 PM
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HungryForQuality said: LoneWolf said: Oh yeah if she was being a bitch to you and expecting you to go out of your way to help her after she didn't seem heed your warning about being careful that's just entitled on her part. Yeah I burnt my palm at work and just laughed it off; she sounds like a drama queen tbh. Avoid unless its work related. Oh shit, so you're like an anomaly of general society. Damn, I thought my boss and my close friends were the only ones ( who aren't in prison, a mental asylum, or a filthy rich CEO) That shit's really interesting. Honestly I don't think its that different, I'm a pretty polite person IRL and I feel like I generally treat ppl well, but like I just don't like going out of my way to help ppl, because then I feel responsible for them. Like I just don't like half-measures.... if I really care about someone and want to see them happy and successful in life I'll try to put some actual effort and time into it. If not then its w.e they can help themselves if not someone else can. 7 billion ppl on this planet I'm sure 1 of them gives enough of a fuck about you to go out of their way, but it isn't me lol. |
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HungryForQuality said: Most people do it to some extent. The allure of the thread wasn't the question of empathy for me, more so your rationale for tasking her care to others while you handled the customer-- You're right. My actions were callous even if that was not my intention. I genuinely realize the error of my ways. My old boss calls that management material, and I like the mental-negotiation and execution being used. Something about that speaks to character or work ethic to me. |
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Peaceful_Critic said: deg said: Yeah it's not an excuse, that said, I don't think of them as an awful person or a psycho for it. They do seem to feel guilty. I don't think they would've made the thread if they were. i see but he cannot use the bystander effect as an excuse though lol, i mean most people will just say wtf are you talking about when you pointed out explanations like that agreed on that, those people that call him a psycho might just be exaggerating |
Maenads said: True, it just seem odd to compare an extreme case of burn like your co-worker's to other lesser burns. I would say the conclusion from that just means his burn is as bad as you would want to get. Burns are not equal is true but to say something liquid or common as coffee can't inflict serious burns (Not suggesting the coworker mentioned in the thread suffered such a thing) would be a faulty logic to follow, if you consider the effect is medically termed scalding.Silverstorm said: You can get burned...is that not enough? lol You can get seriously burned (2nd) by most things when hot enough. No not really, burns are not created equally..for example one of my coworkers was welding while harnessed in the air and he caught himself on fire. Nobody could get to him so he was just stuck up there burning for a while. He got fired for wearing improper clothing and he spent a month in the hospital. I would think with coffee that you could shake it off, bandage yourself, and get back to work. But I wasn't there so I don't know. |
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