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| I just started reading it I look forward to see why is it so much popular :D |
 "I want to show that woman the true Yoshikage Kira. I want her to hear how I feel deep inside. That I want to take your slender neck into these hands and strangle you to death." |
| I also want to know. Some of my friends told me it's the best tragedy story of all time... |
| Excellent art, excellent plot, excellent characters, excellent representation of a fantasy, excellent sountracks (it's a manga but if it had soundtracks it would be excellent too). and of course, it is difficult to stop reading it. |
| It's pretty much the opposite of a masterpiece and nowhere near a conclusion. I also doubt that Miuara has any motivation for his baby besides keeping it somehow alive to generate money. You only need to check the Hiatus Chart (1989-2018) and compare its peak in terms of plot, characterization, and intensity (Golden Age Arc) to everything that followed up in the next 20+ years. Pretty underwhelming, to say the least. Progress is a huge understatement. :/ |
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| It's already been explained plenty of times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQaUEr65eaI |
changelog said: crescensXG said: It's pretty much the opposite of a masterpiece and nowhere near a conclusion. I also doubt that Miuara has any motivation for his baby besides keeping it somehow alive to generate money. I have never read Berserk, nor do I plan to in the future, but I can already see this to be the case. It is just ridiculous that Bersek has been publishing for so long and as you have mentioned I doubt the creators really have a passion for this series anymore. It would be hilarious if they just left it incomplete and left a message saying "Fuck You" in Japanese. And by incomplete I don't mean releasing a final chapter and then never touching the series again, I mean releasing a half-done chapter that finishes on a page where Griffith is about to reveal a secret but there is no next page. thats why i don't start reading, i'll wait and see whether people complain about the ending (if it ends during the next 20 years) , if its still highly acclaimed after the ending ill read it, but its been running so long come on.. its just ridiculous at this point |
| Berserk hasn't been a top tier manga in over 10 years. Miura has obviously lost interest in it, the quality of the art has plummeted (seems like his staff is just mimicking his style with a lot of it), the writing continues to go downhill, and all depth has disappeared from the plot. A lot of new people are discovering Berserk and binging through it because old fans continue to sing it's praises but as a fan of Berserk I can assure you it's far from a masterpiece at this point. Miura's essentially being held hostage by his contract with Young Animal and is content with living off the money from the Berserk anime, movies, and merch until he can work on something he cares about. Don't listen to new fans who read the whole thing in less than a year, it's a deeply flawed manga on every level. |
| I watched the Anime only, so my thoughts are kinda limited. What makes Berserk great for me? Oh man... is it the amazing premise? The philosophical quotes and questions the Anime throws at the viewer? The Susumu Hirasawa soundtrack? The beautiful character designs? The badass opening? No, while all of those are great on their own, what really makes Berserk a masterpiece for me are the well developed characters. Berserk has crafted such a splendid rivalry between Guts and Griffith, they clash in ideals yet are still friends throughout most of the show's run, which is actually kind of interesting. The minor characters in Berserk also get their fair share of development, from Casca to Judeau, none is left out. What made Berserk really stand out to me, though, was Griffith. He is such a complex character to the point of being human. He goes through so many emotions. He also had this intriguing aura surrounding him throughout the Anime's run, which made the conclusion all the more interesting. |
| Berserk brings a lot of people together. 1. It has a popular old anime series. Boomers onboard. 2. It has plenty of grotesque elements. Teenage edgelords onboard. 3. It has a western aesthetic that attracts western normies. 4. It has all the quintessential anime character tropes, and executed rather perfectly at that, attracting the weebs. These are for the most part rather ingeniously saved for later on and absent in the most popular anime adaptation so that that doesn't even drive away the boomers and other such surface fans. 5. Low fantasy roots attracts tryhards and weebs in denial. 6. High fantasy later on with some of the best worldbuilding in the genre attracts the fantasy fan neckbeards 7. It has such unbelievably good art that it becomes a mandatory 10/10 even for the subversive deconstruction critic types who would normally scream and squeal about the archetypal and "problematic" tropes (that are so common in the first place because they do work) being played straight. Those are left without the balls to write some 10k word essay complaining and get answered with a 10/10 panel when they are so desperate to maintain an image of appreciators of art. |
| Idk what to say to you...it's just good |
"I want to show that woman the true Yoshikage Kira. I want her to hear how I feel deep inside. That I want to take your slender neck into these hands and strangle you to death." |
| Literally everything art story character action porn political drama fantasy |
| Serious question: Is there even a point in it existing after all the questionable changes and massive drop in quality it went through all those 20+ years of "progress"? To me, there's no logical reason to consider it a favorite besides nostalgia. Miuara is literally taking the pi** :/ |
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| There are many fans that do not consider Golden Age as the best arc. And I agree to them. And for the question (including Golden Age) - Nothing. Absolutely nothing makes Berserk a masterpiece. |
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| It was a masterpiece, but the latest arc of the series has really watered down the series. It is just not that great anymore. |
This. My favorite volume is 26 so that's not Golden Age Arc. This manga changed my life. It's the best work I have ever seen. |
CresusJohnsonJul 22, 2019 6:05 AM
| Life-changing? Ok, I'm out. -g- |
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crescensXG said: Life-changing? Ok, I'm out. -g- Okay goodbye. :-) |
keragamming said: Is vagabond the same as I read some posts that Vagabond is on hiatus and Berserk often goes on hiatus but Is Vagabond also watered down or Is it still stable in comparison to berserk in story( if not including hiatuses)?It was a masterpiece, but the latest arc of the series has really watered down the series. It is just not that great anymore. |
| Should I troll in the troll bait threads? It is kinda idiotic to be logical in the troll bait threads. Well, it will depend on my mood. |
thekillfra said: puneetsingh said: Is vagabond the same as I read some posts that Vagabond is on hiatus and Berserk often goes on hiatus but Is Vagabond also watered down or Is it still stable in comparison to berserk in story( if not including hiatuses)? it depends on you, I personally have no problem with Berserk and Vagabond, but it is full of people who say it has become boring and nothing happens, I believe that hiatus condition readers more than they believe Its cool factor has died down, plus it became like a harem series with guts and friends going a long a journey, the intensity has gone and even Guts has become softer. The art style is still great and I agree the hiatus has dampen the series quality for a lot of folks including myself, but when I am reading the chapters now it is just not that interesting, I rated berserk a 10/10 back in the days but now it is a 7/10 at best for me, when I am reading it now, it feels like I am reading a ordinary dark manga. puneetsingh said: keragamming said: Is vagabond the same as I read some posts that Vagabond is on hiatus and Berserk often goes on hiatus but Is Vagabond also watered down or Is it still stable in comparison to berserk in story( if not including hiatuses)?It was a masterpiece, but the latest arc of the series has really watered down the series. It is just not that great anymore. I am not sure on Vagabond, only read about 10 chapters of that, I need to get back into it. |
keragamming said: What do you think that which manga you read has the best artstyle? Choose only one if you can but if you think that there are multiple manga with awesome artstyle that you can't decide which one has the edge over the other then you can name multiple.thekillfra said: it depends on you, I personally have no problem with Berserk and Vagabond, but it is full of people who say it has become boring and nothing happens, I believe that hiatus condition readers more than they believe Its cool factor has died down, plus it became like a harem series with guts and friends going a long a journey, the intensity has gone and even Guts has become softer. The art style is still great and I agree the hiatus has dampen the series quality for a lot of folks including myself, but when I am reading the chapters now it is just not that interesting, I rated berserk a 10/10 back in the days but now it is a 7/10 at best for me, when I am reading it now, it feels like I am reading a ordinary dark manga. puneetsingh said: Is vagabond the same as I read some posts that Vagabond is on hiatus and Berserk often goes on hiatus but Is Vagabond also watered down or Is it still stable in comparison to berserk in story( if not including hiatuses)? I am not sure on Vagabond, only read about 10 chapters of that, I need to get back into it. |
| Should I troll in the troll bait threads? It is kinda idiotic to be logical in the troll bait threads. Well, it will depend on my mood. |
thekillfra said: keragamming said: Its cool factor has died down, plus it became like a harem series with guts and friends going a long a journey, the intensity has gone and even Guts has become softer. The art style is still great and I agree the hiatus has dampen the series quality for a lot of folks including myself, but when I am reading the chapters now it is just not that interesting, I rated berserk a 10/10 back in the days but now it is a 7/10 at best for me, when I am reading it now, it feels like I am reading a ordinary dark manga. I am not sure on Vagabond, only read about 10 chapters of that, I need to get back into it. As I said it goes to taste, for example for SNK I don't even read it anymore I only look at the spoilers to know how it ends, since its characters don't interest me, the fact that you still call Berserk Dark manga when it's a fantasy tells me enough about your reasons and what you want, and considering that Miura once said that Berserk is a Shojo at his core , it's impossible you like it , the only thing you liked was the superficiality of the Dark manga . For me SNK is a 7/10 since it gives me no emotions, as you can see the world is varied with different tastes, but the fact is that Berserk remains statistically the best manga in practically every site, the fact that this has not changed in 20 years of decline as everyone says, is a sign that the decline does not exist. " it feels like I am reading a ordinary dark manga." I know it is a fantasy series, the point I'm making that it now feels like a generic dark manga, also "dark" is a loose term it can mean absolutely anything dark fantasy, edgy, gore you name it, its the easiest way to say this series isn't a happy story or story for the kindness of heart, I read the goblin slayer manga and that is how I feel when reading the berserk manga now, it just doesn't standout to me anymore. It just feels like a regular manga with extremely good art now. I don't even remember what is the main plot anymore is it Guts trying to have revenge against Griffith? Or to try and make Casa regain her memories? Also speaking of characters, I only remember three characters name in berserk and I have already mention them, I don't particular remember berserk as having a wide range of great characters and I couldn't care less either, I was following Guts and his character/development is all I cared for. Yes, I have heard plenty of people not liking snk because they are not attach to the characters, its plot driven series for a reason though, even so I felt the series in the later arcs took its time to develop some of its characters, especially Eren and in the current arc the characters are the one driving the plot, more so Eren and Zeke. This is probably due to the hiatus though. That is partly due to its great art, and yes you are right it is still a highly rated series no way I was denying that, but I can tell you that statistically speaking that majority of manga readers don't think the current arc in berserk is close in quality to the older arcs and that is also a fact as well. But as you say, "opinions" puneetsingh said: keragamming said: What do you think that which manga you read has the best artstyle? Choose only one if you can but if you think that there are multiple manga with awesome artstyle that you can't decide which one has the edge over the other then you can name multiple.Its cool factor has died down, plus it became like a harem series with guts and friends going a long a journey, the intensity has gone and even Guts has become softer. The art style is still great and I agree the hiatus has dampen the series quality for a lot of folks including myself, but when I am reading the chapters now it is just not that interesting, I rated berserk a 10/10 back in the days but now it is a 7/10 at best for me, when I am reading it now, it feels like I am reading a ordinary dark manga. I am not sure on Vagabond, only read about 10 chapters of that, I need to get back into it. I think Berserk is the best in terms of art style, Vagabond, One punch man, Claymore, Gantz and a few others come close as well. |
keragammingAug 24, 2019 4:31 PM
| The 1997 dubbed version of Berserk is one of my favorites. Good cast of characters and an excellent MC. I loved the setting and story too, but the later versions of Berserk.. 2016 and such.. Its sad to say but its dogshit. |
keragamming said: Is Berserk really has an edge over Vagabond? as I heard a lot of praise of Vagabond's art style but when it comes to Berserk the more praise is due to the story.thekillfra said: As I said it goes to taste, for example for SNK I don't even read it anymore I only look at the spoilers to know how it ends, since its characters don't interest me, the fact that you still call Berserk Dark manga when it's a fantasy tells me enough about your reasons and what you want, and considering that Miura once said that Berserk is a Shojo at his core , it's impossible you like it , the only thing you liked was the superficiality of the Dark manga . For me SNK is a 7/10 since it gives me no emotions, as you can see the world is varied with different tastes, but the fact is that Berserk remains statistically the best manga in practically every site, the fact that this has not changed in 20 years of decline as everyone says, is a sign that the decline does not exist. " it feels like I am reading a ordinary dark manga." I know it is a fantasy series, the point I'm making that it now feels like a generic dark manga, also "dark" is a loose term it can mean absolutely anything dark fantasy, edgy, gore you name it, its the easiest way to say this series isn't a happy story or story for the kindness of heart, I read the goblin slayer manga and that is how I feel when reading the berserk manga now, it just doesn't standout to me anymore. It just feels like a regular manga with extremely good art now. I don't even remember what is the main plot anymore is it Guts trying to have revenge against Griffith? Or to try and make Casa regain her memories? Also speaking of characters, I only remember three characters name in berserk and I have already mention them, I don't particular remember berserk as having a wide range of great characters and I couldn't care less either, I was following Guts and his character/development is all I cared for. Yes, I have heard plenty of people not liking snk because they are not attach to the characters, its plot driven series for a reason though, even so I felt the series in the later arcs took its time to develop some of its characters, especially Eren and in the current arc the characters are the one driving the plot, more so Eren and Zeke. This is probably due to the hiatus though. That is partly due to its great art, and yes you are right it is still a highly rated series no way I was denying that, but I can tell you that statistically speaking that majority of manga readers don't think the current arc in berserk is close in quality to the older arcs and that is also a fact as well. But as you say, "opinions" puneetsingh said: What do you think that which manga you read has the best artstyle? Choose only one if you can but if you think that there are multiple manga with awesome artstyle that you can't decide which one has the edge over the other then you can name multiple. I think Berserk is the best in terms of art style, Vagabond, One punch man, Claymore, Gantz and a few others come close as well. |
puneetsinghAug 25, 2019 4:50 AM
| Should I troll in the troll bait threads? It is kinda idiotic to be logical in the troll bait threads. Well, it will depend on my mood. |
| @puneetsingh They are of different art style so it could come down to taste, but Vagabond artstyle look a bit too rough, while Berserk look like the final product, keep in mind I only had read 10 chapters, just like most manga the art could have improve in later chapters. |
keragamming said: I see and I also observe that your speed of watching anime/reading manga has gotten almost stopped/pretty slow.@puneetsingh They are of different art style so it could come down to taste, but Vagabond artstyle look a bit too rough, while Berserk look like the final product, keep in mind I only had read 10 chapters, just like most manga the art could have improve in later chapters. |
| Should I troll in the troll bait threads? It is kinda idiotic to be logical in the troll bait threads. Well, it will depend on my mood. |
puneetsingh said: keragamming said: I see and I also observe that your speed of watching anime/reading manga has gotten almost stopped/pretty slow.@puneetsingh They are of different art style so it could come down to taste, but Vagabond artstyle look a bit too rough, while Berserk look like the final product, keep in mind I only had read 10 chapters, just like most manga the art could have improve in later chapters. Yep, that is what happen to you when you have College and work on your hand, plus I admit I have lost a bit of interest in this medium, I spend more time on these forums than actually watching anime, the only series I sill follow religiously is snk. |
keragamming said: I am also not watching anime now. My last fully watched season anime is SNKS3P2. After that I have only watched Katsudou Shashin and read 10 chapters of BAMBi (and her pink gun).puneetsingh said: I see and I also observe that your speed of watching anime/reading manga has gotten almost stopped/pretty slow. Yep, that is what happen to you when you have College and work on your hand, plus I admit I have lost a bit of interest in this medium, I spend more time on these forums than actually watching anime, the only series I sill follow religiously is snk. |
| Should I troll in the troll bait threads? It is kinda idiotic to be logical in the troll bait threads. Well, it will depend on my mood. |
removed-user said: this didn't age wellcrescensXG said: It's pretty much the opposite of a masterpiece and nowhere near a conclusion. I also doubt that Miuara has any motivation for his baby besides keeping it somehow alive to generate money. I have never read Berserk, nor do I plan to in the future, but I can already see this to be the case. It is just ridiculous that Bersek has been publishing for so long and as you have mentioned I doubt the creators really have a passion for this series anymore. It would be hilarious if they just left it incomplete and left a message saying "Fuck You" in Japanese. And by incomplete I don't mean releasing a final chapter and then never touching the series again, I mean releasing a half-done chapter that finishes on a page where Griffith is about to reveal a secret but there is no next page. |
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